Height of skaters
Jm Comes
competition before so the only time I see the skaters are on TV and you
can't tell how tall they are on that. So, how tall are skaters usually? I
remember one male pair skater (Anybody remember who said it?) that said he
was too tall for dance so he became an ice skater. I am 5' 10 1/2 and my
modeling agent says that I am going to grow taller!!!!! Yuck!! Is that
way too tall for skating? And one more question!! You know in speed
skating ( I know, I know, this NG is on figure not speed!!) are they
usually taller then the figure skaters? Please clue me in!! Thanks!!!
Have a nice weekend and as always drive safely!!!!
Liz
Blair Laugher
female pairs skaters I know are 5'-5'3".
Dancers are ususally taller, but in sinlges and pairs the shorter, the
better! The tallest lady I know of is Jennifer Robinson and I belive she is
5'7" (very tall by most standards).
I hope this is a little informative :)
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In article <369a1f2a...@news1.newscene.com>, X...@hotmail.com (Rich) writes:
>Michelle Kwan is 5'5".
Michelle Kwan is listed at 5'2". Perhaps she's taller in skates. :^)
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Rich wrote:
>
> On 9 Jan 1999 04:30:11 GMT, "Jm Comes" <jcc...@netins.net> wrote:
>
> >Hi! It's me the amateur skater again. =) I haven't seen an ice show or
> >competition before so the only time I see the skaters are on TV and you
> >can't tell how tall they are on that. So, how tall are skaters usually? I
>
> Tara is 5'0". Kristi Yamaguchi looks like about the same height.
> Midori Ito is a little shorter than Tara. Michelle Kwan is 5'5".
Try 5'2". Unless she's grown a heck of a lot in the last few months and
nobody has noticed.
> Scott
> Hamilton is a pretty short guy, not much over 5'.
5'3".
> Ilia Kulik I think
> is 5'10". This is definitely a sport dominated by short, skinny
> people.
Most of whom have hollow bones.
Kaiju
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BielmnSpin
>5'7" (very tall by most standards).
Isn't Lisa Marie Allen (at least) 5'8"?
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bielm...@aol.com (BielmnSpin) wrote:
> >The tallest lady I know of is Jennifer Robinson and I belive she is
> >5'7" (very tall by most standards).
>
>
Isn't Karen Kwan around 5'8?
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bielm...@aol.com (BielmnSpin) wrote:
> >The tallest lady I know of is Jennifer Robinson and I belive she is
> >5'7" (very tall by most standards).
>
> Isn't Lisa Marie Allen (at least) 5'8"?
>
I've met Lisa Marie and she's definitely 5'9" or maybe a bit taller, but it
has been nearly 20 years since she was a US medalist and no succeeding US
ladies top contender has been anything like that.. a couple like Kerrigan
and Bobek who are probably 5'4"-5'5" tower over most the ladies with whom
they compete.
Fred>
Jm Comes
probably grow till 6 foot. Scary huh!?!? All my brothers are over 6 foot.
Well, if speed skating is usually taller--should I switch maybe to that?
I'm using the height for ONE good use--I'm starting to model. I just
wanted to add ice skating to that list! =) Guess not! Oh, well. I can
always do it for fun!
Liz
Oscark24
Jm Comes
Oscark24 <osca...@aol.comjfdifhkd> wrote in article
<19990109135501...@ng-fu1.aol.com>...
> Don't let your height stop you! If you like figure skating, go for it!
>
Thanks!!!! I will continue doing it for fun, but don't count on seeing me
on TV anyday soon. =) Thanks again for that comment!! It meant a lot to
me!!
Liz
Virginia Blalock
>On 9 Jan 1999 04:30:11 GMT, "Jm Comes" <jcc...@netins.net> wrote:
>
>>Hi! It's me the amateur skater again. =) I haven't seen an ice show or
>>competition before so the only time I see the skaters are on TV and you
>>can't tell how tall they are on that. So, how tall are skaters usually? I
>
>Tara is 5'0". Kristi Yamaguchi looks like about the same height.
