Why Do Skateboarders Hate Us?
Nicholas Chernikovich
I think it's because were taking all of there Tv apperences away.....and
there afraid that are sport will overcome theres and no body will want
to skateboard any more(not any body wants to know)
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Nicholas Chernikovich wrote:
>
> I think it's because were taking all of there Tv apperences away.....and
> there afraid that are sport will overcome theres and no body will want
> to skateboard any more(not any body wants to know)
Why would the skateboarders give a shit? I rode a skateboard years ago
and very few rollerskaters were around back then, so I don't know how we
would've felt.
Anyways, I've gotten badmouthed only once while skating, and that was a
kid that was like 10 years old (It was something like "You're stupid
riding those things"). I'm 6'4", 210lbs, so that kinda made me laugh
more than anything.
Dave
>Anyways, I've gotten badmouthed only once while skating, and that was a
>kid that was like 10 years old (It was something like "You're stupid
>riding those things"). I'm 6'4", 210lbs, so that kinda made me laugh
>more than anything.
Just the other day some asshole on a skateboard almost ran me off the path that
I was on. They were skating two of them side by side and the kid just didn't
even try to move.
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Dave (dco2393@fight_spam_rit.edu) wrote:
: Just the other day some asshole on a skateboard almost ran me off the path that
: I was on. They were skating two of them side by side and the kid just didn't
: even try to move.
See, you're nice and considerate. Usually I am too. But punks like that
tend to annoy me. A good clothesline with a hockey stick or faking you
can't skate by swing your arms out usually teaches them a good lesson.
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Lapu Lapu
: Nicholas Chernikovich wrote:
: >
: > I think it's because were taking all of there Tv apperences away.....and
: > there afraid that are sport will overcome theres and no body will want
: > to skateboard any more(not any body wants to know)
Skateboarders nor should rollerbladers give a shit about tv
appearances. And rollerblading will not take over skateboarding either.
George Kirschbaum
There is only one reason that skateboarders hate inliners, who
hate aggressive inliners, who hate 5-wheelers---> inline hockey
players---> spandex wearing inliners---> kids---> middle age fitness
skaters---> elite speed skaters---> ETC:
ignorance
respect other people's interests and understand that most things
are harder than they look and cooler to the people that do them. Shut-up
and have fun.
George
Aaron Newton
Theodore G. Sawyer (lit...@mindspring.com) wrote:
>
> Even though I am a fan of both sports, I firmly believe that
> inline-skating has already taken over skateboarding. I cannot help but
> feel nostalgic. I grew up on a skateboard...
>
No, I really feel what has happened to rollerblading is what happened in the
80s with skateboarding. It's a huge fad rightnow, and everyone is doing it.
Eventually the fad will die down. The purists will remain with it, just
like the skateboarders did.
-Aaron
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Dave
> respect other people's interests and understand that most things
>are harder than they look and cooler to the people that do them. Shut-up
>and have fun.
I agree with you. I have no problem with everyone from skateboarders, to hockey
players to spandex wearers. In fact I used to skateboard myself. I am not a
good enough skater to have any kind of ego about what I do, and even if I was a
great skater I have no right to put anyone else down. However, what I DO have a
problem with is people who have no respect for the sport I do, or the version of
the sport that I do. I have a problem with skateboarders who try to run me off
the path because I inline...I have a problem with runners and walkers who have
no respect for what I'm doing and get in my way either on purpose or because
they just don't give a shit that I'm there, I have a problem with inliners who
have no concept of their own ability and end up causing harm to themselves or to
me because of their stupidity.
CurtAdams
Theodore G. Sawyer (lit...@mindspring.com) wrote:
>
> Even though I am a fan of both sports, I firmly believe that
> inline-skating has already taken over skateboarding. I cannot help but
> feel nostalgic. I grew up on a skateboard...
Well, there's lots of kids getting around on skateboards still. If you
want to go places and do things, skateboards are pretty handy. Lots of
people still grow up on skateboards.
For recreation, inlines are doing better because at the same level of
skill, an inliner can go faster, jump higher, and control turns better.
It looks more impressive, and looks are very important to a lot of people.
amne...@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Aaron Newton) writes:
>No, I really feel what has happened to rollerblading is what happened in
the
>80s with skateboarding. It's a huge fad rightnow, and everyone is doing
it.
