Artic Cat ZL or ZR 700
ray628
700's. I have a line on one of each. They are both 2000 and the ZL
might be $500 cheaper. I like the ZR looks better and it is a service
managers sled that was just went through and is jetted, clutched,
picked, carbides and is immaculate. The ZL is picked and has
carbides.
What are the plus's and minus's of these sleds?
ZRJoe
ZR is sprung and valved stiffer. But if I were you I'd get a 600 instead
or a newer 800. They have stopped with the 700's
I own a 99 ZR700 with Monoblock head, clutched, SLP can. Powerbreather. And
It can JUST run with a good 600 EFI.
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fourboys
rebuildable ACT (Fox) shocks and the ZL came with Ryde FX non-rebuildable
shocks. I have a ZR 600 EFI, 2000 and I just love it. Was going to buy a
new sled this year, but added clicker shocks and adjustable front skid shock
to the ZR and am going to keep her at least another year.
The other post ir right though, I'd look for either a 600 or an 800,
preferably an EFI sled. Can't say enough good things about the EFI!!
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ray628
so bad about it. A friend of mine is a race mechanic and the service
manager at his shop has this ZR700. It is a 2000, 168 studs,
carbides, jetted and clutched. They both say it is a very clean and
solid sled. I usually don't question my mechanic too much but asked
him about the 700. He said it isn't the fastest 700 out there but it
is a solid motor and the little work they did to it made a nice
improvement.
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Team Arctic
standards. Cat re-launched the 700 because of the popularity of that segment
(Polaris was kickin butt). Cat obviously had the new 800 twin and the F7
engine on the drawing boards at the time and as a result they put the older
style piston port reed motor in the ZR as a stop gap. Out of the box it
needed carb tuning and clutch work to compete. I would say your mechanic is
giving you straight talk. Not the best production 700 out of the box, but
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ZRJoe
to Rejet immediately. It runs fine and is a fun sled. It really needs twin
pipes though to get up to the Horsepower of other 700's. The case reed
assembly is also a pain. If you want to improve your reeds You have to
disassembly the top end completely!
Studding it helps a TON too! You'll love the wheelies! Make sure you have a
good carbide on the front! It eats a lot of gas too! The new head on mine
helped that a lot as well! They like power Breathers as well. I notice about
200 rpm more on mine. If you get a deal.. go for it! Usually the 600's of
the same year run as much used.. if not more.
Anyways that's My 25 cents
ZRJoe
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ray628
Thank you for the straight talk. You really will not hurt my feelings
if you say it is a POS but I just want to know where the problems are.
If it needed carb and clutch work to compete and this one has it,
then would it be a good sled?
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The 700 has no inherent flaws. If a good mechanic has tuned the clutching
and carbs, I think it would be a fine sled (ZR or ZL). If they haven't added
an AC coupler kit to the skid frame, I would recommend adding one. The kit
includes heavy duty idler arm and rear arm, adjustable coupling blocks and
all mounting hardware (I think) and goes for about $130 (I think). Greatly
improves ski lift and high speed handling. Good luck! Marc
ray628
and he said the exact same thing as you guys said. It was too rich
and not clutched right. He said it was about 4 sizes too rich. He
said the Polaris 700's are supposed to be the fastest and he rides
with a guy with a 2001 and a 2002 Polaris 700 and this ZR 700 beats
them. Not big mods done to it either. Just thought I would tell you.
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Kurt
jetted rite they are still not fuel frendily.
Karl Lutz
in it's class in speed , gas mileage and when you get ready to sell it , you
may have trouble getting rid of it. My 6oo efi would outperform my
son-in-laws 700 no matter what he did to his. At about 900 miles his 700
caught on fire and burnt to the ground. Lucky for him , so he got a new AC
800 and runs all over me.
If you just want a AC that you plan on keeping for a long time(resale?)
and be the slow one in your group of 600s,700s.or 800s, you may be satisfied
Karl
600 Mountain Cat
F7
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Jeff B
jetted rite they are still not fuel frendily.
