Katia the brave one NOT!!
Tracy Colavito
for a while. A while ago Ann Lewis said something to the effect of,
"Katia has milked her husbands death for all it is worth." I agree with
this. She would not be a millionaire if Sergei had not died. If it was
the other way around and Katia had died, I would guess that Sergei would
have taken Dasha back to Russia with him, and maybe he would have become
a coach. Katia has sometimes used the excuse that "oh sergei would be
proud of me" yeah right Sergei knows exactly what she is doing.
kathy burke
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Tracy Colavito wrote in message <36A6BC7C...@dickinson.edu>...
Nat3dgirl
Well I think it's a little strange she's with Ilia Kulik all the time!! Isn't
she dating a Russian dancer her own age? Now she's with Ilia everywhere, like
in LA in his car. Oh well they look good together.
Reine Lily
Oooh, goody. *waiting patiently for Ann to comment*
Hmm. What the hell do I have to wait for?
<Ann mode on>
We all know that trashy little number Katia is just working her way through the
SOI men. Of course, if Ilia were married he'd be even more attractive to her.
:-)
<Ann mode off>
Ahh, much better. *snicker*
Lily <---easily amused
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SkateSand
Oh, I don't know. I think anyone who sky dives is pretty brave!
Laurie
Ann Lewis
> "Katia has milked her husbands death for all it is worth." I agree with
> this. She would not be a millionaire if Sergei had not died.
Exactly.
> If it was the other way around and Katia had died, I would guess that Sergei would
> have taken Dasha back to Russia with him, and maybe he would have become
> a coach.
Yes ... and he would have actually been around to be a parent to his
child, rather than farming her out to his own parents to raise.
> Katia has sometimes used the excuse that "oh sergei would be
> proud of me" yeah right Sergei knows exactly what she is doing.
hehehe
AJL
Ann Lewis
>
> Well I think it's a little strange she's with Ilia Kulik all the time!! Isn't
> she dating a Russian dancer her own age? Now she's with Ilia everywhere,
Interesting. I guess Ilia is using her to "learn on." ;-)
IGRANE
<<Well I think it's a little strange she's with Ilia Kulik all the time!!
Isn't
in LA in his car. Oh well they look good together.
>>
Ohh well, thats how Rediculious rumors get started!!!!!!
Trudi Marrapodi
(Nat3dgirl) wrote:
> Well I think it's a little strange she's with Ilia Kulik all the
time!! Isn't
> she dating a Russian dancer her own age? Now she's with Ilia everywhere, like
> in LA in his car. Oh well they look good together.
She's touring with Ilia, so why wouldn't they be seen a lot together?
Please read the FAQ, which discourages gossip.
Trudi
Ann Lewis
> She's touring with Ilia, so why wouldn't they be seen a lot together?
Ilia is also "learning on" Katia. ;-)
AJL
kwan...@my-dejanews.com
skat...@aol.com (SkateSand) wrote:
>
> Oh, I don't know. I think anyone who sky dives is pretty brave!
>
> Laurie
That or just plain STUPID! :^)
I tend to agree on the Katia milking it for all it's worth. She is a
sympathetic figure..she really can't skate all that well, IMO.
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>
> I tend to agree on the Katia milking it for all it's worth. She is a
> sympathetic figure..she really can't skate all that well, IMO.
And she so loves pity; she revels in it; she eats it up.
AJL
CHealion
when Sergei was alive, he never got the credit he deserved, everything was all
Katia this and Katia that......she keeps playing into this more and more. No
wonder I've never liked her.
Tmoms
<<Well I think it's a little strange she's with Ilia Kulik all the time!!
Isn't she dating a Russian dancer her own age? Now she's with Ilia everywhere,
like in LA in his car. Oh well they look good together.>>
igrane wrote: << Ohh well, thats how Rediculious rumors get started!!!!!!>>
It certainly is, but since it was raised, I must agree they do look good
together. Very very good together, LOL.
Tmoms
Hattie54
events . She will skate as long as she can as she does have Daria to support .
Harriet
Tmoms
Laurie
Laurie, I agree -- went repelling with ROTC (with rope, you know, harnessed
in, backwards off top of cliff, banging against the cliff wall with feet and
pushing out). I was a Cordette nominee in my lovely youth, and had to do it.
Scariest moment I ever had, but it was fun. Gave new meaning to "oh go jump
off a cliff!", LOL. Never will willingly do it again, however. LOL.
TMoms
BielmnSpin
>> sympathetic figure..she really can't skate all that well, IMO.
As much as I hate to do it, I really have to agree with this statement. When
"My Sergei" was published I thought "fine, this is just another biography like
many other skaters have." And I enjoyed reading it. What made me inclined to
feel that Katia is milking Sergei's death to the last penny is when "A Letter
To Daria" (or whatever it's called) was published. I was skimming through it in
the bookstore and felt that it really is not that germane. If she wanted to put
together a scrap book to give to Daria to remember her father and her youth and
give it to her personally, that's great. But "A Letter To Daria" is not even
one of the better quality figure skating oriented books. It just seemed that it
was published for the sake of being on the market and making a profit. I have
nothing against endorsing products or having a fragrance line (Katia lotion
smells absolutely wonderful!) but I felt that "A Letter To Daria" was stepping
over the limits from quality to merely making profit.
-Katja
-"Rap is to music as Etch-a-Sketch is to art."-
~*~Du bist die Insel
im Meer der Sehnsucht
Du bist die Sonne
in der Nacht
Du bist im Regen
der Regenbogen
Ich hab´ so oft an Dich gedacht~*~
-Blümchen
Reine Lily
With all the money Katia has made from her books and other endorsements, does
anyone know if she's donated any of it to charity? Specifically, research into
heart disease or possibly the American Heart Association?
Not that she's required to, of course. I'm just curious.
Lily <--- who neither likes nor dislikes Katia; primarily bored by her
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Hattie54
>when Sergei was alive, he never got the credit he deserved, everything was
>all
>Katia this and Katia that......she
That was brave of you to post . There are alot of us out there that think Kati
is endorsing it for all its worth .
Harriet
Chelsea Christenson
> I agree with this.
If it has already been said, why bother saying it again?
Ann Lewis
>
> With all the money Katia has made from her books and other endorsements, does
> anyone know if she's donated any of it to charity? Specifically, research into
> heart disease or possibly the American Heart Association?
That's a great question. You'd think that if she really cared about her
late husband, she would establish a charity for heart disease research
in his name. Not Katia Whordeeva. She's too busy bedding every married
man she can. ;-)
Ann Lewis
> However, Sergei's Heart condition was a rare
> genetic paternal malfuntion, perhaps she looks more into the causes of genetic
> diseases of the heart, considering her daughter is 1/2 genetic of Sergei, to be
> sure she does not carry that fatal gene..
True. Daria could drop dead in her 20s. :-)
>Its a very privet thing and I imagine she would Not publisize it.