>Midori Ito is a little shorter than Tara. Michelle Kwan is 5'5". Scott
>Hamilton is a pretty short guy, not much over 5'. Ilia Kulik I think
>is 5'10". This is definitely a sport dominated by short, skinny
>people.
Kwan is 5'2" I believe and so is Scott.
Virginia
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>Hi! It's me the amateur skater again. =) I haven't seen an ice show or
>competition before so the only time I see the skaters are on TV and you
>can't tell how tall they are on that. So, how tall are skaters usually?
short. It's rare for a woman over 5'6" to be successful in the upper
ranks of figure skating, and most of them are well under that height.
Ice dancers tend to be taller than singles skaters, and pairs ladies the
smallest of all.
Paul Wylie and Scott Hamilton are pretty short 5'4"? or thereabouts, and
Orser is about 5'6" (I think) .... Boitano is 5'11", and Robin Cousins 6'
tall, but they are considered tall for figure skaters. Ide dancers and
pairs skaters tend to be taller.
>remember one male pair skater (Anybody remember who said it?) that said he
>was too tall for dance so he became an ice skater. I am 5' 10 1/2 and my
>modeling agent says that I am going to grow taller!!!!! Yuck!! Is that
>way too tall for skating?
Goodness no. You can skate, and accomplish quite a bit, it's just
unlikely that you will be doing triple jumps at worlds.
>And one more question!! You know in speed
>skating ( I know, I know, this NG is on figure not speed!!) are they
>usually taller then the figure skaters?
I don't really know, but I would guess that long legs are an advantage in
speed skating, so that it seems likely that taller speed skaters have an
advantage over shorter ones.
janet
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osca...@aol.comjfdifhkd (Oscark24) wrote:
> Don't let your height stop you! If you like figure skating, go for it!
Well, I'm 5'11", 200 lbs (kinda like a linebacker trying to look at least
a little graceful), 39 yo, with a bad back and I'm going for it!!! :)
Gnu
Shillelagh
HILL JANET SWAN wrote in message <778eoc$c...@peabody.colorado.edu>...
>
>Paul Wylie and Scott Hamilton are pretty short 5'4"? or thereabouts, and
>Orser is about 5'6" (I think)
I really like Scotty, but if he's over 5 feet, I'll eat my hat. There's no
way he's 5'4". He was skating side by side with Tara L. on the Howie
Mandell show the other day and the two of them looked to be the SAME height.
He is quite tiny.
Shelagh
HILL JANET SWAN
>>The tallest lady I know of is Jennifer Robinson and I belive she is
>>5'7" (very tall by most standards).
>
>Isn't Lisa Marie Allen (at least) 5'8"?
Taller, I think. As is JoJo Starbuck, who is essentially the same height
as Ken Shelley, her pairs partner.
In the list of "who do you miss most", my top picks are Starbuck/Shelley
and Paul Wylie.
janet
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HILL JANET SWAN
>Don't let your height stop you! If you like figure skating, go for it!
Absolutely. My dance coach (female) is about 6' tall, and skates
gloriously.
janet
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Isiafs5
as tall as possible and thus stand very erect with excellent posture compared
to the average person. This naturally develop excellent posture makes them
spin, triple and just skate better than taller poor posture people. Take it or
leave, I don't care.
BG ( soft knees wantabe)
actual isia 4.9 but I rounded up
Oscark24
sense that to do hard triples, a woman would need strength. Wouldn't a 5'10
muscular 150lb woman with no body fat have a better chance of landing a triple
axel than a 5'0 90lb anorexic?
Kaiju
Jazzigrl wrote:
>
> What about Rory Burghart? She seems extremly tall on T.V. Then again, that
> is T.V.
She is rather tall for a skater. Maybe 5'6"-5'7"? It was hard for me to tell
when she was wearing skates... She towered over me (like most of the world
doesn't...)
