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Jay Cai

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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Greetings,

I'm a beginning skater and plan on skating for fitness, recreation, and
maybe a few tricks eventually. I am considering buying the '96 TRS
Lightning by Rollerblade, but have a few last questions before
committing.

1. How bad is the temperature in these skates since they're not vented?
I'd like to go long distances on them if possible.

2. How do they compare with the Macroblades? I know the macroblades have
larger wheels and better bearings, but all these can be changed on the
TRS's. The only advantage I see in the Macroblades is the vented liner
and boot. Again, does the venting really help THAT much? I'm fairly
tolerant of sweat, and would prefer a durable skate if possible. Are the
macroblades durable?

3. Any complaints about either skate? I'm looking for ANY NEGATIVE
comments on these skates since I've heard all the positive remarks by
the sales people and the manufacturers already. E-mail if you don't want
to sound like a whiner (or for any other reason).

Any further comments and suggestions are welcome. I'd like all the
feedback I can get. Thanks.

- Jay

Scythe

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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In article <31AD01...@tc.umn.edu>, Jay Cai <caix...@tc.umn.edu> wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I'm a beginning skater and plan on skating for fitness, recreation, and
>maybe a few tricks eventually. I am considering buying the '96 TRS
>Lightning by Rollerblade, but have a few last questions before
>committing.
>
>1. How bad is the temperature in these skates since they're not vented?
>I'd like to go long distances on them if possible.
>
I've skated LD and all day on my TRS's... you get sweaty feet but I never
noticed they were too hot.

>2. How do they compare with the Macroblades? I know the macroblades have
>larger wheels and better bearings, but all these can be changed on the
>TRS's. The only advantage I see in the Macroblades is the vented liner
>and boot. Again, does the venting really help THAT much? I'm fairly
>tolerant of sweat, and would prefer a durable skate if possible. Are the
>macroblades durable?
>

dunno how durable the Macroblades are, but they CANNOT be as durable as the
TRS.. they're nearly indestructable... I used to have a vented boot, and
IMHO all venting does is weaken the boot.. but that's just me (and I'm
biased.. I'd NEVER buy a Macroblade, but then I'm an aggressive skater)

>3. Any complaints about either skate? I'm looking for ANY NEGATIVE
>comments on these skates since I've heard all the positive remarks by
>the sales people and the manufacturers already. E-mail if you don't want
>to sound like a whiner (or for any other reason).

I dunno if they have one on the Macro.. but NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER
EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER buy one of those STUPID advanced brake things
(just thought I'd add that)
hope I halped somewhat


John A. O'Brien

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.skating.inline: 30-May-96 Re:
Rollerblade TRS Lightning by Scy...@portal.ca
> >1. How bad is the temperature in these skates since they're not vented?
> >I'd like to go long distances on them if possible.
> >
> I've skated LD and all day on my TRS's... you get sweaty feet but I never
> noticed they were too hot.
>

I've got Coolblades with the vents, and while I've never skated for any
length of time in a non-vented skate, I've got to assume that the vents
don't do that much. My feet still sweat like hell... I wouldn't go for
the Macroblade *just* becuase of the vents... they're not worth it.

John

Alex Ball

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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I have had TRS for about a year now. I love them. They look good.
They weren't very comfortable at first, the leading edge of the tongue
cuts your shins at first, but this soon stops as it softens up.
I lived in Chicago last year and skated from March to June with no
heat problems, sure your feet get hot, but wear thinner socks
(coolmax cycling socks are fine) or bare feet and it's not too bad.
Like wearing shoes really.
They seem very tough, all the aggressive skaters seem to have started
out on them, and you can use them for anything - hockey, aggressive or
general leisure. I know that K2 and others are more comfortable for
leisure use, but I would recommend them.
They are heavy though, but hey, you wanted to work out right?
Alex Ball

SuesZ

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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>1. How bad is the temperature in these skates since they're not vented?
>I'd like to go long distances on them if possible.

Why pay extra for air?? If the TRS is more comfortable, go for it... and
if it's too hot, get out the drill!

Brent Searcy

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Jun 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/2/96
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I bought a pair of used TRS Lightnings about 6 months ago and have been
extremely satisfied. I basically started as a beginner/recreationaltype skater and have slowly
been geeting into grinding and tricks. I've smashed my TRSs into several curbs and stairs and
they seem very durable.

You'll probably find that you want to replace the factory wheels fairly soon ... especially if
you get into tricks. The 78A factory wheels seem pretty soft, but I haven't skated on enough
different hardnesses to make an informed comparison.

A friend has vented-type Rollerblades, and after a couple miles of skating on a hot day, I'd say
our feet are equally hot and sweaty.

In short - I say go for the TRS Lightnings.

If you're like me, you'll soon be looking to catch curbs and rails in your TRSs and checking
here for how-to advice ...

-bas


ADdump2

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Jun 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/4/96
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Macroblades suck, they have no durability, I have TRS` and have had them
for a year they are not hot and they are the best skate to change around
which will inevitably be necesary sooner or later@!@ See ya


Adam 14

KK100

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Jun 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/4/96
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I absolutely agree!! I just bought my Lightning's this morning ( I also
have the Maxxum MX's - but they're not manuverable enough for Manhattan
street skating) I skated 150 blocks and they were spectacular - great
manuverability, comfortable and definitely not hot.

Get em!!

Robert Z. Nall

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Jun 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/5/96
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KK100 (kk...@aol.com) wrote:
: I absolutely agree!! I just bought my Lightning's this morning ( I also

: Get em!!