I would think that she *would* want it publicized. I'm sure that, were
she to say the word, her obsessive fans would gladly send her their
money, thereby possibly hastening a cure.
> As for endorsments, I think her english is still not good enough to be doing
> one of those commercials,,
Hasn't stopped her from doing cheesy ads for Target. ;-)
>but then again who knows, she could do a print add,
> but, again, what would be close to her is Not the average heart disease.
The American Heart Association solicits funds for heart diseases of all
types. And if she didn't care for that organization, she could start
her own.
> Maybe one day in the future she will
And maybe she won't. Maybe she just doesn't give a crap. Maybe she's
having too much fun screwing married men - while Sergei's body continues
to decompose. :-)
AJL
kathy burke
this subject to date. All the best to Katia and Daria.
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MyBrian wrote in message <19990121201814...@ng146.aol.com>...
> Katia has to support herself and her child. Most skating careers do not
last a
>lifetime
>(except for Dick Button). She is young and has a long life ahead of her ( I
>hope) and many years of supporting her daughter. Her
>profession is skating and in order to do this she has to travel. It is
>wonderful that her parents are there to help raise Daria. I know that when
I
>was widowed my parents were there to help. I don't think I could have made
it
>without them.
>
> I don't blame her for making all the money she can while she still has a
>career, she will need it in the future.
>
> As for being seen with Illia or any other man, she's single and of age so
>it's her business who she goes with.
>
> As for the alligation that she was with Kurt, it take two to tango you
know.
>Kurt was with her too if the rumors are true (which I doubt).
>
>Anyway it's not any of our business. This is not the U.S. Senate sent here
to
>judge anyone.
>Barb.
>
>"Brian is the best skater of his generation"
> From the TOC television special
> @--->-->---
Ann Lewis
>
> Katia has to support herself and her child. Most skating careers do not last a
> lifetime
> (except for Dick Button).
This is one of the lamest arguments out there. Katia Whordeeva could
have stopped skating two years ago, and still had enough money to raise
her child to adulthood - and in a very comfortable fashion. And it
would be better for Daria to have her mother around while she's growing
up, rather than have her as a visitor, or someone to do Target
commercials with. ;-)
>She is young and has a long life ahead of her
Nobody knows how long her life will last.
> Her profession is skating and in order to do this she has to travel.
If she cared about her daughter, she would have considered alternatives
- coaching, appearing in tours with a less stringest tour schedule, etc.
With the money she made from the book that was written for her, she
could even have simply chosen to retire early and devote her attention
and time to her daughter.
>It is wonderful that her parents are there to help raise Daria.
I wouldn't feel safe leaving any little girl alone with Katia
Whordeeva's father. It sounds like he had an incestuous relationship
with Katia when she was a child (I'm referring to the passage in "My
Sergei" where she describes how he would come up to her bedroom in the
evening and rub cream into her chest. Ugh.)
> I know that when I
> was widowed my parents were there to help. I don't think I could have made it
> without them.
I don't think that you could make with them, either. ;-)
>
> I don't blame her for making all the money she can while she still has a
> career, she will need it in the future.
Again ... she has more than enough money for the present and the future.
Whordeeva is simply greedy. :-)
>
> As for being seen with Illia or any other man, she's single and of age so
> it's her business who she goes with.
I see. So it's her business if she "goes out" with married men, too?
>
> As for the alligation that she was with Kurt, it take two to tango you know.
> Kurt was with her too if the rumors are true (which I doubt).
True, but it doesn't diminish her responsibility for her part in the
affair. Whordeeva is a sleaze bag, plain and simple.
>
> Anyway it's not any of our business.
Sure it is. She "wrote" about her personal life in two books, including
some charming intimate details as her initial temptation to abort Daria.
If she didn't want people to discuss her life, she should have
considered this before making all of that money off Sergei's death.
AJL
Ann Lewis
> Every single working mother "must" leave their child with someone while they
> earn a living.
True, but Katia Whordeeva leaves her daughter for *weeks* at a time.
That is not beneficial for Daria, though I'm sure it works just fine for
Katia's social life. Having a young child around while you're bedding
various married men must be a real drag. ;-)
>Quality time with a child is as important as quantity time.
Children must have quantity time so that quality time can occur. You
can't say to a five-year-old, "Okay, Mommy wants to spend the next 20
minutes involved in quality time with you." It doesn't work that way.
In my experience, the qualitatively richest times occur at seemingly
down times for kids (driving to the store, walking to the park, etc.)
Katia is too selfish to truly devote herself to raising her daughter.
Never fear ... she'll get paid back big-time when Daria is a teen. ;-)
> You don't have a clue as to how their time is spent together.
And you do? :-)
> She did what she knows how to do best, skating.
Putting her child's interests ahead of her own selfish desires might
mean doing what she knows how to do second best, or even third best.
> Retire? at her age, why? She can work and raise her daughter, doing what she
> does best-skating!!!!
Point 1: She could temporarily "retire" till Daria is older. She
needn't be completely idle during those years, but it would require her
to sacrifice ... a concept Whordeeva is wholly unfamiliar with. Point
2: In case you haven't noticed, Katia sucks big-time as a singles
skater. Yes, audiences love her, but only because they pity her. It's
her "tragic" story that the public loves, not her. But Katia doesn't
care. She'll take the pity - and the money that comes with it - gladly.
In fact, I'm sure that she's quite happy that Sergei died at this point.
> >You read something dirty into the fact that her father was taking care of her,
> In the old days they used to rub vicks etc. on their chests for colds.
But he did this with a pre-pubescent girl. It would have been more
appropriate for her mother or grandmother to do that. I suspect that he
rubbed cream other places as well. ;-)
> I made it just fine thank you.
I have my doubts about that. You seem to have very little understanding
of what children require of parents. :-)
AJL
Ann Lewis
> How much is enough in these days with an uncertain future?
Well, it seems that Katia has amassed at least a few million dollars
within the past few years. That should be enough to see Daria through
to adulthood. The vast majority of parents manage to get by with far
less money. :-)
>I don't think she's
> in Bill gates catagory.
Exactly how inane are you? One doesn't need to be "in Bill Gates's
category" to successfully raise his/her children to adulthood.
AJL
Ann Lewis
> >If she wants us to know about her life after Sergi, she can write another
> book. Until then what she dows now "is" her business.
She can do what she chooses ... but she'd better realize that people
*can* and *will* discuss the propriety of her choices. :-)
AJL
IGRANE
> anyone know if she's donated any of it to charity? Specifically, research
into
> heart disease or possibly the American Heart Association?>>
Yes that would be nice of her and we do not know if she does Not donnate, I
susspect she does donnate! However, Sergei's Heart condition was a rare
genetic paternal malfuntion, perhaps she looks more into the causes of genetic
diseases of the heart, considering her daughter is 1/2 genetic of Sergei, to be
sure she does not carry that fatal gene.. Its a very privet thing and I imagine
she would Not publisize it.