Elisanne98
got the best sit spin around...and despite everyone's predictions that an adult
that tall can't do an axel she's got an excellent one! She loves to
practice...it's a challenge for herself.
If you love to skate for skating's sake...go skate and don't let anyone tell
you that you can't!
Elisanne MacHardy Mead
~~~~~@~~~~~
PAULETTEB
>>>5'7"
Paulette
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In article <19990109201519...@ng-cf1.aol.com>, paul...@aol.com
(PAULETTEB) writes:
USFSA on AOL media guide info in the archives says Karen Kwan's 5'8".
Jazzigrl
is T.V.
car...@my-dejanews.com
Kaiju <ka...@NOSPAM.ecn.com> wrote:
>
>
> Jazzigrl wrote:
> >
> > What about Rory Burghart? She seems extremly tall on T.V. Then again,
that
> > is T.V.
>
> when she was wearing skates... She towered over me (like most of the world
> doesn't...)
>
that tall, though seeing Karen and Michelle side by side in the Mulan
special, Karen towers over Michelle......
car...@my-dejanews.com
dele...@aol.comkwat (DeleteN0t) wrote:
>
> In article <19990109201519...@ng-cf1.aol.com>, paul...@aol.com
> (PAULETTEB) writes:
>
> >>The tallest lady I know of is Jennifer Robinson and I belive she is
> >>>>5'7"
> >Isn't Karen Kwan 5'7"?
>
> USFSA on AOL media guide info in the archives says Karen Kwan's 5'8".
>
Thanks
DonaldC476
wondered whether or not that's a disadvantage in this sport. I had a litle
more than average difficulty in learning to spin (still have some trouble
centering, and can't seem to keep my rear end off the ice after attempting a
layback). I also wonder if being tall somehow gives the judges a better view
of your mistakes...
Actually, height may turn out not to be much f an issue; weight, however, is a
whole 'nother smoke (and a never-ending battle)!!!...
Don Cardoza
Oakland, NJ
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HILL JANET SWAN
>This is something rhat I think about, occasionally; I'm 6'1", an I've often
>wondered whether or not that's a disadvantage in this sport.
Height is a disadvantage. To understand why, consider that in both
spinning and jumping, and to a lesser degree in ANY move that includes a
rotational aspect (which is to say, just about everything done in figure
skating), the skater is like a top.
Now, think of a top spinning. So long as it is upright, it continues to
spin, pretty much in place, and fairly stably. When the "head" of the top
gets out of line with the "foot", the top begins to wobble, and the "foot"
begins to wander. The farther "tipped over" the top is, the worse it
becomes.
OK ..... if a tall person and a short person are both tipped over to the
same degree, there is MORE (proportionately) of the tall person away from
the foot, AND, the tall person's head is farther out of line than the
short person's.
Take a full-length pencil and a crayon. Lay both of them down on a piece
of paper, with their pointed ends touching the long edge of the paper, and
both of them tilted at about 30 degrees from perpendicular to the edge.
Now, draw a line from the "head" of the pencil down to the edge of the
paper, and perpendicular to the edge. Do the same with the crayon. The
distance between the tip of the pencil and the line drawn down from the
head is about 2 1/2 inches. The distance between the tip of the crayon
and the line drawn down from the top is about 1 1/4 inches.
Now imagine that these are skaters. Even if both of them are tilted
equally in the air, the taller skater's rotation will be less stable
because of the greater portion of her/his mass that is distant from the
"foot".
Now, remember that when a skater lands a jump, s/he comes down on a blade
that is 1/8" wide, with never more than about 4" of the length of the blad
in contact with the ice. So, s/he jumps up and rotates, and in order to
stand up on landing, s/he has to land so that the sum total of all forces
on her/his body have the effect of placing her/his center of mass balanced
directly over a blade that is 1/8" wide (but you really land on the
edge of that blade) and 4" long. the less of your mass you have located
"off-axis" the better. The shorter you are, the easier it is to
accomplish this.
janet
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DonaldC476
>spinning and jumping, and to a lesser degree >in ANY move that includes a
>rotational aspect (which is to say, just about >everything done in figure
>skating), the skater is like a top.
