Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
Pride
Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
I was wondering if anyone knows if the figure skater, Todd Elderedge
is gay? I know he luves alone in a three bedroom condo, and isn't
dating anyone. But that could easily be a coverup to his sexuality.
So I was wondering if anyone knew for sure if Todd is gay?
Thanks
Pride Gillis
lutz...@hotmail.com
On 29 Apr 1998 06:29:13 GMT, writ...@inside.net (Pride) wrote:
>
>Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
>
>I was wondering if anyone knows if the figure skater, Todd Elderedge
>is gay? I know he luves alone in a three bedroom condo, and isn't
>dating anyone. But that could easily be a coverup to his sexuality.
>
>So I was wondering if anyone knew for sure if Todd is gay?
Welcome to the end of the skating season....
Lutzloop
Cass3939
>Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
>
>I was wondering if anyone knows if the figure skater, Todd Elderedge
>is gay? I know he luves alone in a three bedroom condo, and isn't
>dating anyone. But that could easily be a coverup to his sexuality.
>
>So I was wondering if anyone knew for sure if Todd is gay?
:Welcome to the end of the skating season....
:Lutzloop
Well, I think we all needs a break from the tension from
the whole long season.
Revjoelle
All I know is that I don't believe I have ever seen him skate with a chair.
Joelle
"God must have a sense of humor." Kitty Carruthers.
Mary E Tyler
no, that would be truely terrible... but he has appeared in public with
chairs! like at the Olympics, he was at a chairasexula ORGY! everyone in
the stands was sitting in chairs! he even sat in a chair to watch others
skate. what a slut!
dejah, who is *sitting in a chair* RIGHT NOW!
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Karen
On 29 Apr 1998 06:29:13 GMT, writ...@inside.net (Pride) wrote:
>
>Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
Does it affect his skating if he is gay or not? I don't think so.
What difference does it make really? His (and every person in this
world) private life is his own.
Andrew Starr
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In article <6i6hbp$86k$4...@nnrp3.snfc21.pbi.net>, writ...@inside.net
(Pride) wrote:
> Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows if the figure skater, Todd Elderedge
> is gay? I know he luves alone in a three bedroom condo, and isn't
> dating anyone. But that could easily be a coverup to his sexuality.
>
> So I was wondering if anyone knew for sure if Todd is gay?
>
> Thanks
>
> Pride Gillis
>
> pr...@hotmail.com
Todd would be the best source of info on that.
But the issue is irrelevant to his skating.
--
Andrew Starr <mailto:ats...@negia.net>
Figure Skating Books: <http://www.negia.net/~atstarr/skatingbooks/>
mike
RJ wrote:
> Well since nobody seems to be able to ante up evidence that he ever
> had a girlfriend and the "inner circle" of this newsgroup is avoiding
> the question, I think we can just go ahead and assume he's gay.
> There's your answer.
There Richard goes again - ASSuming. Of course, he's only made an ass
out of himself this time. And since nobody seems to be able to ante up
any evidence to the contrary, we can just go ahead and assume he's a
biggot.
Mike
Louis Epstein
Pride (writ...@inside.net) wrote:
:
: Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
:
: I was wondering if anyone knows if the figure skater, Todd Elderedge
: is gay? I know he luves alone in a three bedroom condo, and isn't
: dating anyone. But that could easily be a coverup to his sexuality.
:
: So I was wondering if anyone knew for sure if Todd is gay?
You keep asking this question every so often and can't even spell
the man's name right.
ENOUGH ALREADY!
If he cared to have you know,you wouldn't have to ask.
Chelsea Christenson
Pride wrote:
>
> Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows if the figure skater, Todd Elderedge
> is gay? I know he luves alone in a three bedroom condo, and isn't
> dating anyone. But that could easily be a coverup to his sexuality.
>
> So I was wondering if anyone knew for sure if Todd is gay?
I was thinking there should be a rule that people who inquired into
someone's sex life should first have to post a complete list of their
own sexual encounters -- but I'd hate to think of what kind of people
that would attract and I really don't want to know about their sex lives
in the first place.
Maybe we should have a rule that any question about someone's sex life
is answered with an explanation of the difference between artistry and
presentation. If they persist, we explain how to identify jumps. If
they continue, we explain the scoring system. That'll learn 'em.
Robert Dister
> Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows if the figure skater, Todd Elderedge
> is gay? I know he luves alone in a three bedroom condo, and isn't
> dating anyone. But that could easily be a coverup to his sexuality.
>
> So I was wondering if anyone knew for sure if Todd is gay?
>
I think the fact that he luves alone in a three bedroom condo is definite
proof that he must be gay. I've never known anyone luving alone in a 3BR
that wasn't.
Kaiju
RJ wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:51:16 GMT, l...@put.com (Louis Epstein) wrote:
>
> >You keep asking this question every so often and can't even spell
> >the man's name right.
> >
> >ENOUGH ALREADY!
> >If he cared to have you know,you wouldn't have to ask.
>
> is why do most of you want to avoid this question? You people have a
> huge problem with trying to tell people what they can and can't talk
> about and what they can and can't say on this newsgroup. This is not a
> private newsgroup for a certain small group of people to control. It's
> for everyone to say whatever they want. Michael Jackson never had a
> girlfriend and he turned out to be gay. Todd Eldredge is 26 or 27 now.
> You can't tell people what they can't talk about. If you tell me not
> to talk about something, I'm going to talk about it 10 times more. To
> hell with a small group of people who have HUGE egos and think they
> own this newsgroup.
Yup. Any port in a storm, eh?
Kaiju
Revjoelle
> This is not a private newsgroup for a certain small group of people to
control. It's for everyone to say whatever they want.
That's right. Anyone can say whatever they want. They can even tell nosy
people to MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!
Margaret Burwell
Pride (writ...@inside.net) writes:
> Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows if the figure skater, Todd Elderedge
> is gay? I know he luves alone in a three bedroom condo, and isn't
> dating anyone. But that could easily be a coverup to his sexuality.
>
> So I was wondering if anyone knew for sure if Todd is gay?
Why do you think it important to know?
Marg
Tee
Naturally, that's how he functions.
(*oxymoronic statement on) but he's at that tender age (/oxymoronic
statement off)
Once you get used to it, you come to expect it.
Tee
>
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> >rdi...@spectacle.berkeley.edu (Robert Dister)wrote:
>
> >(Pride) wrote:
> >> Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
> >> I was wondering if anyone knows if the figure skater, Todd Elderedge is gay?
