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YAMAHA 600 SX---Adjusting Oil Consumption--HELP

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Riley14

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Feb 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/10/97
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My Yami is using two quarts of oil for a tank of gas. I need help in
adjusting the oil pump. Please let me know if you can.


Thanks

Doug
97" Vmax 600SX


K Wirth

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Feb 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/10/97
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What is the top speed on this diesel? Does it sound dull & flat at high
speed and take forever to get anywhere above 80mph.? kw


Tony Kasten

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Feb 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/11/97
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On my 1996 600 there is an adjustment in the cable that controls the
oil pump. Making the cable longer leans the oil out. Dont do it all
at once try a couple of turns at a time, it may take you a few trips,
but it is fairly easy and cheap. Mark a line on your oil tank and
keep track of how much gas and oil you use to lean it out to your
desired ratio.

Tony Kasten
1996 Vmax 600 MM


Chad Donahue

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Feb 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/11/97
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Riley14 wrote:
>
> My Yami is using two quarts of oil for a tank of gas. I need help in
> adjusting the oil pump. Please let me know if you can.
>
> Thanks
>
> Doug
> 97" Vmax 600SX
Yes you can if there's any room in the cable, my 97" mnt. max was doing
the same thing. There's an adjustment on the cable in about the area of
the airbox. Look at your oil pump as you squeeze the throttle and note
the notches on the pump vavle as a guage for adjustment.

gen...@ibm.net

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Feb 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/11/97
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K Wirth wrote:

>
> ril...@aol.com (Riley14) wrote:
> >
> > My Yami is using two quarts of oil for a tank of gas. I need help
> in
> >adjusting the oil pump. Please let me know if you can.
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Doug
> >97" Vmax 600SX
>
> What is the top speed on this diesel? Does it sound dull & flat at high
> speed and take forever to get anywhere above 80mph.? kw

Greedy little pig isnt it.my vmax will go at least three tanks on two
litres,you had best make sure it isnt stuck,then hold throttle wide open
check alignment marks and loosen cable lock nut adjust so the marks
line up back away from the line by 3/16 of on inch ,tighten lock nut.
If this cures it suggest switching to synthetic oil.
LEN

K Wirth

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Feb 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/12/97
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The 97 600's have the oil cable adjustment bottomed out. The only
possible adjustment is to bend the arm where the cable mounts to the oil
pump and that is how the dealers are doing it. kw


DEEPSNOW 5

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Feb 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/13/97
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Check with your dealer theres some bad pump on the 97 600.There should be
a recall from mikuni and yamaha.Are dealer replace four of them all ready.

JAY
97 MT.MAX 600 1200ml. oilfix 1qt 15gal gas and running strong.

Chad Donahue

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Feb 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/13/97
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Took your advice on this, works great, I must caution though you only
need to move the notch on the pump about 1/32 to 1/16 of an inch, so
start slow and keep an eye on the plug's. Should get about 70 miles to a
quart of oil.
Thanx again for the advice.

Jeff Barton

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Feb 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/14/97
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Sheeesh, are you sure ??? 70 miles for a quart of oil here for us flat landers
is a *LOT*. Assuming 10 mpg that would be about 25 to 1....pretty rich. If you
getting better than 10 mpg it would be richer.

As a comparison I would think you should be closer to 100 to 120 miles per
quart of oil which is a bout 50-1 for a sled getting 10 or 11 mpg.

Of course if your getting 7 mpg your figure would be right on. Oil usage is
more a factor of gas used than miles traveled. I would think most sleds want
around 50-1, someone will correct me if I am wrong.

jeff b.

Ben

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Feb 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/15/97
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Riley14 wrote:
>
> My Yami is using two quarts of oil for a tank of gas. I need help in
> adjusting the oil pump. Please let me know if you can.
>
> Thanks
>
> Doug
> 97" Vmax 600SX
Back off the oil pump two millimeters and see what it does!! Good luck!

Chad Donahue

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Feb 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/15/97
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Just going by what the head mechanic at the dealer told me, he said I
should be at about 70 miles to the quart of oil, I'm gonna have to take
it back in though cause 7 miles to the gal. is not acceptable mileage.
Of course though dealers are so afraid of a burn down they want
everything overly rich.

gen...@ibm.net

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Feb 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/15/97
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Jeff Barton wrote:
>
> In article <3303E6...@rrnet.com>, Chad Donahue <cdon...@rrnet.com> writes:
> > K Wirth wrote:
> >>
> >> The 97 600's have the oil cable adjustment bottomed out. The only
> >> possible adjustment is to bend the arm where the cable mounts to the oil
> >> pump and that is how the dealers are doing it. kw
> >
> > Took your advice on this, works great, I must caution though you only
> > need to move the notch on the pump about 1/32 to 1/16 of an inch, so
> > start slow and keep an eye on the plug's. Should get about 70 miles to a
> > quart of oil.
> > Thanx again for the advice.
>
> Sheeesh, are you sure ??? 70 miles for a quart of oil here for us flat landers
> is a *LOT*. Assuming 10 mpg that would be about 25 to 1....pretty rich. If you
> getting better than 10 mpg it would be richer.
>
> As a comparison I would think you should be closer to 100 to 120 miles per
> quart of oil which is a bout 50-1 for a sled getting 10 or 11 mpg.
>
> Of course if your getting 7 mpg your figure would be right on. Oil usage is
> more a factor of gas used than miles traveled. I would think most sleds want
> around 50-1, someone will correct me if I am wrong.
>
> jeff b.
I agree with Jeff, you should get 120 miles to a tank or better though
Len

Tom Skwarek

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Feb 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/16/97
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Now tell that to Yamaha as they seem to believe that 70 miles / quart is
reasonable. The 600SX has used twice as much oil as I have with a 600XC
over the same amount of miles. I've used say one gallon and the Yammie
has used AT LEAST two gallons.

