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Podium99

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Mar 16, 2001, 5:44:35 PM3/16/01
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>atia
>really is pregnant why would she not announce it by now?
>It has been several months since the specualtion began.
>Maybe she is NOT pregnant and is really taking time off to spend time with
>Daria.
>

BARB how long is it going to take for you to realize skaters do not announce
the bad details of there lives. injuries maybe yes but not the true story
even then.

TFBWWW

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Mar 16, 2001, 5:52:25 PM3/16/01
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>skaters do not announce
>the bad details of there lives.

your right and this prengancy is a bad detail!

TFBWWW
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Jayne

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Mar 15, 2001, 6:53:07 PM3/15/01
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You better check out that russian article..the title is "ekaterina
gordeeva awaits child"

http://www.kp.ru/articles/issue22505.5/paper1903.html

Rick babelfished it above

BABSKATE wrote:
>
> I am playing the devil's advocate for a minute here but assuming that Katia


> really is pregnant why would she not announce it by now?
> It has been several months since the specualtion began.
> Maybe she is NOT pregnant and is really taking time off to spend time with
> Daria.
>

> Barb

BABSKATE

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Mar 15, 2001, 6:42:22 PM3/15/01
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GPOsborne

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Mar 15, 2001, 7:31:07 PM3/15/01
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Thank you , that was a great help.
GPOsborne

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JDani22326

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Mar 15, 2001, 8:04:18 PM3/15/01
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Why *would* she announce it? She is a very private woman. I doubt she views
herself as some big celebrity who would have a press conference to announce her
pregnancy! Celine Dion she's not. Plus, in her culture, people are much more
private about things of this nature -- they don't even have baby showers until
the baby is actually born.

TFBWWW

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Mar 15, 2001, 7:27:49 PM3/15/01
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>assuming that Katia
>really is pregnant why would she not announce it by now?

isnt it obveous? she is ashammed of being prengnant and unmarried. she was
hopeing that illya would marry her by now but he has not and will not. he just
used her for conveniant sex. and she tried to get him to marry her but he
wasnt fooled.

>Maybe she is NOT pregnant and is really taking time off to spend time with
>Daria.

yeah and may be i will sproute wings and fly. (g)

she never spends a minute more with diaria then she can help. she prefers to
just have her mother riase diairia for her. that is what she will do with the
new one to.

TFBWWW

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Mar 15, 2001, 8:09:38 PM3/15/01
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>She is a very private woman.

oh puhlleeze. she had some one write a book detaling some of the most intimite
things in her life. she would do just any any thing for money.

she has kept quiet about the prengancy because she is ashammed of being
prengannt with an ilegtimate child.

>in her culture, people are much more
>private about things of this nature

yeah and you know alot about her culture. yeah right.

BrenLyn01JJ

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Mar 15, 2001, 11:12:08 PM3/15/01
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>You better check out that russian article..the title is "ekaterina
>gordeeva awaits child"
>
>http://www.kp.ru/articles/issue22505.5/paper1903.html

Thanks!!!! Helps out!

Jocelyn

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Mar 16, 2001, 2:35:56 AM3/16/01
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>>You better check out that russian article..the title is "ekaterina
>>gordeeva awaits child"
>>
>>http://www.kp.ru/articles/issue22505.5/paper1903.html

This is exactly why I don't filter Ron Ng, Hattie, or Podium99.

Jocelyn

KKR

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Mar 16, 2001, 8:44:18 AM3/16/01
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I don't read Russian.......is there any translation available?

Jayne <jayne...@home.com> wrote in message
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Ron Ng

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Mar 17, 2001, 12:00:11 PM3/17/01
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>Why *would* she announce it? She is a very private woman.

Not so private that she didn't write a book about herself and putting herself
in the media spotlight!

>Plus, in her culture, people are much more
>private about things of this nature -- they don't even have baby showers
>until
>the baby is actually born.

That's not just a russian tradition.


Ron Ng Knows!

WIsil

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Mar 19, 2001, 12:00:34 PM3/19/01
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>You better check out that russian article..the title is "ekaterina
>gordeeva awaits child"
>
>http://www.kp.ru/articles/issue22505.5/paper1903.html

Thank you, but does anyone have a translation?????


-Wendy

Caroline Migneault

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Mar 19, 2001, 12:02:39 PM3/19/01
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"WIsil" <wi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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This is a translation that a friend of mine in Moscow did for me:


Katia Gordeeva is expecting a baby.

