Pelletier Married?
Fiona McQuarrie
mentioned that David Pelletier is married.
This is news to me. To who? And when?
Cheers, Fiona
MaZ
Pelletier). And they mentioned something about how he was just
recently married.
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Jocelyn
There was a segment on CTV about his marriage. I believe it was during
Canadians, probably before the short program. I can double check later. They
showed clips of S&P on practice ice, and mentioned another pair's marriage (Luc
Bradet and Josee Chouinard?).
Jocelyn
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David Fraser
>Fiona wrote:
>>In the discussion of the supposed Sale-Stojko "romance", a few people
>>mentioned that David Pelletier is married.
>>
>>This is news to me. To who? And when?
>
>There was a segment on CTV about his marriage. I believe it was during
>Canadians, probably before the short program. I can double check later. They
>showed clips of S&P on practice ice, and mentioned another pair's marriage (Luc
>Bradet and Josee Chouinard?).
David Pelletier is married to Marie-Josee (Mimi) Fortin. There has
been some talk that they have split up, but I don't recall any
official, or even semi-official discussion of this. Lots of gossip,
yes.
Luc Bradet has a son, so he may be married to someone, but it isn't
Josee Chouinard. Luc's skating partner, Marie-Claude Savard-Gagnon was
just married last year, to ? Ferguson.
Josee is married to Jean-Michel Bombardier, who used to skate pairs
with Mimi Fortin way back.
Regards, Dave Fraser (dfr...@nbnet.nb.ca)
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nonn...@aol.communique (Jocelyn) wrote:
> Fiona wrote:
> >In the discussion of the supposed Sale-Stojko "romance", a few people
> >mentioned that David Pelletier is married.
> >
> >This is news to me. To who? And when?
>
Sale, at the end of his partnership with Caroline Roy. I have heard
from quite good sources that his marriage is now caput (not sure of the
status legally) and that he and Jamie are a couple.>
Jean Lenzi
>
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Before you buy.
Dennis J Holland
skat...@aol.com wrote:
If they are involved, and I remember reading that they went to Edmonton
after the Natl. Ch. in Calgary to visit her family and friends, his body
language wasn't very good in Kiss N Cry after the free skate. She was
distraught and her coach was consoling her not Pelletier.
Dennis
PS Hoping for a rebound next season, they deserve it. Worlds just seems to
be unlucky for them, 99 injured and 00 mistakes cost them a medal.
mar...@my-deja.com
Fiona McQuarrie <mcqu...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> In the discussion of the supposed Sale-Stojko "romance", a few people
> mentioned that David Pelletier is married.
>
> This is news to me. To who? And when?
>
>
Might wanna drop Jimbo an email since he knows them. Though I doubt
he'll respond unless there is something negatively juicy to the
post.
Marie
Jimbo
skat...@aol.com wrote:
> In article <20000411213838...@ng-ch1.aol.com>,
> nonn...@aol.communique (Jocelyn) wrote:
> > Fiona wrote:
> > >In the discussion of the supposed Sale-Stojko "romance", a few people
> > >mentioned that David Pelletier is married.
> > >
> > >This is news to me. To who? And when?
> >
> I thought Pelletier got married the year before he started skating with
> Sale, at the end of his partnership with Caroline Roy. I have heard
> from quite good sources that his marriage is now caput (not sure of the
> status legally) and that he and Jamie are a couple.>
> Jean Lenzi
> >
And could you please tell me how ANY of this is YOUR business? Even if you
do have "good" sources... Skaters have personal lives... Please let them
live them..
Jimbo (a.k.a. The Roaming Canadian Skaters Advocate)
Jimbo
> Might wanna drop Jimbo an email since he knows them. Though I doubt
> he'll respond unless there is something negatively juicy to the
> post.
>
> Marie
>
And what exactly is that supposed to mean?
Jimbo
Angeldrd
sensitive about personal questions about them. However, to a certain extent,
people in the public eye (ie of their own free will) know that that comes with
the territory. Talking about if someone is married or not I don't believe is an
invasion of privacy. Even talking about if they had split up is not.
There is a fine line fans walk between being interested and invading, and alot
of it has to do with intent. I know I, myself, care a great deal about certain
skaters, and because of that are also interested in their personal lives. But
that also goes to say that alot of us fans try to be supportive of the skaters
when they have a tough time personally (for example when Sergei died, Scotty's
cancer or Rudy's HIV status). Technically those things were not our business
either, but because they endear themselves to us, we are interested in their
lives and in turn show our support and loyalty.
