Judge Marie-Reine Gougne : " Ten years of hell "

[David]

Given the French judge may be the center of controversy, I figured it
was worth seeing if she has web presence beyond figure skating scores.
She does, and its an interesting perspective on sexism in the world
of judging:

www.humanite.presse.fr/journal/2001/2001-01/2001-01-20/2001-01-20-056.html
(the babelfish translation wasn't particularly funny or easy on the
eyes, so I fixed it a little bit. people who actually can read french:
feel free to correct my translation, but I think I got the gist of
it).

Marie-Queen Gougne: "Ten years of hell"

International judge and member of the management committee of the
French Federation of the sports of ice.

"When I started to judge, I was a substitude. Over time, I got calls
to judge the day before a holiday because nobody else wanted to go. I
accepted all the assignments. Because, to succeed, a woman must
demonstrate that they are twenty times more reliable than a man. I
know many women who stopped because they did not have the energy to
fight this. In my case, people did a lot to try to eliminate me, often
with below the belt attacks. I received anonymous telephone calls.
Horrible for the person with whom I lived, moreover. They enter your
private life and they try to massacre you on everything. That was ten
years of hell for me. At the judges' table, we hear even worse
remarks, sometimes more cruel for the female skaters than for the male
skaters. Things like "large cows" if they are even 2 kilograms too
heavy, whereas if a boy had even just one they wouldn't be called a
"large pig"."

[Dennis Holland]

"David" <dwei...@qrio.com> wrote in message
news:50d3862b.02021...@posting.google.com...

> Given the French judge may be the center of controversy, I figured it
> was worth seeing if she has web presence beyond figure skating scores.
> She does, and its an interesting perspective on sexism in the world
> of judging:
>
> www.humanite.presse.fr/journal/2001/2001-01/2001-01-20/2001-01-20-056.html

> Marie-Queen Gougne: "Ten years of hell"
> International judge and member of the management committee of the
> French Federation of the sports of ice.
>
>
> "When I started to judge, I was a substitude. Over time, I got calls
> to judge the day before a holiday because nobody else wanted to go. I
> accepted all the assignments. Because, to succeed, a woman must
> demonstrate that they are twenty times more reliable than a man. I
> know many women who stopped because they did not have the energy to
> fight this. In my case, people did a lot to try to eliminate me, often
> with below the belt attacks. I received anonymous telephone calls.
> Horrible for the person with whom I lived, moreover. They enter your
> private life and they try to massacre you on everything. That was ten
> years of hell for me. At the judges' table, we hear even worse
> remarks, sometimes more cruel for the female skaters than for the male
> skaters. Things like "large cows" if they are even 2 kilograms too
> heavy, whereas if a boy had even just one they wouldn't be called a
> "large pig"."

Thanks for finding this, very interesting.
Maybe this will be the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back and she
will be so fed up with the corruption and abuses she will spill all. That
would also be courageous.

Meagan Leigh

[chaos_53]

For the disgrace she has now brought to the sport of figure skating, ten
more years of hell in the form of banishment from judging or officiating
would not be enough. Her conduct warrants banishment for life.

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[BottomLineGuySk8]

>Subject: Re: Judge Marie-Reine Gougne : " Ten years of hell "
>From: "Dennis Holland"

Too bad she took ten years to get around to being "courageous." I guess now is
better than never. Too bad she made an unethical deal with another judge.
What sort of ethics or code of honor do some of these judges practice anyway?

Can someone tell me where to find the judges oath" - it was spoken (taken?) at
the opening ceremony?

Bottom Line Guy

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I don't understand these filters, anyway. I mean, if you filter people, then
how will you know when they are saying things about you?

[CurtAdams]

chao...@hotmail.com writes:

>For the disgrace she has now brought to the sport of figure skating, ten
>more years of hell in the form of banishment from judging or officiating
>would not be enough. Her conduct warrants banishment for life.

Punish the whistleblower? Are you nuts? Do you want the
crooks to get even more assistance in covering this up?

*IF* she confessed to a real event (not yet proved) she should
be let off with a wristslap at most, as a kind of immunity for
testifying. The organizers of this are the ones who should be
banned for life without parole (no kidding; there's no other way
to do this.)

Now she ain't Senft, who IMO should be head of ice dance judging,
but she would deserve a big break.

Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com)
"It is better to be wrong than to be vague" - Freeman Dyson