As for endorsments, I think her english is still not good enough to be doing
one of those commercials,, but then again who knows, she could do a print add,
but, again, what would be close to her is Not the average heart disease.
Maybe one day in the future she will, it would be nice to see her put her fame
and her past pain to good use in "that" spacific way.
JMO!!
Fauve;-)
MyBrian
lifetime
profession is skating and in order to do this she has to travel. It is
wonderful that her parents are there to help raise Daria. I know that when I
was widowed my parents were there to help. I don't think I could have made it
without them.
I don't blame her for making all the money she can while she still has a
career, she will need it in the future.
As for being seen with Illia or any other man, she's single and of age so
it's her business who she goes with.
As for the alligation that she was with Kurt, it take two to tango you know.
Kurt was with her too if the rumors are true (which I doubt).
Anyway it's not any of our business. This is not the U.S. Senate sent here to
MyBrian
>have stopped skating two years ago, and still had enough money to raise
>her child to adulthood - and in a very comfortable fashion. And it
>would be better for Daria to have her mother around while she's growing up>
Every single working mother "must" leave their child with someone while they
earn a living. Quality time with a child is as important as quantity time. I
sure Katia time with Daria
is well spent. You don't have a clue as to how their time is spent together.
>Nobody knows how long her life will last.
>
As I said ( I hope)
>If she cared about her daughter, she would have considered alternatives
>- coaching, appearing in tours with a less stringest tour schedule, etc.
> With the money she made from the book that was written for her, she
>could even have simply chosen to retire early and devote her attention
>and time to her daughter.
>
She did what she knows how to do best, skating.
Retire? at her age, why? She can work and raise her daughter, doing what she
does best-skating!!!!
>>It is wonderful that her parents are there to help raise Daria.
>I wouldn't feel safe leaving any little girl alone with Katia
>Whordeeva's father. It sounds like he had an incestuous relationship
>with Katia when she was a child (I'm referring to the passage in "My
>Sergei" where she describes how he would come up to her bedroom in the
>evening and rub cream into her chest. Ugh.)
>You read something dirty into the fact that her father was taking care of her,
In the old days they used to rub vicks etc. on their chests for colds.
>
>I don't think that you could make with them, either. ;-)
I made it just fine thank you.
MyBrian
>Again ... she has more than enough money for the present and the future.
> Whordeeva is simply greedy. :-)
How much is enough in these days with an uncertain future? I don't think she's
in Bill gates catagory.
>I see. So it's her business if she "goes out" with married men, too?
Exactly, but that is just a rumor you started remember?
MyBrian
>Sure it is. She "wrote" about her personal life in two books, including
>some charming intimate details as her initial temptation to abort Daria.
>If she didn't want people to discuss her life, she should have
>considered this before making all of that money off Sergei's death.
>
>AJL
>
>If she wants us to know about her life after Sergi, she can write another
book. Until then what she dows now "is" her business.
>
Your problem is you have your nose in everbody's business. Perhaps you can
replace "Dear Abby" when she retires. :)
KatyaBelle
IceFurrow
From: Ann Lewis <ajl...@erols.com>
Date: Thu, Jan 21, 1999 19:13 EST
Message-id: <36A7C2...@erols.com>
Reine Lily wrote:
>
> With all the money Katia has made from her books and other endorsements, does
> anyone know if she's donated any of it to charity? Specifically, research
into
> heart disease or possibly the American Heart Association?
That's a great question. You'd think that if she really cared about her
late husband, she would establish a charity for heart disease research
in his name. Not Katia Whordeeva. She's too busy bedding every married
man she can. ;-)
Forwarded to ab...@erols.com
Cheers,
Furrow
sh...@aol.com
In article <36A7F9...@erols.com>, Ann Lewis <ajl...@erols.com> wrote:
> MyBrian wrote:
>
> > Every single working mother "must" leave their child with someone while they
> > earn a living.
>
> True, but Katia Whordeeva leaves her daughter for *weeks* at a time.
> That is not beneficial for Daria, though I'm sure it works just fine for
> Katia's social life. Having a young child around while you're bedding
> various married men must be a real drag. ;-)
>
> >Quality time with a child is as important as quantity time.
>
> Children must have quantity time so that quality time can occur. You
> can't say to a five-year-old, "Okay, Mommy wants to spend the next 20
> minutes involved in quality time with you." It doesn't work that way.
> In my experience, the qualitatively richest times occur at seemingly
> down times for kids (driving to the store, walking to the park, etc.)
> Katia is too selfish to truly devote herself to raising her daughter.
> Never fear ... she'll get paid back big-time when Daria is a teen. ;-)
>
> > You don't have a clue as to how their time is spent together.
>
> And you do? :-)
>
> > She did what she knows how to do best, skating.
>
> Putting her child's interests ahead of her own selfish desires might
> mean doing what she knows how to do second best, or even third best.
>
> > Retire? at her age, why? She can work and raise her daughter, doing
what she
> > does best-skating!!!!
>
> Point 1: She could temporarily "retire" till Daria is older. She
> needn't be completely idle during those years, but it would require her
> to sacrifice ... a concept Whordeeva is wholly unfamiliar with. Point
> 2: In case you haven't noticed, Katia sucks big-time as a singles
> skater. Yes, audiences love her, but only because they pity her. It's
> her "tragic" story that the public loves, not her. But Katia doesn't
> care. She'll take the pity - and the money that comes with it - gladly.
> In fact, I'm sure that she's quite happy that Sergei died at this point.
>
> > >You read something dirty into the fact that her father was taking
care of her,
> > In the old days they used to rub vicks etc. on their chests for colds.
>
> But he did this with a pre-pubescent girl. It would have been more
> appropriate for her mother or grandmother to do that. I suspect that he
> rubbed cream other places as well. ;-)
>
> > I made it just fine thank you.
>
IGRANE
> However, Sergei's Heart condition was a rare
> genetic paternal malfuntion, perhaps she looks more into the causes of
genetic
> diseases of the heart, considering her daughter is 1/2 genetic of Sergei, to
be
> sure she does not carry that fatal gene.. >>
Ann Lewis wrote:
<<True. Daria could drop dead in her 20s. :-)>>
I know this sick statement you made above, would thrill you beyond belief,
concidering your natural love for children (????)
Igrane wrote:
>Its a very privet thing and I imagine she would Not publisize it.>>>
ann Lewis wrote:
<<<I would think that she *would* want it publicized. I'm sure that, were
she to say the word, her obsessive fans would gladly send her their
money, thereby possibly hastening a cure. >>
Sorry to inform you there really is Non cure for Ginetic diseases, When there
is, I for one will surly contruibute what I can, though I have conturbuted
plenty over the last 12 years, from my body to science with my rare ginetic
cancer that I had, but it woud not stop me or I woud not Hessitate to give £ to
find a cure for that! I highly doubt that Katia would NOT donate as well.