A famous skater, become a widow 5 years ago, has found her chosen one and is
preparing to become mother again. The history of Katia and the people that
she loved is tragic and at the same time wonderful.

In 2000 year an American magazine Biography called Olympic skating champions
Ekaterina Gordeeva and Sergei Grinkov one of invincible duets of XX-th
century. Russian champions got in the company with Jon and Jaclin Kennedy,
Bill Gates and Polla Allen....

Katia and Sergei

The tiny girl was stood on skates when she was less than 4 years old. By 11
years old Gordeeva couldn't become a good single skater. And the coaches
decided to put her in a pair with a solo-unlucky person Sergei Grinkov.

He was 15, but he looked too tiny for throws and lifts of even such a tiny
girl as Katia. He looked at his young partner and began to train lifts with
an iron chair to pump up his muscles.

"He threw me as a doll and I was falling with no end. I was all battered and
bruised - remembers Katia 15 years later. - and the coach was shouting "You
are throwing a crystal vase!". And soon I began to feel safely".

They were tried to get them part from before the junior world championship
in 1984. Their parents rose against it and the duet was saved. And it took
"Gold".

Stanislav Juk, taken the perspective pair, worked with them hard. "At some
moments I thought that he did all to get me and Sergei to part from. Sergei
didn't like the way the coach behaved and I didn't still have my own
opinion. - told Katia later - but Juk's school tempered me and I got
stronger".

Gone away to Leonovich they began to enjoy skating again. They worked off an
unique jump after that Katia's pulse jumped up till 200 strokes a minute.

In 1987 as a Word "adult" champions they went over the USA in Collin's tour
for the first time. In Disneyland they embraced a few times as if
accidentally. Sergei carried her suitcases, offered his hand when she was
getting of a bus. Her attitude to her partner then Katia called coquetry.

After the tournament "Moscow News" while a lift Grinkov dropped Katia on the
ice. She hit her forehead and spent a lot of long days in a hospital. "He
came to visit me every day with roses - remembers Katia - after that
accident he began to hold me safer. We tutned into a real pair".

On New 1988 Year's day in Moscow they smashed plates for good luck. On Saint
Valentin day they perfectly skated at the Olympics-88. And in the sauna of a
famous skater Aleksandr Fadeev on New Year's night in 1989 there happened
that both of them dreamed and one of them thought of an year ago.

"We were drinking Vodka from small wine-glasses, talking about everything
and kissed in lips for the first time. - remembers Katia - Sasha Fadeev
peeped out of the sweating-room and having seen us he disappeared back as
scalded. He had to do it several times, otherwise he would suffocate".

In Birmingem, out of spite of settling separately, they were spending nights
together. In Paris Sergei heard from Katia "I love you" for the first time.
And a choreographer, Marina Zueva, did them a program "Romeo and Julieta".

In registry office Grinkov hardly signed by his recently operated hand, and
when they were tiding up the flat after the noisy wedding a dove flew into
the room throw the window. "It's to misfortune" - Katia's mother shuddered.

Having found out that Katia is pregnant, she decided to do an abort. Sergei
didn't let her do it, he was very much glad of baby. When she was four
months along she stopped skating. She went to America to give birth to baby.
She got in the hospital right from the Open tennis championship. While the
delivery Sergei was near her, the doctors gave his daughter right in his
arms.

In 3 weeks the father took the happy mother onto the ice, 3 months later
they became World Professional champions.

They were allowed to skate in at Olympics Games-94, and a doctor of our team
said that Sergei was quite healthy for it.

They had all, the second Olympics Gold, the success in America and
profitable invitations from ice shows.

On the ice Katia touched to her beloved man's shoulder:

- It smells good...
- Yes, it's clean.

And he slipped up to the board.

"He sat sown on the ice. Zueva stopped music, began to do a heart's
massage - she remembered it once again for her book "My Sergei", - I called
"911" and .... forgot all English words".

Katia without Sergei

"Excuse me, Serezha, only fairy-tales end well..." Katia was saying,
stroking his growing cold hand. Neither electro-shock or an injection into
his heart helped.

Sergei was buried in Moscow on Vagankovo. A lot of people came to attend a
funeral.

"After the funeral I was sleeping all the time. I lost the sense in life.
Mother said me "give up skating, live with me", money was enough for 10
years - remembered Katia - choreographer Marina Zueva wrote to me that
Sergei was dream of her life. And Father Nikolai said me "Don't be afraid to
be happy in future. If you will meet other man to take him into the church".

