Hershey's Skating Challenge
RoseC
http://www.usfsa.org/news/press/hersheys0301.html
Looks like Kristi's gonna be in it (!) and Michelle, lucky fans in
Binghamton!
and on the men's side - Todd, Rudy, Alexei Y., Weiss, and Viktor
should be one of the better pro ams thats for sure
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>Looks like Kristi's gonna be in it (!) and Michelle, lucky fans in
>Binghamton!
That Tschaikovsky is going to be very hard to beat.
>and on the men's side - Todd, Rudy, Alexei Y., Weiss, and Viktor
<sigh> I wonder if we'll see any new programs from these gents?
>should be one of the better pro ams thats for sure
Definitely. An no more cheesy team garbage. I trust the closed scoring is a
thing of the past, too.
Peg
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Lfergrace
http://www.usfsa.org/news/press/hersheys0301.html
Looks like Kristi's gonna be in it (!) and Michelle, lucky fans in
Binghamton!
and on the men's side - Todd, Rudy, Alexei Y., Weiss, and Viktor
should be one of the better pro ams thats for sure>>
Trudi, will you adopt me?
Laura
Laura
John Lynker
>
Will coverage be live?
(prolly not, huh...sigh)
Trudi, Break out your best spoiler hun!
Can't wait for this one...
J
Karen Frank
>http://www.usfsa.org/news/press/hersheys0301.html
Trudi, if you have a hot tub... well... it could at the very least
be the warm up party for Kaiju's 2002 Nationals hot tub party.
Karen
RoseC
wrote:
> >Looks like Kristi's gonna be in it (!) and Michelle
> >
>
over Kristi competing), perhaps there is room
for a few more ladies, since there are only 4 women and 6 men?
>
> Wow!!! This'll be great!
>
> Will coverage be live?
> (prolly not, huh...sigh)
>
by NNN! :-)
>
>
> Trudi, Break out your best spoiler hun!
> Can't wait for this one...
>
> J
>
>
>
>
BJOlson851
perhaps there is room for a few more ladies, since there are only 4 women and 6
men?>>
Isn't Katarina Witt listed as a competitor?
RoseC
So I suppose there might be room for 1 more lady?
5 ladies, 6 men, 4 pairs and only two dance teams.
Will there still be a team portion to this competition?
Trudi Marrapodi
(Karen Frank) wrote:
>lfer...@aol.communique (Lfergrace) wrote:
>
>><<I was just looking at the updated roster @
>
>>http://www.usfsa.org/news/press/hersheys0301.html
>
>>Looks like Kristi's gonna be in it (!) and Michelle, lucky fans in
>>Binghamton!
And Kat and Maria, right? Well, well, looks as if Kristi has decided
pro-am competition might not be such a bad thing after all. That alone
makes this one a big story.
Not to mention, an exhibition by N3! I was hoping she'd tag along...
>>and on the men's side - Todd, Rudy, Alexei Y., Weiss, and Viktor
Elvis too. And plenty of pairs...don't suppose the dance will be a big
deal, but hey, at least there will BE a dance event.
>>should be one of the better pro ams thats for sure>>
>
>>Trudi, will you adopt me?
>
>Trudi, if you have a hot tub... well... it could at the very least
>be the warm up party for Kaiju's 2002 Nationals hot tub party.
Well, I don't have a hot tub...but I am willing to take donations...my
back yard is very big! And don't laugh...we're at least as likely to have
80-degree weather on April 13 as we are a blizzard.
Anyway, yeah, if it looks like this thing is not going to be aired for
awhile, I'll definitely post on it as soon as I can. It seemed sort of
pointless after Ultimate Four, considering how quickly NBC aired it...but
maybe this time it won't be. That is, I will post quickly if I'm not kept
too busy running room service at the Hotel Trudi.
Trudi
BJOlson851
Hey - no problem! :o)
<<So I suppose there might be room for 1 more lady?>>
I wonder if Nicole would be well enough to compete by then?
