K2 -- comfy or YOW! painful ???
freeberg
I'm thinking of getting a pair of K2s but have seen a number of posts
saying that while the K2s seem comfortable at first, they sometimes result
in ankle pain after prolonged use. Is there a general concensus on this?
For those who have used K2s either with or without ankle pains, please
post which model you have used. I was thinking of either the Power X or
the Escape. Thanks for your feedback.
Dick Bell
I skate witht The K2 Power's... the only time I'v had problems was
when I realy tightened the strings down and the straps... It made
my feet knumb after awhile... I now just taunt the strings and use
the straps to tighten the skate... have had no problems... but
I suspect it will be up to each individual as to how they like
the feel... tight, loose or in-between... the Powers are
very adjustable to just about anyone... I like them very much.
freeberg (free...@is.nyu.edu) wrote:
: I'm thinking of getting a pair of K2s but have seen a number of posts
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Richard A. De Liberty
I have K2 Escapes and no ankle problems. Some older K2 skates were not
well-designed for people with big ankles. The ankle cuff was just
straight. But the newer skates all have more room for your ankles.
(Although insufficient ankle space was apparently the reason the K2
Impluse were recalled.) I know the Escapes do not have that problem,
but you should ask your retailer about whatever K2s you're interested in
and you should try them out in the store.
Another message in this thread said something about overtighening the
laces. I suspect that's a bigger problem with the Escapes than with the
Power Xs. When I first got my Escapes, if I really tightened them my
feet would fall right asleep. The SmartFit gel is pretty amazing stuff
and after about a minute the skates really grab onto your feet. I was
worried about it for a while, but lately, not only has the problem gone
away, but I find I can really tighten them up without any discomfort. I
think the boot just needed to loosen up a little.
My only complaint about the Escapes is that they don't provide a lot of
cushening from shock. I skate a lot in the city on pretty bumpy
sidewalk and I sometimes need to put gel foot inserts to keep my feet
from getting fatigue from the vibration. If that might be an issue for
you, consider Technica PS, which are designed to deal with that
problem. I couldn't get them to fit right, but everyone else I know who
has them loves them. But I like the Escapes more and more every day I
wear them.
Richard
ra...@ibm.net
falc...@starnetinc.com
free...@is.nyu.edu (freeberg) wrote:
:For those who have used K2s either with or without ankle pains, please
:post which model you have used. I was thinking of either the Power X or
:the Escape. Thanks for your feedback.
k2 flight76.......without !
Andreas Knoll
Go for a "hard"-boot if you want to skate seriously.
K2's are very comfy at once and look pretty nice (I think these are
the reasons why they all buy them), but the support is bad, especially
after skating them longer and the stand no abuse.(Therefore all
the reports of ankle pain, broken..., "the fit proper in the shop, but
after 2 month they don't fit tough...",...
Maybe K2's( and other softboots) are good for people who only
skates recreational, only a few times a month , and who
don't need much support for the feet.
Or for people who can effort buying a new skate after a few month.
Ciao
Andreas
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Jeff Kohn
Here's another vote in favor of the new K2's. I have the Freedoms, which are
similar to the Escapes but with a lower cut boot. These skates are very
comfortable and supportive at the same time. I agree that you don't want to
over-tighten the laces, especially the ones over the top of your foot. I
found that if I don't get the laces too tight over the top of my foot that I
can really crank down the laces at the top around my ankle, which ensures
that the smart-gel really wraps around my ankle to provide support. BTW
before buying the Freedoms I figured that the smart-gel was just a marketing
gimmick, but after skating in these I can say that it really does work.
As for the durability issue one other poster claimed, I think he is
over-exaggerating and that this won't be an issue for fitness skaters.
Hard-core aggressive skaters might need the durability of a hard-shell boot,
but for fitness skaters who aren't jumping around and grinding the softboot
is durable enough and is much more comfortable. I also think some of the
criticisms that applied to K2 skates in previous years have probably been
addressed in the newer models. K2 RULES!
