Do you wear a helmet when skating?
Ian
Greetings,
Beautiful day in NYC yesterday, and went blading around town. I am a
beginner and went fully decked out with pads and helmet. In all of the
info that I have been reading about skating, there is always mention of
wearing a helmet and safety. I would say that not one other skater I saw
was wearing a helmet. There were others with no protection at all, and
then others with just wrist guards.
What has been your experience with wearing equipment, and observing others
doing so? Thanks for the input.
Ian
Shawn Powell
Ian wrote:
There was a survey done regarding what you are asking, in Boston. Check it
out at:
http://www.tufts.edu/~josberg/inlibos.htm
If you are trying to decide what you want to wear based on what everybody else
is wearing though, don't. If you are a beginner and are skating around on
streets (especially in NYC), I would wear the whole works: knee, elbow, wrist,
and helmet. Personally, I consider myself a pretty good skater and I usually
wear full gear when skating on streets, and at least wrist guards when I'm on
bike paths. In the indoor rinks I skate in during the winter, it seems that
almost nobody (me included) wears any kind of gear at all other than the
occasional person with a wrist guard. Still, that shouldn't influence you.
Wear the gear and don't worry about how you look.
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Martin Gold
I started recreational inlining 7 years ago. I then moved into inline
speedskating and most recently (2 seasons ago) ice short track
speedskating. Throughout all of this I always wore at least a helmet and
usually wrist protection (except for ice ST, you don't tend to fall forward
onto your wrists). If someone spends even one dollar on protecting their
wrists but does not bother with a helmet they are pretty foolish. A head
injury can be quite debilitating in comparison to a broken wrist or skinned
knee.
Ian <iar...@att.net> wrote in article
<6fojb8$b...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
> Greetings,
>
> Beautiful day in NYC yesterday, and went blading around town. I am a
> beginner and went fully decked out with pads and helmet. In all of the
> info that I have been reading about skating, there is always mention of
> wearing a helmet and safety. I would say that not one other skater I saw
> was wearing a helmet. There were others with no protection at all, and
> then others with just wrist guards.
>
> What has been your experience with wearing equipment, and observing
others
> doing so? Thanks for the input.
>
> Ian
>
Brad Powers
I skate frequently on the Bike Path between Amherst and Northampton,
Massachusetts. In my experience, the vast majority of skaters do not
wear helmets. Probably over 50% do have some type of protection though,
typically wrist guards. I always wear my helmet.
Brad
Dave
Ian wrote:
> Beautiful day in NYC yesterday, and went blading around town. I am a
> beginner and went fully decked out with pads and helmet. In all of the
> info that I have been reading about skating, there is always mention of
> wearing a helmet and safety. I would say that not one other skater I saw
> was wearing a helmet. There were others with no protection at all, and
> then others with just wrist guards.
> What has been your experience with wearing equipment, and observing others
> doing so? Thanks for the input.
I hate wearing a helmet. It makes me sweat. It's not cool. And what's the
point? In years of rec and street skating, I've never fallen on my head.
I'd much rather wear a baseball cap. But I would still NEVER go out without
my helmet, even on a smooth trail. (I met an experienced racer who once had a
bad fall after a pebble got stuck between his wheels on a trail.) Wearing a
helmet may be miserable, but it's still pretty well ahead of brain damage on
the misery scale.
In my experience with US clubs, it appears that the least and most
experienced skaters almost all tend to wear helmets, while usage seems more
mixed amongst the rest of the crowd. In the UK, very few skaters wear
helmets, maybe because 95% of them are kids. Oddly enough, the same parents
who would never let their children ride in a car without seat belts seem
happy to let their kids go out without a helmet.
Besides the helmet, it's only wrist guards for me and most other skaters. Few
rec/street skaters beyond beginners really seem to need or use knee pads. But
consider someone who has broken their wrist, someone who has shredded their
knees, and someone who has lost their motor control or personality. Then
decide what's most important to wear.
Moonkids
>What has been your experience with wearing equipment, and observing others
>doing so?
every time i go skating...i always do tricks, whether its just a 180 off a
sidewalk, or a 360 over a sewer. so when i go out, i always use wrist and
knee guards. i havent bothered to buy elbow pads, but i do have a helmet. i
find helmets really clunky and distracting. when i started out, i bought
elbow and knee guards, but i didnt use them that often because, they smelt
like urine after i skated (actually, at the time, i thought a dog urintated
in my pads, but it was just sweat) . i started wearing wrist guards once i
started doing like 15km skating sessions and doing more tricks. and i just
recently (two days ago) started wearing knee pads, as im planning to do some
phucked up things this summer
L. S. Quimby
In article <6fojb8$b...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, "Ian " <iar...@att.net>
wrote:
>
> What has been your experience with wearing equipment, and observing others
> doing so? Thanks for the input.
>
> Ian
I always wear wrist guards and a helmet and I am an experienced skater.
Part of my experience includes two broken wrists and a fall so hard it
broke my first helmet (but not my head). Those I skate with always wear
wrist guards and helmets too.
I was amazed at how a gentle fall will result in a broken bone, if done
"right". It's all well and good to say that once you're experienced enough
you won't need to wear any protective gear, and yes, I see most skaters
going without much more than wrist guards, but many of your falls will be
caused by "the other guy" over whom you have no control. And screaming
"It's not my fault" doesn't mend anything.
Just my two cents worth.
--
Larry Quimby
lqu...@laedu.lalc.k12.ca.us
>>Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time.<<
Steve Manifold
Ian wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> Beautiful day in NYC yesterday, and went blading around town. I am a
> beginner and went fully decked out with pads and helmet. In all of the
> info that I have been reading about skating, there is always mention of
> wearing a helmet and safety. I would say that not one other skater I saw
> was wearing a helmet. There were others with no protection at all, and
> then others with just wrist guards.
>
> doing so? Thanks for the input.
>
> Ian
When I was a beginner, I wore everything, and I'm glad I did. Now that I'm
proficient, I don't wear anything except my skates. And some clothes. The
exception is when I'm practicing backward skating out on the street, in which
case I wear elbow pads (I used to be an x-ray tech, and I have this phobia about
broken elbows after x-raying a man who tried out his son's skateboard - uggh).
I know there are some who will shrilly cry that all skaters should always wear
all protective gear, but really, once you're good enough there is not much need
except if you're pushing your limits. Sometimes I mess around on the hockey
rink without any gear, but if I'm involved in a serious game I wear
everything, including a cup and full facial protection. At my age, I'm not
getting any prettier, and chicks only dig scars on young studs.
But if it's just a few casual laps around the park, then I don't bother. You,
however, should wear your gear until you get to the point where you're
falling down in the bathtub more often than when skating. And don't forget
to wear your helmet when driving your car. The vast majority of head
injuries occur in automobiles.
Steve
Gordon "The Warmonger" White
Ian,
Just a little opinion from me. I am a staunch supporter off safety after an
18 mph skid. If it hadn't been for my knee and wrist pads, I would have
been seriously hurt.
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*Gordon "The Warmonger" White*
* http://www.iag.net/~warmongr/ *
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Ian <iar...@att.net> wrote in article
<6fojb8$b...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
Pete Hughes
On street, rec or hockey, never felt need for head
protection. May be important to have good pads, including
elbow, for confidence using body parts to protect head.
Hockey on a court, helmet required, hit it hard every few
games. Out of control falls more likely on this surface.
Never done aggro, would start with helmet [and cup...]
until learned more.
Enjoy
In article <6fojb8$b...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, iar...@att.net
says...
>
>Greetings,
>
>Beautiful day in NYC yesterday, and went blading around town. I am a
>beginner and went fully decked out with pads and helmet. In all of the
>info that I have been reading about skating, there is always mention of
>wearing a helmet and safety. I would say that not one other skater I
saw
>was wearing a helmet. There were others with no protection at all, and
>then others with just wrist guards.
>
>What has been your experience with wearing equipment, and observing
others
>doing so? Thanks for the input.
>
>Ian
--
My Opinion
Bob Cardone
"Ian " <iar...@att.net> wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>Beautiful day in NYC yesterday, and went blading around town. I am a
>beginner and went fully decked out with pads and helmet. In all of the
>info that I have been reading about skating, there is always mention of
>wearing a helmet and safety. I would say that not one other skater I saw
>was wearing a helmet. There were others with no protection at all, and
>then others with just wrist guards.
>
>What has been your experience with wearing equipment, and observing others
>doing so? Thanks for the input.