Add to this the additional challenge that tall men face, i.e. a high center of
gravity somewhere around his chest (a woman's center of gravity tends toward
her hips).
I am built like a linebacker, something I've always been pleased with (and
perhaps a little vain about). Ironic that I've chosen a sport in which this is
a liability! (the best male figure skaters tend to be built like squirrels).
I've found that (for me, at least) the secret to the spin is to shift my hips
slightly to the left (I am right-handed and spin counter-clockwise) and cant my
skating leg slightly inward. This gets my center of gravity right over the
point at which the blade contacts the ice. Staying on an inside edge while
doing this can be a little tricky, but it is dooable...
One of these days, I'm going to unlock the secret of how to keep my center of
gravity over the blades while executing a layback!!!..
Louis Epstein
:
: HILL JANET SWAN wrote in message <778eoc$c...@peabody.colorado.edu>...
Complete Book of the Olympics says Scott Hamilton is 5'2.5".
Louis Epstein
: In article <19990109111945...@ng19.aol.com>,
: bielm...@aol.com (BielmnSpin) wrote:
: > >The tallest lady I know of is Jennifer Robinson and I belive she is
: > >5'7" (very tall by most standards).
: >
: > Isn't Lisa Marie Allen (at least) 5'8"?
: >
:
: I've met Lisa Marie and she's definitely 5'9" or maybe a bit taller, but it
: has been nearly 20 years since she was a US medalist and no succeeding US
: ladies top contender has been anything like that.. a couple like Kerrigan
: and Bobek who are probably 5'4"-5'5" tower over most the ladies with whom
: they compete.
Well,Cassy Papajohn won the figures title twice and is 5'11"...
Louis Epstein
: Darn't!! =) I like figure skating. I guess it's not my thing since I'll
Not sure who the tallest female skaters of renown are...but certainly
there have been successes around 5'9"-5'10".
Louis Epstein
: BielmnSpin <bielm...@aol.com> wrote:
: >>The tallest lady I know of is Jennifer Robinson and I belive she is
: >>5'7" (very tall by most standards).
: >
: >Isn't Lisa Marie Allen (at least) 5'8"?
:
I have heard 5'9.5" for Allen.
Marina Kiellmann is 5'8".
: As is JoJo Starbuck, who is essentially the same height
Shillelagh
Louis Epstein wrote in message ...
>Shillelagh (she...@cat.howl) wrote:
>: I really like Scotty, but if he's over 5 feet, I'll eat my hat. There's
no
>: way he's 5'4". He was skating side by side with Tara L. on the Howie
>: Mandell show the other day and the two of them looked to be the SAME
height.
>: He is quite tiny.
>:
>: Shelagh
>
>Complete Book of the Olympics says Scott Hamilton is 5'2.5".
Aaaah, thanks Louis. I hope this book has less errors in it than the
USFSA book that just came out.
Shelagh
IGRANE
gravity over the blades while executing a layback!!!..
>>>
suggestion would be to lean forward before laying back, in other words get your
centre of gravity all in Front of you then when you bend backwards, your centre
is just about over the centre of the ball of your skate. For me, now a woman
at 5'11, skating has Always been a challenge, but I skated as I grew, I did not
start After I grew, Im sure this helped, but Believe me I knew once I hit 5'5
my singles career was over! and I was only 13!!! So I switched to dance,
needless to say I have not made a career out of skating, but I still skate for
the sheer joy of it, I cant dance with anyone for I can find a partner tall
enough;)) So back to singles.
Bon chance, with work and the right "feel" over your skate youll get the spin.
Look at Brian Boitano, you can litterly see when he goes into a scratch spin,
how his weight is shifted to one side in order to hold the force and the cetre
of the spin, you dont see the hip shift with Todd, hence the height and centre
of gravity.