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moose aus
falc...@starnetinc.com writes: > free...@is.nyu.edu (freeberg) wrote:
>
> :For those who have used K2s either with or without ankle pains, please
> :post which model you have used. I was thinking of either the Power X or
> :the Escape. Thanks for your feedback.
>
> k2 flight76.......without !
>
I'm using K2 Fatty's! Had some ankle trouble but worked it out!
Matt C.
Steven Lindsey
I have a pair of Baur H3's, Rollerblade Bravoblades, and K2 Power extremes.
The K2's are by far the most comfortable, and have held up well to large
amounts of recreational skating, even for 5 or more hours at a time. While
I agree that they are probably not as well suited for aggressive skating, but
they have plenty of support for my needs, though I have good ankles.
falc...@starnetinc.com
Andreas Knoll <akn...@uni-duisburg.de> wrote:
:the reasons why they all buy them), but the support is bad, especially
:after skating them longer and the stand no abuse.(Therefore all
Andreas, you contunue to knock the soft boot ? Have you truthfully
skated in them long enough to make these types of remarks. After
renting three different brands of hard boots and experiencing pain
with each model i decided to go with softboot and the pain was reduced
to almost none. I do admittedly have a high instep which almost
demands a soft boot. I've skated in both, have you ? Be honest.....
Kevin Falconer Hoffman Estates, IL
P.S. I've got about 50 hours on my k2's and they feel like new. I
guess there going to fall off next time out huh ? : )
Kim JooSung
Steven Lindsey (lin...@operators.its.rpi.edu) wrote (translated from eboniX):
: I have a pair of Baur H3's, Rollerblade Bravoblades, and K2 Power extremes.
K2's were my second skates also. I used to skat in a pair of Bauer F3's for a while
then my friend got some fatty's as a gift. I put them on one day and was amazed at
how much they felt like sneakers. In comparison to my old skates, the Baurs feel more
like boots when I wear them since i am so used to the fatty now.
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John Crawford wrote in article <33ce9e18...@news.clark.net>...>
>I'll second the comfort, and I've had a pair of Flight 76's since
>early Spring, using them about 3-4 hours/week. But I've generally
>tried to get the laces as tight as possible on top of the foot - is
>that unnecessary for getting good support? And what is smart-gel?
>TIA.
>
>John C.
I guess what really matters when lacing up is that it's comfortable for you.
I found that if I get the laces too tight across the top of my foot that the
bottom of my foot goes numb. I usually lace up just snug enough that my foot
can't really move around, and then tighten down on the top two or three to
get ankle support.
RE: smart-gel, the new endotech skates (Impulse, Escape, Freedom) have this
gel stuff in the boot in the ankle area that conforms to your foot and then
as you skate it stiffens up to provide support.
Jeff
Richard A. De Liberty
John Crawford wrote:
> that unnecessary for getting good support? And what is smart-gel?
Smart-gel is something K2 uses in their new "Endotech" skates, which
don't have any hard outer frame at all. (Freedoms, Escapes, the
recalled Impulse, and Doc Vashons.) The idea with smart-gel is that
it's soft when cool, but stiffens up when warm, so that it grabs onto
you feet after you've been skating for a couple minutes. It's pretty
amazing: you can feel it making you feet snugger in the boot. I think
K2 says more at their site: www.k2skates.com .
Richard
ra...@ibm.net
Andreas Knoll
falc...@starnetinc.com wrote:
>
> Andreas Knoll <akn...@uni-duisburg.de> wrote:
>
> :the reasons why they all buy them), but the support is bad, especially
> :after skating them longer and the stand no abuse.(Therefore all
>
> Andreas, you contunue to knock the soft boot ?
Yes, I'm possessed by knocking the soft boots :-))
>Have you truthfully
> skated in them long enough to make these types of remarks.
Yes and No, skate them long enough would be a month or so, but i can't
effort renting them a month and I'm not willing to waste my money
by buying them, so I only skated them a few times.
