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Andrew

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May 13, 2004, 11:55:34 PM5/13/04
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I noticed that with every other skate that i worn my ankles would always
pronate. Do any ofyou guys know of the "correct" method to adjust my
skates so my ankles won't be so pronated? Currently i have a pair of mod
8.5's, thx for any help you can give.

Franklin's SpamTrap

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May 14, 2004, 3:17:13 AM5/14/04
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Hi Andrew,

Mmm, let's see if I remember everything from the Breakawayskate workshop
with Barry Publow and Aaron Arndt....

Frame placement varies from person to person, and from foot to foot.
Ideally you should just about supinate, ankle tip a little to the
outside, when standing on your skates shoulder width apart, feet
pointing straight ahead. If you supinate too much your outside calf
muscle will complain because it's working to straighten your ankle full
time. Pronating hurts after a while too and looses power in your push.

To find the longitudinal frame placement draw the outline of your bare
foot standing on a piece of paper. Mark between your big toe and the
next toe and mark a hair to the inside of your achilles sinew. Draw a
line inbetween, this is supposed to be the axis you balance on. This is
also the basic frame position. Now if your toes are skewed to the inside
from wearing pointy shoes or having bunions near the big toe then this
messes up the first marking, but you can still find it between the bones
at the root of your toes or the muscle pad underneath.

Mark the frame position on the boot. I just run a ball point pen down
each side (my way). Unscrew the screws under the ball of the foot and
the heel and move the frame: inwards if you pronate, outwards if you
supinate.

Try your skates on and relax to see what falls which way.. On my 5 wheel
skates I can leave out the second and fourth wheel to access the screws
more easily. You should just about supinate. I think this is to help
skating the set down and glide, because during the fall one will roll
over from outside edge to top to inside edge of the wheels. If this is
greek then take a speed skating workshop. :-) If this
just-suppinate-stuff is difficult then just try to get on top of your
skates, getting a neutral stance.

When you get standing right then it's time to glide. Skate so you have a
little speed and glide along on one skate. Skating along a line in the
road, pavement or floor will help. If you turn to one side then adjust
your frame accordingly to cancel out the turn.

Go back to the beginning.

Do the other skate.

This is basically the iteration required. At the workshop Barry Publow
said he usually gets things ok after 2-3 adjustments with new boots and
after 3-4 adjusments more while skating. He had been wearing new boots
for about one week and still felt he had an adjustment or two to make.
Plan on two-three times longer... :-)

Some other tips:

When finished mark the ideal position in case a screw ever works loose
or you want to change frames.

If an indoor skater then one adjusts more radically because of the left
turns. Then one wants a left turn when gliding on the left skate,
equaling the track turn radius.

There are no marks, stitches, folds or edges on the boot marking the
center line.

One can hold up the boot between one's flat hands, holding the sides of
the boot, heel to the ground, toe to the sky, frame outwards. It's
supposed to be easier to see if the frame is mounted toe-in or toe-out
that way.

The frame should be placed midway on the boot, as much wheel sticking
out in front as sticking out behind.

Your balance should be just forward of the ankle, about between wheel #3
and #4, #5 being the rear wheel. Rearwards is better.

Some ideas:

Would a runner's shop glass plate and computer scan give a better
longitudinal placement for difficult feet? I have seen some graphics
with the longitudinal balance line superimposed on a pic of a foot on a
glass plate.

---

This isn't part of the skate faq at skatefaq.com, maybe we could beat
the subject to death here and update the faq?

YMMV.

br Franklin

XSFred

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May 14, 2004, 5:36:38 PM5/14/04
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"Andrew" <sp...@spamnet.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:Xns94E8F3682EC7...@66.185.95.104...

You should fin what you need here :
http://xsfred1.free.fr/roller/mogemas/customize.htm

XSFred


XSFred

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May 14, 2004, 5:40:38 PM5/14/04
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"Franklin's SpamTrap" <usenets...@hotpop.com> a écrit dans le message de
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> Hi Andrew,
>

> Would a runner's shop glass plate and computer scan give a better
> longitudinal placement for difficult feet? I have seen some graphics
> with the longitudinal balance line superimposed on a pic of a foot on a
> glass plate.
>

To my knowledge, the Saab-Salomon team frames are adjusted exactly this way.
Only it is not a computer scan (a bit Sci-fi are we, eh :)), but more
quietly stress gauges.

XSFred


Franklin's SpamTrap

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May 14, 2004, 6:11:34 PM5/14/04
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XSFred wrote:

> You should fin what you need here :
> http://xsfred1.free.fr/roller/mogemas/customize.htm

Nice page XSFred, into the bookmark heap with it! One link to a pic is
strange though, comes up as
http://xsfred1.free.fr/roller/mogemas/.\rubbertongue.jpg, please check
your html.

br Franklin

John Doe

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May 14, 2004, 9:42:50 PM5/14/04
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"XSFred" <xsf...@wanadouille.fr> wrote

> "Andrew" <sp...@spamnet.com> a écrit dans le message de

>> I noticed that with every other skate that i worn my ankles would
>> always pronate. Do any of you guys know of the "correct" method to


>> adjust my skates so my ankles won't be so pronated? Currently i have
>> a pair of mod 8.5's, thx for any help you can give.
>
> You should fin what you need here :
> http://xsfred1.free.fr/roller/mogemas/customize.htm

Thanks for the link. Very cool when I can click on a small picture and get
a high resolution big picture.

You wrote:
Heel Blisters
If you believe you can escape this subject, think twice.

I guess you are talking about speed skates with low cut boots, but maybe
not if you were some good Rollerblades. Mine are very comfortable.

Phil Lenihan

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May 17, 2004, 3:43:12 PM5/17/04
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Something that helpd me were 5 Degree Wedgies form Xenan in Denver. These
are little wedges that go between you boot and your frame to compensage for
pronation.

Cheers! PHIL

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Jack

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May 17, 2004, 10:53:24 PM5/17/04
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Thanks a lot everyone your responses were really useful. Franklin that was
some great advice you gave very concise and informative thanks a lot. I
have been able to fix my skates so your responses are greatly appreciated
thanks!
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