Wayne Joy
ABC.
Icicle2686
think nicole would be a great choice to add to the roster as well, if she's
ready. she wouldn't have to do tons of jumps, but she could show the world that
she's still serious. also, if i remember correctly, tara's cbs contract only
prohibits her from skating in *prime time* competitions on other networks. and
when was the last time a hershey's kisses-style pro am was broadcast at any
other time besides saturday and sunday afternoons? the possibilities are
endless!
~liz
~liz
Sandra Loosemore
> why isn't nnn competing?
This is an international open competition to be conducted under
the ISU's rules for such events, as I understand it, and Nam is too
young to compete under the ISU's age restrictions.
-Sandra
Barbara Hoffman
>> why isn't nnn competing?
>This is an international open competition to be conducted under
>the ISU's rules for such events, as I understand it, and Nam is too
>young to compete under the ISU's age restrictions.
Two or three years ago at a pro-am in Philadelphia, the pros were judged by
pro rules and the eligibles were judged by ISU rules. It seemed to work
fine. Was this ever done again?
As to age restrictions, has it been suggested that the restrictions apply to
the tests -- a skater must reach a certain age before she can take a given
test?
Barbara
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HILL JANET SWAN
>Sandra Loosemore wrote:
>
>>> why isn't nnn competing?
This is a rhetorical question: Why, when we had a lengthy discussion
about this very point LASTING OVER THE PAST TWO WEEKS, do questions like
this pop up? I could understand if we the issue hadn't come up for six
months or so, but this one has been running right up until YESTERDAY.
(sorry ...... just a fit of pique, here. I'm over it now)
>>This is an international open competition to be conducted under
>>the ISU's rules for such events, as I understand it, and Nam is too
>>young to compete under the ISU's age restrictions.
>
>As to age restrictions, has it been suggested that the restrictions apply to
>the tests -- a skater must reach a certain age before she can take a given
>test?
Well, it's been *suggested*, but you have to realize that each national
governing body has its own test structure (for some countries there is NO
test structure, and *that's* their structure) testing different skills at
different "skill intervals", and using different names. (for instance, in
the UK, "novice" really is a beginner's level. In the USFSA, "novice" is
the first of the elite levels).
In the USFSA, the test structure serves two different purposes: As a
measurement of skill, and as a competition-level qualifier. For those
skaters whose primary interest is in taking the test to validate a level
of skill for their own satisfaction, or those whose primary interest is in
a "credential" to serve them as future coaches (and there are many more
such skaters than there are skaters who ever reasonably aspire to
international competition), an age restriction is meaningless and
intrusive. I mean, why prevent a 14-year old skater whose interest is in
"proving she can pass the test" from passing it, if she has the skill,
when she has no interest in international competition?
I *suppose* that just as the USFSA ice dancing test structure has a level
above "Gold" ("International" .... I think in Canada it may be called
"Diamond"), it could institute an additional test level called
"International" that could not be taken until the skater was within a year
of age eligible for international competition, but I don't think that
would solve the problem ..... It really wouldn't accomplish anything that
just having the ISU age restrictions already does.
janet
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In article <7bk61s$p...@peabody.colorado.edu>, hil...@spot.Colorado.EDU
(HILL JANET SWAN) wrote:
> Barbara Hoffman <bar...@erols.com> wrote:
>
> >Sandra Loosemore wrote:
> >
> >>> why isn't nnn competing?
>
> This is a rhetorical question: Why, when we had a lengthy discussion
> about this very point LASTING OVER THE PAST TWO WEEKS, do questions like
> this pop up? I could understand if we the issue hadn't come up for six
> months or so, but this one has been running right up until YESTERDAY.