But many friends and skaters I met in skating parks AND at the local
see are disappointed of their softboots.
I also read a lot of reviews and tests.
The overall result is that softboots have less support after a while,
don't take the abuse well and I even know Mike, who get a pulled
ligament(hope that's correct in English) in his K2's.
His medic said that softboots should be forbidden.
And, as I said before, softboots maybe ok for people who skates
only once a week around a see, who ONLY do recreational stuff.
But for advanced skaters ..... :-((
Don't think that I don't like rec-skaters, I started as one 1.5 years
ago and I never thought I would do something else.
But then I started jumping from forwards to backwards, doing
powerslides, tested a little 0.5m jump ramp, skate my first 5
stairs......
And, not all of K2 is bad, they have a good tool, nice clothings(my
girlfriend likes them), twin cams are fine and the advanced recreational
knee pads from k2(those who are divided in two parts) are the best
and comfy recreational pads I know, I always wear them when I skate rec.
But at least, everyone has to make his own decision(and faults)...
>After
> renting three different brands of hard boots and experiencing pain
> with each model i decided to go with softboot and the pain was reduced
> to almost none. I do admittedly have a high instep which almost
> demands a soft boot. I've skated in both, have you ? Be honest.....
>
> Kevin Falconer Hoffman Estates, IL
>
> P.S. I've got about 50 hours on my k2's and they feel like new. I
> guess there going to fall off next time out huh ? : )
No, 50 hours are really not much, but after let's say additional 50
hours you will be able to realize the loss of support, if you're
honest. .-))
But if you ONLY do rec-stuff, they maybe o.k. for you.
As a special I copy two of the articles of this weekend:
1.
>Yup, I join the complaints w/ the K2s. I just got
>the Impulse, the all cloth style that just came
>out. In the store I didn't feel any ankle pain,
>but at home, w/ much thinner socks, my left
>inner ankle hurt immediately and a lot. I just
>tried them in the kitchen (linoleum) so I hope
>I can return them. One of the hooks is just
>on my ankle bone, and that is what hurts the
>most. The all cloth boot is re-inforced from the
>inside, that's is what makes them so hard to
>bones. IMHO.
>They are great looking and light, so it won't
>be easy to return them. Hope they improve them
>soon. In the meantime, I'll stay w/ my ancient
>rollerblades
>
>- erika
>"Ulf Eriksson" <ulf.er...@mbox312.swipnet.se> wrote:
>>Hi,
>>I have similiar problems with my K2 Power Extreme 5.0. They felt >really
>>good in the store, but started to hurt my inner ankle bones after >about 2
>>days ( 4Hours ).
>
>>It took about 2 weeks for the pain to go away and I've tried to skate >in
>>them again, but no thanks - still hurts.
2.
>>Also, since I am going to be getting the Fattys,
>
>NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>Please don't!!!!
>
>K2 screwed me once and i will not let it happen again...It was the day
>before ASA when the K2 frame CRACKED in HALF!!!!!! I missed ASA for >damn
>K2!!! NEVER buy them
>
>
>
>Kev
>http://members.aol.com/excell976/inline.html
So long
Morten Nicolaj Pedersen
I used K2 Flights without ANY problems. I love those skates!
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Eduard Leinwand
i do this with k2 exotech softboots, they are great !!! no problem !
eri...@xpacbell.net
I had posted a few days ago, telling about my ankle bone
pain. I took the skates back to the store, they applied
heat w/ a blow dryer and worked the area where my ankle
bone hurt. That fixed the problem! Have used them for
4 hrs (2 1.5 hr sessions and one 1 hr session w/o a problem.
I heard that the Impulse was recalled because they were
too tight at the ankles. I have an Impulse, but I'm fine now.
Don't know how long they will last, but I find them more
comfortable and lighter than the rollerblades I had.
I'll keep you posted if the support dissapears over time.