Igrane Wrote:
> As for endorsments, I think her english is still not good enough to be
doing
> one of those commercials,,
ann lewis wrote:
<<Hasn't stopped her from doing cheesy ads for Target. ;-)
>>
Hence the Target adds to a Serious Health ( in this case Heart) disease add.
Ann wrote:
<<...>>
Sorry I snipped the rest of the crap, not worth my time.
JMO!
Fauve;-)))))
Jennifer Lyon
myb...@aol.com wrote:
>Every single working mother "must" leave their child with someone while
they
>earn a living.
True, even a lot of married mothers have to work to pay the bills. But
let's face it, folks, Katia Gordeeva could do a couple of ice shows and
TV specials a year and still earn more money than 99.99999 percent of the
single working moms in this country. And then there's her book money, her
Target money, etc. If Katia isn't a multimillionare already, I'd be
surprised. She could put all that $$ in the bank and live comfortably off
the interest without working another day in her life. I am not saying
that's what she should do. Obviously, skating means a great deal to her.
But I think it's wrong to compare her to the rest of the single working
moms out there. They're *not* in the same boat!
>Quality time with a child is as important as quantity time. I
>sure Katia time with Daria
>is well spent. You don't have a clue as to how their time is spent
together.
I agree to a certain extent. However, it doesn't sit well with me that
Katia leaves Daria to spend several months of each year on tour. This
poor little girl has lost her father, and now her mom is always gone.
Tmoms
Harriet >>
But the same has been true of Witt, no? I didn't keep a record, but seemed to
me she didn't land her 3 toe loop most of the time? Katia G. also usually
lands her 2 axel, and doubles her salchow, although she's had some trouble
with her with her 2 axel lately. My point is that not being able to land the 3
jumps in the pros is not a determining issue as to whether a skater belongs in
the top spots. Of course, the only jump Kerrigan has been consistent on is her
3 lutz and Kerrigan has also fallen a lot in relatively easy moves (not
jumps?).
Tmoms, just looking for some fair standards?
Reine Lily
>I agree to a certain extent. However, it doesn't sit well with me that
>Katia leaves Daria to spend several months of each year on tour. This
>poor little girl has lost her father, and now her mom is always gone.
>
>
My problem with Katia is not that she has such a dedication to her career, or
even that she is away from Daria much of the time. I do believe that she *does*
love her daughter very much, in her own way. What bothers me is the endless
exploitation of her daughter; having her in commercials and trotting her out in
front of the cameras constantly. At Daria's age, she's probably enjoying the
attention now, but when she gets older she'll start to resent it *and* her
mother. Cripes, as much of a sleaze that Clinton is, at least he and Hillary
kept Chelsea out of the public eye as much as possible until she went away to
college. I just feel that all of this public attention on Daria will be
damaging for her in the future. Katia is young and attractive and she's had an
interesting life story. She doesn't *need* to publicize her daughter constantly
to retain attention on her, but she does it anyway. That bothers me.
Lily
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Tmoms
With all the money Katia has made from her books and other endorsements, does
anyone know if she's donated any of it to charity? Specifically, research into
heart disease or possibly the American Heart Association?
Not that she's required to, of course. I'm just curious.>>
Hmmm. I wouldn't want to know. I can't stand celebrities who go around
bragging about their charities! If they are spokespersons, that's different.
Using their celebrity status to encourage or even start a charity is good. But
bragging about your donations and getting PR for it? Bad taste, IMHO. I
imagine all wealthy folks donate -- afterall, their accountants and tax lawyers
advise them to do so and the US tax code is set up to encourage charitable
"giving".
TMoms
Tmoms
"milking" her husband's death. I mean, where's the evidence for such a harsh
accusation? More to the point, I think Letter to Daria sets an example for the
many, many women with children who have to raise them alone, via either death
or divorce (95% of all divorced fathers have little or nothing to do with their
children) quoted from "A Lesser Life". Only 15% of all adjudicated child
support is being paid at any given time, and those amounts on average are only
$150/month. Again, quoted from "A Lesser LIfe" by Sylvia Ann Hewlet,
economist.
Oh, and if you think the regular divorce rate is bad at 50%, consider that the
rate for "blended" families is a whopping 75%! These marriages do not work.
LOL
Tmoms, with a few facts.
chin...@my-dejanews.com
Ann Lewis <ajl...@erols.com> wrote:
> I wouldn't feel safe leaving any little girl alone with Katia
> Whordeeva's father. It sounds like he had an incestuous relationship
> with Katia when she was a child (I'm referring to the passage in "My
> Sergei" where she describes how he would come up to her bedroom in the
> evening and rub cream into her chest. Ugh.)
So, I guess that means you use Gordeeva's father as a model for your
parenting skills, huh? ;-) I've heard that Jews and chinks enjoy that kind
of incestuous bonding. Not that it really matters in your case since the
chink really isn't yours. Whatever rocks your boat.
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IGRANE
or
even that she is away from Daria much of the time. I do believe that she *does*
love her daughter very much, in her own way. What bothers me is the endless
exploitation of her daughter; having her in commercials and trotting her out in
front of the cameras constantly. >>
Gifford for a mom and have her kids exploited in her own living room, in front
of the head of Disney himself, Michel Isner ( which he publiclly stated, found
Most annoying) and have those kids on every specail she can get her hands on,
then Inssesently chatter about them day in and day out, so look on the bright
side, Daria is Definatly ahead in the running....
JMO
Fauve;-)
chin...@my-dejanews.com
Ann Lewis <ajl...@erols.com> wrote:
> She can do what she chooses ... but she'd better realize that people
> *can* and *will* discuss the propriety of her choices. :-)
>
> AJL
Hey Jew, Heard that darling Katia also moonlights as a hooker when she's not
on the ice and is intent on showing little Daria the same light ;-) Maybe
you should contact her. She can set your chink up with a pimp. An hour with
infants brings in the bacon, or so I hear. That would really help you out
with your tuition and books. They could function as baby sitters too.
They'll even feed her with the most special of bottles. <bg>
WIsil
were going towards the AHA. Also, part of the proceeds from Celebration of a
Life were going to the AHA as well. As far as a Letter to Daria, I do not
really see this as milking Sergei's death at all. I think it was a beautiful
book for a little girl describing her heritage and educating the public on life
in the former Soviet Union. It may also help explain to Daria when she is
older many things that she might not now understand. I don't feel that Katia
has been exploiting Daria all that much. I don't really remember seeing her
recently at all except for last year's Snowden. Maybe I am missing something.
I think the mild ads are cute, not exploitative. Katia is a single working
woman with a beautiful child to support. I think having ads with them together
is just fine. It is not like Daria is being abused or is missing months of
school for photo shoots or filming. How about we leave well enough alone.
Wendy
"Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little, cheep cheep cheep,
talk a lot, pick a little more!"
The ladies of River City
Ann Lewis
> If Katia isn't a multimillionare already, I'd be
> surprised. She could put all that $$ in the bank and live comfortably off
> the interest without working another day in her life.