> I know he luves alone in a three bedroom condo, and isn't dating anyone. But
> that could easily be a coverup to his sexuality.
> >> So I was wondering if anyone knew for sure if Todd is gay?
>
> proof that he must be gay. I've never known anyone luving alone in a 3BR that
> wasn't.
>
Well, uh, I know some who live in one bedroom places...
by themselves! So, by your logic everyone who lives
by themself with one or more bedroom(s) - they must be gay!
Seriously though, who cares? It's none of our business.
Barbara Hoffman
Robert Dister wrote:
> I think the fact that he luves alone in a three bedroom condo is definite
> proof that he must be gay. I've never known anyone luving alone in a 3BR
> that wasn't.
Nonsense. Why would a gay man luve alone? Everyone knows that all male
skaters are gay; Elderage (the adult champion in the over-65 division) could
easily fill up those two extra bedrooms.
Elderage, Elderedge - could the original poster be Chuckie?
Barbara
"Eaten any good books lately?" - Q to Worf
Mary E Tyler
Chelsea Christenson wrote:
>
> Pride wrote:
> >
> > Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone knows if the figure skater, Todd Elderedge
> > dating anyone. But that could easily be a coverup to his sexuality.
> >
> > So I was wondering if anyone knew for sure if Todd is gay?
>
> someone's sex life should first have to post a complete list of their
> own sexual encounters -- but I'd hate to think of what kind of people
> that would attract and I really don't want to know about their sex lives
> in the first place.
>
> Maybe we should have a rule that any question about someone's sex life
> is answered with an explanation of the difference between artistry and
> presentation. If they persist, we explain how to identify jumps. If
> they continue, we explain the scoring system. That'll learn 'em.
what a great idea!!!
dejah
Mary E Tyler
> >> Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
> >> I was wondering if anyone knows if the figure skater, Todd Elderedge is gay?
> I know he luves alone in a three bedroom condo, and isn't dating anyone. But
> that could easily be a coverup to his sexuality.
> >> So I was wondering if anyone knew for sure if Todd is gay?
>
> proof that he must be gay. I've never known anyone luving alone in a 3BR that
> wasn't.
>
> tell me that people might *assume* I'm gay or at least partially gay (only two
> bedrooms, you know)! Quick - does anyone have the number of a real estate
> agent that can find me a one bedroom house (or an instant family)?
>
> Good thing that no one knows that I own <gasp>...chairs!
>
> Apologies for feeding any trolls. I couldn't resist.
>
> cybrdolfin, shrinking back to lurkdom
OH MY GOD TOO!
i live in a three bedroom house wiht my kid and a cat (that's alone
isn;t it?) somebody better tell my husband that i'm gay!
dejah, sigh.
CrnbrryMuf
>Michael Jackson never had a
>girlfriend and he turned out to be gay.
I thought that Michael Jackson was married and has two children?
Doesn't this prove that he is *NOT GAY* ( see, having a girlfriend or a wife or
kids is *supposed* to prove something, isn't it???) <sarcasm mode on>
Marty
Remember what Bambi's mother said
Revjoelle
So exactly how many bedrooms must one have to be gay?
Tee
RJ wrote:
No one 'knows' he 'just' wanted to have kids.
You only assume it, naturally.
Salster
>
>Everybody knows Michael Jackson just wanted to have kids.
>
is not a pedophile......
Salster
>
>People have a right to ask whatever question they want. The real issue
>is why do most of you want to avoid this question? You people have a
>huge problem with trying to tell people what they can and can't talk
>private newsgroup for a certain small group of people to control. It's
>girlfriend and he turned out to be gay. Todd Eldredge is 26 or 27 now.
>You can't tell people what they can't talk about. If you tell me not
>to talk about something, I'm going to talk about it 10 times more. To
>hell with a small group of people who have HUGE egos and think they
>own this newsgroup.
>
>from a wall.
>
AGREED!!!!!!
Toriadore
Gee, can't you people come up with better stereotypes????
What importance is it whether a skater is gay or straight. "Don't ask, don't
tell!!!"
And for someone to say that ALL male figure skaters are gay....I HOPE that was
said in a sarcastic way. The skating world is probably like the rest of the
world, a certain % of the population is gay. Hey that's life folks!!!
ENJOY the final days of this figure skating season.
By the way, anyone have a 3 bedroom apartment available?????
(hehehe)
ZitoFive
<<< Well since nobody seems to be able to ante up evidence that he ever had a
girlfriend >>>
Hey now! What about Tara? J.k.
~~~~~~~~~~
GO SURYA!
LSCHRIS
Okay first off, whoever busted out micheal jackson as poster child for not
being gay"BAD CHOICE". Micheal is a pyscho nut who needs to be carted off to
Charter by the sea in a "I love me" jacket.
As for Todd being gay.........maybe the man just likes his love life to remain
private, just because he does talk about having a girlfriend doesn't mean he
doesn't have or have had one. IMHO I dont think he is gay or at least he
doesnt seem gay.
lschris
Chelsea Christenson
Robert Dister wrote:
> I think the fact that he luves alone in a three bedroom condo is
> definite proof that he must be gay. I've never known anyone luving
> alone in a 3BR that wasn't.
Well, now you have. Except that I have a house and I share it with
three cats, so it's not _exactly_ the same thing. But close enough.
A friend also lived alone in a three-bedroom house with cats, but then
he got married and moved. I think they have four bedrooms now.
Another friend was living alone in a house that originally had four
bedrooms, but they combined two small ones, but now his fiancee has
moved in. And two cats.
Another friend lives alone, but I think it's a four-bedroom house and
I'm not positive that his girlfriend hasn't moved in. He likes cats but
I don't think he has any. Yet.
Virginia Blalock
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:30:21 GMT, lhu...@webrider.net.au (RJ) wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:51:16 GMT, l...@put.com (Louis Epstein) wrote:
>People have a right to ask whatever question they want. The real issue
>is why do most of you want to avoid this question? You people have a
>huge problem with trying to tell people what they can and can't talk
>about and what they can and can't say on this newsgroup. This is not a
>private newsgroup for a certain small group of people to control. It's
>for everyone to say whatever they want. Michael Jackson never had a
>girlfriend and he turned out to be gay. Todd Eldredge is 26 or 27 now.
>You can't tell people what they can't talk about. If you tell me not
>to talk about something, I'm going to talk about it 10 times more. To
>hell with a small group of people who have HUGE egos and think they
>own this newsgroup.