Jocelyn
>> Sale, at the end of his partnership with Caroline Roy. I have heard
>> from quite good sources that his marriage is now caput (not sure of the
>> status legally) and that he and Jamie are a couple.>
Seems like skating with attractive young brunettes will do that to one! Peter
Tchernyshev left his (Russian?) wife for Naomi Lang (hey - reported on ESPN,
it's not that elusive "gossip").
>his [Pelletier's] body
>language wasn't very good in Kiss N Cry after the free skate. She was
>distraught and her coach was consoling her not Pelletier.
Well, she was the one who made the mistakes while Pelletier had skated his
elements cleanly. I wouldn't be too happy with my partner, either. Whose body
language *would* be good after losing the world medal because of their
partner's mistakes? I just hope that Jamie doesn't feel the sole burden of the
blame and let it get to her. They're too good of a pairs team.
Brian
Jocelyn wrote in message <20000412171246...@ng-ch1.aol.com>...
>Seems like skating with attractive young brunettes will do that to one!
Peter
>Tchernyshev left his (Russian?) wife for Naomi Lang (hey - reported on
ESPN,
>it's not that elusive "gossip").
When did ESPN report this?
tank
>Seems like skating with attractive young
> brunettes will do that to one! Peter
> Tchernyshev left his (Russian?) wife for
> it's not that elusive "gossip").
Peter's ex-wife Natalya Annenko is gorgeous.
Trudi Marrapodi
ange...@aol.com (Angeldrd) wrote:
> Jimbo, if, in fact, you DO know them, I can understand where you might be
> sensitive about personal questions about them. However, to a certain extent,
> people in the public eye (ie of their own free will) know that that comes with
> the territory. Talking about if someone is married or not I don't
believe is an
> invasion of privacy. Even talking about if they had split up is not.
It depends on how far it goes. Simple yeses and nos are one thing. Further
commentary is another.
> There is a fine line fans walk between being interested and invading, and alot
> of it has to do with intent. I know I, myself, care a great deal about certain
> skaters, and because of that are also interested in their personal lives. But
> that also goes to say that alot of us fans try to be supportive of the skaters
> when they have a tough time personally (for example when Sergei died, Scotty's
> cancer or Rudy's HIV status). Technically those things were not our business
> either, but because they endear themselves to us, we are interested in their
> lives and in turn show our support and loyalty.
Sure. But that doesn't mean they owe it in return to give us every little
detail of their personal lives. They don't.
--
Trudi
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--Irina Slutskaya's words for us all to live by,
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Bev102554
ago. Nothing juicy about it.
Jocelyn
>Peter
>ESPN,
>>it's not that elusive "gossip").
>
1999 Nationals OD.
azsk8fan
>Well, she was the one who made the mistakes while Pelletier had
skated his
>elements cleanly. I wouldn't be too happy with my partner,
either. Whose body
>language *would* be good after losing the world medal because
of their
>partner's mistakes? I just hope that Jamie doesn't feel the
sole burden of the
>blame and let it get to her. They're too good of a pairs team.
>
I'm sorely disappointed in him. They are a TEAM - win lose or
draw and should be supportive of each other at ALL times - good,
bad or otherwise.... The next mistake could easily be his as no
one is perfect - he should keep that thought in mind. Unless a
partner is messing up badly - on a consistent basis - and due,
perhaps to a lack of serious training, too much partying, etc. I
think they need to stay united. Now, if the partner is goofing
off to such an extent that it's affecting their performances
then not only does the aggrieved partner have cause to be upset
but should also lay down the law - get serious or get lost. I
recall seeing some unpleasant, negative reactions from both
Anton S. and Chinese male Zhao, both of which gave me an
unsettling feeling - I can only hope the Canadians are above that
Shillelagh
"azsk8fan" <azsk...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:2239f0a4...@usw-ex0105-036.remarq.com...
> I hadn't noticed that on the telecast but if it's true then
> I'm sorely disappointed in him. They are a TEAM - win lose or
> draw and should be supportive of each other at ALL times - good,
> bad or otherwise.... The next mistake could easily be his as no
> one is perfect - he should keep that thought in mind.
Perhaps you should have seen the interview done with him and Jamie by Rob
Faulds right after they skated. David was a true gentleman in his comments.