Exactly.
> But I think it's wrong to compare her to the rest of the single working
> moms out there. They're *not* in the same boat!
True, and it's insulting to those single moms (and single dads) who
manage to both support their children and *be there* for them. :-)
> However, it doesn't sit well with me that
> Katia leaves Daria to spend several months of each year on tour. This
> poor little girl has lost her father, and now her mom is always gone.
Well said. :-)
AJL
Ann Lewis
> (95% of all divorced fathers have little or nothing to do with their
> children) quoted from "A Lesser Life". Only 15% of all adjudicated child
> support is being paid at any given time, and those amounts on average are only
> $150/month. Again, quoted from "A Lesser LIfe" by Sylvia Ann Hewlet,
> economist.
"A Lesser Life" was written over a decade ago. Have you determined
whether the statistics you toss around are still true (assuming that
they were true when the book was published)?
AJL
Ann Lewis
>
> Katia is a single working
> woman with a beautiful child to support.
To present Katia as a typical "single working woman" demonstrates that
you're either incredibly stupid, or inordinately ignorant of the true
conditions under which the vast majority of single working women live.
Most "single working women" do not have fragrance lines. They aren't
coddled by their co-workers. They don't earn millions each year by
spending long periods of time away from their children. What you've
written is highly insulting to single parents.
AJL
Reine Lily
>Well look at it this way it Could be MUCH worse,, Daria could have
>Krappie-Lee
>Gifford for a mom and have her kids exploited in her own living room,
Katia essentially did the same thing. She taped several vignettes of her
"bonding" with Daria at her home, which have been shown incessantly on various
skating shows.
>in front
>of the head of Disney himself, Michel Isner ( which he publiclly stated,
>found
>Most annoying)
Just wait until Katia gets an endorsement deal with Disney and we'll see. I
predict a charming little commercial with Daria and Katia going to Disneyworld.
*gak*
>and have those kids on every specail she can get her hands on,
Yep. Nearly every televised skating appearance Katia is on, there's Daria in
the audience or yet another re-airing of those at-home vignettes.
>then Inssesently chatter about them day in and day out,
Yep. When was the last time Katia was on TV and *didn't* bring up Daria's name?
>so look on the bright
>side, Daria is Definatly ahead in the running....
Seems to me all you've done is draw a very apt comparison. Do I see a talk show
hosting job in the future for Katia?
LKW35
>written is highly insulting to single parents.
>
>AJL
I know I swore off writing.. but had to say it.. "Kettle.... Pot.... Black"
WIsil
>WIsil wrote:
>>
>> Katia is a single working
>> woman with a beautiful child to support.
>
>To present Katia as a typical "single working woman" demonstrates that
>you're either incredibly stupid, or inordinately ignorant of the true
>conditions under which the vast majority of single working women live.
>Most "single working women" do not have fragrance lines. They aren't
>coddled by their co-workers. They don't earn millions each year by
>
>AJL
Learn to read Ann. I said Katia is a single working mother, not a typical one.
Better luck next time.
WIsil
>you're either incredibly stupid, or inordinately ignorant of the true
>conditions under which the vast majority of single working women live.
>Most "single working women" do not have fragrance lines. They aren't
>coddled by their co-workers. They don't earn millions each year by
>spending long periods of time away from their children. What you've
>written is highly insulting to single parents.
>
>AJL
></PRE></HTML>
Ann, just because I have a different opinion than you regarding Katia does not
necessitate personal and insulting attacks from you. Civility is a good thing.
Intelligence is knowing how to accept opinions of others even if they differ
from yours. Try it sometime.
Ann Lewis
> Ann, just because I have a different opinion than you regarding Katia does not
> necessitate personal and insulting attacks from you. Civility is a good thing.
> Intelligence is knowing how to accept opinions of others even if they differ
> from yours. Try it sometime.
>
Your post would be much more credible if you hadn't called me a "bitch"
in the past. ;-)
AJL
Sugar20127
>for a while. A while ago Ann Lewis said something to the effect of,
>"Katia has milked her husbands death for all it is worth." I agree with
>this. She would not be a millionaire if Sergei had not died. If it was
>the other way around and Katia had died, I would guess that Sergei would
>have taken Dasha back to Russia with him, and maybe he would have become
>a coach. Katia has sometimes used the excuse that "oh sergei would be
>proud of me" yeah right Sergei knows exactly what she is doing.
>
Some people are so freaking insentive! God, I don't even know what to say
because this is so rude! You people disgust me
WIsil
Oh please. Get over yourself. One has nothing to do with the other. My
opinion of you has to do with your constant vicious personal attacks on posters
here and your incessant need to try to stir up as much trouble as possible in
the name of free expression. The vast majority of the posters on this NG are
here to discuss skating, not bash each other. If you do not like the opinions
people have and express regarding you, why don't you change your behavior?
You have ben asked to do this by almost everyone here as well as your ISP, why
can't you just accept the fact that your behaviour is disruptive and immature?
This is not meant to be a flame but an honest question. There is absolutely no
need to keep harping on the fact that you wish Brian Orser would die a painful
death from AIDS and your personal opinions on Katia and your constant
insinuations that Nancy Kerrigan's son has a black father, etc. This is so
juvenile and unecessary and disruptive. Why are you surprised when people
react to you negatively?????
Ann Lewis
> This is not meant to be a flame but an honest question. There is absolutely no
> need to keep harping on the fact that you wish Brian Orser would die a painful
> death from AIDS and your personal opinions on Katia and your constant
> insinuations that Nancy Kerrigan's son has a black father, etc. This is so
> juvenile and unecessary and disruptive. Why are you surprised when people
> react to you negatively?????
It really does take two. When Trudi, Kaiju, and Peggy attack me, that's
ok. When I voice my opinions about skaters, my posts are attacked.
Seems to me that reeks of hypocrisy.
AJL
Little-Beth
Please watch what you say!
Liz
chin...@my-dejanews.com wrote in article
WIsil
There is no hypocrisy here. The above mentioned posters are not attacking you.
They are defending themselves against you. If they something negative against
you, 100% chances are that you instigated the attack. No one here as far as I
have seen besides you makes unwarranted personal attacks against other poster.
Your comments regarding Trudi's alleged weight, Joelle's family life,
Katyabelle's husband, etc are completely ridiculous. No one else here behaves
that way. Grow up. Responding to you is one thing. Going out of your way to
purposefully stir up trouble through your posts is another. A child could see
that. Please mend your behavior. The Ng has tried to have a decent place to
post about skating but you only seem interested in stirring up trouble. One
solution is to ignore you, however, I think the best and only solution is for
you to change. Your personal opinions regarding other posters have no place
here. Take it to email. If you have something to say about skating, then say
it. Why must you always be a troublemaker?
Wendy
wendy
MyBrian
>the audience or yet another re-airing of those at-home vignettes.