Ok, in this vein.. Richard, are you a pedophile? How old are you? You
sure like Tara a lot. Should she be concerned about that? Hey, I can
ask anything I want, right?
>By the way, those chair "jokes" are as funny as watching paint peeling
>from a wall.
As are your posts.
Virginia
Visit my skating page:
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Arena/9508
Virginia Blalock
On 29 Apr 1998 11:14:29 GMT, revj...@aol.com (Revjoelle) wrote:
>All I know is that I don't believe I have ever seen him skate with a chair.
Oh, but Joelle.. Todd is a private person. He probably would only
privately practice with the chair and would be too shy to actually go
in front of an audience with one. Don't we all really suspect Todd is
a closet chairasexual???
Virginia Blalock
On 29 Apr 1998 17:52:26 GMT, revj...@aol.com (Revjoelle) wrote:
>So exactly how many bedrooms must one have to be gay?
Hmm.. maybe I will surf to the Human Rights Campaign web site(they are
a gay rights group). Surely they have this info handy, huh?
Virginia Blalock
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:08:54 +0000, mike <mjdu...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>RJ wrote:
>
>> Well since nobody seems to be able to ante up evidence that he ever
>> the question, I think we can just go ahead and assume he's gay.
>> There's your answer.
>
>There Richard goes again - ASSuming. Of course, he's only made an ass
>out of himself this time. And since nobody seems to be able to ante up
>any evidence to the contrary, we can just go ahead and assume he's a
>biggot.
LOL! We can also assume he's an idiot<g>.
Virginia Blalock
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:02:09 GMT, lutz...@hotmail.com wrote:
>On 29 Apr 1998 06:29:13 GMT, writ...@inside.net (Pride) wrote:
>
>>
>>Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
>>
>>I was wondering if anyone knows if the figure skater, Todd Elderedge
>>
>>So I was wondering if anyone knew for sure if Todd is gay?
>
Good way to put it! :) I never knew living alone was a pretense for
being gay. LEarn something new every day<g>.
Gub...@webtv.net
I live alone in a 3 bedroom condo & I'm not gay,
but I do hide a dirty little secret......I own 10 chairs!!!!!!!!
bondja...@webtv.net
What's your point? Does it matter to anyone? I think not...Doraine
FranBuhman
lschris writes:
>As for Todd being gay.........maybe the man just likes his love life to
>remain
>private, just because he does talk about having a girlfriend doesn't mean he
>doesn't have or have had one. IMHO I dont think he is gay or at least he
>doesnt seem gay.
Not that it matters diddly-squat in the scheme of things, but just to set the
record straight (no pun intended), Todd is definitely not gay.
Fran
FranB...@aol.com
>
"The next time you hear someone say skaters aren't athletes, tell them about
Todd Eldredge!" Harry Gleeson, announcer at 1997 Skate America
The Unofficial Todd Eldredge Home Page
http://members.aol.com/toddehome/todd.html
Mary E Tyler
RJ wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:18:49 GMT, skat...@usa.net (Virginia Blalock)
> wrote:
>
> >LOL! We can also assume he's an idiot<g>.
>
okay, so he's an idiot savant.
dejah, 153
Mary E Tyler
ZitoFive wrote:
>
> <<< Well since nobody seems to be able to ante up evidence that he ever had a
> girlfriend >>>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~
> GO SURYA!
all threads return to tara!
dejah
Skt302
>From: franb...@aol.com
>Todd is definitely not gay.
>
>
Why have you had sex with him or observed females who have?
<G>
Jane
Skt...@aol.com
HOlson1046
Who cares?!
Christopher R. Carlen
Gub...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> I live alone in a 3 bedroom condo & I'm not gay,
> but I do hide a dirty little secret......I own 10 chairs!!!!!!!!
Oh my gosh!!! COUNTLESS psychological deductions about your sexuality
can be made from this data, of course. <j> The fact that the number of
chairs is not an integer multiple of the number of rooms is a dead
givaway that there is something very wrong with this picture!
_______________________
Christopher R. Carlen
cr...@epix.net <--- Reply here, please.
car...@cs.moravian.edu
My OS is Linux v2
colette
In article <6i7l4j$q...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>, lhu...@webrider.net.au
(RJ) wrote:
]On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:51:16 GMT, l...@put.com (Louis Epstein) wrote:
]
]>You keep asking this question every so often and can't even spell
]>the man's name right.
]>
]>ENOUGH ALREADY!
]>If he cared to have you know,you wouldn't have to ask.
]
]People have a right to ask whatever question they want.
Yep. They definitely do. Other people also have a right
to say, in response, "You're a lame-ass idiot" or "Sexual
orientation is completely unimportant to whether or not
you can do a double-axel."
Freedom rocks.
Barbara Hoffman
RJ wrote:
>...my IQ is 130.
I have no idea what my IQ is - does everyone else know his or hers? If I
just pick a number, should I try to work my chosen IQ into a conversation or
should I wait for someone to ask?
There are only three chairs in my one-bedroom apartment, two upholstered and
one wood. I do have a luveseat. Please let me know whether I'm gay and
whether I should try to work this information into a conversation or wait
for someone to ask.
Barbara
"Eaten any good books lately." - Q to Worf
COHomes4U
>RJ wrote:
>
>>...my IQ is 130.
and Barbara Hoffman (bar...@erols.com) wrote:
>I have no idea what my IQ is - does everyone else know his or hers? If I
>just pick a number, should I try to work my chosen IQ into a conversation or
>should I wait for someone to ask?
>
>There are only three chairs in my one-bedroom apartment, two upholstered and
>one wood. I do have a luveseat. Please let me know whether I'm gay and
>whether I should try to work this information into a conversation or wait
>for someone to ask.
>
>Barbara
3 chairs, 1 bedroom, 1 luveseat . . . hmmmm. . . that could mean something.
Then again, it could mean nothing. Then again, it could mean that your IQ is a
factor of some incredibly complex mathematical formula involving the # of
bedrooms and chairs you have, multiplied by your row and seat # for COI and
SOI, and divided by the number of skating tapes you own..
Then again, it could mean nothing.
But in any case, I think you should bring it up whenever you feel the need to
discuss it.
LuEllen, 3 bedrooms, 8 chairs, a luveseat, 2 cats and a husband, and no clue
what her IQ is, or what any of this means.
Chuckg
RJ wrote in message <6i86gb$r...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:18:49 GMT, skat...@usa.net (Virginia Blalock)
>wrote:
>
>>LOL! We can also assume he's an idiot<g>.
>
>No, my IQ is 130.