Tom Skwarek

gen...@ibm.net

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Feb 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/17/97
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Yamaha doesnt care about our problems at least not in Canada.
The guy you talk to in Canada is Scott Harrison ,believe me my 13 year
old son Knows more.
Len

gen...@ibm.net

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Feb 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/18/97
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PLEASE HELP ME I cannot seem to post a notice to the board under my own
heading or subject I know this IBM computer is giving me a migrain but I
dont think that is the problem.Could someone please post the
instructions
as my email doesnt work that good.
I am trying post answers to some of the email received.
THANKS very much.
Len

K Wirth

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Feb 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/24/97
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Everything I said about oil pump adjustment was incorrect. Having
adjusted the pump cable on my 600XTC, I can tell you it still uses 1
quart per 50 miles. That makes it a diesel and I suspect that's why it
runs like one. I believe the only solution is to have Bender put a 32:1
cam in the oil pump or something like that. Perhaps this might be
recalled.......... but not likely before I sell the sled. kw


MDMead

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Feb 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/25/97
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>My oil pump adjustment made no difference. I won't be buying any Thunder

>Cats- btw.
>I can't decide twixt a 700SX with Ohlins, electric, reverse or one of
>those cute lil blue sleds with a 700. kw

KW,

I'm wondering why you would buy another Yamaha when the company flawed so
badly on your current one. Most people would move on to another brand.
Oh wait, I know, you used to be an Arctic Cat owner. AC owners are so
loyal that they always keep coming back to be miserable.

Just a joke everyone.........leave the mouse on the table where I can see
it......that's it, ease away from the keyboard..........

Matt
Doo owner

gen...@ibm.net

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Feb 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/26/97
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K Wirth wrote:
>
> Everything I said about oil pump adjustment was incorrect. Having
> adjusted the pump cable on my 600XTC, I can tell you it still uses 1
> quart per 50 miles. That makes it a diesel and I suspect that's why it
> runs like one. I believe the only solution is to have Bender put a 32:1
> cam in the oil pump or something like that. Perhaps this might be
> recalled.......... but not likely before I sell the sled. kw

And after all this you want to buy another yamaha,the last srx I bought
was pig iron.

DEEPSNOW 5

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Feb 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/26/97
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Have your dealer install a 500 pump as a warranty replacment it works. I
got 700 miles on my new pump no proplems run 1qt. to 12 gal gas. lot
better than 1.5 qt. to 6gal gas.With old pump.Run the new pump at factory
adjustment spec.


JAY
97MT. MAX600 1500ml. true wet weight 570 lb.

K Wirth

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Feb 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/26/97
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I'm wondering why you would buy another Yamaha when the company flawed
so
>badly on your current one. Most people would move on to another brand.


I need something reliable and don't like bananna doos. Who would buy a
cat and polardas doesn't have a motor. kw>


Chet Cognigni

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Feb 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/26/97
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IF you need reliability try a ROTAX......proven over & over

wey...@nbnet.nb.ca

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Feb 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/27/97
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K Wirth wrote:
>
> I'm wondering why you would buy another Yamaha when the company flawed
> so
> >badly on your current one. Most people would move on to another brand.
>
> I need something reliable and don't like bananna doos. Who would buy a
> cat and polardas doesn't have a motor. kw>

You should broaden your horizons.
Believe it or not there are Some great Doo's that are not yellow.
Word has it the Polaris 700 twin is a MUTHA of a motor and my Ultra
is a great trail sled .[wont run stock @ a 670 Doo though]
My son owns a Cat but what does he know ? He is only 15.
Was considering a Yammie until I joined this Newsgroup. Maybe next year?

;^ )))

Dave

--
MZ

Steve Wiedenfeld

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Feb 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/27/97
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Chet Cognigni wrote:
>
> K Wirth wrote:
> >
> > I'm wondering why you would buy another Yamaha when the company flawed
> > so
> > >badly on your current one. Most people would move on to another brand.
> >
> > I need something reliable and don't like bananna doos. Who would buy a
> > cat and polardas doesn't have a motor. kw>
>
> IF you need reliability try a ROTAX......proven over & over

Chet's right kw, you can look at your ROTAX to see if you have enough
time to make it to Hoppy's before closing. Something to consider ;)

DEEPSNOW 5

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Feb 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/27/97
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Hay KW that oil pump is the same oil pump on the other brands just Yamaha
had bad luck getting some bad pumps. So it could happen to the best.There
having a warranty recall this spring for the guys having proplems. So calm
down.

K Wirth

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Feb 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/27/97
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Gheeeeesh, why would you think I need to calm down. I'm not excited over
any of this.

kw


dua...@minn.net

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Feb 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/28/97
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My 1997 Yamaha Venture 600 is using 1 guart per 50 gallons also.
Yamaha is going to replace the oil pump when parts come in. The best
I ever got was 80 miles to a quart. Yamaha say it will not get worst
then 50. It's a minor inconvenience. The sled is great!

K Wirth

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Feb 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/28/97
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Yes, it is just a minor inconvenience. I'll add it to the list. Really,
I wouldn't expect it to get any worse either. kw


BDela10533

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Mar 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/2/97
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My dealer told me that yamaha will be recalling the oil pump.

K Wirth

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Mar 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/4/97
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>
>Chet's right kw, you can look at your ROTAX to see if you have enough
>time to make it to Hoppy's before closing. Something to consider ;)

Making it to Hoppy's bar in Kenton isn't usually the problem. Getting
out of Hoppy's is tough though. kw


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