Does that mean Daria " is with" Katia while she is skating and earning a
living, not home alne while Mom is gone? Guess that blows one of
the complaints about Katia not being with her.
Barb.
"Brian is the best skater of his generation"
From the TOC television special
@--->-->---
Reine Lily
>>Yep. Nearly every televised skating appearance Katia is on, there's Daria in
>>the audience or yet another re-airing of those at-home vignettes.
Barb replied:
>Does that mean Daria " is with" Katia while she is skating and earning a
>living, not home alne while Mom is gone? Guess that blows one of
>the complaints about Katia not being with her.
>Barb.
>
Re-read my statement again, specifically the part *after* the "or". Daria
doesn't have to be at the event for them to re-air those nauseating Katia/Daria
bonding segments. You haven't de-bunked anything.
Trudi Marrapodi
Please stop arguing with Ann Lewis about Katia. It is no use. She's just
saying it to be nasty because she's envious of what Katia has and we know
it, don't we? Please, join the silent campaign to NOT react to anything
she says at all and starve her of attention until she either shapes up for
good or leaves the newsgroup.
So long as one person posts about her or replies to her, she will be happy
and get the attention she wants. It's up to every one of us to deny her
the attention she craves or she will be there forever.
Please, stop having anything to do with her.
--
Trudi
"They do forgive you. They forgive you, but the powers that be--the people that hire you for jobs--they won't call you...They forgive you, and the phone stops ringing." -- Brian Boitano, asked what would happen to Kurt Browning after he finished 6th in the '92 Olympics
Ann Lewis
>
> Have any of you "Holier than thou" people stopped to think about IMG???????? I
> mean COME ON!!!
That argument simply doesn't wash. As a purported adult (though Katia
is more of a child emotionally), Katia is responsible for her own
behavior.
>
> I know for a FACT that her contracts requires her to meet with the American
> press for interviews no less than five times a year.
And how do you know this? Have you actually seen the contract in
question? I'll wager that you haven't.
> Katia was always taught to respect authority and do as she was told...maybe her
> parents, and her agents, etc. have advised her that this is the best course,
> and maybe she did it because out of her confusion and grief she believed they
> must be right.
Time for the "poor little confused, grief-stricken Katia" argument.
Seems that Katia respects authority only when she can make a few bucks
while doing so. She certainly didn't respect many other things, like
the sanctity of a marital relationship (specifically, Kurt's).
> I don't think any harm has been done to
> Dasha or anyone else.
Too early to tell regarding "Dasha." My hunch is that "Dasha" will be
one screwed-up teen, and that she'll blame her "mother" (appropriately,
IMO) for not being around while she was growing up.
> Katia has handled herself with dignity at every occasion
There is no way to conduct an affair with a married man (Kurt Browning)
with dignity.
>and even has requested for the press to stop asking her about
> Sergei's death. She is trying to move on, and live a full life.
Yes, it really must be a pain when various members of the media continue
to ask about your late husband, when all you want to do is get it on
with married men.
AJL
BABSKATE
even Nancy Kerrigan and also Caryn Kadavy
technically can't compare with people such as
Kristi, Michelle Kwan, Yuka Sato.
The above group seems truly shocked when they land a double axel!!!!!!!
Barb
carey123
do with their lives than to judge others. Anyone who speculates on what
a DEAD man might or might not have done had the circumstances been
switched is just being spiteful. I'm fairly recently married, just 2
1/2 years. If my husband suddenly passed, I would hope that people
would have the decency to let me live my life as I saw fit. I respect
Katia's life choices. I don't need to condemn or condone them.
--
Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email -- always at Talkway.
http://www.talkway.com
IceFurrow
From: chin...@my-dejanews.com
Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 15:00 EST
Message-id: <78alc9$dtg$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <36A7FA...@erols.com>,
Ann Lewis <ajl...@erols.com> wrote:
> She can do what she chooses ... but she'd better realize that people
> *can* and *will* discuss the propriety of her choices. :-)
>
> AJL
Hey Jew, Heard that darling Katia also moonlights as a hooker when she's not
on the ice and is intent on showing little Daria the same light ;-) Maybe
you should contact her. She can set your chink up with a pimp. An hour with
infants brings in the bacon, or so I hear. That would really help you out
with your tuition and books. They could function as baby sitters too.
They'll even feed her with the most special of bottles. <bg>
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In article <36A7D6...@erols.com>,
Ann Lewis <ajl...@erols.com> wrote:
> I wouldn't feel safe leaving any little girl alone with Katia
> Whordeeva's father. It sounds like he had an incestuous relationship
> with Katia when she was a child (I'm referring to the passage in "My
> Sergei" where she describes how he would come up to her bedroom in the
> evening and rub cream into her chest. Ugh.)
So, I guess that means you use Gordeeva's father as a model for your
parenting skills, huh? ;-) I've heard that Jews and chinks enjoy that kind
of incestuous bonding. Not that it really matters in your case since the
chink really isn't yours. Whatever rocks your boat.
KatyaBelle
Yes, she makes money too, but I guarantee you that her existing contracts with
IMG at the time of Sergei's death, and the ones she signed under extreme
emotional difficulty later, had ALL sorts of stipulations about what she had to
do.
I know for a FACT that her contracts requires her to meet with the American
press for interviews no less than five times a year. So, perhaps her contract
also said that she was going to write another book, or have Daria in a
commercial..I don't know, but if she made a bad decision...(and I am NOT saying
she did) then can't some of you at LEAST see that her publicists and agents
know she is a gold-mine and are no doubt controlling her a lot? (or at least
WERE controlling her)
Katia was always taught to respect authority and do as she was told...maybe her
parents, and her agents, etc. have advised her that this is the best course,
and maybe she did it because out of her confusion and grief she believed they
must be right. Maybe they ARE right. I don't think any harm has been done to
Dasha or anyone else. Katia has handled herself with dignity at every
occasion, and even has requested for the press to stop asking her about
Sergei's death. She is trying to move on, and live a full life. She is young!
She SHOULD move on. And any suggestion that she should go home in black and
mourn Sergei forever is stupid.
KatyaBelle
>exploitation of her daughter; having her in commercials and trotting her out
>in
>front of the cameras constantly
>She doesn't *need* to publicize her daughter constantly
>to retain attention on her, but she does it anyway. That bothers me.
Ok....a couple of magazine covers...many from the same photo shoot, a couple of
commercials, and a Snowden special. BIG DEAL!!! I could probably count on ONE
hand the number of photo shoots Daria has been in. If you care to notice, most
of the photos of her came from one of three shoots or interviews. Also, a few
taped at home segments of Katia and Daria...just like every other celebrity you
have ever seen. They ALL talk about their children, and most of them are shown
with their kids from time to time. Nancy Kerrigan trots her kid out all the
time. The accusation of "Trotting her out CONSTANTLY" is ridiculous, and
unfounded. And for her to be seen in the audience at the opening of SOI,
sitting with her grandparents, is completely normal. they have shown Barb
Underhill's daughter in the audience, Victoria Petrenko, Nancy's kid, Blade
Sabovcjik, etc. etc. etc. Just because it isn't EVERYONE'S Idea of what is
right, doesn't mean it is wrong. these families are performers, and they all
grew up watching performers....just let it alone! Sheesh! You would think all
of you are PERFECT!