Also, I just went back and looked at the tape of them in the kiss 'n cry.
David was sitting looking very dejected, as was Jamie. At one point after
the marks came up, he hung his head. That was about it. Here are some of
the comments made by David while being interviewed:
" Sport is life you know, and life brings you some hard times and so does
sport. This is nothing compared to what life can bring you, and I still
enjoy skating as much as I did an hour ago. (big smile on his face). We did
top 5, which is what we wanted to do, maybe not the way we wanted to do it,
but we did it. I'm going back home with my head held high."
Then Rod asked Jamie about her feelings - she said the right things, then
made a comment about how she messed up. David was looking at her the whole
time, and when she made the "messed up" comment, he shook his head no.
- I can only hope the Canadians are above that.
I believe they are - David strikes me as a very mature young man, and during
an interview done later (next day or so) in a sidewalk cafe with Debbie
Wilkes, he had nothing but praise and support for Jamie. If I can ever find
it again on my tape, I'll send some quotes from it. He certainly is no
Lloyd Eisler in the kiss 'n cry - thank heavens.
Shelagh
Jocelyn
>an interview done later (next day or so) in a sidewalk cafe with Debbie
>Wilkes, he had nothing but praise and support for Jamie. If I can ever find
>it again on my tape, I'll send some quotes from it.
Thanks Shelagh. That is certainly very nice to hear.
>He certainly is no
>Lloyd Eisler in the kiss 'n cry - thank heavens.
Care to explain further? Brasseur & Eisler's competitive days were before my
skatefan days. Thanks.
MaZ
but she's not really consistent with the triple toe and double
axel (especially the latter). Is she better doing another triple
(salchow, loop) in which she and David should try doing sbs?
Cuz I know Pelletier was a singles. The sbs should be the
easiest element for former singles competitors.
Tuggy
<sweetheart_hear...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>I have a question: Was Jamie a good singles skater? No offence,
>but she's not really consistent with the triple toe and double
>axel (especially the latter). Is she better doing another triple
>(salchow, loop) in which she and David should try doing sbs?
>Cuz I know Pelletier was a singles. The sbs should be the
>easiest element for former singles competitors.
Jamie didn't have consistant triples as a singles skater. I remember
seeing an interview with her in Edmonton in about 96-97 or so, and she
commmented about that herself. Said that once you get to Senior's you
have to have the triples or you don't get anywhere, and that was her
problem with continuing her career as a singles skater.
Tuggy
Shillelagh
"Jocelyn" <nonn...@aol.communique> wrote in message
news:20000414010308...@ng-md1.aol.com...
> >I believe they are - David strikes me as a very mature young man, and
during
> >an interview done later (next day or so) in a sidewalk cafe with Debbie
> >Wilkes, he had nothing but praise and support for Jamie. If I can ever
find
> >it again on my tape, I'll send some quotes from it.
>
> Thanks Shelagh. That is certainly very nice to hear.
I rechecked my tape - I can't believe it, but I guess I didn't tape the
interview Debbie did with them. (Hitting myself up the side of the head!)
>
> >He certainly is no
> >Lloyd Eisler in the kiss 'n cry - thank heavens.
>
> Care to explain further? Brasseur & Eisler's competitive days were before
my
> skatefan days. Thanks.
I found Lloyd to be very uncaring of Isabelle when they were a young team -
until their 2nd last year as eligibles. (I think he finally grew up by then)
I don't remember which competition it was, but I distinctly remember him
stomping right off, leaving her in the k&c by herself. Other times, if
they had had a bad skate (usually it was because she had fallen on the
double axel), he seemed to have what looked like nasty comments to her in
the k&c. He was just generally immature and not able to handle the
disappointments. He's also very outspoken and perhaps hadn't learned to
"stifle himself" to support his partner.
Shelagh
DSavoy/KBranch
> I found Lloyd to be very uncaring of Isabelle when they were a young
team -
> until their 2nd last year as eligibles. (I think he finally grew up by
then)
> I don't remember which competition it was, but I distinctly remember him
> stomping right off, leaving her in the k&c by herself. Other times, if
> they had had a bad skate (usually it was because she had fallen on the
> double axel), he seemed to have what looked like nasty comments to her in
> the k&c. He was just generally immature and not able to handle the
> disappointments. He's also very outspoken and perhaps hadn't learned to
> "stifle himself" to support his partner.
