Are most male figure skaters gay?
Wes4dedi
Michael Farris
> I have heard 60-70 % of single men---- not pairs skaters.
Only the ones you like, honey. Kick in the head, aint' it?
-michael farris
Wes4dedi
rasputin
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luc
Wes4dedi a écrit:
Rex!!
> Your source isn't good! That's all.
>
> Wes4dedi a écrit:
> > I have heard 60-70 % of single men---- not pairs skaters.
Luc, Wes4dedi really wants only ONE skater to be gay -- the beautiful
and talented Alexei Yagudin.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaccck!!
Wes4dedi
luc
Wes4dedi a écrit:
Rex!!
> I would put that at 99%!
>
> Wes4dedi a écrit:
> > Probably my source is wrong and 80% are gay-not 60%! Gayest sport on earth.
Not as gay as rythym gymnastics.
Terry Hall
Looks like the off-season is well and truly underway.
No doubt the Tonya-bashing will start next.
Terry Hall
Head of Special Duties Section
Portland Ice Skating Society - New Zealand's Tonya Harding fan club
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PosterBoy
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> "Wes4dedi" <wes4...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > I have heard 60-70 % of single men---- not pairs skaters.
> Looks like the off-season is well and truly underway.
> No doubt the Tonya-bashing will start next.
> Terry Hall
Now that you have raised the issue, perhaps so.
Whasamadda? Slow news day?
Cheers.
Trudi Marrapodi
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> "Wes4dedi" <wes4...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > I have heard 60-70 % of single men---- not pairs skaters.
>
>
> Looks like the off-season is well and truly underway.
>
> No doubt the Tonya-bashing will start next.
Nah. We don't have to wait until the off-season for that. Tonya is so good
at bashing herself all year 'round.
--
Trudi
"There must be *somebody* I can complain to about you."
Terry Hall
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Can't say I've ever heard of a skater called Tony Harding, so I wouldn't know
if he is or is not.
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Rex!!
> Nah. We don't have to wait until the off-season for that. Tonya is so good
> at bashing herself all year 'round.
Especially those horrid man-legs she has....ugh! I HATE looking at her legs.
DonaldC476
Gee, I dunno, but let's see if we can figure this out...
As a male figure skater, you get to share the ice with a high preponderance of
women, virtually all of whom sport perfect bodies and the majority of which are
drop-dead gorgeous... Since there's a common focus (and male skaters are
something of a rarity), pickup lines are COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY! If you're a
pairs skater, you get to partner with and touch them in ways that would get you
ARRESTED and JAILED if you did it anywhere else! I dunno about "gay", but for
a straight male skater, interested in making a connection with women, it's an
absolute MECCA!
OTOH, If I WERE gay, I'd play football! You get to mix it up with a bunch of
beefy guys on every play, and when one of them scores, you get to pat him on
the rump!
What never ceases to amaze me is the number of guys who can't seem to figure
this out...
Don
Oakland, NJ
Marizel
And agree that it's is amazing that more quys *don't* seem to get it.
Mary
Tina Kramer
time of the 1992 Winter Olympics.
Also, I read this in an old Scott Hamilton biography. The author theorized
that one reason that so many people assume that male figure skaters are all
gay is because they aren't as "jocky" as we expect male athletes to be. He
contended that it's because there are so many young people in figure
skating who travel with their mothers and that many young men tend to be
more polite and soft-spoken when they're around their moms or other people's
mothers. But, he said, when you get a group of male skaters together they
can be as crude, rude, and socially unacceptable as the biggest brawniest
football team.
Tina
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Morgan Dhu
>As a male figure skater, you get to share the ice with a high preponderance of
>women, virtually all of whom sport perfect bodies and the majority of which are
>drop-dead gorgeous... Since there's a common focus (and male skaters are
>something of a rarity), pickup lines are COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY! If you're a
>pairs skater, you get to partner with and touch them in ways that would get you
>ARRESTED and JAILED if you did it anywhere else! I dunno about "gay", but for
>a straight male skater, interested in making a connection with women, it's an
>absolute MECCA!
And IIRC, this is pretty much what Kurt Browning used to say when he
was younger and people tried to hassle him about choosing figure
skating over hockey.
--Morgan Dhu
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IPonder
The same could be said of male ballet dancers. I dated a ballerina briefly,
and once asked her about the stereotype of the gay male ballet dancer. She
said, "It's not a stereotype; it's true, they're all gay."
All the faux logic of football attracting gays aside, "manly" sports attract
"manly" men.
Penpoint
>>Are most male figure skaters gay?
>
[snip]
>
>OTOH, If I WERE gay, I'd play football! You get to mix it up with a bunch of
>beefy guys on every play, and when one of them scores, you get to pat him on
>the rump!
>
The skating/football explanation is amusing and gets some skaters off
the hook, but I have to wonder if anyone participates in a particular
sport because of the possible sex partners they will come in contact
with. I think people choose a sport because of a fascination with the
elements of that sport, the circumstances of their environment (all
one's friends play soccer or the lack of ice rinks in Hawaii, as
examples), and eventually how their body type and abilities mesh with
the requirements of the sport (how many skaters or gymnasts are
6'2"?).