> (sorry ...... just a fit of pique, here. I'm over it now)
>
some people don't have the time to read every single post. Some people may
be avoiding NNN posts cause that's not a topic they keep right up to date
on. I find your "fit of pique" quite rude. (and I'm not even the one that
asked the question)
Trudi Marrapodi
(Dara M. Fell) wrote:
Look, if you know Janet, you know she's one of the more patient, less rude
people around here, who does not "snap" easily. When she snaps, you KNOW
things have gone too far. ;-)
I think Janet is just weary because there have been so very many threads
of late having to do with Nam and the age issue and why it is and why it
should or shouldn't be, and is suffering a bit of fatigue from trying to
explain it all and then still have people ask why she isn't in this
pro-am. She doesn't mean to be rude, she's just saying that it's tough
having to tell 99 people something and then a hundredth person comes along
and asks you...it's not that you hold it against them for not listening in
with the 99, it's just that it's kinda like working in a public building
and spending all day having to tell people where the bathrooms are...sure
it's part of your job, but sometimes you can't help but wish more of them
would just read the signs...
Of course, what people are forgetting is that it's an ISU pro-am, ISU
rules apply, and therefore, Nam is too young. Simple.
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icicl...@aol.com (Icicle2686) wrote:
> why isn't nnn competing? she seems like a likely choice for a competitor.
I know there are many NNN fans who would like to see more of her, but I'm
concerned about the pressure this puts on her. Already, I see she's doing
several exhibitions, including this event and one in Korea. That's a very
heavy load for such a young skater who is still very much in a developmental
stage.
NNN skated great at Nationals, but from what's been reported on this
newsgroup, that was well above her established level of performance: in other
words, there is no evidence that she is consistent at that level yet. Now
she's in the spotlight, where the normal ups and downs of a skater at her
stage of development will be put under close scrutiny. In addition, flying
all over to do exhibitions will cut into her training at what appears to be a
crucial time for her. What if she doesn't skate as well next time out? Fans
are fickel. In a few weeks people could be ripping her apart.
I think people who consider themselves fans of NNN should give her some time
and breathing room to develop, instead of clamoring for more of her. Think
long term, folks! I'd hate to see her "washed up" at 15.
--Ruth
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<trudiwantsnospam...@cci-209150250057.clarityconnect.net>,
trudiwan...@clarityconnect.com (Trudi Marrapodi) writes:
>Of course, what people are forgetting is that it's an ISU pro-am, ISU
>rules apply, and therefore, Nam is too young. Simple.
Slight correction, but a very important one: it is *not* "an ISU pro-am", it's
a USFSA event which has an ISU sanction. One more time folks, the USFSA "open"
(nee "pro-am") events are *not* part of an ISU "series" of events. If anyone
doesn' catch the significance of the distinction, consider the limits on USFSA
autonomy regarding last year's Skate America -- which, perhaps not for the
better, *is* part of an ISU "series".
But, yes, ISU Rules do apply to events which have an ISU sanction -- elsewise
the sanction would not be given.
Respectfully,
Steven <---- posting solely as an individual "private citizen"
Icicle2686
>
>about this very point LASTING OVER THE PAST TWO WEEKS, do questions like
>this pop up? I could understand if we the issue hadn't come up for six
>months or so, but this one has been running right up until YESTERDAY.
i'm sorry that i don't have time to read every single post. i'm sorry that i
only tend to read ones with interesting subject heads. next time i dare to ask
a question on this newsgroup, i will be sure to read every single post
available to see if it's been covered.
Kkonas
>and breathing room to develop, instead of clamoring for more of her. Think
>long term, folks! I'd hate to see her "washed up" at 15.
>
Exhibition routines are not likely to "ruin her skating development." I don't
think she needs to train every moment of every day in the off season.She is not
going to Worlds or World Juniors and the season is bascially over for her
except for skating some exhibitions. Both Kwan and Lipinski were skating
exhibition routines at that age. It didn't hurt them any. It is a way to earn
some money to pay for skating expenses. It is up to her family and coach to
decide how much "exposure" is too much.
LKW35
The previous post didn't say that it would. She said that pushing competitions
on her might be detrimental at this stage in her development.