>
>Ian
I saw a beginner skater in Atlanta one day skate down a small hill in
Piedmont Park without a helmet. Halfway down the hill he hit a small
stone which threw him off balance. He was a concert pianist. When his
head hit the blacktop as he fell backwards, the first thing I noticed,
since I was standing about 30 feet away , was the blood coming out of
his ears. I said to the person next to me " fractured Skull"
Six months later he was out of the hospital and he was to the point
where he could say his name again.
BobSk8
Inline skaters without Helmets are called
Organ Donors
NYSPDCOACH
After 13 years of Coaching and another 12 years of competing before that, I can
not fathom skating without a helmet outdoors. I once was out training on my
bike, going rather slow, blew out a front tire, reached for my shoe strap and
lost it. landed on my head and shoulder with full force. Shattered the
helmet, dislocated the shoulder and fractured the shoulder blade.
Skate without a helmet and experience the pain of your first head fall. or
maybe you won't be able to feel it!
New York Speed Coach
NYSPD...@AOL.com
Kaspers
>Beautiful day in NYC yesterday, and went blading around town. I am a<BR>
>beginner and went fully decked out with pads and helmet. In all of the<BR>
>info that I have been reading about skating, there is always mention of<BR>
>wearing a helmet and safety. I would say that not one other skater I saw<BR>
>was wearing a helmet. There were others with no protection at all, and<BR>
>then others with just wrist guards. <BR>
><BR>
>What has been your experience with wearing equipment, and observing
>doing so? Thanks for the input. <BR>
I saw it posted somewhere in this group that they call skaters that skate
without helmets are also known as an "Organ Donors"
So figure it out! I wear all the gear and have taken only one fall but it was
a good one but because of the wrist, knee and elbow pads I just got up and kept
going. I've seen many others not so lucky from a lesser fall. Wear the pads
and live to skate another day!!
Richard J. "Baron" Moreno
I always go out in full gear (knee pads, elbow pads, wrist guards, helmet).
I've had the misfortune of learning the hard way. I've been inline skating
for over four years and have done damage to each part covered by a pad at
time that I wasn't wearing them. I've noticed that most posters say they
don't wear anything indoors, but I've found that when I'm indoors is when I
fall the most, because of anklebiters and even other adults. I collided
with a guy yesterday and I know that had I not been wearing my gear, I could
have bruised or broken my entire left arm and taken a good knock to the
head. Believe me, a concussion isn't very fun. A friend of mine that was
there fell without her wristguards and hyperextended all four of her fingers
on one hand. OUCH!
The way I figure it, I'd rather sacrifice my vanity than my body. it
doesn't matter how experienced a skater you are, the floor or ground will
always win a close encounter. if you're padded up, you can at least call it
a draw.
You only live twice:
Once when you're born, once when you
Look death in the face.
--Ian Fleming
Richard J. Moreno: bar...@bouldernews.infi.net ICQ#: 6472683
Ian wrote in message <6fojb8$b...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>Greetings,
>
>Beautiful day in NYC yesterday, and went blading around town. I am a
>beginner and went fully decked out with pads and helmet. In all of the
>info that I have been reading about skating, there is always mention of
>wearing a helmet and safety. I would say that not one other skater I saw
>was wearing a helmet. There were others with no protection at all, and
>then others with just wrist guards.
>
>What has been your experience with wearing equipment, and observing others
>doing so? Thanks for the input.
>
>Ian
Micha...@eds.com
"Ian " <iar...@att.net> wrote:
> wearing a helmet and safety. I would say that not one other skater I saw
> was wearing a helmet. There were others with no protection at all, and
> then others with just wrist guards.
> What has been your experience with wearing equipment, and observing others
> doing so? Thanks for the input.
helmets. While in DC on Sunday (driving to RFK not skating :(, I saw 1
skater with the full gear.
I always wear everything as I am just beginning. I will always wear
everything no matter how good I get. I just do not see the point in taking a
chance like that. One little pebble could send you head first into the
pavement or a nearby tree (bike paths).
Michael Cox
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Patrick J. Maher
Personally I don't where a helmet. I've been skating for about five years
and I can honestly say that I've never hit my head while skating, every
other part yes and I got the scars to prove it. When I skate I put the
majority of my weight on my toes, this way if I do fall it'll be forward.
The only pads I where are wrist and knee. The only times i where elbow
pads are when I'm doing wall rides b/c I hit my elbow on the wall
sometimes.
Pat
Martin Gold
No wonder you fall so often. Stop putting your weight over your toes. Place
your weight (center of gravity) squarely over your arches and as much to
the heel as possible, otherwise everytime you hit a pebble or twig it will
pitch you forward on your face.
Patrick J. Maher <mah...@TIGER.UOFS.EDU> wrote in article
<Pine.PMDF.3.95.9803311...@TIGER.UOFS.EDU>...
Dan Watson
Nope.. I don't wear a helmet.. but then again, I'm more a fitness/rec skater
than an aggressive one... if I were to do ramps and the like, I'd have some
protection on my noggin... I usually just go out with knee pads, and wrist
guards... and they are fairly scratched up... I own elbow pads, but don't wear
them anymore... never saw a scratch on those... maybe I'm playing Russian
Roulette.. but then again, I have good health insurance :)
Ian wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Beautiful day in NYC yesterday, and went blading around town. I am a
> beginner and went fully decked out with pads and helmet. In all of the
> info that I have been reading about skating, there is always mention of
> wearing a helmet and safety. I would say that not one other skater I saw
> was wearing a helmet. There were others with no protection at all, and
> then others with just wrist guards.
>
> What has been your experience with wearing equipment, and observing others
> doing so? Thanks for the input.
>
> Ian
Patrick J. Maher
> No wonder you fall so often. Stop putting your weight over your toes. Place
> your weight (center of gravity) squarely over your arches and as much to
> the heel as possible, otherwise everytime you hit a pebble or twig it will
> pitch you forward on your face.
I'd rather pitch forward than fall back. When you fall back you risk
breaking your wrist, landing on your tailbone, hurting your back, and
cracking you head.
And everytime I hit a pebble or twig I'm able to catch myself, well almost
everytime.
Pat
Matt Pickering
> Nope.. I don't wear a helmet.. but then again, I'm more a fitness/rec skater
> than an aggressive one... if I were to do ramps and the like, I'd have some
> protection on my noggin... I usually just go out with knee pads, and wrist
> guards... and they are fairly scratched up... I own elbow pads, but don't wear
> them anymore... never saw a scratch on those... maybe I'm playing Russian
> Roulette.. but then again, I have good health insurance :)
Scraped knees and elbows will heal. Good health insurance does you and your
family no good if you're a carrot. I'm a fitness and speed skater and I never
skate without a helmet and wrist guards. My elbow and knee pads are used
depending on the terrain and what injuries I'm healing up, such as a minor scrape
on my elbow after a fall during a crowded start. 5 or 25 mph doesn't matter much
to your skull, it's only going to differ by the degree of damage. Bad either
way. Helmets are my cheapest insurance.
Just one person's opinion.
Matt
Bob Cardone
Dan Watson <buck....@wmol.com> wrote:
>Nope.. I don't wear a helmet.. but then again, I'm more a fitness/rec skater
>than an aggressive one... if I were to do ramps and the like, I'd have some
>protection on my noggin... I usually just go out with knee pads, and wrist
>guards... and they are fairly scratched up... I own elbow pads, but don't wear
>them anymore... never saw a scratch on those... maybe I'm playing Russian
>Roulette.. but then again, I have good health insurance :)
>
>
If you fall on your head, you'll need good health insurance.. Also
dribbling while you try to talk is a real turn off!!!
charlie
If you skate you will fall down. If you fall down you might get hurt.
Skaters are less vulnerable to head injuries in accidents than cyclists,
but regardless, if you hit your head you could wind up spending the rest
of your life at home with your mother. Having said that, I wear a
helmet, hand and knee protection mostly so I can skate more
aggressively.
Charlie
Toby Micklethwait
In article <352049...@mail.utexas.edu>, Steve Manifold
<s.man...@mail.utexas.edu> writes
>
> And don't forget
>to wear your helmet when driving your car.
Are you seriously suggesting that we should all wear crash helmets in
cars? Do you?