>Eventually the fad will die down.
Fad, yes, but more like rollerskating in the 70's than skateboarding.
Skateboarding was pretty much limited to school-age males even at the
peak. Go to the park today and everybody's inlining - 6 to 60, and both
sexes.
Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com)
Tim Renner
> For recreation, inlines are doing better because at the same level of
> skill, an inliner can go faster, jump higher, and control turns better.
> It looks more impressive, and looks are very important to a lot of people.
Skateboards have one GREAT advantage over inlines though... when you
screw up... you can simply jump off... I'd kill to have that in
inlines... I've takes some good falls trying out new tricks...
*wave*
-Tim
Lapu Lapu
Aaron Newton (amne...@starbase.spd.louisville.edu) wrote:
: No, I really feel what has happened to rollerblading is what happened in the
: 80s with skateboarding. It's a huge fad rightnow, and everyone is doing it.
: Eventually the fad will die down. The purists will remain with it, just
: like the skateboarders did.
I truly believe that this will happen as well...
Lapu Lapu
Tim Renner (l...@holly.colostate.edu) wrote:
: Skateboards have one GREAT advantage over inlines though... when you
: screw up... you can simply jump off... I'd kill to have that in
: inlines... I've takes some good falls trying out new tricks...
This is one of those myths that people generalize about skateboarding.
Yeah...you can jump off, but you can still get hurt. The ankles are
especially more vulnerable on skateboarding. "Simply jumping off" is not
always the case.
Kevin C Welch
Aaron Newton (amne...@starbase.spd.louisville.edu) wrote:
: No, I really feel what has happened to rollerblading is what happened in the
: 80s with skateboarding. It's a huge fad rightnow, and everyone is doing it.
: Eventually the fad will die down. The purists will remain with it, just
: like the skateboarders did.
I disagree. In-lining is not much of a stretch from roller skating, and
tons of people did that and still do. Skateboarding never had the
respect that rollerskaters and in-liners do. Many more classes and ages
of people in-line skate than skateboard.
Skateboarding has always been viewed as restricted to those teeniboppers
who were somewhat delinquent. In-lining appeals to a much broader base
of individuals.
George Kirschbaum
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Dave wrote:
> the sport that I do. I have a problem with skateboarders who try to run me off
> the path because I inline...I have a problem with runners and walkers who have
> no respect for what I'm doing and get in my way either on purpose or because
> they just don't give a shit that I'm there, I have a problem with inliners who
> have no concept of their own ability and end up causing harm to themselves or to
> me because of their stupidity.
I hole hardily agree with your feelings. I guess I was trying to
say "respect other people" and maybe that kinda got lost at the end. I
should have left out the "shut up and have fun" part which was meant to
say "knock of all the bickering, people." I did not intend my post to be
directed at you but at the net in general.
I'm currently typing one handed due to an injury. . . in X number
of words or less becomes very true! ;-)
Enjoy your sport, respect others, peace!
George
Dave
=] Cool.
> I hole hardily agree with your feelings. I guess I was trying to
>say "respect other people" and maybe that kinda got lost at the end. I
>should have left out the "shut up and have fun" part which was meant to
>say "knock of all the bickering, people." I did not intend my post to be
>directed at you but at the net in general.
> I'm currently typing one handed due to an injury. . . in X number
>of words or less becomes very true! ;-)
>
> Enjoy your sport, respect others, peace!
>
>
> George
Joan Tine
Skateboarders hate us because we can be stealthy and they can't.
I MEAN: imagine the difficulty in creeping up behind a bike rider and
sticking a Gerber Mark 1 into his left kidney on a SKATEBOARD, for
pity sake(!) The thing is one big sounding board, a veritable
accoustical engine, an Infernal Machine at 0300, whereas we can slip
through a neighborhood undetected, and the only sound to break the
pristine, dewey silence is our staccato cursing as Marmaduke nips
cutlets right through our culottes. (Dogs hear high frequencies from
the bearing races, yes, it's true. They keep it all hid.)
Also, in the movie "Hackers", the heavy was a boarder, all the hacker
kids had boots.
