>what kind of oil should I use when I clean my bearings? Is normal sunflower
>oil good? What about olive oil?
Hehe. Baby oil?
>what I'd like to know is if oil and gel you buy at the store are actually
>better than plain oil?
>Its the 1st time i clean by bearings..is there anything else i should know
>before its too late?
>thanks
Others probably will tell you for sure. Yes, you need a certain
type of oil. Maybe grease. My guess would be some bearing grease.
When I get to that point, I will research it. If you are in a
hurry, you can do a search on Google for "bearing grease" or
"bearing oil" or "bearing lubricate" in this group
"rec.sport.skating.inline". Good luck.
:o)
LShaping
Bret McCormack wrote:
> I would use the Olive oil,it cetainly brings out the flavour in the
> bearing much better than sunflower oil.
I agree with that, it tastes alot better when you lick the dirt out of
your bearings....
Greetings,
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Why would you expect cooking oil to be appropriate for mechanical items?
They would work but would also spoil.
Mineral based oils (and greases) are mixed to have appropriate properties to
lubricate mechanical parts that rub or roll. Skate bearings are not very
heavily loaded but they do have rolling and sliding parts that need to be
protected.
> what I'd like to know is if oil and gel you buy at the store are actually
> better than plain oil?
Gels and greases will require you to maintain your bearings less often.
Oils, gels, and greases that are designed for bearing use will also usually
have some rust inhibiting compounds in them.
> Its the 1st time i clean by bearings..is there anything else i should know
> before its too late?
I would assume that you know how to take them out of the wheel and open them
up, but we have had questions here that thought that you just dunked the
whole assembly in solvent to clean them.
sure, i've opened them up
i've also read many old threads
but i'm not convinced as to what would be better for my bearings....mineral
oils?, sewing machine oil ? and all those others mentioned...
could anyone tell me what's the best ? (price / length of time / against
rust , etc)
Hello,
I use normal 3 in 1 oil. It's light and wont slow down your bearings.
When you clean you bearings use a drop or two of oil on them.
M. Prindle
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>
> oils?, sewing machine oil ? and all those others mentioned...
A thin oil like sewing machine oil works fine on skate bearings.
Peter van der Sluis
Pijnacker, The Netherlands
How many miles do you go between oiling them?
Bob
Step 1: Take out the bearings and wipe off any dirt with a lint free
cloth (kitchen towel or an old shammy).
2: Place them in a small container (if you only have 16 bearings they
fit in a normal sized tabacco tin). Now spray them with GT85 (or any
spray lubricant with teflon). Spray them until they are COMPLETY
SUBMERGED and then give the tin a gentle shake. Now leave the tin with
the bearings in it overnight.
3: Now take the bearings out (look at the grime thats come out) and put
them on a couple of pieces of tissue paper (put newspaper under it so
the carpet does not get oil on it). Let them dry for about 5-10 mins.
4: This next bit depends on the type of bearings that you have.
a) If they are all metal drip some bearing oil (from a skate shop cost
about £3-4) into them. Spin the bearing a few times then put them back
in your wheels and your off.
b) If they have removable rubber shields then 'CAREFULLY' take one out
with a sharp knife, drip the oil, 2-3 drops, straight into the bearing.
Spin it a few times then put the shield back in. Spin them once more
then put them back in you wheels.
5: If you are not going to go skating straight away then spin you
wheels a few times so that the oil does not settle at the bottom of the
bearing.
Ps: Do this outside if you can the GT85 does not make a good air
freshener!!!
I hope that this helps. If you need any more info then e-mail me.
You wouldn't want olive oil, at least not the usual cooking sort; it
contains solid particles. As to other (clear) vegetable oils, I don't
know.
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Not real sure. I have had the skates for about 8 months now and I have
cleaned them once to get the orginal grease out of them. I havnt
cleaned them since. I'm guessing they have around 100 miles so far on
them. It's to hot to skate during the summer down here in Houston so
I'll prob start back up during the fall.
My normal skating is on dry ground.
You want citrus based so it dries off for the most part and you wipe off most
excess oil too. Oil provides a thin sheen of lube otherwise it attracts dust
and defeats the purpose. You want it inside the bearing case only not on the
outside. A drop or two is plenty don't soak them and they should not drip oil
when done.