Okay, ar you sure that you were using lightnings? Those are the heavest,
hottest boots made for blades! I have them and love them, though they
are nearly dead now, but my feet sweat balls when I use them in the summer.

Zach

Dave Kelly

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Jun 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/5/96
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I am on my second pair of TRS (other pari "skated away on their own").
The new OX chassis makes best damn skate on the market for the money.
Even tho the wheels aren't so great, they can easily be
replaced/upgraded.

Rollerblade started this industry - It seems they still know how to lead
it with fine equipment.

db.

> add...@aol.com (ADdump2) wrote in article
<4p10vl$m...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>...

KK100

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Jun 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/5/96
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Yes, they were Lightnings. They were'nt hot but they're definitely heavy.
If you can recommend a lighter skate which would be good for urban street
(not aggressive, just manueverable) skating I would appreciate it.

Thanks.

bee...@pipeline.com

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Jun 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/6/96
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the reasons y any boots r hot r:

1) liners ... just like any liners in ski boots or work boots (it's like in
the summertime, u'r wearing winter coat)
2) ur feet generate heat and sweat after any work out session
3) dark color skates ... dark colors absorb and retain heat

final words ... live with the heat and sweat ... or skate in the winter
time

Alex Ball

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Jun 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/6/96
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What a load of rubbish, dark skates absorb heat. True if you just sit
in the sun motionless...Dark objects also radiate heat the most
efficiently, once you get moving they would make great radiators.
Except that the reason that you get hot feat is that the liners and the
plastic shell makes a great insulator.
Wear socks that help to wick the sweat away, powder your feet to help
control it a bit and you should be OK. Everyone gets hot feet, but you
can always take the skates off and let them cool down for a bit.
There's no real problem with Lightnings or they wouldn't be the most
copied skate out there.


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Bruno Fernandes

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Jun 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/7/96
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Alex Ball <al...@jeball.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>There's no real problem with Lightnings or they wouldn't be the most
>copied skate out there.

They're simply the best skate, PERIOD. No one has managed to match them - not
even the Roces knock-offs and not even any other skate in the Rollerblade line.

Some people complain about weight... Well, I'd say these are people that have
not tried any other Rollerblade brand skate. The Coolblades, Aeroblades, Macros
and Bravos are just as heavy - in fact, I think the new top-of the line
flag-ship Rollerblade skate (can't remember the name though it looked sharp)
feels heavier. If you take out a finely tuned scale I am sure you can measure
and record the difference in weight. If you put them on your feet or hold them
in your hand though...

And the venting in other skates is just a gimick. I've skated TRS for over two
years and my feet don't get any hotter than my friend's in his Bravoblades (he
used to skate TRS as well and agrees there's no difference in heat or weight
that's important enough to mention).

The only reason I would look for another skate right now would be for the bigger
wheels (something in the 76mm ballpark).

And I love the stock TRS 78A wheels - for rec use that is. If you're going
aggressive, then get harder and possibly smaller wheels. If you're into long
skates and don't grind every two seconds, you can't beat 78A. I'd hate to skate
something like 82 or 85A - way too hard and harsh.

Bruno

Patrick Niemeyer

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Jun 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/10/96
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> In article <31AD01...@tc.umn.edu>, Jay Cai <caix...@tc.umn.edu> wrote:
> >Greetings,
> >
> >1. How bad is the temperature in these skates since they're not vented?
> >I'd like to go long distances on them if possible.
> >
> I've skated LD and all day on my TRS's... you get sweaty feet but I never
> noticed they were too hot.
I just got my TRS a month ago and love them. I had cool blades before that,
though and while I agree that there is no noticable difference in feet getting
too hot (ahh, the plague of the in-line skater, "Damn are my feet hot!"), they
seem *way* heavier. Also, my friends have all gone from cool blades to TRS
and I'll say that the cool blades never got to the level of stench that their
TRS's achieved.

> >2. How do they compare with the Macroblades? I know the macroblades have

> dunno how durable the Macroblades are, but they CANNOT be as durable as the

> TRS.. they're nearly indestructable... I used to have a vented boot, andAgreed, but if you just want to skate recreationally, I wouldn't recommend the
TRS. A lighter skate (which venting accomplishes) that's more comfortable is
what you want. Buckled skates (did I just verb the word 'buckle'?) are more
convenient but TRS are more solid, less expensive and much more durable.

> >3. Any complaints about either skate? I'm looking for ANY NEGATIVE

> I dunno if they have one on the Macro.. but NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER

> EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER buy one of those STUPID advanced brake thingsStraight up! I don't know if you can get cool blades without the new brakes
but if you can I think they're a great recreational skate. If you have to buy
them with the new brake, I'd even suggest looking at Roller Derby's latest
model as an alternative. I hope this was somewhat useful.
Patrick...

Bruno Melli

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Jun 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/13/96
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Bruno Fernandes (hyb...@interlog.com) wrote:
: The only reason I would look for another skate right now would be for
: the bigger wheels (something in the 76mm ballpark).

That's what I don't like about my old lightning. I want bigger wheels.
Has anybody replaced the wheel assembly on lightnings ? I always drool
over that nice aluminum frame on some of the Bauer skates...

bruno.

The Marquis de Sade

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Jun 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/14/96
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I dont know if anyone else has noticed this about the Lightnings but when
you sand on them, the weight tends to be too much on the "back" - the feeling
is as if you were leaning bac ka little too much.

OTOH, with Macroblades, when you stand, your weight seems to be up
ahead, like it should be.

I hope I am getting my point through.. anyone know how to remedy this? Change
frames?

Vandit

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