Trudi Marrapodi
<trudiwantsnospam...@cci-209150250057.clarityconnect.net>,
trudiwan...@clarityconnect.com (Trudi Marrapodi) wrote:
[snip]
>I think Janet is just weary because there have been so very many threads
>of late having to do with Nam and the age issue and why it is and why it
>should or shouldn't be, and is suffering a bit of fatigue from trying to
>explain it all and then still have people ask why she isn't in this
>pro-am. She doesn't mean to be rude, she's just saying that it's tough
>having to tell 99 people something and then a hundredth person comes along
>and asks you...it's not that you hold it against them for not listening in
>with the 99, it's just that it's kinda like working in a public building
>and spending all day having to tell people where the bathrooms are...sure
>it's part of your job, but sometimes you can't help but wish more of them
>would just read the signs...
And one more thing I wanted to point out but forgot to...it's not Janet's
job to explain to people why Nam isn't in worlds or the pro-am. She's
explaining all this out of the goodness of her heart. If she gets a little
impatient sometimes having to explain it yet again, I think that can be
forgiven, considering that she's doing it for free.
Trudi
Virginia Blalock
Sure. Exhibitions also help skaters with their performance skills
which they in turn can use in their competitive programs.
Virginia
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>>Exhibition routines are not likely to "ruin her skating development."
>
>The previous post didn't say that it would. She said that pushing competitions
>on her might be detrimental at this stage in her development.
But how does one get to be a better competitor if they don't compete?
I would agree about too many competitions(or lots of competitions in a
short time span) but one has to compete to get better at competiting.
LKW35
>I would agree about too many competitions(or lots of competitions in a
>short time span) but one has to compete to get better at competiting.
She should continue to compete in other venues. Local and regional
competitions are fine. I'm not sure it is a good idea to throw someone with
little experience out into the ring with the seasoned professionals. Give her
some time to develop and mature (physically and mentally).
I do not understand why everyone seems to be wanting to push these kids into
such a rough schedule so soon. This isn't a race is it?
Virginia Blalock
So what happens when the girls(and guys, too) DO eventually get to
compete with the "big guys" and only have the little piddly
competitions as "experience?" So, when would you want them to start
competiting? When they're 20?
LKW35
>compete with the "big guys" and only have the little piddly
>competitions as "experience?" So, when would you want them to start
>competiting? When they're 20?
>
>
>
From what I can pick up Regional and Local stuff is not "piddly". Everything I
have seen and read points to Figure Skating as being pretty cut throat at all
levels. What I have seen of Nationals, it is also pretty serious competition.
Stick to the exhabitions at these events for a while.
As for waiting till they are 20... maybe not such a bad idea. IMHO they should
wait till they are 18. I do not see this as a race to get to the top by the
time you are 13. It isn't good for anyone to train that hard that young. Just
my opinion, no flames please.
skat...@aol.com
lk...@aol.com (LKW35) wrote:
> >But how does one get to be a better competitor if they don't compete?
> >I would agree about too many competitions(or lots of competitions in a
> >short time span) but one has to compete to get better at competiting.
>
> She should continue to compete in other venues. Local and regional
> competitions are fine. I'm not sure it is a good idea to throw someone with
> little experience out into the ring with the seasoned professionals. Give her
> some time to develop and mature (physically and mentally).
First, whether you like it or not, she will be competing internationally on
the Junior Grand Prix and hopefully at Junior Worlds. No one, however, says
that she will be out there with seasoned professionals, unless you want to
count the Russian girls, like Ivanova, who make a career of the junior
circuit. I can't imagine that local and regional competitions will challenge
her or motivate her to improve.
Second, these skaters are athletes and competitors. They want to challenge
themselves, to live with the pressure, to see if they have what it takes to
win. Why do so many people want to lock them in a closet until they're some
ripe old age? This "protective" attitude has gotten ridiculous. Jean Lenzi
DesertRoaz
>
>So what happens when the girls(and guys, too) DO eventually get to
>compete with the "big guys" and only have the little piddly
>competitions as "experience?" So, when would you want them to start
>competiting? When they're 20?