Really? Depending on which set of test results I want to believe, my IQ is
either 147, 160, or 120. There were three different test runs -- one in junior
high school, one on my entrance exams into the service (General Classification
Test score), and another one several years from the Navy medical boards.
However, regardless of what the scores said on any given day, I haven't noticed
any significant change in my ability to think throughout my entire life.
The moral of this (excessively lengthy) story is that IQ test scores don't
necessarily mean anything.
Like every other measurement, there is a margin of error involved.
--
Chuckg
Jessica Kalal
Robert Dister wrote:
> I think the fact that he luves alone in a three bedroom condo is definite
> proof that he must be gay. I've never known anyone luving alone in a 3BR
> that wasn't.
LOL. well since you know every single person who has ever lived alone in a
3 BR home then you obviously know the truth. I've known several people who
have lived all alone in big homes who aren't gay. Skaters, especially well
known eligible skaters, rarely have the time to have a serious relationship
with anyone, hetero or homo, so why is it soo unusual for anybody to live
alone in a nice home if they have the money for it? And why does that
autimatically make them gay?
Jess
Skt302
>RCWar...@nospam.hotmail.com (RJ)
>Are women trying to avoid this issue of which male
>figure skaters are gay because it would spoil their sexual fantasies?
Yes and that it would upset there straight laced principles about how and what
skating is suppose to be...good,clean and superior to any other sport. I do
believe that Todd's gayness would really bother most of these "regulars" on the
board and that's why they pretend to hide behind their stupid chair jokes or
now the "how many bedrooms does it take" jokes.
>I couldn't stand to read any of Dejah's stories
>because they talk about men's butts and so on. It was like soft core
>pornography for women. I guess Dejah spends all day sexually
>fantasizing and writing
Yeah but they will comment on how stupid or unhappy you are yet this person
sits at a computer to write this shit and the little jacket twits go "Yeah,
Yeah"...they are pathetic.
>Also, some of you guys are supposed to be experts on Todd. So name one
>girlfriend that he had.
>
>
Richard when he dresses up nice. <G>
Tee
RJ wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:03:43 -0400, Tee <z...@ix.netcom.com.nospam>
> wrote:
>
> >No one 'knows' he 'just' wanted to have kids.
> >You only assume it, naturally.
>
> Last time I heard, he didn't sleep with his wife. He just used her to
> have babies with. I could go do research to confirm this, but I don't
> want to waste my time just to argue with some JERKS on this newsgroup
Heh. Of course you think anybody who dissents with your
opinion are JERKS. How old are you, 12?
YuhMinL
>Here's a question: Are women trying to avoid this issue of which male
>figure skaters are gay because it would spoil their sexual fantasies?
No, many women AND men on this board try to avoid these issues because they do
not affect us in any way DIRECTLY and it is NONE of our business because none
of us are close to Todd in any way. Not close enough to know his sexual
preferences, anyway. What your 130 IQ failed to let you figure out is that
maybe, just maybe, no one has the right ot talk about or assume that Todd is
gay from stupid, irrelevent assumptions. Unless I've been wrong for most of my
life, what happens in YOUR life is YOUR business, especially personal stuff
like who you have sex with. He's a very busy man, and if everyone who has busy
lives and is single is gay, then that means homosexuals are actually a MAJORITY
of the population. So it's not that we try to avoid it, it's that we don't
care about the topic ourselves and it wouldn't matter to us if Todd was gay or
not.
JACRx
EXCUSE ME GROUP , PLEASE , BUT RJ FUCK OFF!!!
Robert Dister
Sometimes I can't resist not putting in a ;) with my thinly veiled
sarcasm. I just thought that the original troll was unusually loopy in
mentioning that Todd lives in a 3BR condo. Beats the hell out of me why
"Pride" felt compelled to post how many bedrooms are in Todd's condo, or
why it makes him more likely to be gay. Gay music or choreography, gay
mannerisms, gay friends, gay haircuts, good taste in clothes or furniture,
spirited defenses of Oscar Wilde or George Michael, and now 3BR condos! I
thought it was bizarre that Pride even knew and remembered this as yet
another way to raise suspicions of gay sexual orientation. Is he in the
real estate biz or something?
Bob D. Who really doesn't care whether or not Todd is gay (or if Tara
shows her navel), but who nevertheless enjoys the weird tangents this ng
can take when there is no more skating to discuss......
Chelsea Christenson
RJ wrote:
> I have news for you, you're the one with a problem, not me.
Oh, dear, it's not nice to put temptation in people's way like that. I
have _such_ a hard time resisting a such a perfect setup.
Chelsea Christenson
RJ wrote:
> I'm just saying it's annoying for some people on this newsgroup trying
> to squash this question.
It's also annoying to see this question and its assorted variations show
up over and over and over again. If it gets discussed in the FAQ,
that's a good sign people's tolerance is pretty low.
Jessica Kalal
RJ wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:18:49 GMT, skat...@usa.net (Virginia Blalock)
> wrote:
>
> >LOL! We can also assume he's an idiot<g>.
>
> No, my IQ is 130.
um..you can be an idiot and have a high IQ. You just can't be an idiot
savant, which is not what she suggested :-)
Jess
Jessica Kalal
RJ wrote:
> On 29 Apr 1998 19:17:19 GMT, tori...@aol.com (Toriadore) wrote:
>
> >Gee, can't you people come up with better stereotypes????
> >
> >What importance is it whether a skater is gay or straight. "Don't ask, don't
> >tell!!!"
>
> Well I think you people are treating being gay like it is a crime:
> something you want to keep secret. Isn't it bigoted to act like being
> gay is something to be ashamed of?
It isn't that at all RJ, at least not from my POV. I'm just trying to keep
something private that Todd (or any other person) hasn't publicized. If Todd came
out tomorrow and said "gee everyone, I'm gay." Fine, good. I don't care. Then it's
public and then the public can talk about it if they absolutely must. I certainly
have no problem with gay skaters or dancers or anyother gay person (okay I'm
really starting to hate this word), but I do respect people's privacy - especially
people in the public eye - and so far Todd has NOT said one way or another so I'm
not gonna question it. It's none of our business. He obviously thinks it's none of
our business or else he'd have said something about it like Rudy did so we should
respect that. That's all.
Jess
Gub...@webtv.net
Skt302 -
I have personally observed Todd sitting in a chair. I even have several
tapes of him engaging in this activity in public! Unfortunately
I have never had any chairasexual experience with him .
