waggenhoffer
Rich
He died of aids. Here's a news story.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/19991214/sp/obit_wagenhoffer_1.html
Morag Carnie
name correctly (with one "g")?
I had the good fortune to see Robert Wagenhoffer live in one of the
"Skating" tours, and on TV in a number of pro competitions. Besides the
spectacular cartwheel, I remember him for a warm, rather gentle presence in
performance, and intricacy and detail - and fun - in his choreographic
response to his music.
It is a very sad loss.
Morag
Rich <Pend...@LadyoftheLake.com> wrote in message
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Fiona McQuarrie
: He died of aids. Here's a news story.
: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/19991214/sp/obit_wagenhoffer_1.html
And his name has one "g", which you would see if you had bothered to look
at the URL you posted.
Cheers, Fiona
Ann Vanderlaan
>As a small mark of respect, could we make a collective effort to spell his
>name correctly (with one "g")?
Unfortunately, even the media services mispell it -- for example
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/19991214/sp/obit_wagenhoffer_1.html
(URL is correct, article is a mess)
Barbara Hoffman
> >name correctly (with one "g")?
>
> Unfortunately, even the media services mispell it -- for example
>
> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/19991214/sp/obit_wagenhoffer_1.html
>
> (URL is correct, article is a mess)
The three newspaper articles I've read all misspelled it with two g's.
Barbara
"I couldn't get over how they spoke French." - Denise Richards, the latest
James Bond Girl, after her first trip to Paris
Smallovian Insider
writes:
In Richard's defense, the headline and story text misspelled Mr. W's name, and
Mr. W's competitive days pre-dated Tara's, so he has no frame of reference upon
which to draw.
I don't remember anything of Mr. W's skating, beyond a bit part in a Nutcracker
on Ice (as the Uncle, IIRC)- perhaps it was the Detroiter of Love version? I'm
impressed by the fond memories posted here, and wish there were a way to view
his amateur performances, but I don't suppose there are any tapes from that
time.
Peg
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>I don't remember anything of Mr. W[agenhoffer]'s skating, beyond a bit part
in a Nutcracker
>on Ice (as the Uncle, IIRC)- perhaps it was the Detroiter of Love version?
I'm
>impressed by the fond memories posted here, and wish there were a way to
view
>his amateur performances, but I don't suppose there are any tapes from that
>time.
>
>Peg
Robert competed during the days when Wide World of Sports would splice an
hour of skating with thirty minutes of something like boxing and call it
"coverage of the U S National Championships". Very little of *anyone's*
competitive skating made it onto US television in the late 70's and early
80's. I remember that ABC joined Robert's long program *in progress* in
1981 or 1982, and he finished third and second in those years. And Dick
Button was a Wagenhoffer fan! I was fortunate to see Robert live at
Nationals in 1979, 1980, and 1982. He was a wonderful free skater--the
person I most looked forward to seeing, even more than Scott Hamilton. I
remember Robert for good jumps, smoothness, and musicality. Many years
after he turned professional, he noted in an interview that he had not been
fond of training as an amateur. I wonder what we would have seen if he had
worked harder at his skating in his competitive years.
Ann Craven
Sk8Maven
> I don't remember anything of Mr. W's skating, beyond a bit part in a
> of Love version?
He *choreographed* version 2 (Todd/Nicole/Peggy, 1996), and I thought
the choreography was much more interesting than version 1
(Baiul/Petrenko plus sometimes Boitano). Essentially the same
choreography was recycled for version 3 (Calla/Rocky/Detroiter of Love),
but it was all stale and warmed-over by then. :-(
Maven
Smallovian Insider
writes:
>Smallovian Insider wrote:
>> I don't remember anything of Mr. W's skating, beyond a bit part in a
>> Nutcracker on Ice (as the Uncle, IIRC)- perhaps it was the Detroiter
>> of Love version?