Katia with Dasha went to America, performed in the popular show "Stars on
ice". In the hospital for hard ill children she made Sergei Grinkov's
garden. There are a lot of flowers there, a small waterfall and a map on
what there marked all the cities where Katia and Sergei skated.

Katia's books "My Sergei" and "A letter for Daria" got bestsellers in the
USA. The story of the beautiful widow with her little daughter, returned on
ice after her beloved man died, made the whole America cry.

She was offered good publicity contracts. Her perfume "Katia sport" is very
popular in America. The Web flooded with related to her sites. The Russian
champion got in the number of 50 the most beautiful people of the planet.

Her daughter came to Montessori school, went in for rhythmic gymnastics and
piano. And every summer asks her mother "Do we go to Moscow for holydays?".

There are many Sergei's photos in their house in California.

"Whoever would come in this house, Dasha remembers who is her father - says
Katia - When she is asked if she wants a brother or a sister, she answers
"Yes".

Katia and Ilia

With Ilia Katia began to perform in the show "Stars on ice". They did two
programs together, though Ilia always shone in single skating. They appeared
together on an advertisement poster of "Stars on ice". The pair was seen at
some ice shows and competitions. They were holding hands. Trained together
living in different sides of America, Katia - in Connecticut, Ilia - in
California. Soon it became clear that Katia had met a new love.

Ilia is a handsome man - a discovery in Figure skating World , where
everyone gets used to be face to face from the childhood with the cold ice
and thousands eyes. There are not many people who can to give up such a
coach as Tatiana Tarasova who brought him to Olympic pedestal. Kulik risked.

Now Kulik made another pair number and skates it in the show. But it's not
with Katia, but with another Olympic champion young Tara Lipinski. Ekaterina
was to get an adorning in "Stars on ice" this season. The owners of the
show were already advertising the show, the tickets were sold. The
press-release in November where it was announced that Katia would not be in
the show this winter was a bolt from the blue for Katia's fans. The reason:
she must spend more time with her family and her daughter 8 year old Dasha.
Skating sites flooded with "condolence" to each other....

Katia is expecting a baby

Ilia Kulik is called as the father of the baby. The articles on the theme
both champions refused to comment. Close Katia's friends confirmed our
correspondents that Katia's pregnancy is not a rumour. The birth of the
second baby is expecting in May.

If it's truth Katia will do a present for herself to her jubilee: in May 28
she will turn 30. Kulik will turn 24 five days earlier.

"I am glad that two Russian souls have found each other" - it's one of
comments in a discussion that was developed in one of foreign skating sites
(during 3 months there appeared 347 messages there from people who wanted to
share their information or emotions on the future baby.) Write about all,
what surname the baby will have (may be Gordeeva-Kulik) and whether Katia
will get married for the second time (if she need it?) and even about how
the news will affect the selling of her perfume.

If to tell the truth, Katia's silence on the theme is more liking than
advertisement company that popular stars do from their pregnancies. Katia
and Sergei were an ideal pair from fairy ice world for the whole country. It
seems they must slip along their life as easy as they did on ice, holding
hands. And after Sergei's death for us, spectators, Katia lived in the same
fairy love tale. But life can't be inscribed in 8 elements of a compulsory
program.

Yulia Smirnova
Igor Emelianov
Andrei Baranov


PosterBoy

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Mar 19, 2001, 12:34:18 PM3/19/01
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"Caroline Migneault" <carol...@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> "WIsil" <wi...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20010319120034...@ng-ci1.aol.com...
> > >You better check out that russian article..the title is "ekaterina
> > >gordeeva awaits child"
> > >
> > >http://www.kp.ru/articles/issue22505.5/paper1903.html
> >
> > Thank you, but does anyone have a translation?????
> >
> >
> > -Wendy
>
> This is a translation that a friend of mine in Moscow did for me:
> Katia Gordeeva is expecting a baby.

/\/\/\/\/\/ rest of story snipped \/\/\/\/\/\/

Many thanks, Caroline, for providing this translation.

Cheers.


DG511

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Mar 19, 2001, 1:05:17 PM3/19/01
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>"Caroline Migneault" carol...@home.com

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>This is a translation that a friend of mine in Moscow did for me:

Thank you, Caroline.

<from the article>

>But life can't be inscribed in 8 elements of a compulsory
>program.

An excellent point.

Daria

WIsil

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