JMO!!!!
Fauve;-)
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l...@put.com (Louis Epstein) wrote:
> Shillelagh (she...@cat.howl) wrote:
> :
> : HILL JANET SWAN wrote in message <778eoc$c...@peabody.colorado.edu>...
> : >
> : >Paul Wylie and Scott Hamilton are pretty short 5'4"? or thereabouts, and
> : >Orser is about 5'6" (I think)
> :
> : way he's 5'4". He was skating side by side with Tara L. on the Howie
> : Mandell show the other day and the two of them looked to be the SAME height.
> : He is quite tiny.
> :
> : Shelagh
>
> Complete Book of the Olympics says Scott Hamilton is 5'2.5".
When he was competing Scott was ususally described as 5'3" or even sometimes
5'4" --but then he had a mop of hair in those days.
Fred
IGRANE
<<<When's the last time a man did a layback on TV?
>>
Alexai Yagudin did one about a month ago that I saw on tv and in October saw
him do it live. Have seen Victor Petrenko do many on tv and live, over his long
career there are others,, shall I go on?
Fauve;-)
dmcb...@notes.bellcore.com
hil...@spot.Colorado.EDU (HILL JANET SWAN) wrote:
> DonaldC476 <donal...@aol.com> wrote:
> >This is something rhat I think about, occasionally; I'm 6'1", an I've often
> >wondered whether or not that's a disadvantage in this sport.
>
> spinning and jumping, and to a lesser degree in ANY move that includes a
> rotational aspect (which is to say, just about everything done in figure
> skating), the skater is like a top.
>
> spin, pretty much in place, and fairly stably. When the "head" of the top
> gets out of line with the "foot", the top begins to wobble, and the "foot"
> begins to wander. The farther "tipped over" the top is, the worse it
> becomes.
>
> OK ..... if a tall person and a short person are both tipped over to the
> same degree, there is MORE (proportionately) of the tall person away from
> the foot, AND, the tall person's head is farther out of line than the
> short person's.
>
> janet
>
To add to what Janet says, it's not the height alone, it's where your center
of gravity is that makes the most different. The longer your legs, the
higher your center of gravity tends to be.
If you have long legs, but you manage to keep your legs over your skates (so
that you are "tipped over" only from the waist up), you don't tend to have as
much of the weight out of whack and it tends to be less of a problem than if
your whole body is leaning out.
I am 5'9", quite leggy and somewhat busty, so I have a very high center of
gravity when I skate, which makes spins particularly difficult for me. I
don't have as much trouble with the jumps because I do get a lot of speed (in
general, the leggier you are, the easier that is, although anybody can skate
fast if they use the right technique). Speed can help a skater get enough
hang time to be able to make sure the body position stays balanced in a jump.
My son switched from pairs to ice dancing because of his height making
freestyle much more difficult. He is 6'3" and all leg. He is very fast, but
with his body proportions there was basically no gray area between perfect
and terrible jumps and spins. He is a lot happier ice dancing, where his
long legs give him a very graceful line and a lot of speed, and the emphasis
is on blade edges.
My son was finding the struggle to skate freestyle enough to take the fun out
of it -- I like freestyle so much that I don't care how hard my proportions
may make it. You've got to choose what suits you best. Don't let anybody
talk you out of what you like to do!! But recognize that there are physical
realities that could potentially impact how easily or quickly you progress.
digi
Valerie
Kaiju <ka...@NOSPAM.ecn.com> wrote:
>
>Jazzigrl wrote:
>>
>> What about Rory Burghart? She seems extremly tall on T.V. Then again, that
>> is T.V.
>
>She is rather tall for a skater. Maybe 5'6"-5'7"? It was hard for me to tell
>when she was wearing skates... She towered over me (like most of the world
>doesn't...)
In one of the ensemble things on tv, I saw her standing next to Josef
Svabocek (sp!) and she was nearly his height. So, if somebody knows how
tall HE is....
Val