--
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programs - 01932-873557.
timmi dean
with regards to wearing protective gear; its all up to you. if your
comfortable without wearing any gear, thats fine. if your not comfortable
unless your fully equipt, then thats fine too. i personally only wear
wrist guards when skating aggressive, and no gear else were. thats my
thought.
timmi dean
Micha...@eds.com
cardone!@!mindspring.com wrote:
> >them anymore... never saw a scratch on those... maybe I'm playing Russian
> >Roulette.. but then again, I have good health insurance :)
> If you fall on your head, you'll need good health insurance.. Also
> dribbling while you try to talk is a real turn off!!!
drooling while talking is a whole other problem.
Insurance may not cover you anyway if you are not wearing a helmet.
Insurance companies can find loopholes everywhere!
Bob Sutherland
charlie wrote:
>
> If you skate you will fall down. If <cut>
> if you hit your head you could wind up spending the rest
> of your life at home with your mother.
Does that mean if I insist that she wear a helmet I can be assured that
she won't want to come live with me?
Just curious...
Bob Sutherland
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David Cary Hart
"A few casual laps around the Park"?
Last fall, after a few casual laps around Central Park, I took a major
spill. As I was exiting the Park (5th Avenue and 79th Street) I was grabbed
by a toddler who thought I looked nifty and took a very nasty fall that
resulted in a visit to the Lenox Hill ER.
I've come close several times since; Usually the result of short dogs on
long leashes.
I now wear everything except elbow pads. Proficiency cannot protect you from
the acts of others and I'll look like a dork any day of the week if it might
save my eyesight or even my life!
--
David Cary Hart, President
Cary Hart Associates, Executive Search
www.caryhart.com
Steve Manifold wrote in message <352049...@mail.utexas.edu>...
>When I was a beginner, I wore everything, and I'm glad I did. Now that I'm
>proficient, I don't wear anything except my skates. And some clothes.
The
>But if it's just a few casual laps around the park, then I don't bother.
You,
>however, should wear your gear until you get to the point where you're
>falling down in the bathtub more often than when skating. And don't forget
Steve Manifold
Toby Micklethwait wrote:
>
> In article <352049...@mail.utexas.edu>, Steve Manifold
> <s.man...@mail.utexas.edu> writes
> >
> >to wear your helmet when driving your car.
>
> cars? Do you?
>
Uh... why, yes! I think we should all wear crash helmets in cars. It is an
undisputed fact that the vast majority of head injuries occur in automobile
accidents. Therefore, it is only consistent that people should not only always
wear helmets when skating (no matter how good a skater you are, because you
know, even a tiny pebble or twig or errant gastropod will send you catapulting
forward onto the pavement, splattering your unprotected head like one of
those eggs Galileo dropped from the Tower of Pisa on the unsuspecting people
below - or was that Archimedes?) where was I? Oh yes, not only while skating,
but if you truly care about your head, you'll wear one while driving, and
indeed in all activities in which the slightest chance of head injury might
occur, such as cycling, playing rough sports, skateboarding, curling, running,
walking, standing, sitting, showering, spitting and sleeping. If you insist on
wearing one while skating, then it only makes sense that you should wear one
all the time.
Steve
P.S. No! I'm not joking! I'm serious! I'm wearing my hockey helmet right
now, in case that asteroid FX 11 1997 lands nearby!
James G. Mamoulides II
I'm a beginner and have had a few minor falls, and can tell you, it
ain't like on the ice or the skate rink. Asphalt and rocks bite hard!
I had one fall where I hit mud, the wheels stopped and I went
horizontal! And I was going slow! Got away with a razzy on my
cheek.
The worst of it was cleaning my skates afterward.
Why not get up (as I did) after the fall and keep skating?
I'm a cyclist, and I wouldn't dream of not wearing my helmet. I use
the same one for skating.
Experience and the kind of skating counts, but it seems that a large
number of the skaters I've seen not wearing pads are because they
think it's not "cool".
The guy I bought my skates from won't go out with less than a helmet
and wristguards.
Andreas Knoll
> > doing so? Thanks for the input.
> >
> > Ian
Hi,
I always wear knee prot. and wrist guards when skating for fitness,
around a see.
I do not were elbow pads all the time and wera no helmet.
When I skate aggressive, pipe, I wear all the stuff, helm, wrist,
elbow, knee, sometimes a Timezone and shin guards.
But without any protectives, as I see half of the people? No Way!
One day a skated with some friends on a smooth bicycle way(correct
word?), not so fast, much fun, and suddenly I fall forward, can't
do anything, and found myself on hand and knees.
I looked at my skates and a nice little stone was between my 2. and 3.
wheel, very tight, so that none of hese wheels spin anymore.
I pulled out the stone and was glad I wear my pads......
Ciao
Andreas
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> Nope.. I don't wear a helmet.. but then again, I'm more a fitness/rec
skater
> than an aggressive one... if I were to do ramps and the like, I'd have some
> protection on my noggin... I usually just go out with knee pads, and wrist
> guards... and they are fairly scratched up... I own elbow pads, but don't
wear
> them anymore... never saw a scratch on those... maybe I'm playing Russian
> Roulette.. but then again, I have good health insurance :)
>
> > Ian
>
>
A helmet is a must-have item. Its the only protective item I wear when
speedskating. Bruises and scratches hurt but a human skull impacting
pavement could result in having to drink from a straw and cruise around in an
electric chair for the rest of one's life.
But hey, I ain't yo momma, we're all adults here and freedom of choice is
American...
andrew david reynolds
jma...@mindspring.com (James G. Mamoulides II) writes:
>The guy I bought my skates from won't go out with less than a helmet
>and wristguards.
This is one of the things I don't understand too well.
(the going out with wristguards and no kneepads)
My first fall, I landed on my wristguards, but in order to keep my
knees off the ground I had to tense my whole body.
Basically, I was skidding on my wrists and the toes of my skates.
I ended up with badly strained jaw and neck muscles and since then, I've
always gone out with wrist and knee pads.
Just one extra point to support my weight.
-andrew
Leonard Warren
If you wear only knee pads you can fall on your knees all day long. If
you lean back you won't even skin up your hands.
Bob Cardone
That's BS. If you are skating forward fast and you fall there is no
way you can land on your knees unless you have a strap tied to your
neck and the other end is tied to a Sky Hook that is 10 feet above
you. <G>
.
James McNalley
I used to go out with wrist pads, knee pads, and helmet. One
day, I was hit by a bike and slid a long way on my side. The contact
points with the ground were the metal pivot on the side of my K2 skates,
both wrist guards, and the side of my knee. I don't think any of the knee
pad touched the ground at all. A few weeks later, I turned onto some
loose gravel, and did a similar slide, this time w/o the knee pads, but
again, I slid on the side of my knees, so pads wouldn't have helped. Also,
knee pads tend to slide down, so you end up pulling them up, and that may
be more dangerous (not paying enough attention). BTW, I'm a recreational
skater, no agressive stuff, etc. Since then I have had no further injuries,
and consider wrist guards essential equipment. Helmet is good too, mostly
to keep the campus police from bothering me, and in the event I get hit
by a car...
andrew david reynolds <arey...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
: jma...@mindspring.com (James G. Mamoulides II) writes:
: >The guy I bought my skates from won't go out with less than a helmet
: >and wristguards.
: This is one of the things I don't understand too well.
: (the going out with wristguards and no kneepads)
: My first fall, I landed on my wristguards, but in order to keep my
: knees off the ground I had to tense my whole body.
: Basically, I was skidding on my wrists and the toes of my skates.
: I ended up with badly strained jaw and neck muscles and since then, I've
: always gone out with wrist and knee pads.
: Just one extra point to support my weight.
: -andrew
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John Ring
timmi dean (timm...@usa.net) wrote:
: with regards to wearing protective gear; its all up to you. if your
I see from your spelling and capitalization that you've already hit your
head a few times. ;)
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like something else.
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Harmon
I have been thrown off of bikes at 30+ miles/hour dropped, spun, hit,
and crushed by just about everything I can think of and have never owned
a helmet. You guys make me a little nervous but I tell myself one thing
I can break bones, skinn my knees and even hit my head and no one will
care. But if I break my hands, I can't do my job. Who am I. A
systems administrator. I don't think anyone would notice if I just started
to drool. :)
-Gene
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> timmi dean (timm...@usa.net) wrote:
> : with regards to wearing protective gear; its all up to you. if your
> : comfortable without wearing any gear, thats fine. if your not comfortable
> : unless your fully equipt, then thats fine too. i personally only wear
> : wrist guards when skating aggressive, and no gear else were. thats my
> : thought.