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I found that cleaning bearings is very important as well.
I take everything apart, ie. shields, c-rings.
And put them in a small sealed container of mineral spirits.
I gently shake the container and let them soak for a little while.
I put the main part of the bearing into a larger container of mineral
spirits,
and shake this a well.
I don't use the same containers because the c-rings will get bent.
After about a hour of soaking, I "spin" the bearings while they are
submerged in mineral spirits, to get the rest of the grit out.
I keep doing this until they are quiet and freely movable.
I then lay out all of the parts on paper towels and let them air dry.
After that, I either lube them, or resoak them in citrus cleaner.
I like resoaking them, but if I'm in a hurry, then I just lube them.
I keep only one shield on my bearings, so when lubing,
I first reassemble the bearings.
Then place no more then 2 drops of WD-40 3-in-1 oil
on the open side of the bearings.
Then I spin them to let the oil disperse among the balls.
This is a ONE by ONE process!!!
Please note, if any of you think that I do this wrong,
then please don't chew me out over the news group.
This is the way I do things, and it may be different that you.
If you have any suggestions then feel free to reply.
I hope this helps.
Denny Metcalf
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"Denny Metcalf" <denn...@home.com> wrote in message
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Marie, almost certainly your bearings are rusted (they got wet on the inside
from the rain). They will never be like new again, and if they ever lock-up on
you, could injure you. Rust has pitted both the balls and the raceways which
the balls ride in. You need another set of bearings. I recommend ABEC 3
bearings for three reasons. They are usually greased which will break in over
time, and grease keeps out water better than oil, and you are a beginner and
don't yet really need higher rated bearings which will also cost more.
Denny Metcalf wrote:
>
> I can usually go about 300 miles before my next cleaning.
> For me, that's about every week.
>
you skate 300 miles every week!? what are you trying to do? (kill
yourself...) do you commute to work on your skates everyday or something?
curious,
heather
JFordOrl wrote:
> >the other day i got caught by rain 10 mins from home and i checked my
> >bearings but it seems they are only dirty on the outside (i don't see any
> >dirt inside). But since then, i feel they don't run as smoothly and make
> >noise.
>
> Marie, almost certainly your bearings are rusted (they got wet on the inside
> from the rain). They will never be like new again, and if they ever lock-up on
No, just put some Anti-Rost-Stuff in there for a few minutes, then clean
them.
After a few miles they will be as news.
> you, could injure you. Rust has pitted both the balls and the raceways which
> the balls ride in. You need another set of bearings. I recommend ABEC 3
New bearings are unneeded. You do sound like someone selling them....
My bearings have rusted some times, I even had to force them free with
pliers after using Caramba (anti-Rost).
No Problem at all after 4000km.
> bearings for three reasons. They are usually greased which will break in over
> time, and grease keeps out water better than oil, and you are a beginner and
But if water penetrates the bearings and you are using grease, it will
mix up to something you really want to have in your bearings. ->
cleaning time.
> don't yet really need higher rated bearings which will also cost more.
ABEC telly you nothing about bearings, the manufacturer counts.
Bye,
Greased bearings, just dry them off.. and you are finished.
Take your choice
Bob
>New bearings are unneeded. You do sound like someone selling them....
>My bearings have rusted some times, I even had to force them free with
>pliers after using Caramba (anti-Rost).
>No Problem at all after 4000km.
Once they are rusted, they are pitted and they are junk and will not
roll correctly.
Bob
"JFordOrl" <jfor...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I speed skate, so I put a lot of miles on per week.
I love speed skating.
:)
I feel loved :)
At least someone out there cares for my health, lolz.
Denny Metcalf
"heather halvorson" <nothe...@home.com> wrote in message
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I use K2s and I know what kind of bearings they put in them.
Light rain for 10 minutes won't hurt it.
Twincam bearings are high quality.
They are greased, and have good seals on them.
Plus, they are new, 3 months old.
Unless Miss Marie went puddle crossing,
very little water would go into them.
My theory is, is that when you put the bearings back on
you wheels, they did not go on precise enough.
The bearings must be pushed back into the wheel firmly.
So that the bearings are aligned.
Also, she may have put the axles on to tight.
thus, friction occurs.