Looks like his chairasexual lifestyle is out of the closet.
RAND
I am gay, but I only have a one bedroom apartment. Does this mean Todd
is getting three times the action I am?
later
asedai
BTW, even though I know the answer, I ain't telling!!
Sarah Weinman
FranBuhman wrote:
Not that it matters diddly-squat in the scheme of things, but just to set the
> record straight (no pun intended), Todd is definitely not gay.
>
> Fran, I admire you. I mean, Todd seems to be the subject of so much
> speculation, and it's a shame. That you would keep clarifying his position is
> commendable.
That's the problem with keeping your private life private.....;-P
Sarah
Trudi Marrapodi
In article <199804291712...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
cybrd...@aol.com (Cybrdolfin) wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> >rdi...@spectacle.berkeley.edu (Robert Dister)wrote:
>
> >(Pride) wrote:
> >> Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
> >> I was wondering if anyone knows if the figure skater, Todd Elderedge
is gay?
> I know he luves alone in a three bedroom condo, and isn't dating anyone. But
> that could easily be a coverup to his sexuality.
> >> So I was wondering if anyone knew for sure if Todd is gay?
>
> >I think the fact that he luves alone in a three bedroom condo is definite
> proof that he must be gay. I've never known anyone luving alone in a 3BR that
> wasn't.
>
>
> *Omigawd* I'm living alone in a two bedroom house. My real estate agent
didn't
> tell me that people might *assume* I'm gay or at least partially gay (only two
> bedrooms, you know)! Quick - does anyone have the number of a real estate
> agent that can find me a one bedroom house (or an instant family)?
>
> Good thing that no one knows that I own <gasp>...chairs!
>
> Apologies for feeding any trolls. I couldn't resist.
>
> cybrdolfin, shrinking back to lurkdom
Gosh. I live alone in a one-bedroom apartment with two rooms besides the
living room, kitchen and bathroom, one of which has all my skating stuff
in it.
I guess that must make me at *least* bisexual!
And when I think of all the CHAIRS I own...and two barstools besides!...
Trudi Marrapodi
In article <199804291752...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
revj...@aol.com (Revjoelle) wrote:
> So exactly how many bedrooms must one have to be gay?
>
> Joelle
Only one--but if there's a hot young stud in it and you're male and you're
excited about it, well, I got news for ya, kiddo.
Or at least that's what Rudy Galindo told me.
Trudi Marrapodi
In article <6i7pen$b...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
RCWar...@nospam.hotmail.com (RJ) wrote:
> On 29 Apr 1998 17:33:35 GMT, crnbr...@aol.com (CrnbrryMuf) wrote:
>
> >>Michael Jackson never had a
> >>girlfriend and he turned out to be gay.
> >
> >
> > I thought that Michael Jackson was married and has two children?
> >Doesn't this prove that he is *NOT GAY* ( see, having a girlfriend or a
wife or
> >kids is *supposed* to prove something, isn't it???) <sarcasm mode on>
> >
> > Marty
> >Remember what Bambi's mother said
>
> Everybody knows Michael Jackson just wanted to have kids.
Well, that's one way of putting it.
Trudi Marrapodi
In article <199804291733...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
crnbr...@aol.com (CrnbrryMuf) wrote:
> >Michael Jackson never had a
> >girlfriend and he turned out to be gay.
>
>
> I thought that Michael Jackson was married and has two children?
> Doesn't this prove that he is *NOT GAY* ( see, having a girlfriend or a
wife or
> kids is *supposed* to prove something, isn't it???) <sarcasm mode on>
>
> Marty
> Remember what Bambi's mother said
Uh, "Marty," ever since you wrote me a hate letter to my Orser newsletter
several years ago and mailed it from another name ("Maureen Davis") and
another city in Maryland (Lynch, I believe), I've been meaning to tell
you: that wasn't Bambi's mother who said "If you can't say anything nice,
don't say anything at all." It was THUMPER's mother. (And then you
proceeded to tell me one of my writers "dripped venom off the page" every
time she wrote for my newsletter.)
Besides, why take the advice of Bambi's mother? Didn't she get shot?
Kaiju
RJ wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:18:49 GMT, skat...@usa.net (Virginia Blalock)
> wrote:
>
> >LOL! We can also assume he's an idiot<g>.
>
> No, my IQ is 130.
Hmmmm....further proof that IQ measurements are not worth much.
Kaiju
Mary E Tyler
RJ wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:50:41 -0400, Mary E Tyler
> <dej...@nospam.erols.com> wrote:
>
> >okay, so he's an idiot savant.
>
> This is the kind of hypocrisy I mentioned before. You people act like
> I'm so terrible and then you go attacking me with insults. I have news
> for you, you're the one with a problem, not me. It's like it's OK for
> a certain group of people here to make as many nasty comments as they
> want, but when someone else says something that is considered
> offensive, you label them a troll. You're trying to make me go away by
> flaming me. The idea that you are a group of refined and genteel
> people is B.S. because you've flamed Tara Lipinski forever, and before
> that you flamed Oksana Baiul for the same reasons. I've been doing
> some reading on Deja News and I saw what's been going on.
i am very proud to be the one with the problem...
dejah, only two original spelling mistakes in that sentence!
--
to reply, delete nospam
i trust i make myself obscure, i have need of obscurity now- robert bolt
a heated exchange of unread mail would be welcomed by all- christensen
On The Edge:A Skating Melodrama is Copyright 1998, Mary E Tyler. All
Rights Reserved
Trudi Marrapodi
Gosh, I wonder if you guys who want to psychoanalyze all us women on this
newsgroup for not wanting to speculate on which skaters are gay could
stand up to it if we all tried to psychoanalyze *you* and *your*
motivations for wanting to talk about it...
"Gosh. RCWarbirds seems to have an obsession with dejah. Obviously he's
got a sick obsession with her, probably instigated by feelings of sexual
inadequacy in real life..."
"And how about that guy who backed him up on wanting to sniff out the
gays? No, not Pride, the other one. Hmm, I wonder why he wants this
information so badly? It couldn't be because he *himself* is...NAAH! Of
course not! Then again..."
How does that noose feel tied around your own necks, boys? :-)
Says the person who doesn't need to fantasize about any skaters, because
fantasizing about the guys in my real world is frustrating enough...
Mary E Tyler
RJ wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:21:49 -0400, Barbara Hoffman
> <bar...@erols.com> wrote:
>
> >There are only three chairs in my one-bedroom apartment, two upholstered and
> >one wood. I do have a luveseat. Please let me know whether I'm gay and
> >whether I should try to work this information into a conversation or wait
> >for someone to ask.