>
> I see from your spelling and capitalization that you've already hit your
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>
>I have been thrown off of bikes at 30+ miles/hour dropped, spun, hit,
>and crushed by just about everything I can think of and have never owned
>a helmet. You guys make me a little nervous but I tell myself one thing
>I can break bones, skinn my knees and even hit my head and no one will
>care. But if I break my hands, I can't do my job. Who am I. A
>systems administrator. I don't think anyone would notice if I just started
>to drool. :)
>
>-Gene
>
>
>
>I have been thrown off of bikes at 30+ miles/hour dropped, spun, hit,
>and crushed by just about everything I can think of and have never owned
>a helmet. You guys make me a little nervous but I tell myself one thing
>I can break bones, skinn my knees and even hit my head and no one will
>care. But if I break my hands, I can't do my job. Who am I. A
>systems administrator. I don't think anyone would notice if I just started
>to drool. :)
>
>-Gene
>
>
Coming from another system administrator to another, Isn't drooling part of
our job description????
New York Speed Coach
NYSPD...@AOL.com
Bob Cardone
jr...@transend.com.tw (John Ring) wrote:
>timmi dean (timm...@usa.net) wrote:
>: with regards to wearing protective gear; its all up to you. if your
>: comfortable without wearing any gear, thats fine. if your not comfortable
>: unless your fully equipt, then thats fine too. i personally only wear
>: wrist guards when skating aggressive, and no gear else were. thats my
>: thought.
>
>I see from your spelling and capitalization that you've already hit your
>head a few times. ;)
>
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> If you can't do it well,
> like something else.
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> care. But if I break my hands, I can't do my job. Who am I. A
> systems administrator. I don't think anyone would notice if I just started
> to drool. :)
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Jerry long
pads make me feel insecure but recently i started wearing knee pads cuz
my knees are skrewed but helmets are pointless
Bob Cardone
CJLV...@webtv.net (Jerry long) wrote:
>pads make me feel insecure but recently i started wearing knee pads cuz
>my knees are skrewed but helmets are pointless
If I spelled like you, I probably wouldn't bother with a helmet
either.
James G. Mamoulides II
Think a tiny little rock between wheel 2 and 3 going downhill at 15 -
20 mph. Hmmmmm
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:30:07 -0700, CJLV...@webtv.net (Jerry long)
Ting Hsu
The best way to get around the problem you are having (slipping pads,
pads that don't cover enough of your skin during a fall, etc) is to buy
aggressive pads. Aggressive pads (lazzy leg, pro designed, etc) are huge
and designed to protect you from falls at strange angles.
James McNalley <jmcn...@attila.stevens-tech.edu> wrote:
> I used to go out with wrist pads, knee pads, and helmet. One
>day, I was hit by a bike and slid a long way on my side. The contact
>points with the ground were the metal pivot on the side of my K2 skates,
>both wrist guards, and the side of my knee. I don't think any of the knee
>pad touched the ground at all. A few weeks later, I turned onto some
>loose gravel, and did a similar slide, this time w/o the knee pads, but
>again, I slid on the side of my knees, so pads wouldn't have helped. Also,
>knee pads tend to slide down, so you end up pulling them up, and that may
>be more dangerous (not paying enough attention).
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John Benson-Cooper
If you break your wrist, break an arm, or break a leg they will mend. If
you crack a skull the bones will heal, but the brain inside will not. It
seems to me the helmet should be first, not last.
postm...@127.0.0.1
CJLV...@webtv.net (Jerry long) wrote:
>pads make me feel insecure but recently i started wearing knee pads cuz
>my knees are skrewed but helmets are pointless
That's why none of them feel like they fit well.
mr...@portsmouth.k12.nh.us
I think it all depends on what you are doing. If I go to a skate park
than I will wear a helmet, but if I want to do somthing near my house
(stuff I have been doing for a while.) Than I might not wear one, If
your new, than you should.
BirdyGrind
It depends coz I don't normally fall on my head. It is natural for me and if
you really feel the need to wear a helmet then do so. It can save your life
on time or another.
I've heard about this guy who fell from a 18 steps rail and he fell on the
double set which is already about 9 steps from the top. That's how high he
fell but he was wearing a helmet then so all he had was 12 stitches and a
cracked wrist. He was lucky he had his helmet on. So getting back to what
I've said, wear your helmet if you feel insecure or afraid you might land on
your head. Ignore what people may say about you wearing a helmet. You have
your reasons.
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Steve Manifold
postm...@127.0.0.1 wrote:
>
> CJLV...@webtv.net (Jerry long) wrote:
>
> >pads make me feel insecure but recently i started wearing knee pads cuz
> >my knees are skrewed but helmets are pointless
>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<ack> <cough> <sniff>
Very good.
Skibunny5
I don't always wear my helmet, but when someone says I don't fall on my head
that is ridiculous. I guess that persons think they can control all
circumstances at all times. It is kinda like saying I don't get in car
accidents so why wear a seatbelt? Ignore anyone who says wear seatbelts...they
don't save lives.
stevenjk666
i've never fallen on my head i skateboard and/or blading.
Bob Cardone
stevenjk666 <steve...@geocities.com> wrote:
>i've never fallen on my head i skateboard and/or blading.
That means so far you have been extremely lucky. The question is ,
will your luck hold?
Amber Robinson
stevenjk666 <steve...@geocities.com> wrote:
>i've never fallen on my head i skateboard and/or blading.
And your point is what ? That you won't wear a helmet
until you do ?
It only takes one time my friend...
After working with head injured clients who had fallen
while blading or cycling, and seeing them have difficulty
with even the most basic tasks like adding, making meals,
reading etc, I have no hesitation in putting on a helmet to
blade or cycle.
All these head injured people will never have a second
chance to put on their helmets because most will never
again have the coordination or balsnce (due to the head
injury) to blade or cycle again.
I am a young person myself and never wore a helmet before I
worked at the above job...now I always do when I blade or
cycle.
Amber
Scott Renger
Always on the road, always in a hockey scrimmage or league game,
seldom while practicing hockey by myself. Who wouldn't wear one on
the road? Someone who likes bouncing their head off curbs, cars,
asphalt, trees, glass, pedestrians, etc. So far I haven't hit my
head, but until I can see the future with 100% accuracy I'll continue
to wear the helmet. And kneepads and wristguards, too.
Scott Renger, sre...@pacificnet.net
"An adult is nothing more than a child
who has forgotten how to play."
Bill B.
stevenjk666 <steve...@geocities.com> wrote in article
<353FFEF3...@geocities.com>...
> i've never fallen on my head i skateboard and/or blading.
>
I have followed this helmet off and on for the last few weeks and find it
absurd that someone would not wear a helmet. There is no downside for
wearing one and the upside is an incredible amount of life insurance. I
totally agree with Amber's message urging the use of helmets. She spoke of
the physically impared people she works with that are irreversibly injured
by head trauma which could have been prevented by helmets.
I would like to illustrate that head trauma not only leads to potential
paralysis but also death. At the beginning of this year many people in our
neighborhood were grieving over the death of a hockey player at the area's
highschool. He gave up his helmet to the goaltender who came to the game
with out one. During play he was knocked to the ground, and suffered severe
head trauma. He was pronounced brain dead the next day, and died soon
after.
Shouldn't death be a big enough incentive to wear a helmet?
--Bill.
Minji Park
I've been blading for several years now and have never fallen on my head
as well. The only safety equipment I found useful are wrist braces, to
protect my wrists from the abuse when I'm breaking a fall onto my butt.
My butt can take the abuse when I fall, but I have never needed to use
knee pads and such. I don't know about elbow pads though.
Amber Robinson
Hi,
"Bill B." <bi...@pmicorp.com> wrote:
>
>
>I have followed this helmet off and on for the last few weeks and find it
>absurd that someone would not wear a helmet. There is no downside for
>wearing one and the upside is an incredible amount of life insurance. I
>totally agree with Amber's message urging the use of helmets. She spoke of
>the physically impared people she works with that are irreversibly injured
>by head trauma which could have been prevented by helmets.
Thank you...I had thought, after posting that note that it
may have come across a little too strongly or like a
lecture of sorts. However, after working with all these
young people with head injuries and seeing their lives
destroyed from one fall without a helmet, I cannot fathom
going without one.
Yes, they mess up your hair but if you don't wear one and
bounce your head of the road, you may not have the mental
capacity to worry about anything, let alone your hair.
>I would like to illustrate that head trauma not only leads to potential
>paralysis but also death. At the beginning of this year many people in our
>neighborhood were grieving over the death of a hockey player at the area's
>highschool. He gave up his helmet to the goaltender who came to the game
>with out one. During play he was knocked to the ground, and suffered severe
>head trauma. He was pronounced brain dead the next day, and died soon
>after.