Jennifer Lyon
katya...@aol.com wrote:
>Ok....a couple of magazine covers...many from the same photo shoot, a
couple of
>commercials, and a Snowden special. BIG DEAL!!!
There was also "A Letter to Daria." That seems to be the one thing that
rubbed a lot of poeple the wrong way.
>Nancy Kerrigan trots her kid out all the
>time.
>The accusation of "Trotting her out CONSTANTLY" is ridiculous, and
>unfounded. And for her to be seen in the audience at the opening of SOI,
>sitting with her grandparents, is completely normal. they have shown
Barb
>Underhill's daughter in the audience, Victoria Petrenko, Nancy's kid,
Blade
>Sabovcjik, etc. etc. etc. Just because it isn't EVERYONE'S Idea of what
is
>right, doesn't mean it is wrong. these families are performers, and they
all
>grew up watching performers....
The difference between Katia and all the other skaters you have mentioned
is that she is using Daria as a marketing tool for her TV specials,
perfume, books, etc. (She isn't doing it as much this year as she did
last year, however.)
Those other skaters' children are simply sitting in the audience,
watching their parents. They aren't there to sell anything.
And yes, I agree with whoever it was that said Kathie Lee Gifford is
worse.
Reine Lily
>She's just
>saying it to be nasty because she's envious of what Katia has and we know
>it, don't we?
Damn. I forgot to use the "you're just jealous" argument in my little play.
>Please, join the silent
*cough* No comment.
>campaign to NOT react to anything
>she says at all and starve her of attention until she either shapes up for
>good or leaves the newsgroup.
Yes, and you're off to a great start on this campaign.
>So long as one person posts about her or replies to her, she will be happy
>and get the attention she wants.
Do I really need to point out the hypocrisy in this remark, or is it already
completely obvious?
>t's up to every one of us to deny her
>the attention she craves or she will be there forever.
Ann's going to be here forever regardless of how much she's ignored.
>Please, stop having anything to do with her.
Hey pot, this is kettle. You're black.
Liz C
>The difference between Katia and all the
>other skaters you have mentioned is that
>she is using Daria as a marketing tool for
>her TV specials, perfume, books, etc.
I think that we see Daria more then we see other skater's kids because
Katia is more in the mainstream then the others. What other skater has
as much exposure at this time then Katia?
I would say that if another skater came along and was able to market
themselves as she has, then their child would be in the public eye more.
Then we would be saying the same thing about them.
Katia has to do what she has to do to make a living. Let's face it,
there will be a time when no one wants to see her skate anymore. There
will be new faces and she will be old news. As much as I admire her,
skating is about all she can do. She needs to make the money when she
can. As soon as her popularity fades so will the perfume line, the
books, and the TV specials.
I hope it is in the very distant future but the day will come when the
public says Katia who? and she is preparing for that day. I say more
power to her.
Liz C
Ann Lewis
> Katia said that in her book, that she had
> never known true heartbreak until she lost Sergei.
Having an affair with Kurt Browning seems to have gone a long way in
helping her overcome her "heartbreak." ;-)
>Those who have trully
> suffered a devastating loss in their lives can appreciate her courage and
> determination, and learn from it
Katia Whordeeva has not shown any courage or determination. She has
been mollycoddled by other skaters, especially those in SOI. Her
parents have assumed full care for her child. Katia cannot so much as
wipe her butt on her own. :-)
AJL
kathy burke
"allowed" to resume her life? Jealous much?
--
KABurke
Ann Lewis wrote in message <36AA75...@erols.com>...
Ann Lewis
>
> So, Miss Manners, how long does a widow need to mourn before she is
> "allowed" to resume her life?
Does "resuming her life" include bedding married men like Kurt Browning?
Maybe she'll decide on your husband next. :-)
AJL
susa...@webtv.net
And why keep getting the hair trimmed so constantly so that it never
grows out even a tiny tad? Just my opinion.....
kathy burke
Ann Lewis
>
> At least I have a husband......do you?
I can only imagine the sort of low life who would resort to marrying the
likes of something like you.
AJL
Tmoms
and even has requested for the press to stop asking her about Sergei's death.
She is trying to move on, and live a full life. She is young! She SHOULD move
on. And any suggestion that she should go home in black and mourn Sergei
forever is stupid.>>
Oh, do I agree with you! Here here! I think what happens is that some folks
have never suffered real heartbreak! Katia said that in her book, that she had
never known true heartbreak until she lost Sergei. Those who have trully
suffered a devastating loss in their lives can appreciate her courage and
determination, and learn from it; those who haven't might be perplexed? As a
single working mom who is NOT rich, I can say with certainty that Katia
inspired me, and that I am grateful for the example she set for all of us. Now
if I could only win the lottery, LOL!!!
Tmoms
DBNY9
>Katia has to support herself and her child. Most skating careers do not last
>a
>lifetime
>(except for Dick Button). She is young and has a long life ahead of her ( I
>hope) and many years of supporting her daughter. Her
>profession is skating and in order to do this she has to travel. It is
>wonderful that her parents are there to help raise Daria. I know that when I
>was widowed my parents were there to help. I don't think I could have made it
>without them.
>
> I don't blame her for making all the money she can while she still has a
>career, she will need it in the future.
>
> As for being seen with Illia or any other man, she's single and of age so
>it's her business who she goes with.
>
> As for the alligation that she was with Kurt, it take two to tango you
>know.
>Kurt was with her too if the rumors are true (which I doubt).
>
>Anyway it's not any of our business. This is not the U.S. Senate sent here to
>judge anyone.
Thank you Barb! As for Sergi (or Katia) going back to Russia...I know plenty
of Russians and not one of them wants to go back. Why would they? Have any of
you been reading about conditions in Russia lately? I just wish all those
Russian skaters would stop just living here and join up for real.
IceFurrow
Date: Sat, Jan 23, 1999 23:29 EST
Message-id: <36AAA1...@erols.com>
AJL>>
Oh, good grief! BASINGSTOKE, awready!
Furrow
CLIFFJXN
>need to keep harping on the fact that you wish Brian Orser would die a
>painful
OH, MY GOD!! What kind of person is Ann Lewis? Does she sleep with a picture
of Hitler under her pillow?
Cliff.
CLIFFJXN
>> never known true heartbreak until she lost Sergei.
>
>helping her overcome her "heartbreak." ;-)
Me-thinks the "lady" doth protest too much.
CLIFFJXN
>> "allowed" to resume her life?
>
>Does "resuming her life" include bedding married men like Kurt Browning?