I think 16 is a good age.
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>> She should continue to compete in other venues. Local and regional
>> competitions are fine. I'm not sure it is a good idea to throw someone with
>> little experience out into the ring with the seasoned professionals. Give her
>> some time to develop and mature (physically and mentally).
>
>First, whether you like it or not, she will be competing internationally on
>the Junior Grand Prix and hopefully at Junior Worlds. No one, however, says
>that she will be out there with seasoned professionals, unless you want to
>count the Russian girls, like Ivanova, who make a career of the junior
>circuit. I can't imagine that local and regional competitions will challenge
>her or motivate her to improve.
Exactly! All competitions give you experience, but just the lower
level ones cannot give you the experience you need that you get from
competiting in competitions like US nationals.
>Second, these skaters are athletes and competitors. They want to challenge
>themselves, to live with the pressure, to see if they have what it takes to
>win. Why do so many people want to lock them in a closet until they're some
>ripe old age? This "protective" attitude has gotten ridiculous. Jean Lenzi
Being protective can go overboard. We don't need to put kids into
plastic bubbles. I bet if you look at the average competitive skater,
they are a lot tougher than people give them credit for.
Skatfan
>of late having to do with Nam and the age issue and why it is and why it
>should or shouldn't be, and is suffering a bit of fatigue from trying to
>explain it all and then still have people ask why she isn't in this
>pro-am. She doesn't mean to be rude, she's just saying that it's tough
>having to tell 99 people something and then a hundredth person comes along
>and asks you...
Janet, hang in there, we know and love you, but Trudi's defense here goes a bit
far -- messages are posted to anyone, not someone in particular. She doesn't
have to answer each and every one -- many of us know the answer and can provide
it too. But I understand going over the edge, I do it every once in a while
too!
Renee
ska...@aol.com
(who hopes somebody will come to her defense someday with as much devotion and
energy as Trudi did for Janet)
skat...@aol.com
deser...@aol.commondenom (DesertRoaz) wrote:
> Virginia wrote:
>
> >
> >So what happens when the girls(and guys, too) DO eventually get to
> >compete with the "big guys" and only have the little piddly
> >competitions as "experience?" So, when would you want them to start
> >competiting? When they're 20?
>
> I think 16 is a good age.
If I understand this correctly you don't want any skaters to compete anywhere
until they're 16? That throws out the entire USFSA competitive structure
that has been in place for years. Under this rule, no juvenile,
intermediate, novice, junior competitions. Everyone goes straight to seniors
when they're 16? Well, you might as well just stop figure skating in this
country or around the world if you think 16 should be the international age
for competitions. You don't learn to compete by not competing. How silly.
Rosie
LKW35
>the Junior Grand Prix and hopefully at Junior Worlds.
Operative word there.... JUNIORS.
It has nothing to do with whether I like it or not. I was expressing an
opinion.
>Second, these skaters are athletes and competitors. They want to challenge
>themselves, to live with the pressure, to see if they have what it takes to
>win. Why do so many people want to lock them in a closet until they're some
>ripe old age?
Because like it or not they do not always know what is best for them in the
long run. Sorry, but it is the truth. I remember 13..16..18. There is a LOAD
of difference.
>This "protective" attitude has gotten ridiculous.
If someone doesn't protect them from pushy parents, coaches, and fans they will
burn out to quickly then where are they?
As stated, it is my opinion. I am not trying to change the system, I just have
problems with young kids pushing their bodies to the limit. Working in sports
medicine has shown me what it can do.
Virginia Blalock
>>Second, these skaters are athletes and competitors. They want to challenge
>>themselves, to live with the pressure, to see if they have what it takes to
>>win. Why do so many people want to lock them in a closet until they're some
>>ripe old age?
>
>Because like it or not they do not always know what is best for them in the
>long run. Sorry, but it is the truth. I remember 13..16..18. There is a LOAD
>of difference.