And if they are to tight, then the seals get bent, and rub the balls.
Once this occurs, you are screwed, unless you remove your shields.
However, some moisture may have gotten into the bearing.
But very little because of the grease.
Twincam is known for it's high quality.
Though they are not water proof, they have good grease.
To be on the safe side.
I think that you should try my method of cleaning.
To insure that you get out all of the moisture if there is any.
The grease has rust inhibitors, so I doubt there is any rust.
I like 3 in 1 oil.
It takes me about 2 - 3 hours using my process.
But I like them clean.
I skate about 300 miles a week on the street.
I speed skate so I like smooth bearings.
Oh, by the way.
I spin my bearings under mineral spirits to try and free
any grit that is jammed between the balls.
You may have some grit stuck as well.
Symptoms are noise, added friction, and less free spin.
As for putting iol in without cleaning them,
They may look clean, but you can't see everything.
Also, if you plan on skating in the rain again,
I probably wouldn't use 3 in 1 oil.
Unless you clean them right after the rain.
Hope this helps,
Denny Metcalf
Please e-mail you results, since I won't have access to
this newsgroup for 3 more weeks starting today.
I am going on a vacation.
My e-mail is: denn...@home.com
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> Once they are rusted, they are pitted and they are junk and will not
> roll correctly.
Marie: The truth is between these two.
Rust will pit the balls and races but you may be able to clean them (even
without a rust remover) to where they work well enough for normal use.
Considering how cheap bearings can be for normal use, you have to look at
the time vs. just tossing them out and buying new ones.
I've skated on bearings which locked up after getting wet and I broke
free, without any cleaning. They locked up again after I stopped
skating, and I broke them free again and skated some more. I don't
recommend this, though; I just didn't want to go through the trouble
of replacing them when I was getting new skates anyway.
If lock-up happened while the skate was moving, you'd not have the
same disaster as with machinery, but it wouldn't be fun, that's
certain.
If the grease looks like it is in good condition, you probably don't have
rust. Some grit may have snuck into the bearing past the shield. If that
is the case, all you need to do is clean them and put in a new lubricant.
There are more methods to clean them than there are people doing it. Most
of them work. Since your bearings have grease in them, you will need to
start with a solvent to clean it out.
When you relube them you need to decide what to use.
Grease protects from rust and needs the least maintenance. It will roll
slower to start with but will free up after a while.
Oil is the other extreme. It is the most free rolling right from the
start. However, your 10 minutes in light rain may have ended up with rusty
bearings and you need to re-oil them frequently.
Gels are in between. They don't protect quite as well as grease but
roll easily right away.
That's why I use gel or grease. I don't like doing maintenance on the
bearings.
> Please note, if any of you think that I do this wrong,
> then please don't chew me out over the news group.
> This is the way I do things, and it may be different that you.
> If you have any suggestions then feel free to reply.
It work and that's what counts. There are many variations but all the good
ones involve using something to remove the old lubricant, moving the
bearings to dislodge the crud that is hiding between the balls and the cage,
and drying them.
I don't bother to remove the 2nd shield, but I also do a wash with soapy
water to remove the solvent, do my spinning under running water to flush
things out, and dry them with denatured alcohol. Probably about even as far
as time goes but my method needs to have running water available with no
need for a 2nd container.
> > How many miles do you go between oiling them?
> Not real sure. I have had the skates for about 8 months now and I have
> cleaned them once to get the orginal grease out of them. I havnt
> cleaned them since. I'm guessing they have around 100 miles so far on
> them. It's to hot to skate during the summer down here in Houston so
> I'll prob start back up during the fall.
>
> My normal skating is on dry ground.
Doesn't say much for longevity under normal use. 100 miles in 8 months?
I know that the skate clubs in Dallas and Houston are skating regularly
right now. The temperature here in Minneapolis is slightly lower but the
humidity brings the effect up to the 100-110 degree range wich hasn't slowed
the local skaters much.
If you want a contact for the local Houston club, I can send you information
on their skates.
> Gels are in between. They don't protect quite as well as grease but
>roll easily right away.
>
I bought some Gel today at Galyans. I am going to try it and see how
it compares to lithium grease. I have a feeling that the grease will
last longer than the Gel.