>
> figure skaters are gay because it would spoil their sexual fantasies?
> talking about it. I couldn't stand to read any of Dejah's stories
> because they talk about men's butts and so on. It was like soft core
> pornography for women. I guess Dejah spends all day sexually
> wants to deny as much as possible the idea of any of them being gay. I
> read on Deja News a message from a gay guy who said certain figure
> skaters were gay but the women tried to make him shut up.
>
> Also, some of you guys are supposed to be experts on Todd. So name one
> girlfriend that he had.
of course if you know so much about what my novel is about.. you must be
reading it. please stop.
it is soft core pornography for women, feeling discriminated against...
ohh poor baby. at least it's well written soft core pornography...
oh and BTW, i just did a word search of my whole 486 page document the
word butt appears exactly twice once in "and we all fell on our butts"
and "Mama butt out."
i'm into arms.
dejah, aka judge #5
technical 2.3
presentation and style: 2.3
ordinal: 25
opps you didn't qualify
ps- now i've treated you like you are a troll.
mike
Richard - Here's your first problem:
> RJ wrote:
> I think we can just go ahead and assume he's gay.
Don't "assume" for me - or anyone else on this newsgroup. Your assessment
of Todd's life is your own - so keep it that way.
> There's your answer.
It's not "my" answer or "our" answer. No one here even asked the question
- YOU did.
Mike
Kaiju
Shushun0va wrote:
>
> Fine, the truth must be told: Todd and I have been secretly dating.
Jam! You weren't supposed to tell that secret! Todd's gonna be pissed off at
you!
Tsk.
Kaiju
Kaiju
Dulcinea West wrote:
>
> LSCHRIS <lsc...@aol.com> wrote:
> >oops i meant to say just because he doesnt talk about having a girlfriend not
> >does. Also living in 3bedroom condo by yourself does not mean your gay sheesh
> >thats dumbest thing i've heard
>
> I have a 3 bedroom house by myself. Does that make me a lesbian?
> What about if I get that deck addition I'm considering?
>
> Please advise.
All is lost, Dulcinea. The planned deck is a dead giveaway. You might have
passed muster with just the three bedroom house.
Don't plan to join the Armed Services now. You wouldn't have to tell. They'd
know!
Kaiju <the size of whose house shall remain private...or otherwise a closet
housesexual...>
Cassandra Glockner
This is a really simple question to answer, but you need to know if the
original poster is male or female.
If the original poster is male, he is just jealous that so many women
would be interested in Todd Eldredge when he probably is a jerk who
couldn't get a woman if he paid her. So he tries to turn women off Todd
by telling everyone (or at leat planting the idea in a woman's mind)
that Todd Eldrege is gay.
If the original poster is female, she may want to know if he's
homosexual or heterosexual to find out if she could have a chance with
Todd That, of course, is a ridiculous idea. Why would anyone in the
public eye be interested in a fan? They would have to know that the fan
would not be interested in the person, but the celebrity and the bank
account.
Either way, this is utterly ridiculous.
Cassandra
BTW, I have a question for anyone who might think they know how to tell
whether a person is hetero-, homo-, or bisexual.
My best friend (male) lives alone, in a one bedroom apartment, with a
cat. Is he gay?
My father-in-law, separated, lives in a three bedroom house with another
man (they sleep in separate bedrooms). He has a dog (part German
shepard, part Basset hound). Is he gay?
Or are neither gay? Are both gay? If you think you know the answers,
please e-mail me. Maybe I'll let you know the answers.
Jessica Kalal
Ahh. I apologize then Robert. I've been having a rough week as far as coherentness
<g>.
Jess
Virginia Blalock
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:27:17 GMT, RCWar...@nospam.hotmail.com (RJ)
wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:21:49 -0400, Barbara Hoffman
><bar...@erols.com> wrote:
>
>>There are only three chairs in my one-bedroom apartment, two upholstered and
>>one wood. I do have a luveseat. Please let me know whether I'm gay and
>>whether I should try to work this information into a conversation or wait
>>for someone to ask.
>
>Here's a question: Are women trying to avoid this issue of which male
>figure skaters are gay because it would spoil their sexual fantasies?
It has nothing to do with sexual fantasies of mine and most others I
would assume. I am married and have no romantic/sexual interest in
Todd. However, as a fan I like to see his and other skater's privacy
respected. Being a public figure does not mean that everyone should
know everything about them.
>Also, some of you guys are supposed to be experts on Todd. So name one
>girlfriend that he had.
Expert is a relative term. Ruth and John Eldredge are Todd experts. I
am not and most of his fans are not, really in a real sense. Unless
Todd or any other person admits to personal information publically, we
don't know. We can't assume someone is gay or not gay just because the
person chooses to keep their private life private.
Virginia
Visit my skating page:
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Arena/9508
Virginia Blalock
On 29 Apr 1998 21:45:15 GMT, franb...@aol.com (FranBuhman) wrote:
>lschris writes:
>
>>As for Todd being gay.........maybe the man just likes his love life to
>>remain
>>private, just because he does talk about having a girlfriend doesn't mean he
>>doesn't have or have had one. IMHO I dont think he is gay or at least he
>>doesnt seem gay.
>
>Not that it matters diddly-squat in the scheme of things, but just to set the
>record straight (no pun intended), Todd is definitely not gay.
Well, the info matters only in that maybe some people will shut up
about it now<g>.
Now of course the question is: how many idiots are gonna *still* gonna
try and refute it<g>?
Second point not related to Todd specifically but in general:
I imagine lots of skaters(and other famous people) don't mind as much
people knowing their sexual orientation as much as they may mind what
affect it may have in people trying to pry in their private life.
In the case of male skaters, how can it feel for a girlfriend of
theirs to be possibly showcased as a trophy for the skater's
heterosexuality because of the stupid sterotypes in skating? It may
be that Todd and other male skaters not only don't want to showcase
their girlfriends in this way but also that they want to keep their
private life away from the rink.
Virginia Blalock
On 29 Apr 1998 21:52:19 GMT, skt...@aol.com (Skt302) wrote:
>>From: franb...@aol.com
>>Todd is definitely not gay.
>>
>>
>
><G>
Sexual behavior does not equal sexual orientation. Virgins still have
a sexual orientation.