Yes, there is. BUT.. there is ALSO a load of difference between YOU
and I at 13, 16 or 18 and these skaters at the same age. They learn
things we don't sometimes and they also learn the same lessons we do
in a different(and sometimes more cruel) way. That can make one
stronger.
> >This "protective" attitude has gotten ridiculous.
>
>If someone doesn't protect them from pushy parents, coaches, and fans they will
>burn out to quickly then where are they?
Arbitrary rules regarding age won't solve the problems. They are more
solved at the local level.
Trudi Marrapodi
(Skatfan) wrote:
> >I think Janet is just weary because there have been so very many threads
> >of late having to do with Nam and the age issue and why it is and why it
> >should or shouldn't be, and is suffering a bit of fatigue from trying to
> >explain it all and then still have people ask why she isn't in this
> >pro-am. She doesn't mean to be rude, she's just saying that it's tough
> >having to tell 99 people something and then a hundredth person comes along
> >and asks you...
>
> Janet, hang in there, we know and love you, but Trudi's defense here
goes a bit
> far -- messages are posted to anyone, not someone in particular. She doesn't
> have to answer each and every one -- many of us know the answer and can
provide
> it too.
Did you yet see my message in which I acknowledge that point--that Janet
doesn't HAVE to do this, she CHOOSES to--and merely for that, she deserves
not to get ripped for being rude if she gets a bit impatient?
> But I understand going over the edge, I do it every once in a while
> too!
>
> Renee
> ska...@aol.com
>
> (who hopes somebody will come to her defense someday with as much devotion and
> energy as Trudi did for Janet)
Believe me, anyone who warrants it would get the same treatment.
Dara M. Lynn
> In article <19990305224734...@ng08.aol.com>, ska...@aol.com
> (Skatfan) wrote:
>
> > >I think Janet is just weary because there have been so very many threads
> > >of late having to do with Nam and the age issue and why it is and why it
> > >should or shouldn't be, and is suffering a bit of fatigue from trying to
> > >explain it all and then still have people ask why she isn't in this
> > >pro-am. She doesn't mean to be rude, she's just saying that it's tough
> > >having to tell 99 people something and then a hundredth person comes along
> > >and asks you...
> >
> > Janet, hang in there, we know and love you, but Trudi's defense here
> goes a bit far -- messages are posted to anyone, not someone in
particular. She doesn't have to answer each and every one -- many of us
know the answer and can provide it too.
>
> Did you yet see my message in which I acknowledge that point--that Janet
> doesn't HAVE to do this, she CHOOSES to--and merely for that, she deserves
> not to get ripped for being rude if she gets a bit impatient?
>
I totally disagree. It is never OK to be rude, espicially when it is ones
choice to post or not post. It's nice when she posts an answer again and
again and again when a question gets asked over and over and over, but
when it gets to the point where she is frustrated and being rude is the
only answer, she should CHOOSE to ignore the post and let someone else
answer (or let no one answer) instead of CHOOSING to be rude. JMHO.
Trudi Marrapodi
(Dara M. Lynn) wrote:
> In article trudiwan...@clarityconnect.com (Trudi Marrapodi) wrote:
[snip]
> > Did you yet see my message in which I acknowledge that point--that Janet
> > doesn't HAVE to do this, she CHOOSES to--and merely for that, she deserves
> > not to get ripped for being rude if she gets a bit impatient?
> >
>
> I totally disagree. It is never OK to be rude, espicially when it is ones
> choice to post or not post.
I am not saying it is OK to be rude. What I am saying is that if she gets
a bit impatient, I feel it is unfair to ACCUSE her of being "rude."
> It's nice when she posts an answer again and
> again and again when a question gets asked over and over and over, but
> when it gets to the point where she is frustrated and being rude is the
> only answer, she should CHOOSE to ignore the post and let someone else
> answer (or let no one answer) instead of CHOOSING to be rude. JMHO.
Janet didn't "choose to be rude." She "chose" to answer again, but let a
fragment of her impatience show. That's not the same as "choosing to be
rude."