Bob
Yo Bob,
What flavor gel did you get? I tried out some Sonic Blue stuff, I
liked the applicator, but havent had enough time on my skates to make
any comparison or comment on its performance as yet. Just wondering on
all the types or brands out there.
Chuck
Bob
Regarding gels: I used to use the Kryptonics Speed Gel, but they no longer
sell it by itself (you have to buy the bearing cleaner kit which includes the
gel - all at more cost BTW). I now have some Racetec 'Techcream' which I am
going to try out. It is a synthetic moly-based lube. Anyone tried it yet? If
not, I will post my experience with it later!
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A number of friends have bought them and all like them. Most of the new to
5 wheel people seem to be keeping the brake installed.
I also know a couple of people who have Salomon TR8s and 9s with 5 wheel
frames installed.
I think that we will see a lot more high end fitness skates with 5 wheels in
the future. These seem to the skate of the year for experienced fitness
skaters who are getting new skates.
The larger local stores carried the 5 wheel fitness skates but weren't
believers enough to buy a good variety of sizes. People have reported that
the selection is pretty skimpy.
One was surprised how little the feel changed from his K2 Kinetics. The
roll easier but the long frame of the Kinetic made the transition easier.
As a side note, I noticed recently that the frame on the Mod 8s are slightly
shorter than the Kinetics. I didn't check if 82mm wheels will fit on them
like they do on my Kinetics.
I have some Sonic "Super Gel" which appears to be very similar to the
Kryptonics. It has been working well for me until a rain storm hit while on
a night skate. The bearings went into a container with lamp oil about 3
hours later and survived well. I am about to put some more in so I can use
them today.
> It work and that's what counts. There are many variations but all the good
> ones involve using something to remove the old lubricant, moving the
> bearings to dislodge the crud that is hiding between the balls and the cage,
> and drying them.
A good job for WD-40. Then a rinse and relube.
> > It's too hot to skate during the summer down here in Houston so
> > I'll prob start back up during the fall.
Sure is. But then there is the seven months of great outdoor weather :o)
> I know that the skate clubs in Dallas and Houston are skating regularly
> right now. The temperature here in Minneapolis is slightly lower but the
> humidity brings the effect up to the 100-110 degree range wich hasn't slowed
> the local skaters much.
Wow, what a bunch of tough guys.
> The temperature here in Minneapolis is slightly lower <snip>
Minneapolis, monthly average high/low temperatures June thru August.
79/58 84/63 81/60
Houston ...
90/71 93/72 92/72
I wish it were as cool (as Minneapolis, or Houston even!) where I
live. But I am keeping an eye on the forcast, hehe. Wont be long.
Then I can scorn northerners for not skating on the icy roads. Yes,
it will be funner.
Just a thought...
Why did you put "OT" when it's not an OT question at all :)?
>Minneapolis, monthly average high/low temperatures June thru August.
>79/58 84/63 81/60
>Houston ...
>90/71 93/72 92/72
>I wish it were as cool (as Minneapolis, or Houston even!) where I
>live. But I am keeping an eye on the forcast, hehe. Wont be long.
>Then I can scorn northerners for not skating on the icy roads. Yes,
>it will be funner.
Funny thing... In Dallas our monthly average high/low temperatures June thru
August.
91/70 96/74 101/77
Houston ...
90/71 93/72 92/72
Looks like we are a bit hotter and we still are having 30-50 people skating
every Tuesday and Thursday nites... plus training on the weekends. I guess
heat doesn't stop us in Dallas. Our group ranges in age from 18 to 70 with
most in the 30-40 age range... hmmm...
to respond.... please remove my wheels.... :-)
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If it is personal, it should be sent through e-mail...
Don't think that's an OT question because it's related to skating... Just a
thought.
Ken
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Since WHEN did I flame you for posting an OT post? I'm not being critical
I'm just wondering why you did it because it wasn't an OT question.
NHL is ICE HOCKEY, not INLINE SKATING, get it straight. That was an OT
question because it wasn't directly related to inline skating. You asked for
information on a pair of INLINE SKATES that's why it's not OT.
Ken
As with a lot of people, you need to remove extra text that has been
inserted into my return address that shows up on the messages. It is in all
caps so that it is obvious to a human but not necessarily to spam bots that
harvest addresses for the spammers.