>
>He *choreographed* version 2 (Todd/Nicole/Peggy, 1996),
Cool. A local UHF station just aired that tonight. I taped it and will watch it
with this in mind. (I've never seen this version, despite the notoriety of the
95-96 Nutcracker tour)
> and I thought
>the choreography was much more interesting than version 1
>(Baiul/Petrenko plus sometimes Boitano). Essentially the same
>choreography was recycled for version 3 (Calla/Rocky/Detroiter of Love),
>but it was all stale and warmed-over by then. :-(
Interesting. Thanks.
kevin.a...@lmco.com
I would think he would have had access to the proper medicine. Are there new
strains going around that are immune to current treatment?
Kevin
HILL JANET SWAN
No matter how much better the new drugs are than the old, eventually, AIDS
still wins out. Additionally, to some extent, the effectiveness of the
drugs is affected by how soon they were used. Someone who contracted HIV,
and whose HIV developed into AIDS some time ago wouldn't have had the
better drugs to use when they would have done the most good. (mind you, I
have no idea when Wagenhoffer learned he was HIV positive -- this is just
a general observation)
janet
--
Smallovian Insider
>I thought they had drugs these days that were effective supressing the AIDS
>virus.
>I would think he would have had access to the proper medicine. Are there new
>strains going around that are immune to current treatment?
There are associated disease processes that get to the body, which thrive in a
person with a depressed immune system. And "suppression" does not mean the
infection is rendered harmless.
Biased Observer
>I would think he would have had access to the proper medicine. Are there new
>strains going around that are immune to current treatment?
There are new drugs *more* effective in *delaying* the onset of Aids.
However, it is not equally effective for all HIV patients taking the
drug combos, and certain newer and more effective drug protocols are
for newly infected HIV cases, not Aids cases. These drug protocols are
also usually very aggressive, and can affect the patient more than
HIV/Aids itself.
It is not the virus or Aids that kills you, but the opportunistics
infections that your body can no longer fight. The acronyms are: HIV -
Human Immuno-Deficiency Virus; and Aids - Acquired Immune Deficiency
Syndrome (Aids). The key phrase is "immune deficiency" -- you are left
without the army of cells that keeps the most basic infections at bay,
and these eventually wear down the human body beyond repair.
weichi
rla...@ziplink.net
kevin.a...@lmco.com wrote:
> I thought they had drugs these days that were effective supressing the
AIDS virus.
> I would think he would have had access to the proper medicine. Are
there new
> strains going around that are immune to current treatment?
This post is an excellent example of why AIDS education, including
onging education, is so important. Kevin has always come across to me as
a bright, well-informed guy, but like many people he's heard the media
hype about new treatments. Many people now believe that AIDS is no big
deal, that it can be, if not cured, at least rendered a relatively
harmless chronic condition.
The drug therapies are not effective on everyone, for the reasons other
posters mentioned. And, as other posters mentioned, the therapies
themselves can have side effects (not to mention being very expensive
and not available to everyone).
People need to be reminded that HIV is still a killer.
--Ruth
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NotDeby
>He *choreographed* version 2 (Todd/Nicole/Peggy, 1996)
Not to... uh... speak ill of the dead, but I was thinking how much better
I liked version 1. There's so much "dead space" in version 2 (although I like
some of the cast). I'm a little sad to hear that he was responsible for the
second version.
NotDeby
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"J'ever see New Delhi?" Oblio said, "No."
"Well, that's it. You see what you want to see and you hear
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Sk8Maven
>
> >He *choreographed* version 2 (Todd/Nicole/Peggy, 1996)
>
> Not to... uh... speak ill of the dead, but I was thinking how much
> better I liked version 1. There's so much "dead space" in version 2
> (although I like some of the cast). I'm a little sad to hear that he
> was responsible for the second version.
I wonder whether part of the problem was that he was basically reworking
what had been intended as a "star vehicle" the previous year, rather
than creating something new. I did think the party scene (first act)
worked much better because there was always something going on (even if
it didn't always relate directly to the "storyline", what there was of
that). It's pretty hard to mess up the battle of the toy soldiers vs.
the mice, except that I think *everybody* missed a bet in *every*
version -- Clara should have thrown *something* at the Mouse King. Not
her skate, obviously :-), but a small pillow or cushion would have done
nicely. The exchange between Nutcracker and Prince was handled better
(though it *was* an exchange, since in all cases in this series the
roles were filled by two different skaters) -- it's hard to make that
work on-ice, so one ducking off while the other ducked on was "close
enough".