On the other hand, when pursued by zombies, a skateboard can be used
for bashing in skulls, and there are lots of tricks non-skateboarders
can still do with the board, involving getting off, stomping the board
so it flips into their armpits with a flourish, etc. Putting on or
taking off skates isn't nearly as flashy....
Hard choice.
J.
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Phynix
Well, there is truth to that myth..some anyways. It just isn't as
'safe' a method for avoiding falls as people assume it is. Sure..you
can just jump off. What this really does is take the major unsafe part
of the fall away...and that's panic, and uncontrolability. Since you
jumped off the skateboard, you now have control of what you are going to
do, and you know what you are going to do, land hard. Chances are, you
know how you are going to land since you made the jump, and you can jump
so it minimizes the damage on you. Also, since you made a concious
decision to jump, the panic factor is no longer there. We panic in
situations that we can't control, since you made a decision to jump, and
you are now in control, there is no reason to panic.
While this doesn't always work, it's alot better of a solution then
inline skating has. Not like we can just jump out of our boots when we
see trouble ahead. For us, we have to learn to live with the
uncontrolabilty, and forget the panic. In alot of situations something
can be done to minimize the fall, but alot of times the panic gets to us
and we don't do anything.
I think the best advantage that skateboarding has is that you can just
pick up your board, and walk into a store. It's not attached to you in
any way. If I wanted to go into a store, I would have to sit down, take
my skates off, put my shoes on, and then walk in. And after I got back
out, I would have to sit down, take my shoes off, and put my skates back
on. If I had laces, that could be a 2-4 minute proccess on each end. A
big pain.
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Aaron Newton
Kevin C Welch (kwe...@mail1.sas.upenn.edu) wrote:
>
> I disagree. In-lining is not much of a stretch from roller skating, and
> tons of people did that and still do. Skateboarding never had the
Has roller skating *really* been all that popular? Tell me, how many people
have you seen rolling down the street in quads over the past 10 years? Of
course people still do it, but it hasn't been a "popular" thing in a LONG
time (at least around the USA). Right now, everyone and their grand mother
rollerblades... be it big stunts, hockey, racing, or just a skate in the
park, every third person you meet in-lines.
More people are in-lining right now than playing any of the 'big-name'
sports. Will this continue? No. Of course not. *This* qualifies it as a
fad. I still stand by my statement, that soon the fad will fade, and the
purists will stay with it.
> respect that rollerskaters and in-liners do. Many more classes and ages
> of people in-line skate than skateboard.
... which has nothing to do with the argument at hand. It has nothing to do
with rollerblading being like skateboarding in terms of who is doing it.
It's about the shear number of people blading.
Certainly, while skateboarding didn't cross as many demographic lines as
rollerblading now does, it DID go through a period of over-hyped interest
where every kid on the block had a skateboard. The fad passed, the purists
stayed with it.
The same thing will happen to rollerblading. The "freshness" of it all will
wear off... the purists stay with it... blah blah blah.
Granted, you probably won't see it die down as much as skateboarding did,
simply because there are currently many more uses and specializations on
rollerblades. That, however, is immaterial.
>
> Skateboarding has always been viewed as restricted to those teeniboppers
No it hasn't.
George Kirschbaum
On 17 Jun 1997, Aaron Newton wrote:
> More people are in-lining right now than playing any of the 'big-name'
> sports. Will this continue? No. Of course not. *This* qualifies it as a
> fad. I still stand by my statement, that soon the fad will fade, and the
> purists will stay with it.
The big things about inline sticking around, besides the other
arguments already voiced is that Insk8ing also mimics several other
sports: skiing, and ice skating. Anyone that can do one of those can
Insk8. The motion and feel are similiar, and therefore will hold peoples
interest.
G.
Darren
Here's something to think about.
I do aggressive inline skating and skateboarding, and on occassion I
skateboard with my inline skating friends. Now here's why I get
frustrated when skateboarding with people on inline skates (and this
is probably the reason why skateboarders may hate inline skaters)...
as I'm skating up to a curb/bench/rail, if an inline skater
accidentally gets in the way, its easy for them to veer off in another
direction and stay upright (I do it all the time when inline skating
in busy streets) whereas its harder to change direction by say 90
degrees, stay on the board, and then reaim the board to head back
towards the grind spot if you werent intending to change direction
(with inline skates you can just side step). So I end up stepping off
the board and having to go back to the start point to approach the
grind spot again. Can you see what I mean? I hope so cos I'm not sure
how else to put that!