> I figured that a lot of people were wondering
> about the K2 Mod 10s so I would just post it.
I would consider that to be a perfectly on topic post for this group.
> Why must you be so critical.
Because it is Ken's way of life. Of all people, he should be one of the
last to complain of other's posting habits but he likes the double standard.
Sure, it was you all arrogant posters that STARTED to blame people for how
to post messages when I've never encountered such problems in other
newsgroups. Name calling doesn't get you anywhere. I wasn't being critical
as he said I'm just wondering why a skate post would be called an "OT" post
that's it, nothing more.
You do like name calling don't you? Tell you what, you don't own skating
just because you're a skating club's president or whatever, I don't care. It
doesn't give you the rights to say something you don't know about, like
aggressive skating. You never responded to my message on that particular
thread because you can't back up what you said.
"Just a thought..."
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>In article <72000ee7.01082...@posting.google.com>,
>mseu...@yahoo.com (LShaping) writes:
>
>>Minneapolis, monthly average high/low temperatures June thru August.
>>79/58 84/63 81/60
>>Houston ...
>>90/71 93/72 92/72
>>I wish it were as cool (as Minneapolis, or Houston even!) where I
>>live. But I am keeping an eye on the forcast, hehe. Wont be long.
>>Then I can scorn northerners for not skating on the icy roads. Yes,
>>it will be funner.
>
>Funny thing...
Funny and nonsense too.
>In Dallas our monthly average high/low temperatures June thru
>August.
>91/70 96/74 101/77
Wrong. The average highs are these.
91.9 96.5 96.2
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/fwd/CLIMO/dfw/normals/dfwann.html
>Houston ...
>90/71 93/72 92/72
>Looks like we are a bit hotter and we still are having 30-50 people skating
>every Tuesday and Thursday nites... plus training on the weekends. I guess
>heat doesn't stop us in Dallas. Our group ranges in age from 18 to 70 with
>most in the 30-40 age range... hmmm...
I like those ellipses... Might want to get the facts straight
though... Maybe the 30-50 people skating is actually 2-3? Not
that it matters... Not sure what the point is... This is sort of
like sending a telegram... Don't you think...
:o)
>>>Minneapolis, monthly average high/low temperatures June thru August.
>>>79/58 84/63 81/60
>>>Houston ...
>>>90/71 93/72 92/72
>>>I wish it were as cool (as Minneapolis, or Houston even!) where I
>>>live. But I am keeping an eye on the forcast, hehe. Wont be long.
>>>Then I can scorn northerners for not skating on the icy roads. Yes,
>>>it will be funner.
>>
>>Funny thing...
>
>Funny and nonsense too.
Even with the figures that you just posted, Dallas is still hotter than
Houston!!!!
>
>>In Dallas our monthly average high/low temperatures June thru
>>August.
>>91/70 96/74 101/77
>
>Wrong. The average highs are these.
>91.9 96.5 96.2
>http://www.srh.noaa.gov/fwd/CLIMO/dfw/normals/dfwann.html
Yep, They still look hotter :-)
>
>>Houston ...
>>90/71 93/72 92/72
>>Looks like we are a bit hotter and we still are having 30-50 people skating
>>every Tuesday and Thursday nites... plus training on the weekends. I guess
>>heat doesn't stop us in Dallas. Our group ranges in age from 18 to 70 with
>>most in the 30-40 age range... hmmm...
>
>I like those ellipses... Might want to get the facts straight
>though... Maybe the 30-50 people skating is actually 2-3? Not
>that it matters... Not sure what the point is... This is sort of
>like sending a telegram... Don't you think
No, it was 30-50 people with our average being 40 every Tuesday Nite. There
were over 5000 cyclists at the Hotter n' Hell Hundred with 20 skaters from
Dallas on the 25 mile course, the heat didn't stop any of them.
And the point was deal with the heat if you live in Texas and skate, if you
don't get out in the heat then your body will never acclimatize to it.
You really should come up to Dallas sometime and skate with us, especially
since it is getting cooler :-)
>>>>>><snip>
>You really should come up to Dallas sometime and skate with us, especially
>since it is getting cooler :-)
That would be very humbling, I'm sure. But good luck in the
marathon. I am going to try the sport now that the annual heat wave
is over.