Yes, death is certainly a possibility after a head injury.
>
>Shouldn't death be a big enough incentive to wear a helmet?
I guess for some people. it doesn't seem a reality until
its too late.
Amber
Amber Robinson
Minji,
Minji Park <mp...@acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote:
>I've been blading for several years now and have never fallen on my head
>as well.
The only safety equipment I found useful are wrist braces,
to
>protect my wrists from the abuse when I'm breaking a fall onto my butt.
>My butt can take the abuse when I fall, but I have never needed to use
>knee pads and such. I don't know about elbow pads though.
Are you sure you haven't fallen on your head before ??
Steve Manifold
Don't any of you people believe your skating can improve to the point that the
chances of sustaining a head injury are about the same as any other
unfortunate accident that might happen? Like several others that have
posted, I fell down a bit at first (yet never on my head), but now I don't even
fall down when run into during a hockey game. I wear a helmet during
hockey, but more for keeping sticks and pucks out of my face than because I'm
afraid I'm going to crack my skull, and if I'm skating around outside I never
do. I also don't wear a helmet when driving in spite of the fact that the vast
majority of head injuries occur in car accidents, and I don't wear a bullet proof
vest when I'm in certain parts of town. What about you? Do you wear your
helmet when driving? In the shower? At the golf course? Why not?
Steve
Your name
I think after reading this post I will go out and buy a helmet. I started out
with just wrist pads, then added knee pads, then elbow pads and now a helmet!
Well the reason I skate is for exercise as well as fun; I guess I'll get a
better work out with all the additional weight. ;-)
Seriously though, are there helmets made specifically for skating or will a
bicycle helmet work?
>
John Frie
" I've never fallen on my head and that's why I don't wear a helmet " is
one of the most ridiculous things in skating I've heard and I've heard
a lot of STUPID comments made.
Even though head injuries are statistically the least occuring injury in
inline skating, all fatalities that have occured to date have been head
related by people who did not wear a helmet. IT ONLY HAS TO HAPPEN ONCE.
I know and skate with hundreds of skaters from novices to expert and am
a level 3 certified instructor. I have never met anyone who is so good
that they don't need to wear protection, especially head protection.
People are more confident skaters while wearing the proper protection
and therefore become better skaters. The ones who don't, always have, in
the back of their minds that the potential of being hurt very badly is
there and therefore do not perform at their best and progess at a
retarded rate if at all.
Many people will dissagree and they are the ones without a clue. Wear a
helmet. You only have to fall and hit your head once. Even though,
again, it will probably not happen the risk is always there and that in
itself should be justification enough to wear a helmet.
skate safe
john
Amber Robinson
Hi there,
Your name <no...@ofyourbusiness.com> wrote:
>I think after reading this post I will go out and buy a helmet. I started out
>with just wrist pads, then added knee pads, then elbow pads and now a helmet!
Good idea...good safety equipment is pretty light and while
a little uncomfortable sometimes, it is far better than the
discomfort you'll feel sliding across the asphalt and
leaving your skin behind :-)
>Well the reason I skate is for exercise as well as fun; I guess I'll get a
>better work out with all the additional weight. ;-)
>
>Seriously though, are there helmets made specifically for skating or will a
>bicycle helmet work?
>
There is helmets specifically for Rollerblading that are
lower in the back than a regular bike helmet, however, a
bike helmet is plenty good enough. I have a new Bell
Vertigo Pro helmet and it is pretty low at the back
anyway..very comfortable, light and great fit.
Hope this helps,
>
>
>
Amber Robinson
Hi John,
John Frie <jf...@erols.com> wrote:
>" I've never fallen on my head and that's why I don't wear a helmet " is
>one of the most ridiculous things in skating I've heard and I've heard
>a lot of STUPID comments made.
Exactly !!!!
Here is a personal example that should drive the point
home ...if you choose not to wear a helmet after you read
this, I don't know what else anybody can do to protect you
from your own stupidity.
Last year, while rollerblading on a very quiet street in my
neighbourhood, I was hit by a car. He did not stop when he
saw me crossing in front of him (I had already been skating
in the crosswalk when he approached). I hit the front of
his car and then the ground. He did not stop and took off.
I ended up with cracked ribs, serious roadrash, glass in
my leg, and a dislocated shoulder.
The doctors said that had I not worn my helmet, which is
totally destroyed, I would have been dead. I was lucky to
come away with a concussion and the above injuries.
It can happen anywhere, anytime, no matter how good a
skater you happen to be.
And also, if you do have an impact with your helmet on, DO
NOT wear it again...they have to be replaced even if you
cannot see any external damage.
I am sure John will agree with this.
>
>Even though head injuries are statistically the least occuring injury in
>inline skating, all fatalities that have occured to date have been head
>related by people who did not wear a helmet. IT ONLY HAS TO HAPPEN ONCE.
>
>Many people will dissagree and they are the ones without a clue. Wear a
>helmet. You only have to fall and hit your head once. Even though,
>again, it will probably not happen the risk is always there and that in
>itself should be justification enough to wear a helmet.
Exactly - it only has to happen once - it happened to
me...could happen to any of you and it just isn't worth the
risk.
Amber Robinson
>
>skate safe
>
>john
>
Amber Robinson
Steve,
>
>Don't any of you people believe your skating can improve to the point that the
>chances of sustaining a head injury are about the same as any other
>unfortunate accident that might happen?
I think you are missing the point here...
Look at those who race on inline skates - they are top
notch skaters - They all wear helmets.
Like several others that have
>posted, I fell down a bit at first (yet never on my head), but now I don't even
>fall down when run into during a hockey game. I wear a helmet during
>hockey, but more for keeping sticks and pucks out of my face than because I'm
>afraid I'm going to crack my skull, and if I'm skating around outside I never
>do.
Sticks and pucks ?...you'll wear a helmet so you don't get
hit by a stick but you won't wear one to stop you from
cracking your skull open ?
Maybe you could explain your logic to us ?
I also don't wear a helmet when driving in spite of the
fact that the vast
>majority of head injuries occur in car accidents,
I think you may have your stats wrong here...
head injuries in car accidents usually occur because the
people in the car were not wearing seatbelts...and if they
do sustain head injuries (despite wearing seatbelts) they
have usually suffered severe internal injuries and multiple
traumas - the combination of all these injuries is what
kills people in car accidents.
and I don't wear a bullet proof
>vest when I'm in certain parts of town. What about you? Do you wear your
>helmet when driving? In the shower? At the golf course? Why not?
You're missing the point...we are talking about preventing
injuries while inline skating...
Not while bathing or standing on the golf green...
James G. Mamoulides II
I might go along with this post if you only skate by yourself, slowly,
on an indoor roller rink, with padded fencing.
;-)
From personal experience, friend's experiences and reading here,
conditions other than the above can all lead to your cracking your
head open:
Downhill with speed and a rock appears between wheel 2 and 3
An (insert age) year old kid hits you unexpectedly from behind
A car pulls out in front of you
A bicyclist hits you
A dog jumps in front of you
A dog makes a sudden move and his leash tangles you
Your wheels hit a small patch of mud
You lean over to pick up something you dropped
Bug in your eye at speed
Bee sting at speed
Stick in the road at speed
The person fishing decides to cast in front of you
The person skating next to you / passing you steps on your skate
Unexpected dip in the asphalt
Notice that none of these involves aggro skating or hockey. Good
inlines are fast and you can wind up on your head, arm, side, butt,
etc. doing almost nothing, no matter how careful or experienced you
are.
I used to cycle 25 miles a day and always wore my helmet. I crashed
on my bike for some of the reasons above. You can't predict anything
and a helmet is pretty cheap insurance.
I really don't understand why this is even an argument. For $25 - $40
head injuries become mostly a non-problem.
I wonder if the real reason is plain old vanity:
It's not cool.
That's a REALLY STUPID REASON not to wear a helmet.
On Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:03:48 +0000, Steve Manifold
<s.man...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
>Don't any of you people believe your skating can improve to the point that the
>chances of sustaining a head injury are about the same as any other
>unfortunate accident that might happen? Like several others that have
>posted, I fell down a bit at first (yet never on my head), but now I don't even
>fall down when run into during a hockey game. I wear a helmet during
>hockey, but more for keeping sticks and pucks out of my face than because I'm
>afraid I'm going to crack my skull, and if I'm skating around outside I never
>do. I also don't wear a helmet when driving in spite of the fact that the vast
>majority of head injuries occur in car accidents, and I don't wear a bullet proof
>vest when I'm in certain parts of town. What about you? Do you wear your
>helmet when driving? In the shower? At the golf course? Why not?