The second act was noticeably weaker (than the previous year's version),
probably because Peggy Fleming was *not* up to an extended role and much
of the Sugarplum Fairy's music and choreography had to be handed off to
a written-in Snow Queen (snow has very little to do with candies). Then
again, the second act is *never* the dramatically strongest part of the
story anyway, consisting as it does of a series of divertissements
loosely strung on a basic theme (sweets from around the world). And
several numbers really *demanded* precision/synchro work -- I don't
suppose there are any pro precision skating teams?
Overall, I think version 2 was more coherent -- there wasn't the same
concentration on two/three stars at the expense of everyone and
everything else. But I wouldn't call either one a grand masterpiece. :-)
And as for version 3, let's be charitable and forget it. :-)
Here's a challenge for whoever wants to answer: what would be your
"ideal" version of Nutcracker on Ice, how would you develop the
production, and which skaters would you cast? :-)
Maven
Currently and obviously spamblocked :-)
Jim Reuter
Sk8Maven wrote:
My ideal version would be Robert Wagenhoffer still alive, exhibiting the joy
that he took in skating, and still there for his friends. I know some of
the people he worked with over the years are taking his death pretty hard, a
measure of the man perhaps more important than his considerable contribution
to the skating world. I remember marveling at his jumping and spinning in
both directions, pretty uncommon, different, creative. I can't count all
the shows I have seen that he choreographed. I wish I could keep counting.
But I can't - he is gone. And the skating world is diminished by his
passing, while richer because he was here at all.
Trudi Marrapodi
"jhre...@earthlink.net"@mail.earthlink.net wrote:
> Sk8Maven wrote:
>
> > Maven commented on R. Wagenhoffer:
> > >
> > > >He *choreographed* version 2 (Todd/Nicole/Peggy, 1996)
Ahem...that would be Todd/Nicole/Brian/Peggy...(Brian Orser actually
skated more than Peggy).
> > NotDeby wrote:
> > > Not to... uh... speak ill of the dead, but I was thinking how much
> > > better I liked version 1. There's so much "dead space" in version 2
> > > (although I like some of the cast). I'm a little sad to hear that he
> > > was responsible for the second version.
> >
> > I wonder whether part of the problem was that he was basically reworking
> > what had been intended as a "star vehicle" the previous year, rather
> > than creating something new. I did think the party scene (first act)
> > worked much better because there was always something going on (even if
> > it didn't always relate directly to the "storyline", what there was of
> > that). It's pretty hard to mess up the battle of the toy soldiers vs.
> > the mice, except that I think *everybody* missed a bet in *every*
> > version -- Clara should have thrown *something* at the Mouse King. Not
> > her skate, obviously :-), but a small pillow or cushion would have done
> > nicely. The exchange between Nutcracker and Prince was handled better
> > (though it *was* an exchange, since in all cases in this series the
> > roles were filled by two different skaters) -- it's hard to make that
> > work on-ice, so one ducking off while the other ducked on was "close
> > enough".
I would agree, because the whole business the previous season where Brian
Boitano and Victor Petrenko were essentially playing two equal "starring"
roles was kind of confusing. Having the Nutcracker Prince appear only at
the time he is rescued, and then be supplanted for the whole rest of the
show by Drosselmeier, just plain seemed strange. It just smacked of
"trying desperately to accommodate two stars at once, while puzzling a lot
of people." I, for one, was glad to see Todd Eldredge play the Prince and
do the prince things, while Brian Orser played Drosselmeier and did the
Drosselmeier things, and never the twain shall meet. I'd had the pleasure
of seeing Brian as the Prince in the theater tour the season before (and
he did it wonderfully!).
> > The second act was noticeably weaker (than the previous year's version),
> > probably because Peggy Fleming was *not* up to an extended role and much
> > of the Sugarplum Fairy's music and choreography had to be handed off to
> > a written-in Snow Queen (snow has very little to do with candies).
True, but at least it gave us a chance to see the talents of Kristen Vanick.
> > Then
> > again, the second act is *never* the dramatically strongest part of the
> > story anyway, consisting as it does of a series of divertissements
> > loosely strung on a basic theme (sweets from around the world).