YES this is ONE thing at the tops on my list...... this is one reason to
possibly look into a "god used" 2001 ZR 800 instead..... VERY quick...
super top end and very good fuel mileage.... the best of all worlds
really.
BUT, it looks as though your hearts set on the 700.... if it were me I`d
try to dig a bit deeper and get a Cat 800 twin.....
Good luck and enjoy.
Jeff B In Maine
Mike Frisch
> The only thing that would bother me is the poor gas milage....even when
> jetted rite they are still not fuel frendily.
I am pretty sure I got my 2000 ZR700 figured out last year. Between
cluthing, jetting (310 mains), and dropping the needle one notch, I was
able to get consistent 10 mpg out of it. I don't know what a typical
number is for a 700, but this seemed to be inline with the people I rode
with.
Mike.
rob_lyons
>YES this is ONE thing at the tops on my list...... this is one reason to
>possibly look into a "god used" 2001 ZR 800 instead..... VERY quick...
>super top end and very good fuel mileage.... the best of all worlds
>really.
>BUT, it looks as though your hearts set on the 700.... if it were me I`d
>try to dig a bit deeper and get a Cat 800 twin.....
>Good luck and enjoy.
>
>Jeff B In Maine
"god used" ZR800, eh?
I guess that would be a HOLY CAT 8-]
Rob in Vermont
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ZRJoe
Are you running any mods on your 700? What altitude and temps do you
normally ride at?
My sled is on the middle notch for the needle and 340 mains. But I have
a power breather, Black Magic head, And a SLP can installed.
The piston wash looks very good. I really do not like plug color checks
myself.
Did you use a clutch kit or just mod with cat parts?
Is yours studded?
ZRJoe
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Jeff B
"god used" ZR800, eh?
I guess that would be a HOLY CAT 8-]
Rob in Vermont
Ooops, Damn WebTV wireless keyboard unit...... Where the HELL is my
DELL...... actually we got it yesterday and should have it online come
Monday or Tuesday of next week....
I`ll try harder to keep things in check. =-Þ
Jeff B In Maine
Evel
I thought besides the less than average fuel economy that the 700 twin Cat
was a vibrating beast??
Evel
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Mike Frisch
> Are you running any mods on your 700? What altitude and temps do
> you normally ride at?
I just did those mods that I mentioned in my posting (jetting, drop the
needles/clips, and clutching) and nothing else.
I have heard that getting the head shaved was also an effective mod for
the 700, but your aftermarket head would probably achieve much of the
same result.
I am in Southern/Central Ontario and rode last year in Sudbury, Parry
Sound, Muskoka, etc.
> My sled is on the middle notch for the needle and 340 mains. But I have
> a power breather, Black Magic head, And a SLP can installed.
I do not know exactly the position, but the needles were dropped (or was
it raised? Whatever made it leaner) one notch from the factory setting.
> The piston wash looks very good. I really do not like plug color checks
> myself.
My quick, informal check of piston wash was good. The plugs were light
brown like I learned was optimal.
> Did you use a clutch kit or just mod with cat parts?
I used Polaris 58g weights, a primary spring from HPE (don't have the
exact colours handy), and some low friction rollers in the secondary.
The rollers were supposed to improve backshifting and I believe they
did.
> Is yours studded?
I bought 120 studs for it, but never got around to installing them last
winter. After doing the clutch work, I was _amazed_ how quickly this
thing takes off from a dead stop. With it studded, I imagine it'd be
that much better!
As a stock machine, it truly was a dog, but after these mods, everything
seemed to fall into place. I really had no complaints.
Mike.
Mike Frisch
> How bad is the gas milage? Well compared to other sleds out there.
FWIW, I was consistently getting 10mpg on long hauls with my 2000 ZR700
at the end of last winter.
Jeff B
Evel wrote;
Jeff,
I thought besides the less than average fuel economy that
the 700 twin Cat was a vibrating beast??
Evel
It is... but then again.... that`s the part. 8-)
Jeff B In Maine
Evel
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Evel
tonight.. Anyone on here riding yet??
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