>
>
>Steve
John Benson-Cooper
Steve Manifold wrote:
> Don't any of you people believe your skating can improve to the point that the
> chances of sustaining a head injury are about the same as any other
> unfortunate accident that might happen? Like several others that have
> posted, I fell down a bit at first (yet never on my head), but now I don't even
> fall down when run into during a hockey game. I wear a helmet during
> hockey, but more for keeping sticks and pucks out of my face than because I'm
> afraid I'm going to crack my skull, and if I'm skating around outside I never
> do. I also don't wear a helmet when driving in spite of the fact that the vast
> majority of head injuries occur in car accidents, and I don't wear a bullet proof
> vest when I'm in certain parts of town. What about you? Do you wear your
> helmet when driving? In the shower? At the golf course? Why not?
>
> Steve
Well, how ridiculous!!
Yes you are so good that you won't fall down. Yes you have such amazing balance and
control that other people can't knock you down. Your skill and expertise is not a
sound argument for not wearing a helmet. What about events that are out of your
control? Particularly events that you are not aware of, until that collision
occurs, or that severe cramp locks up one leg and you lose control, or any of the
other things that have happened to other people out of the blue.
Unlike most people your undoubted skill means you don't need to protect your head
from yourself but surely you need to protect it from other people with less skill or
from unknown events.
C. Ramko
Steve Manifold wrote:
> Don't any of you people believe your skating can improve to the point that the
> chances of sustaining a head injury are about the same as any other
> unfortunate accident that might happen?
(snip)
Have you signed an organ donor card?
> hockey, but more for keeping sticks and pucks out of my face than because I'm
> afraid I'm going to crack my skull, and if I'm skating around outside I never
> do.
(snip)
> I also don't wear a helmet when driving in spite of the fact that the vast
> majority of head injuries occur in car accidents,
(snip)
Have you signed an organ donor card?
FYI, in organ transplant circles, holidays during which motor
vehicle use is at a seasonal high are informally called 'donor
season'. It's fine to make light of people's caution, but ad
hominems are pretty much useless. If you don't want to wear a
helmet, don't. Someone will profit from your potential injury.
Chris Ramko
©
Well next time take a look around before crossing a street!
Amber Robinson wrote in message <35451e2f.0@carrera>...
Amber Robinson
To whatever your name is,
"©" <bond...@mci2000.com-NO-DAMN-SPAM> wrote:
>Well next time take a look around before crossing a street!
You completely missed the point !!!
>>
>>Last year, while rollerblading on a very quiet street in my
>>neighbourhood, I was hit by a car. He did not stop when he
>>saw me crossing in front of him (I had already been skating
>>in the crosswalk when he approached).
By the way, the guy was going way to fast...I was very
aware of what was going on. He came around a corner and
swang right into me. However, somehow you managed to miss
the point - which was - had I not been wearing a helmet, I
would have been killed - yes, he was going that fast !!!
Do you get it now ???
Kent
Amber Robinson wrote in message <3544a8f0.0@carrera>...
>Minji Park <mp...@acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote:
>
>The only safety equipment I found useful are wrist braces,
>to
>>protect my wrists from the abuse when I'm breaking a fall onto my butt.
>
>>My butt can take the abuse when I fall, but I have never needed to use
>>knee pads and such. I don't know about elbow pads though.
>
>Are you sure you haven't fallen on your head before ??
lol!! I have to admit, I'm a recent convert to helmet-wearing since taking
up inline skating--never used to wear them while cycling, and for the worst
possible reason: looks. But let's face it, no amount of scare stories are
going to make people wear helmets when they don't want to and it's legal not
to. If scare stories worked, nobody would smoke cigarettes, would they?
Nevertheless, *I* have found elbow pads extremely useful. When I first
started skating, I bought one of those packages that come with knee pads and
wrist guards, but no elbow pads. Skated with those and a helmet for some
time on level ground--even got through a few hills with only a minor tumble
or two. Well, one hill sent me for a major spin, I lost control and wiped
out on the pavement. The only injury? My elbows, of course, one of which
I'm sure will be permanently scarred. I probably spent more on gauze,
peroxide and anti-biotic cream than I would have on elbow pads in the first
place.
OK, I was skating beyond my ability, but if I don't do that once in a while,
how will I improve? Having the full gear just makes me that much less
fearful of falling in the first place and more willing to stretch my
abilities. Personally, I would hate landing on my butt each and every time
I fell! I guess my whole point is this: Greater skill obviously decreases
the chance of falling, but there is no guarantee that you won't fall nor
that when you do, you'll land on whatever protective gear or padded body
part you'd *like* to land on. (And I'm sure you don't actually have to
*land* on your head to get a brain injury--one sharp smack against pavement
might just do the trick.)
Peace,
Kent
Bob Cardone
"Kent" <fin...@uleth.ca> wrote:
>Amber Robinson wrote in message <3544a8f0.0@carrera>...
>>Minji Park <mp...@acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote:
>>
I have skated all my life and played hockey since I was 10. I was
standing talking to someone one day on my ice skates and I just fell,
still to this day, don't know what happened. My elbow hurt for about
2 years.
John Kettyle, Jr.
stevenjk666 <steve...@geocities.com> wrote:
>i've never fallen on my head i skateboard and/or blading.
I haven't either .. but there are stories. A friend of mine was riding
a bike and a dog ran into the street and he ran into it. It threw him
forward (not up) and he landed on the helmet splitting the helmet and
knocking him unconsious. The doctors told him if not for the helmet he
would be dead.
The distance from ones head to the pavement is the same for a skater
and a cyclist (for all practicle purposes).
Doesn't that scare you? :-)
Now, I'm not a wearer of helmets wether skating or biking. I am aware
of the dangers and if I get brain trauma in a fall - I'm the idiot for
not wearing it. It doesn't matter if you are the greatest or safest
skater. You aren't the problem - it's everyone else. I have been hit
by 4 cars and one truck. I am the lucky one who sustained no major
damage. I skate on a very busy road along the Jersey Shore. Most
driver believe that if you don't have a chrome bumper you don't belong
on the road.
I have also had the pleasure of jumping off a ramp and falling
( sprawling) into the road. I skidded on my head, and amazed EVERYONE
by getting up and living. I try not to jump without a helmet.
If you want to lessen your chances of an accident wear a helmet, wrist
gards, knee pads and elbo pads. You increase your chances of injury
from an accident or fall by omitting any one of them.
Johnnie
WKor III
A helmet saved my life (and my brain) when I got hit by a car on my bicycle.
Now I wear one on skates. To me, to skate/ride without a helmet is asking for
it. Noone plans to get hit or crash. Helmets are for when it happens anyway.
Only $25 to save my life? I'll take it!
my 2c Bill
KYeo102194
Why don't you ever see anybody at an ice or rolloer rink wearing a helmet. Are
helmets only for inliners? What about all those old roller disco things.
Helmets would just look ridiculous with all those sequins :)
Karl
Junius Starks
AMEN JAMES !!!!
Nicely said !!!
And I concur fully..
I wear my helmet and make my 5 year old boy suit up to (knee pads, elbow
pads, wrist guards, and of course the HELMET !!). At this rate I may
be a grandfather someday with a healthy son.
I don't want me or my kid to be a skating statistic !!!!!
> <s.man...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
> >Don't any of you people believe your skating can improve to the point that the
> >chances of sustaining a head injury are about the same as any other
> >unfortunate accident that might happen? Like several others that have
> >posted, I fell down a bit at first (yet never on my head), but now I don't even
> >fall down when run into during a hockey game. I wear a helmet during
> >hockey, but more for keeping sticks and pucks out of my face than because I'm
> >afraid I'm going to crack my skull, and if I'm skating around outside I never
Brad Powers
KYeo102194 wrote:
It's worth noting that every single racer I've ever seen on an inside track
(roller rink) has always worn a helmet. Every racer I've seen practicing on our
local Rail Trail always wears a helmut. However, for the rest of us, it may be
relevant that the chances of getting tripped up by some unforeseen happening (like
a dog; a pebble; a stick) are minimal indoors but always present outdoors. I have
to admit I don't wear a helmut indoors but always do when skating outside.
/Brad Powers
Junius Starks
Road Rash Man!!! Road Raaassshhh !!! I am a quad-skater and inliner
too.