> Shelagh
The thing with Lloyd was that he was hyper-competitive (perhaps from his
hockey playing days). He absolutely can't stand to lose. They talk about
these incidents in their book, and you're right - he did grow out of his
more unsportsmanlike ways after 92. The behaviour you describe (stomping out
of k&c) occured at the 92 Olympics where he expected to do better than
third. Lloyd says that he was mad at himself, and that the press
misrepresented his actions. He does realize, however, that he shouldn't have
left Isabelle alone and is apologetic about the whole ugly incident. Their
program that year (I saw them at Canadians in Moncton where they didn't have
a clean long) was not very well liked (the costumes were white with beading
and pieces of fabric all over the place), and their performances had not
been that well received all year long. I can't remember the music offhand
but I think it was also quite surreal. Lloyd was recuperating from knee
surgery that year and the previous, so it is possible that their training
was comprimised.
The attitude change can also be seen in the style of their programs after
92. Up until that point, Lloyd's skating style and personality dominated and
the programs were athletic and overpowering. In 1993, their programs became
decidly more lyrical and artistic, while maintaining their high degree of
difficulty (especially lifts). Isabelle says in the book that she became
much more comfortable with the programs in the later stages of their
eligible career because they were softer and more expressive. Her skating
became more consistent as a result. This is an important lesson for pair
teams to learn - style is a big factor.
One of the reasons that you don't often see them compete in the professional
competitions is because of Lloyd's competitive personality. When they first
turned pro, they competed but Lloyd couldn't stand that "entertainment" side
of pro competitions - they seemed rigged and the judging much poorer than
ISU standards. (Isabelle's heart condition is the other reason why they
don't do as much skating as you would expect).
Hope this enlightens you,
KIM
--
D. Savoy/K. Branch
Fredericton, NB, Canada
kimd...@sprint.ca
tank
>The thing with Lloyd was that he was
> hyper-competitive (perhaps from his
> hockey playing days). He absolutely
> can't stand to lose. They talk about
> these incidents in their book, and you're
> right - he did grow out of his more
> unsportsmanlike ways after 92.
Unfortunately, Lloyd didn't grow out of his more unsportsmanlike ways
after '92. As a pro he was still acting like a jerk when the judging
didn't go *his way*.
IMO being hyper-competitive isn't a very good excuse for displays of
poor sportsmanship. Most successful elite level skaters are
hyper-competitive, but many still manage to act in a sportsmanlike
manner.
Margaret Burwell
MaZ (sweetheart_hear...@yahoo.com.invalid) writes:
> I have a question: Was Jamie a good singles skater? No offence,
> but she's not really consistent with the triple toe and double
> axel (especially the latter). Is she better doing another triple
> (salchow, loop) in which she and David should try doing sbs?
> Cuz I know Pelletier was a singles. The sbs should be the
> easiest element for former singles competitors.
Not necessarily. There is light years of difference between being
able to do the jump and being able to do the jump in unison with another
skater.
Marg
Jocelyn
>> but she's not really consistent with the triple toe and double
>> axel (especially the latter). Is she better doing another triple
>> (salchow, loop) in which she and David should try doing sbs?
Uh, not that I've ever seen. I have a tape of her short program from the 97
Canadians, where she skated singles, and she landed 3toe, 3flip with cheaty
steps on the end, 2axel. A great spinner back then as she is now, and lovely
presentation. But she seemed THRILLED in the k&c with her performance - like
it was a surprise.
And besides, doing a jump next to someone in unison is much more difficult -
you have to time the entrance, pick at the same time whether you're ready or
not, etc. Makes it very hard. It's interesting that a lot of young girls that
aren't very good jumpers are encouraged to go into pairs or even into dance.
janet swan hill
> Not necessarily. There is light years of difference between being
>able to do the jump and being able to do the jump in unison with another
skater.
>
>Marg
In recent years, "highlight" moves in which a subset of a synchro team does a
freeskating move as part of the overall manoeuvre has been allowed.
Similarly, there has been some relaxation in the strictures against the whole
team doing freeskating moves.
We all know how difficult it seems to be for a pairs team to perform a
synchronized spin, but at Synchro Worlds we were treated to a number of teams
doing so, either in subsets, or as the whole team.
Sweden 1, for instance (Team Surprise) did a full-team synchronized upright
spin of about 4 revolutions. They all had the free leg extended at precisely
the same angle, and the spins were ALL COMPLETELY SYNCHRONIZED. It was
amazing.
janet