- erika
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In the store, when i bought them, they felt like a perfect fit, very comfortable, very tight. Then i went out with my kids and soon i started feeling pain on the outer parts of my feet, from the toe towards the middle of the foot. I have tried to "break in"them but still, after a short run, although they still feel comfortable when i put them on, my feet go numb, and pain reappears.
They realy put me off skating after a while. That happened like 2 years ago.
Recently i felt like getting back to skating so i have started to wear them in the house when working at the PC. The numb feeling is still there when i try to move around. However, when standing still on them, left boot is ok while in the right boot i have a small pain above ankle, towards the outside, pain that i can also feel when i press my finger on the bone, while inside the boot, there is a pain on the inside, on the big knuckle where the big toe binds to the foot.
The pain around bones are ok. You can take it, but the feeling of numbness around your feet are realy ruining my skating experience.
Went to sell them on SH market and everyone else who was selling same model as mine were saying they took them out 2-3 times, 3-4 times. Yeah right! They felt this and quit skating. One was asking price as if they were new, one was asking a price that was 1/3 of regular price, although they were like new. None of the skates on the market were superused like they had big fun in their life.
I am looking forward to buying some
SEBA FR1 80 or
POWERSLIDE KAZE 80 (so far this looks like perfect for me, but if not, ill take a seba) - trinity mount looks like a winner.
Other skates that really caught my attention during my recent searches:
Flying Eagle Drift
Fila NRK NOS (these look awesome, but there are no reviews on them, no info, no hype, no love, nothing) They look like SEBA iGor almost but at half of the price ,but they are unknown)
More expensive stuff:
Powerslide Hardcore EVO 2.0 - awesome build, awesome reviews, awesome everything
Powerslide TAU - top model from Powerslide.
ADAPT HYPERSKATE GTO - handmade, superslick, super strong - best looking skates i have seen. These are very expensive,but they somehow look like a good collectible item.
Anyway from all the skates i've looked at these days, i would pick Powerslide Kaze, because the boot feels less bulkier than Seba FR1 80. However, if they do not fit me well, i will take SEBA FR1 80, black with yellow custom kit and yellow luminous wheels and start skating at night.
Gary R. Schmidt
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buy them at doesn't try hard to make you try every different skate, or
give you time to really feel them out, you can end up with the wrong pair.
When I started skating, (on the white ice back in the early 1970s), I
just dealt with the discomfort of boots that were tight, my first three
or four pairs were second-hand, there was no way my family could afford
brand new skates then, and in Australia in those days there wasn't a
great deal of choice!
With very wide feet, I just got used to them being squashed by my
skates, even when I could afford to purchase new, they weren't much better.
Fast-forward to the 1990s, still skating and I decide to get a set of
in-lines, choosing the Rollerblade Aeroblades as being just what I want,
not knowing that they were probably the narrowest boot in existence, but
I just skated.
Now I have a pair of SEBA GT-90s that I use for beach cruising, and a
pair of SEBA High Lights that I use for Slalom and refereeing Roller
Derby. The GT-90s are more comfortable than the High Lights, which are
just a bit too tight across the widest part of my left foot, but I don't
wear them for hour after hour, like I do the GT-90s.
The FR-1s are a Slalom/Freestyle/Dance skate, they are definitely going
to be on the chunky side, but that is all part of Seb's style, and to be
expected.
The Powerslides are nice boots, a few of my friends have them with 110mm
wheels, just so they can go faster :-)
The secret, IMNSHO, to buying skates is to try on every pair in the
shop, even the ones you know you won't buy, and spend as long as
possible moving around with them on so you get a real feel for them.
We may be lucky here in Melbourne, the two remaining skate shops both
value customer service over quick sales, and are very happy to have
customers spend all morning/afternoon/day deciding on their skates, but
you may not have that luxury.
Whatever you choose, I hope you get to enjoy skating lots!
Cheers,
Gary B-)
P.S. I still have the Aeros, and a pair of Roces LAX', and ...
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