I've had many a tumble in a rink and wished i'd had some pads on
afterwards.
The bad stuff does happen at indoor rinks but not as often. Indoor
speed skaters
use helmets (I used one when I use to.). Outside is a different story,
There's
more speed and a hell of a lot of hidden obstacles. When was the last
time you
ever tripped over a rock or twig while zipping around an indoor rink at
about 25
mph.
peace
j-man
Matt Pickering
> Why don't you ever see anybody at an ice or rolloer rink wearing a helmet. Are
> helmets only for inliners? What about all those old roller disco things.
> Helmets would just look ridiculous with all those sequins :)
Helmets are required in short track speed skating. I do see kids from time to
time at my rink wearing a helmet. In the specialized inline disciplines such as
artistic, skaters have developed themselves to the point that they know their
limits. In speed, it isn't a question, you don't step on the rink without the
helmet.
In Canada, helmets are required by all cyclists and skaters outdoors. It's not a
choice there anymore, its the law.
--
Matt Pickering
Visit the Laser Inline Racing Team at
http://home1.gte.net/mattp/laserspeed/index.html
Inline short track speed skating at lightspeed!
JP Cormier
:Helmets are required in short track speed skating. I do see kids from time
to
:time at my rink wearing a helmet. In the specialized inline disciplines
such as
:artistic, skaters have developed themselves to the point that they know
their
:limits. In speed, it isn't a question, you don't step on the rink without
the
:helmet.
:
:In Canada, helmets are required by all cyclists and skaters outdoors. It's
not a
:choice there anymore, its the law.
:--
(I believe that is only the case for under 18 year olds Matt)
Friday
Brad Powers wrote:
> It's worth noting that every single racer I've ever seen on an inside track
> (roller rink) has always worn a helmet. Every racer I've seen practicing on our
> local Rail Trail always wears a helmut. However, for the rest of us, it may be
> relevant that the chances of getting tripped up by some unforeseen happening (like
> a dog; a pebble; a stick) are minimal indoors but always present outdoors. I have
> to admit I don't wear a helmut indoors but always do when skating outside.
At our local rink, the chance of getting tripped by something
unforeseen, and usually about 7 years old and fast moving, is fairly
substantial!
Around here, I reckon about 95% of skaters wear no protection at all.
This includes youngsters whose parents have bought them skates, but
thoughtfully left out the protection.
Alan
Brad Powers
Alan wrote:
> At our local rink, the chance of getting tripped by something
> unforeseen, and usually about 7 years old and fast moving, is fairly
> substantial!
>
> Around here, I reckon about 95% of skaters wear no protection at all.
> This includes youngsters whose parents have bought them skates, but
> thoughtfully left out the protection.
>
> Alan
Yes - I thought as I was writing my comment that what I was saying about indoor rinks
only applied to adult nights. I've experienced many a maniac kid as you indicate; they
indeed can be hazardous!
Brad
Senate Kevin
Steve, you pretty much took the words out of my mouth. You guys should
just quit going around in circles with this helmet crap. Quit preaching
"Wear a Helmet" Let people Learn for themselves. I personally have
never once hit my head, knock on wood, but I don't know anyone that has
hit their head, and I've never seen anyone with brain damage from
hitting their head. I'm not saying this doesn't exisit, but why look
like a friggen idiot for the Slim to hardly none chance that you will
hit your head. I'll take my chances without...
Steve Manifold wrote:
>
> Amber Robinson wrote:
> >
> > Minji,
> >
> > Minji Park <mp...@acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote:
> >
> > >I've been blading for several years now and have never fallen on my head
> > >as well.
> >
> > The only safety equipment I found useful are wrist braces,
> > to
> > >protect my wrists from the abuse when I'm breaking a fall onto my butt.
> >
> > >My butt can take the abuse when I fall, but I have never needed to use
> > >knee pads and such. I don't know about elbow pads though.
> >
> > Are you sure you haven't fallen on your head before ??
>
Kent
Senate Kevin wrote:
>just quit going around in circles with this helmet crap. Quit preaching
>"Wear a Helmet" Let people Learn for themselves.
I don't hear a lot of preaching, I hear a lot of people expressing why they
personally think it's a good idea. I haven't heard one reason why it's
*not* a good idea.
>Steve Manifold wrote:
>> vest when I'm in certain parts of town. What about you? Do you wear
your
>> helmet when driving? In the shower? At the golf course? Why not?
Well, since you asked: when driving, I wear a seatbelt to prevent being
thrown from the vehicle in case of an accident (I imagine that's how most
head injuries occur); when showering, I'm not going 10-20 mph and there are
no rocks, dogs, other skaters or children to contend with; and if I golfed,
I'm sure the nicely groomed greens would be a much softer landing than
asphalt or concrete.
My driving has improved to the point that I'm very unlikely to *cause* an
accident--but I still wear a seatbelt.
Peace,
Kent
(remove "not.at." from address to reply)
john frie
Senate Kevin wrote:
> Steve, you pretty much took the words out of my mouth. You guys should
> just quit going around in circles with this helmet crap. Quit preaching
> "Wear a Helmet" Let people Learn for themselves. I personally have
> never once hit my head, knock on wood, but I don't know anyone that has
> hit their head, and I've never seen anyone with brain damage from
> hitting their head. I'm not saying this doesn't exisit, but why look
> like a friggen idiot for the Slim to hardly none chance that you will
> hit your head. I'll take my chances without...
>
> Steve Manifold wrote:
These are pretty intellegent commtents Senate Kevin. lol. I guess you probably have
never seen Africa either so that means it must not exist. Your comment about looking
like a "friggen idiot" makes me realize that someone forgot to tell the world that
you are the determining factor of what a fashion statement must be.
Your comment:
" I personally have never once hit my head, knock on wood, but I don't know anyone
that has hit their head, and I've never seen anyone with brain damage"
MORE ASTOUNDING INTELLECT!! I guess you probably have never seen Africa either so
that means it must not exist.
AMAZING
> >
> > Amber Robinson wrote:
> > >
> > > Minji,
> > >
> > > Minji Park <mp...@acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I've been blading for several years now and have never fallen on my head
> > > >as well.
> > >
> > > The only safety equipment I found useful are wrist braces,
> > > to
> > > >protect my wrists from the abuse when I'm breaking a fall onto my butt.
> > >
> > > >My butt can take the abuse when I fall, but I have never needed to use
> > > >knee pads and such. I don't know about elbow pads though.
> > >
> > > Are you sure you haven't fallen on your head before ??
> >
> > Don't any of you people believe your skating can improve to the point that the
> > chances of sustaining a head injury are about the same as any other
> > unfortunate accident that might happen? Like several others that have
> > posted, I fell down a bit at first (yet never on my head), but now I don't even
> > fall down when run into during a hockey game. I wear a helmet during
> > hockey, but more for keeping sticks and pucks out of my face than because I'm
> > afraid I'm going to crack my skull, and if I'm skating around outside I never
> > do. I also don't wear a helmet when driving in spite of the fact that the vast
> > majority of head injuries occur in car accidents, and I don't wear a bullet proof
> > vest when I'm in certain parts of town. What about you? Do you wear your
> > helmet when driving? In the shower? At the golf course? Why not?
> >
> > Steve
The above from Steve re: the shower and golf course etc. fall into the catagory of
some of the most LOOSER comments I've ever heard. I't's unfortunate when you open
your mouth and nothing comes out but when you have the time to think and review during
and after typing and still nothing comes out that's pathetique.
Bob Cardone
john frie <jf...@erols.com> wrote:
>
>
>Senate Kevin wrote:
>
>> Steve, you pretty much took the words out of my mouth. You guys should
>> just quit going around in circles with this helmet crap. Quit preaching
>> "Wear a Helmet" Let people Learn for themselves. I personally have
>> never once hit my head, knock on wood, .
I assume that when you say " Knock on Wood" , you are referring to
your head!
Bob Cardone
Most Crashes are caused by Pilot Error
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moonkids
>>> Steve, you pretty much took the words out of my mouth. You guys should
>>> just quit going around in circles with this helmet crap. Quit preaching
>>> "Wear a Helmet" Let people Learn for themselves. I personally have
>>> never once hit my head, knock on wood, .
right. whenever i have fallen i automatically raise my head to avoid
surface-to-head impact.
personally, i dont wear a helmet because
A. i have never hit my head while skating.
B. i find the helmet excessive and uncomfortable.
Paul Karazija, MD
On Thu, 7 May 1998 01:11:04 -0400, "moonkids" <qua...@idirect.com>
wrote:
I always wear a Cooper hockey helmet when in-line skating. Admittedly
it may look lame, but I've gone down twice playing ice hockey both
times hitting the back of my helmet on the ice once resulting in a
minor concussion. I have never hit my head on the concrete in-line
skating but I'm not willing to take that chance. As a physician I
have seen people admitted with head injuries from in-line skating.