True. A strong plot it has not.
> > And
> > several numbers really *demanded* precision/synchro work -- I don't
> > suppose there are any pro precision skating teams?
Not that I know of. But I would have liked to see an *amateur* one go on
the road to play the Waltzing Flowers, if nothing else. I'm sure the
logistics would have been a horror, but it would have improved very
greatly what was one of the lengthiest, and definitely turned out to be
the most boring, parts of the show.
> > Overall, I think version 2 was more coherent -- there wasn't the same
> > concentration on two/three stars at the expense of everyone and
> > everything else. But I wouldn't call either one a grand masterpiece. :-)
> > And as for version 3, let's be charitable and forget it. :-)
Probably a good idea.
> > Here's a challenge for whoever wants to answer: what would be your
> > "ideal" version of Nutcracker on Ice, how would you develop the
> > production, and which skaters would you cast? :-)
> >
> > Maven
> > Currently and obviously spamblocked :-)
>
> My ideal version would be Robert Wagenhoffer still alive, exhibiting the joy
> that he took in skating, and still there for his friends.
You know, he would have made a great Drosselmeier. I think he would have
given it a Doug Henning type of touch. ;-)
> I know some of
> the people he worked with over the years are taking his death pretty hard, a
> measure of the man perhaps more important than his considerable contribution
> to the skating world. I remember marveling at his jumping and spinning in
> both directions, pretty uncommon, different, creative. I can't count all
> the shows I have seen that he choreographed. I wish I could keep counting.
> But I can't - he is gone. And the skating world is diminished by his
> passing, while richer because he was here at all.
You said it.
--
Trudi
"What did we as a species do to deserve such a superlative skater?"
--Lorrie Kim, on Brian Orser
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Sk8Maven
> > > > >He *choreographed* version 2 (Todd/Nicole/Peggy, 1996)
>
> Ahem...that would be Todd/Nicole/Brian/Peggy...(Brian Orser actually
> skated more than Peggy).
Oops, sorry, Trudi!!! And my apologies to Brian too!!!
(me again)
> > > The exchange between Nutcracker and Prince was handled better
> > > (though it *was* an exchange, since in all cases in this series
> > > the roles were filled by two different skaters) -- it's hard to
> > > make that work on-ice, so one ducking off while the other ducked
> > > on was "close enough".
>
> I would agree, because the whole business the previous season where
> Brian Boitano and Victor Petrenko were essentially playing two equal
> "starring" roles was kind of confusing. Having the Nutcracker Prince
> appear only at the time he is rescued, and then be supplanted for the
> whole rest of the show by Drosselmeier, just plain seemed strange. It
> just smacked of "trying desperately to accommodate two stars at once,
> while puzzling a lot of people."
Oh, it was worse than that. BB was *not* signed for the entire run of
the tour - just certain select performances - and the rest of the time
the Prince role was filled by Viktor's kid brother Vladimir. In fact, if
you buy the tape of this show, you don't get BB at all, you get Vlad.
(Fortunately, Jacksonville *was* on BB's short list, so I actually got
to see him skate live. :-)
Scuttlebutt at the time had it that BB was originally supposed to play
Drosselmeier and Viktor the Prince, but when BB discovered serious
conflicts in his schedule, the roles were switched so that BB could drop
in and out as required.
> I, for one, was glad to see Todd Eldredge play the Prince and
> do the prince things, while Brian Orser played Drosselmeier and did
> the Drosselmeier things, and never the twain shall meet.
Todd did the full run of the tour, too, unlike BB.
> I'd had the pleasure of seeing Brian as the Prince in the theater tour
> the season before (and he did it wonderfully!).
I'm sure he did. Sorry I missed him. :-(
> > > The second act was noticeably weaker (than the previous year's
> > > version), probably because Peggy Fleming was *not* up to an
> > > extended role and much of the Sugarplum Fairy's music and
> > > choreography had to be handed off to a written-in Snow Queen
> > > (snow has very little to do with candies).
>
> True, but at least it gave us a chance to see the talents of Kristen
> Vanick.
Aha, *that's* who that was! Looks as though she's in the same height
class as Lisa-Marie Allen, or very near it. Wish these things came with
cast lists!