If I'm right I read one posting comparing inline skating to
skateboarding. I think inline skating (aggressive anyway) is more
popular with kids now because if you skate hard within a year or two
you could become a pro, pulling royales, unities, fishbrains etc in
competitions, whereas with skateboarding you can anticipate taking
maybe 3 or 4 years before you are at a similar level of competence. I
mean to ollie it took me a month or so to get to a stage where i could
ollie moving, whereas to jump over manhole covers on skates it took
maybe a week. I can do about 75% of the grinds on inline skates but on
a skateboard i can do a couple but not very successfully. (Note: I
started skateboarding in Jan 96 and inline and then aggressive inline
in Feb 96.)
Anyway if you enjoy it, do it!
-Darren
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Fred Gardner
Phynix wrote...
> If I wanted to go into a store, I would have to sit down, take
> my skates off, put my shoes on, and then walk in. And after I got back
> out, I would have to sit down, take my shoes off, and put my skates back
> on. If I had laces, that could be a 2-4 minute proccess on each end. A
> big pain.
>
Not to mention the stinky, sweaty, sticky socks!
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Fred Gardner wrote:
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> Phynix wrote...
>
> > If I wanted to go into a store, I would have to sit down, take
> > my skates off, put my shoes on, and then walk in. And after I got back
> > out, I would have to sit down, take my shoes off, and put my skates back
> > on. If I had laces, that could be a 2-4 minute proccess on each end. A
> > big pain.
> >
>
> Not to mention the stinky, sweaty, sticky socks!
>
>
How would it be if you go skating instead of shopping??
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Aaron Newton wrote:
>
> Has roller skating *really* been all that popular? Tell me, how many people
> have you seen rolling down the street in quads over the past 10 years? Of
> course people still do it, but it hasn't been a "popular" thing in a LONG
> time (at least around the USA). Right now, everyone and their grand mother
> rollerblades... <snip>
I still rollerskate, indoor and outdoor. I've got great big Kryptonics
65mm wheels that send small stones shooting out from underneath them
like organic schrapnel, and I can keep up with the best of the average
inliners and over the hill hockey players just fine...
Inline skating will probably be around for a long time, just like
quads... Sure, the great looking yuppie moms won't be wearing too much
spandex when the get older, which is too bad... But I doubt that today's
alternative dressing aggro skaters will be wearing their baggies,
either, and that may not be too bad, at all...
I'm just an old fart who still enjoys skating, that's all.
feel the breeze
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Conan Heiselt
I've been reading this Newsgroup for over a week and this seems to be a
continuing saga that resolves nothing and that often spurs hate.
Why not quit crying, badmouthing, and whatever and just skate. No
matter who you are, someone somewhere will hate you: If you are Black,
some white or Asian will hate you. If you are Asian, some Black or White
will hate you. If you are White, some Asian or Black will hate you. Not
all Whites, Blacks, Asians, etc. hate each other (only a handful do from
my observation), and only a few skateboarders "HATE" inlineskaters. Its
only the ones that make the noise get noticed.
So forget it, keep your dignity, and live.
conan.
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Conan Heiselt (heis...@byu.edu) wrote:
: I've been reading this Newsgroup for over a week and this seems to be a
There is a psychological explanation for that. But I think you don't need it
to understand that people notice very fast that they are stronger in a big
group. So they always search for people who are like they are and try to
build groups (at least most people do that). In fact those people are
cowards, e.g. all racists are cowards.
It is just the same as with emancipation. Women don't just have big
disadvantages nowadays. They just have their advantages and their
disadvantages, both like men have. But they hear about what it was like in
the past and notice that they could use this to get more and more
advantages. They are a very strong group (let's say at least 40% are female)
and that is so bad about it.
Down at skate park I see it all day. If there is a big group of --- whatever
--- inliners or skaters these gyus are very naughty to all the others.
Whenever you see one of this big group alone he won't say a word to you. I
don't ever care about what such people say, e.g. if they call me names. As
long as they don't touch me or block my way...
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