Virginia Blalock
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:32:02 GMT, RCWar...@nospam.hotmail.com (RJ)
wrote:
>On 29 Apr 1998 19:17:19 GMT, tori...@aol.com (Toriadore) wrote:
>
>>Gee, can't you people come up with better stereotypes????
>>
>>What importance is it whether a skater is gay or straight. "Don't ask, don't
>>tell!!!"
>
>Well I think you people are treating being gay like it is a crime:
>something you want to keep secret. Isn't it bigoted to act like being
>gay is something to be ashamed of?
Being gay is nothing to be ashamed of. However, in North American
society, being gay still has a stigma attached. Stupid, but true. The
issue is whether a personal tidbit about someone should be assumed or
not assumed when we really don't know any real facts at all.
Virginia Blalock
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:26:44 GMT, RCWar...@nospam.hotmail.com (RJ)
wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:18:49 GMT, skat...@usa.net (Virginia Blalock)
>wrote:
>
>>LOL! We can also assume he's an idiot<g>.
>
>No, my IQ is 130.
Is that negative or positive?
Virginia Blalock
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:37:15 -0400, Gub...@webtv.net wrote:
>I live alone in a 3 bedroom condo & I'm not gay,
>but I do hide a dirty little secret......I own 10 chairs!!!!!!!!
Ah-ha! The orgy type you are, huh?? :)
Virginia Blalock
>Gosh. I live alone in a one-bedroom apartment with two rooms besides the
>living room, kitchen and bathroom, one of which has all my skating stuff
>in it.
>
>I guess that must make me at *least* bisexual!
>
>And when I think of all the CHAIRS I own...and two barstools besides!...
This leads to only one question.. have you and Nicole Bobek gotten
together for fun!??? ;)
Virginia Blalock
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:48:17 -0700, rdi...@spectacle.berkeley.edu
(Robert Dister) wrote:
>Sometimes I can't resist not putting in a ;) with my thinly veiled
>sarcasm. I just thought that the original troll was unusually loopy in
>mentioning that Todd lives in a 3BR condo. Beats the hell out of me why
>"Pride" felt compelled to post how many bedrooms are in Todd's condo, or
>why it makes him more likely to be gay. Gay music or choreography, gay
>mannerisms, gay friends, gay haircuts, good taste in clothes or furniture,
>spirited defenses of Oscar Wilde or George Michael, and now 3BR condos! I
>thought it was bizarre that Pride even knew and remembered this as yet
>another way to raise suspicions of gay sexual orientation. Is he in the
>real estate biz or something?
Oh, please.. we all know the one true sign of male gayness.. and
affinity for Judy Garland! Of course an affinity for show tunes
doesn't hurt, either. Geez, people, get some brains! :)
Chuckg
Kalvin Yu wrote in message <3548B7...@ix.netcom.com>...
>> I think the fact that he luves alone in a three bedroom condo is definite
>> proof that he must be gay. I've never known anyone luving alone in a 3BR
>> that wasn't.
>
>Umm. As a member of the male species, I have to apologize for these
>inane posts. Guys aren't really this stupid. Really.
As a fellow member of the male gender, I thank you.
--
Chuckg
Kalvin Yu
As for Todd being gay.........maybe the man just likes his love life to
remain
private, just because he does talk about having a girlfriend doesn't
mean he
doesn't have or have had one. IMHO I dont think he is gay or at least
he
doesnt seem gay.
lschris
************
Yeah, he certainly doesn't seem gay.
And we all know that every gay man has limp wrists, talks in lisps, and,
uh, figure skates. Thank God for these tell-all signs, otherwise we
wouldn't know who is sleeping with whom... and we just NEED to know that
information.
--Kalvin
Kalvin Yu
> I think the fact that he luves alone in a three bedroom condo is definite
> proof that he must be gay. I've never known anyone luving alone in a 3BR
> that wasn't.
Umm. As a member of the male species, I have to apologize for these
inane posts. Guys aren't really this stupid. Really.
--Kalvin
LSCHRIS
oops i meant to say just because he doesnt talk about having a girlfriend not
does. Also living in 3bedroom condo by yourself does not mean your gay sheesh
thats dumbest thing i've heard
Miles Humphrey
i have no idea if Todd is gay or not, and I don't care. However, I
would like to point out that whether he has had a girlfriend or not
does not indicate hetero/homosexuality. Michelle Kwan has never had a
boyfriend, and Tara doesn't currently (and do you really think she ever
had a serious boyfriend?). Skating takes a lot of time, and some
people just don't have time to date, or aren't attracted to they people
they're around 24-7 and they don't have time to meet other people.
Shushun0va
Fine, the truth must be told: Todd and I have been secretly dating.
Jam
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PosterBoy
bondja...@webtv.net wrote in message
<6i820i$sml$1...@newsd-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
What's your point? Does it matter to anyone? I think not...Doraine
Please....what exactly are you talking about? Quotes, please.
Thanks.
LD400
In article <6i6hbp$86k$4...@nnrp3.snfc21.pbi.net>, writ...@inside.net (Pride)
writes:
>So I was wondering if anyone knew for sure if Todd is gay?
Lets get ready to ruuuummmmbbbblllleeee!!!!! Let the flame war begin. This
is better "viewing" than Jerry Springer!
Larry
Mary E Tyler
aren't you a little young JAM?
dejah, who's much closer to todd's age
Margaret Burwell
Virginia Blalock (skat...@usa.net) writes about chairs and barstools:
>
> This leads to only one question.. have you and Nicole Bobek gotten
> together for fun!??? ;)
>
> Virginia
> Visit my skating page:
> http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Arena/9508
Omigosh! A menage a trois!
Marg
Tanya....@cpmx.saic.com
In article <35477E...@xusx.oracle.com>,
Chelsea Christenson <cchr...@xusx.oracle.com> wrote:
>
> Robert Dister wrote:
>
> > I think the fact that he luves alone in a three bedroom condo is
> > definite proof that he must be gay. I've never known anyone luving
> > alone in a 3BR that wasn't.
>
> three cats, so it's not _exactly_ the same thing. But close enough.
>
> A friend also lived alone in a three-bedroom house with cats, but then
> he got married and moved. I think they have four bedrooms now.
>
> Another friend was living alone in a house that originally had four
> bedrooms, but they combined two small ones, but now his fiancee has
> moved in. And two cats.
>
> Another friend lives alone, but I think it's a four-bedroom house and
> I'm not positive that his girlfriend hasn't moved in. He likes cats but
> I don't think he has any. Yet.
>
Hmm...This adds a new twist to the equation. What relationship do the cats
have to their owners being gay or not?