Maven
NotDeby
not...@aol.comblahblah wrote:
> Maven commented on R. Wagenhoffer:
>>He *choreographed* version 2 (Todd/Nicole/Peggy, 1996) [and Brian ")]
>
> Not to... uh... speak ill of the dead, but I was thinking how much
>better I liked version 1. There's so much "dead space" in version 2
>(although I like some of the cast). I'm a little sad to hear that he
>was responsible for the second version.
Then, Maven wrote:
>I wonder whether part of the problem was that he was basically reworking
>what had been intended as a "star vehicle" the previous year, rather
>than creating something new...
(Snipping almost everything, because I think it's easier to make some
direct comments)
I think part of the problem for both arena productions (I think I 'did'
see one airing of the stage version, but can't recall specifics) was treating
it as a star vehicle. And there are those little annoying details, as in the
first production, where there is no pas de deux for the Prince and Clara/Marie
(or the Sugar Plum Fairy and her Cavalier); they both just have their own
variation and occupy the ice together for a short amount of time. But they
basically had a similar thing with the second version, too - meaning they don't
even travel to the Kingdom of Sweets together or anything.
Anyway, both versions mangled what story there is to the Nutcracker. But
my greater dislike is regarding the choreography itself. In this case, I 'do'
think it weakens choroegraphic possibilities when one needs to tailor all
choreography to the skaters, rather than creating choreography that the skaters
then must do, whether it consists of "strong points" or "signature moves" or
not. In the second version, however, I think the choreography is less
interesting: slower, less imaginative, leaving dead space in the pace of the
piece, rather than helping it speed along. It just doesn't "carry me along" in
any way. It keeps stopping and resuming. I got little sense of it relating to
the narrative in any way.
But there's lots to be disappointed in, in both versions. Missed seeing the
St. Petersburg State Ice Ballet do "Nutcracker" this year. Sigh. Maybe next
year.
Trudi Marrapodi
<sk8m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > > Maven commented on R. Wagenhoffer:
> > > > > >He *choreographed* version 2 (Todd/Nicole/Peggy, 1996)
> >
> Trudi Marrapodi wrote:
> > Ahem...that would be Todd/Nicole/Brian/Peggy...(Brian Orser actually
> > skated more than Peggy).
>
> Oops, sorry, Trudi!!! And my apologies to Brian too!!!
They're accepted. ;-)
> (me again)
> > > > The exchange between Nutcracker and Prince was handled better
> > > > (though it *was* an exchange, since in all cases in this series
> > > > the roles were filled by two different skaters) -- it's hard to
> > > > make that work on-ice, so one ducking off while the other ducked
> > > > on was "close enough".
> >
> > I would agree, because the whole business the previous season where
> > Brian Boitano and Victor Petrenko were essentially playing two equal
> > "starring" roles was kind of confusing. Having the Nutcracker Prince
> > appear only at the time he is rescued, and then be supplanted for the
> > whole rest of the show by Drosselmeier, just plain seemed strange. It
> > just smacked of "trying desperately to accommodate two stars at once,
> > while puzzling a lot of people."
>
> Oh, it was worse than that. BB was *not* signed for the entire run of
> the tour - just certain select performances - and the rest of the time
> the Prince role was filled by Viktor's kid brother Vladimir. In fact, if
> you buy the tape of this show, you don't get BB at all, you get Vlad.
> (Fortunately, Jacksonville *was* on BB's short list, so I actually got
> to see him skate live. :-)
Oh yeah, I remember that. My understanding is that BB didn't want his
performance on the tape and didn't contractually agree to it, so the video
was BB-free. Which seems kinda silly.
But if you want REAL weirdness, did you ever hear about the "Two Brians
for the Price of One" version that played only at (IIRC) the Fox Theater
in Atlanta? In this one, BOTH Brians appeared, and BOTH played the role of
the Nutcracker Prince at different points of the show! Talk about
kowtowing to star treatment...talk about incongruity...actually, there
were THREE Nutcrackers: 1) the guy wearing the Nutcracker head, who fought
with the Mouse King before the spell was broken (as I joked at the show I
saw, when seeing this skater do an outside spreadeagle, "That sure isn't
Brian O"); 2) Brian Orser; and 3) Brian Boitano!