Also, I really would only trust an official ice hockey helmet from
CCM, Cooper, JOFA, or Bauer for protection.
P
Alan Hawrylyshen
Matt Pickering <ma...@gte.net> writes:
> Helmets are required in short track speed skating. I do see kids from time to
> time at my rink wearing a helmet. In the specialized inline disciplines such as
> artistic, skaters have developed themselves to the point that they know their
> limits. In speed, it isn't a question, you don't step on the rink without the
> helmet.
An excellent policy.
>
> In Canada, helmets are required by all cyclists and skaters outdoors. It's not a
> choice there anymore, its the law.
Not true. Helmet laws for bicycles and inline skating are municipal by-laws.
This means that it is a local (city hall) level decision. Here in Vancouver,
cyclists on public motorways are required to wear helmet, in-line skaters are
not. (I wish they were).
As a volunteer with the National Skate Patrol (affiliated with IISA), I
spend a lot of time every weekend fixing up skaters that have road rash,
light sprains and sometimes broken bones. The NSP members always wear
full gear. I wasn't too keen on this until I got used to it. At first,
I would only wear the gear when patrolling, eventually I started wearing
it when I was commuting or rec-skating.
Last summer (August) I was struck by a cyclist while commuting over 2km bridge
deck. End result: Destroyed helmet, elbow pads, badly damaged knee pads, 1
broken wrist guard, fractured left femur and ruptured femoral artery. However;
not a single scratch. No road rash, no concussion, everything else OK. Took
some serious hardware and surgery to put humpy back together. There is no
question in anyones' mind: The gear fully saved my life in a freak accident.
Nine months later, and I'm lucky enough to be out skating and teaching again
instead of being dead or physically confined for the remainder of my days.
It's cheap, it's safe, and yes, it _is_ cool.
Skate Safe. Skate Legal. Skate Alert. Skate Polite. (SLAP)
Just wear it.
...Alan
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Matt Pickering
> Not true. Helmet laws for bicycles and inline skating are municipal by-laws.
> This means that it is a local (city hall) level decision. Here in Vancouver,
> cyclists on public motorways are required to wear helmet, in-line skaters are
> not. (I wish they were).
Where I am from (Southern Ontario), the bylaws required a helmet for all cyclists and
was later amended to include skaters under 18 years of age. Sorry for my error.
However, Canada is going the direction with helmets the way they have with seatbelts.
I think its a good thing, although a lot of people have complained.
Matt
Your name
Are ice hockey helmets superior to helmets designed for inline skating? I
notice that Bell (maker of motorcycle helmets among others) has helmets
designed for inline skating. I am concerned that ice hockey helmets may
not have the same abrasion resistence as a helmet designed for inline
skating. Ice hockey helmets come into contact with a relatively smooth
surface (ice) -- not concrete/asphalt.
brin...@idt.net
In article <aok97xen3u.fsf@sun6k.>,
ahawry...@mail.h-a-c.com (Alan Hawrylyshen) wrote:
> Just wear it.
I'm a 32 year old knock-kneed beginner. I always wear complete gear. I'm
not a gear evangelist, it's just my way of skating.
When I was in my teens I skateboarded some. Once, I started down a hill that
was much too big for me to handle, though I didn't know this until it was too
late. As I was rapidly speeding up and going out of control, I would have
gladly taken the few minutes to put on full protective gear. Unfortunately,
there just wasn't that much time available before I went sprawling on the
pavement. <30 stitches, three broken teeth, one broken wrist>.
I apply this lesson to skating. The time to wish you had your gear on is
before you start skating, rather than when falling head first to the pavement
at forty miles an hour. This grants one a convenient opportunity to gear up.
I'd rather wear twelve unneeded helmets than spend a half day sitting in an
emergency room.
Brian
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Paul Karazija, MD
>Are ice hockey helmets superior to helmets designed for inline skating? I
>notice that Bell (maker of motorcycle helmets among others) has helmets
>designed for inline skating. I am concerned that ice hockey helmets may
>not have the same abrasion resistence as a helmet designed for inline
>skating. Ice hockey helmets come into contact with a relatively smooth
>surface (ice) -- not concrete/asphalt.
>
Ice Hockey helmets are designed to absorb significant force. In an
in-line league I was in, one of the players was wearing a recreational
in-line type helmet (of unknown brand). He was hit by the puck in the
helmet causing it to literally split in half. I've been hit in the
side of the head with a slapshot by an ice-hockey puck and other than
the loud sound, and jerking my head to the side , I felt nothing. I
am not familiar with abrasion resistance but I would bet any money the
ice hockey helmet is safer as far as absorbing the force of contact
with the ground is concerned.
P
ed tostanoski
Seriously though, are there helmets made specifically for skating or will aa bike helmit will work, but if you aggro get a pro-tec or other skating helmet. if you want, some freestyle biking helmets provide MUCH more protection, but wearing a full-face while skating looks really stupid.
bicycle helmet work?
ed tostanoski
what about aggro?
have you forgotten about vert ramps and flips, which you will probably not try while
a beginner, but will be able to when advanced?
ed tostanoski
Alan Hawrylyshen
brin...@idt.net writes:
> In article <aok97xen3u.fsf@sun6k.>,
> ahawry...@mail.h-a-c.com (Alan Hawrylyshen) wrote:
> > Just wear it.
>
> I'm a 32 year old knock-kneed beginner. I always wear complete gear. I'm
> not a gear evangelist, it's just my way of skating.
>
> pavement. <30 stitches, three broken teeth, one broken wrist>.
>
> I'd rather wear twelve unneeded helmets than spend a half day sitting in an
> emergency room.
Well said!
..Or 100+ stitches, 6 units of blood, 2 weeks in the hospital and a
month off work. Hmm, that 30$ helmet & pads sure look like a bargain.
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Amber Robinson
ka...@black-hole.com (Paul Karazija, MD) wrote:
Hi,
>On Thu, 7 May 1998 01:11:04 -0400, "moonkids"
>I always wear a Cooper hockey helmet when in-line skating. Admittedly
>it may look lame, but I've gone down twice playing ice hockey both
>times hitting the back of my helmet on the ice once resulting in a
>minor concussion. I have never hit my head on the concrete in-line
>skating but I'm not willing to take that chance.
I'm glad to see others agree with wearing a helmet for
Rollerblading. Even though you are more likely to hurt
your wrists than land on your head, it doesn't take much of
a blow to the head to cause significant head injury.
After working in a Trauma center with people who had been
in accidents involving head injuries, I get chills down my
spine when I see people blading or biking without helmets !
As a physician I
>have seen people admitted with head injuries from in-line skating.
>Also, I really would only trust an official ice hockey helmet from
>CCM, Cooper, JOFA, or Bauer for protection.
I wear a Bell V. Pro helmet for blading (I don't play
roller hockey)...
You mention that you are a physician and I am wondering if
you see any serious head injuries from Rollerblading and if
the type of helmet they were wearing makes any difference
to the type or severity of injury ?
Thanks,
Kallum Robinson
Amber Robinson
You guys should
>>>> just quit going around in circles with this helmet crap. Quit preaching
>>>> "Wear a Helmet" Let people Learn for themselves. I personally have
>>>> never once hit my head, knock on wood, .
>
>right. whenever i have fallen i automatically raise my head to avoid
>surface-to-head impact.
This is fine when you are rolling along at 10 kms an hour -
please explain to us how you would apply this skill when
you get hit by a car or bike that comes out of nowhere and
plows into you. Alan of the National Skate Patrol stated
that he was injured badly after being hit by a bike on a
bridge deck...if not for all his equipment, he could have
died or ended up in a wheelchair.
I'm sure that when he was hit, he didn't have any time to
think about "raising his head to avoid surface-to-head
impact"...in fact, I know that it would have been over
before he knew what hit it him !!!
>personally, i dont wear a helmet because
>
>A. i have never hit my head while skating.
>B. i find the helmet excessive and uncomfortable.
Being in a wheelchair, or wearing a spinal brace and halo
for months or years isn't exactly my idea of comfortable
either !
Kallum