And even more worrying, I live alone in a 3 bedroom house with one cat and one
... *dramatic pause* DOG (oh no!)...I own several chairs AND I'm unattached!
Tanya
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NLGHAtc
Question for Mr Dister: Since I live in a six bedroom group house with five
otehr people, does that mean I am not Gay?
TC
>
>Robert Dister wrote:
>
>> I think the fact that he luves alone in a three bedroom condo is
>> definite proof that he must be gay. I've never known anyone luving
>> alone in a 3BR that wasn't.
>
>Well, now you have. Except that I have a house and I share it with
>three cats, so it's not _exactly_ the same thing. But close enough.
>
>A friend also lived alone in a three-bedroom house with cats, but then
>he got married and moved. I think they have four bedrooms now.
>
>Another friend was living alone in a house that originally had four
>bedrooms, but they combined two small ones, but now his fiancee has
>moved in. And two cats.
>
>Another friend lives alone, but I think it's a four-bedroom house and
>I'm not positive that his girlfriend hasn't moved in. He likes cats but
>I don't think he has any. Yet.
></PRE></HTML>
HOlson1046
<<Lets get ready to ruuuummmmbbbblllleeee!!!!! Let the flame war begin. This
is better "viewing" than Jerry Springer!>>
Nothing is better viewing than Jerry Springer!! LOL!! Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.
LSCHRIS
In the words of shakespear ( sorry im spelling challenged)
" Two extra bedrooms and some chairs does not a gay man make"
lschris
cezar...@easypower.com
>
> > I think the fact that he luves alone in a three bedroom condo is
> > definite proof that he must be gay. I've never known anyone luving
> > alone in a 3BR that wasn't.
>
> Well, now you have. Except that I have a house and I share it with
> three cats, so it's not _exactly_ the same thing. But close enough.
>
> A friend also lived alone in a three-bedroom house with cats, but then
> he got married and moved. I think they have four bedrooms now.
>
> Another friend was living alone in a house that originally had four
> bedrooms, but they combined two small ones, but now his fiancee has
> moved in. And two cats.
>
> Another friend lives alone, but I think it's a four-bedroom house and
> I'm not positive that his girlfriend hasn't moved in. He likes cats but
> I don't think he has any. Yet.
>
Well, if you can afford to live in four bedrooms by yourself, that's great!
The more the better. One bedroom for the bed, one for the office,
one for home theater and one for your mom when she visits you.
Why do you have to be gay?
Cezar
Cezar
HILL JANET SWAN
Cass3939 <cass...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
I'm sure that Todd knows.
The sexual orientation of individual skaters is their own private
business. Until a skater chooses to make her/his orientation a matter of
public record, the rest of us try to behave like well-mannered people and
not speculate about it.
janet
--
Elizabeth
Pride wrote:
>>
>> Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
(1) I doubt it.
(2) Who cares?
And it's ELDREDGE, you dork.
Elizabeth
The Cow Goddess
skt...@aol.com (Skt302) wrote:
> >RCWar...@nospam.hotmail.com (RJ)
>
> >Are women trying to avoid this issue of which male
> >figure skaters are gay because it would spoil their sexual fantasies?
>
> and what skating is suppose to be ... good, clean and superior to any
> other sport.
really?! where do you get this information from?
> I do believe that Todd's gayness would really bother most of these
> "regulars" on the board and that's why they pretend to hide behind
> their stupid chair jokes or now the "how many bedrooms does it
> take" jokes.
ah, you must be an expert on the regulars here!
i don't think anyone's sexual orientation is the business of anyone
else if that person hasn't chosen to go public with said orientation.
that's just for starters.
for a long time, in the Canadian skating community, Brian Pokar's
sexuality was open knowledge, and there was a LOT of discussion
when he became a Playgirl centrefold [hmmm.... i think i still have
that issue somewhere].
that he was gay didn't make him any less attractive, sexy or elegant
a skater. it didn't make him any less of a terrific person. every
time i met him he made me weak at the knees - he was just that kind
of guy!
a male skater's sexuality doesn't make skating less "clean" than any
other sport. and skating certainly isn't superior to any other sport -
i don't know where you'd get the idea that we think so. certainly, we
think this sport is suitable for children, and people - rightly - get
squicked at mixing children and sex; so i can see where we *might*
prefer to keep the two separate.
when Brian Pokar died of AIDS i got calls from friends who knew that
i had met him during my work in skating and they were *shocked*.
many of them wanted to know if i knew he was gay all along, because
they also knew i had a raging crush on the man.
IT DIDN'T MATTER!!!!!
it didn't change how i felt about him, just as Rob McCall's sexuality
didn't affect my admiration for him, just as Toller Cranston's
sexuality doesn't affect my admiration for him!
*SHEESH*
who CARES if Todd is gay??? the only person who should care
is Todd!!!! if he's gay or straight, i hope he has a happy life and
continues to skate for many more years and that's the only thing
that should matter!
angie
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dulc...@X.exit109.com (Dulcinea West) wrote:
> I have a 3 bedroom house by myself. Does that make me a lesbian?
> What about if I get that deck addition I'm considering?
it absolutely must mean that.
because my friend who *is* a lesbian lives alone in a 3 bedroom
house with a deck! :)
PegLewis
From: ang...@thetoybox.org (The Cow Goddess)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:52:02 -0400
skt...@aol.com (Skt302) wrote:
> >RCWar...@nospam.hotmail.com (RJ)
>
> >Are women trying to avoid this issue of which male
> >figure skaters are gay because it would spoil their sexual fantasies?
>
> Yes and that it would upset there straight laced principles about how
> and what skating is suppose to be ... good, clean and superior to any
> other sport.
> I do believe that Todd's gayness would really bother most of these
> "regulars" on the board and that's why they pretend to hide behind
> their stupid chair jokes or now the "how many bedrooms does it
> take" jokes.
ah, you must be an expert on the regulars here!
Peg answers:
Warbirds is a *really* recent addition to the menagerie. He hasn't a clue
*who* the old-timers are, or who is a genuine "regular" and who is merely a
johnny-come-lately like himself. He probably fancies himself a "regular." But
I wouldn't consider him well-versed in behavior on this NG.
Peg
PegLewis
Subj: Re: Todd Elderage, the figure skater. Is he gay?
Date: 04/30/98
To: rec.sport.skatin...@newsbase.cs.yale.edu
Sorry- fast on send. Needed to add: "Jane," skt302, is just as new and
"reliable" an observer as Warbirds.
Peg