> Scuttlebutt at the time had it that BB was originally supposed to play
> Drosselmeier and Viktor the Prince, but when BB discovered serious
> conflicts in his schedule, the roles were switched so that BB could drop
> in and out as required.
Yeah, and what it essentially did was screw up the continuity of the show
to accommodate him like that. Just as it screwed up the continuity of the
Atlanta theater show to stick him in there...but they had to sell their
tickets, didn't they?
> > I, for one, was glad to see Todd Eldredge play the Prince and
> > do the prince things, while Brian Orser played Drosselmeier and did
> > the Drosselmeier things, and never the twain shall meet.
>
> Todd did the full run of the tour, too, unlike BB.
Yeah...Nicole too...who could ever forget? This was The Evil Tour they
weren't supposed to have agreed to, the one that cost Todd his national
title (although the consolation prize he got in March wasn't bad ;-)) and
b) cost Nicole her spot on the world team (nuff said about that).
> > I'd had the pleasure of seeing Brian as the Prince in the theater tour
> > the season before (and he did it wonderfully!).
>
> I'm sure he did. Sorry I missed him. :-(
Now *there's* one I wish I had on tape. Doing throws and death spirals
with Kim Seybold. And triple salchows on a tiny ice area.
> > > > The second act was noticeably weaker (than the previous year's
> > > > version), probably because Peggy Fleming was *not* up to an
> > > > extended role and much of the Sugarplum Fairy's music and
> > > > choreography had to be handed off to a written-in Snow Queen
> > > > (snow has very little to do with candies).
> >
> > True, but at least it gave us a chance to see the talents of Kristen
> > Vanick.
>
> Aha, *that's* who that was! Looks as though she's in the same height
> class as Lisa-Marie Allen, or very near it. Wish these things came with
> cast lists!
>
> Maven
That was her. I remember at the time we said that if ever there was a
contest for "Skater Who Looks the Most Like Lisa-Marie Allen But Isn't
Lisa-Marie Allen," Kristen Vanick would win hands down. She landed her
double axel when I saw the show in Rochester and was *so* gleeful--you
could tell!
NotDeby
<trudiwantsnospam...@cci-209150250053.clarityconnect.net>,
trudiwan...@clarityconnect.com wrote:
>> (me again)
>> > > > The exchange between Nutcracker and Prince was handled better
>> > > > (though it *was* an exchange, since in all cases in this series
>> > > > the roles were filled by two different skaters) -- it's hard to
>> > > > make that work on-ice, so one ducking off while the other ducked
>> > > > on was "close enough".
>> >
>> > I would agree, because the whole business the previous season where
>> > Brian Boitano and Victor Petrenko were essentially playing two equal
>> > "starring" roles was kind of confusing. Having the Nutcracker Prince
>> > appear only at the time he is rescued, and then be supplanted for the
>> > whole rest of the show by Drosselmeier, just plain seemed strange.
>> >It just smacked of "trying desperately to accommodate two stars at
>> >once, while puzzling a lot of people."
>>
>> Oh, it was worse than that. BB was *not* signed for the entire run of
>> the tour - just certain select performances - and the rest of the time
>
>Oh yeah, I remember that. My understanding is that BB didn't want his
>performance on the tape and didn't contractually agree to it, so the video
>was BB-free. Which seems kinda silly.
>
>But if you want REAL weirdness, did you ever hear about the "Two
>Brians for the Price of One" version that played only at (IIRC) the
>Fox Theater in Atlanta? In this one, BOTH Brians appeared, and
>BOTH played the role of the Nutcracker Prince at different points
>wearing the Nutcracker head, who fought with the Mouse King before
>
>> Scuttlebutt at the time had it that BB was originally supposed to play
>> Drosselmeier and Viktor the Prince, but when BB discovered serious
>> conflicts in his schedule, the roles were switched so that BB could drop
>> in and out as required.
GOOD LORD!!! What a royal mess! I'm having a headache just 'thinking' of
what kind of sacrilege to the God of Theatre this was/is. Quick, someone, my
smelling salts!