> Maybe she'll decide on your husband next. :-)
>
Again with the affair nonsense. What is it with her, some kind of secret
desire to boff her best friend's husband?
blues...@hotmail.com
I almost agree, her hair cut looks kinda bad right now, with the inch tall cow
lick sticking up. her hairs looks like mine used to when i woke up in the
mornings BEFORE i styled it, all she really needs is some gell to get it under
control, and then it would stay put, but wouldnt look like she was trying to
get it to stay down and still would flow easy with her skating. its not a bad
haircut she just needs to do something with it. we burst out laughing at her
before she started skating b/c of her hair.
Sara Evans
-Brasseur and Eisler: Stars with a Twist
http://members.xoom.com/bestars
-Maya & Evgeny: A New Beginning
http://members.xoom.com/mu_ep
Mike
it's almost a "boylike" cut . . . reminds me of Peter Pan.
Mike
----------
Kaiju
blues...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> In article <9767-36A...@newsd-144.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
> susa...@webtv.net wrote:
> > Michelle desperately need bangs.
> > And why keep getting the hair trimmed so constantly so that it never
> > grows out even a tiny tad? Just my opinion.....
> >
> >
>
> I almost agree, her hair cut looks kinda bad right now, with the inch tall cow
> lick sticking up. her hairs looks like mine used to when i woke up in the
> mornings BEFORE i styled it, all she really needs is some gell to get it under
> control, and then it would stay put, but wouldnt look like she was trying to
> get it to stay down and still would flow easy with her skating. its not a bad
> haircut she just needs to do something with it. we burst out laughing at her
> before she started skating b/c of her hair.
Okay, since this raging hairdo controversy won't die...
WHERE do you people live? Michelle's haircut is the latest thing these days
in So. Cal. In fact, her version is tamer than most. The idea is that it is
supposed to look spiky, casual and tousled. It is an
anti-Dorothy-Hamill-wedge type of look. The last thing it should look like is
"pixie" or Leslie Caron "gamine". Walk around Melrose Ave., the beach areas,
high school and college campuses around here and that cut is all over the
place...on both men and women. In fact, the Supercuts chain advertises that
cut constantly on its tv commercials.
I think it looks just fine on her. Big deal about it being short. She
slicked her hair back for 8 years, and arguably the short haircut provides her
with more visible hair on her head than the bun did.
Maybe we'll all get lucky and she'll put some blonde highlights in it like her
sister, Karen did with her hair. Or maybe some blue or green or something.
Give you guys something real to discuss! Yeeesh.
Kaiju <who still hasn't ever seen hair skate...>
Briand Nystoruk
>>
>>A long time rumor has it that she (AJL) was after Sergi (while he was
married
>to Katia)
What have I missed?? Who is this??
MyBrian
>>> "allowed" to resume her life?
>>
>>Does "resuming her life" include bedding married men like Kurt Browning?
>> Maybe she'll decide on your husband next. :-)
>
>
after he rebuffed her, she took her jealousy out on Katia. She tried to bed a
married man and failed.
She must have then turned her sights on Kurt
and after he married Sonia, she started spreading about the both of them.
" God hath no fury like a woman scorned"
No one believers her but she just keeps posting these lies she makes up.
>
>Again with the affair nonsense. What is it with her, some kind of secret
>desire to boff her best friend's husband?
She keeps trying but has had no luck so far.
HILL JANET SWAN
>Maybe we'll all get lucky and she'll put some blonde highlights in it like her
>sister, Karen did with her hair. Or maybe some blue or green or something.
>Give you guys something real to discuss! Yeeesh.
About 12 years ago, I began skating in Evanston, Il, and there was a high
school girl who worked at the rink to help pay for her ice time. She was
known as "the girl with blue hair". Not that it was always blue.
Sometimes it was purple, and sometimes green, and sometimes orange.
No one really cared. It was just an idiosyncratic thing. I still
remember, though, that she cut quite a figure in competition --- gorgeous
floaty white dress, lyrical music. blue hair ........
janet
--
TaggFan
stating she won't be stating her beliefs with name calling as a feature. The
second message I read has Ann calling Katia "Whoredeeva". Never heard of Ann
before, but I recognise the psychological symptoms as similar to those of a
disruptive person on another list. What a shame one person's sickness has to
take up all this space.
Ann, I hope you get help. You sound like a terribly sad person to me.
DayDrm999
got the same one I used to have a few months ago. It's so much fun to not have
to do much to it except wash it and moisturize it. (Well, we have different
hair types, so she probably just uses Mousse or something.)
Daydrm, who's still debating on whether to let it all grow back or cut it all
off into a "natural."
Delete andgetit to reply.
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OperettaJK
>I almost agree, her hair cut looks kinda bad right now, with the inch tall
>cow lick sticking up. her hairs looks like mine used to when i woke up in the
>mornings BEFORE i styled it, all she really needs is some gell to get it
>under control, and then it would stay put, but wouldnt look like she was
trying to
>get it to stay down and still would flow easy with her skating. its not a bad
>haircut she just needs to do something with it. we burst out laughing at her
>before she started skating b/c of her hair.
In general, Asian hair texture is harder and stronger than other races. Hence,
hair may stand up with short hair cut. I think Michelle will look better with a
softer style with short hair bangs framing her face, a la Audrey Hepburn. To
get that, she needs to grow it just an inch and has a perm. That should soften
up the style.
Jas
CLIFFJXN
>>desire to boff her best friend's husband?
>
> She keeps trying but has had no luck so far.
ooooh. Thanks for the clairification.
CLIFFJXN
>judge anyone.
Tell it like it is sister!!
Cliff.
Reine Lily
>OH, MY GOD!! What kind of person is Ann Lewis? Does she sleep with a
>picture
>of Hitler under her pillow?
LOL! Allow me to invoke Godwin's Law now. This thread is over. =)
NazLvr
women's events >>
There is more to skating than just jumping. Katia is a beautiful skater, and
just because she doesn't do 10 triples a program, doesn't mean she can't skate.
She is an artist on the ice.
DesertRoaz
BABSKATE
but they really can't compete technically with the women skaters of today.
Oksanna bauil is also a beautiful skater but she has lost most of her technical
skills hopefully
she will get some of the technical difficulty
back.
barb
Tmoms
I do too. But then I was a pseudo punk rocker and Clash follower once (big
time). I kind of liked the cut on Michelle, though. She seemed tougher, a
bit, and I think God knows she needs to. But I prefer the softer rendition of
her cut, given the programs she is doing. I think the short cut is better for
her face, and more mature -- and she is so tiny! I'd love to see her get a bit
cocky around 2001.
Tmoms
CLIFFJXN
>>OH, MY GOD!! What kind of person is Ann Lewis? Does she sleep with a
>>picture
>>of Hitler under her pillow?
>
>LOL! Allow me to invoke Godwin's Law now. This thread is over. =)
>
>Lily
>
My point exactly.
Cliff.