Do you see something here? If you decide you are going to pass judgment
from now on on HOW people answer your questions...and whether or not they
were "rude" when they did it...you're welcome to do so, but don't be
surprised if, as a result, a lot fewer people answer them (maybe because
they would just rather spare themselves any possibility of being labeled
rude when they do it).
LKW35
>solved at the local level.
I don't think they are arbitrary really. The thing is in a sport as large as
figure skating you cannot take things on a case by case basis. The rules have
to be uniformily applied. I know that everyone matures at a different rate,
but you have to go with what is the mean. Everyone deserves a level playing
field.
Mark
Tara won't be there (Hersheys Challange'99). I know the reason why, too, and I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this terrible thing that has happened. Tara hurt herself so badly in a fall last August that she still - in March 1999 - has not recovered, and cannot do all the jumps she was able to do in Nagano. She has got only one triple jump left - 3 toe loop.
I think Tara blames herself for the fall (during practice) because she didn't take the proper time to warm-up and stretch before she went out and tried the jump she fell on. It was certainly a mistake to do that, but I would tell Tara, if I could, this: do not feel guilty for having had to learn one of life's lessons the hard way! Those kinds of lessons happened to me on a regular basis when I was sixteen, and are the reason I now thank God for getting me through my teenaged years alive and in one piece. Sixteen-year-olds all think they're indestructable!
The Tara Lipinski I know would gladly compete against any field of skaters the USFSA and ISU could put together on one sheet of ice. And if the love of those tens of thousands of children who come to see her on the SOI tour has the power to heal then Tara will be back to one hundred percent sometime very soon.
Lake Placid Mark
RoseC wrote:
I was just looking at the updated roster @http://www.usfsa.org/news/press/hersheys0301.html
Looks like Kristi's gonna be in it (!) and Michelle, lucky fans in
Binghamton!and on the men's side - Todd, Rudy, Alexei Y., Weiss, and Viktor
should be one of the better pro ams thats for sure
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Revjoelle
There are two reasons--one--she will be performing in Stars on Ice in Canada,
and two, she is not interested in skating in competitions with ISU rules any
longer.
>Tara hurt herself so badly in a fall last August
>that she still - in March 1999 - has not recovered, and cannot do all
>the jumps she was able to do in Nagano. She has got only one triple jump
>left - 3 toe loop.
Wow that's odd. I saw her do a triple flip, and a couple of triple salcaws and
loops in Omaha last month--and recently other folks saw her put a 3 lutz back
in her program in SOI.
>And if
>the love of those tens of thousands of children who come to see her on
>the SOI tour has the power to heal then Tara will be back to one hundred
>percent sometime very soon.
>
Um...this is a troll right?
Joelle
The amount of artistry a skater possesses correlates directly with how much you
like them.
Louis Epstein
:
: However:
: Tara won't be there (Hersheys Challange'99). I know the reason why,
: too, and I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this terrible thing
: that has happened. Tara hurt herself so badly in a fall last August
: that she still - in March 1999 - has not recovered, and cannot do all
: the jumps she was able to do in Nagano. She has got only one triple jump
: left - 3 toe loop.
: she didn't take the proper time to warm-up and stretch before she went
: out and tried the jump she fell on. It was certainly a mistake to do
: that, but I would tell Tara, if I could, this: do not feel guilty for
: having had to learn one of life's lessons the hard way! Those kinds of
: lessons happened to me on a regular basis when I was sixteen, and are
: the reason I now thank God for getting me through my teenaged years
: alive and in one piece. Sixteen-year-olds all think they're
: indestructable!
: The Tara Lipinski I know would gladly compete against any field of
: the love of those tens of thousands of children who come to see her on
: the SOI tour has the power to heal then Tara will be back to one hundred
: percent sometime very soon.
Just how well do you know Tara Lipinski,the skater who never competes
except as arranged by Mike Burg?
: Lake Placid Mark