--Penpoint
DonaldC476
>6'2"?
It took a while, but I've figured out the WHOLE SECRET of our sport! It's to
be 5' tall and weigh 80 Lb! For the record, I'm 6'1" and weigh 200! Spin
speed has always been (and remains) something of a challenge!
Don
Oakland, NJ
Don
Oakland, NJ
DonaldC476
Probably MORE true of dancers! Dancers tend to be somewhat more passionate in
the craft, VERY LITTLE is worn in the studio, and the routines are probably
more "intimate" than those found on the ice.
>It's not a stereotype; it's true, they're all gay.
How did she know? "Gay-dar"???
Actually, the dance world probably has been very gay-friendly, and for this
reason, has attracted a disproportionate number of gays. But many companies
now regard themselves as "gay friendly", and if advertising themes are to be
believed, at least 1 major US city - Philadelphia - now is!
>All the faux logic of football attracting gays aside, "manly" sports attract
>"manly" men.
I was actually being facetious here. But I'm a little confused as to what
"manly" actually means. If it means "Machismo", quite frankly, I'm a little
sick and tired of it!
But then, that's one of the great beauties of being middle aged! I have
nothing to prove, care not a whit about appearences, and am free to pick my
sport with WILD ABANDON! AND I'm free to dress as I please on the ice!
Don
Oakland, NJ
janet swan hill
>the hook, but I have to wonder if anyone participates in a particular
>sport because of the possible sex partners they will come in contact
>with.
I know of one. A guy of my acquaintance took ballet in college just to meet
girls, and some years afterward, after a divorce, took up figure skating for
the same reason. It worked.
janet
Sandra Loosemore
> The skating/football explanation is amusing and gets some skaters off
> the hook, but I have to wonder if anyone participates in a particular
> sport because of the possible sex partners they will come in contact
> with.
I'm sure there are some. When I was in engineering school more years
ago than I care to admit any more, when women on campus were
outnumbered by men 3 to 1, there were definitely a minority of women
who made no secret of the fact that they were there to find a husband
rather than an education or career. And you'd think people would be
even more hesitant to put themselves through the rigors of engineering
school than just taking up a sport or hobby for the same reason.....
-Sandra the cynic
Juan Antonio Moreno
> Can't say I've ever heard of a skater called Tony Harding, so I wouldn't know
> if he is or is not.
Well, I'm sure there's a drag queen who portrays the role of Tonya
Harding singing, acting, boxing or whatever...you never know! mm! I
feel bad about being harsh on Harding, what a great jumper she was...
Juan.
GonnaSkate
>I know of one. A guy of my acquaintance took ballet in college just to meet
>girls, and some years afterward, after a divorce, took up figure skating for
>the same reason. It worked.
I met my future husband ice skating. He was actually there checking out the
rink for another woman he was interested in, but he spotted me and that was
that.
Gonna Skate
Tim Show
Regarding "are the singles men mainly gay" subject, it seems the
majority of the Olympic calibur athletes that are frequently "called
out" were put in the sport by adults-- parents, who themselves like
the sport; parents, on a doctor's advice due to poor health; or, by
one's government who decided the child had an aptitude for it. Some
began their training as young as 4-5 years old. I doubt boys that
young "got into the sport with the idea to pursue sex partners". And
after years of exorbitantly expensive training, who can blame them for
staying in the sport that they already are skilled at, in order to
earn a living? I don't see sexual preference as the predominate factor
at work here.
CurtAdams
>I think people choose a sport because of a fascination with the
>elements of that sport, the circumstances of their environment (all
>one's friends play soccer or the lack of ice rinks in Hawaii, as
>examples), and eventually how their body type and abilities mesh with
>the requirements of the sport (how many skaters or gymnasts are
6'2"?).
Oh, certainly. But it's odd that most guys seem more concerned
with whether other guys will stereotype them as gay rather
than whether they're doing something that helps them achieve
what most straight guys are looking for (namely, available,
attractive, often well-off women). Maybe it's being
eccentric or maybe it's getting older, but I care far more about
getting things I want than what other people think. I know
I'm quite in the minority there, though.
Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com)
"It is better to be wrong than to be vague" - Freeman Dyson
DonaldC476
>eccentric or maybe it's getting older, but I care far more about
>getting things I want than what other people think.
Actually, it's one of the great beauties of being "middle aged"...
> I know
>I'm quite in the minority there, though.
nNdeed you are, but there are at least two of us!!!
Don
Oakland, NJ
Rex!!
With those thick and ugly man-legs, Tonya Harding IS a drag queen.
Hattie54
>With those thick and ugly man-legs, Tonya Harding IS a drag queen.
>
How rude of you . I suppose your legs are any better ? ( snickers ) She may be
the only U S woman to land a triple axel in competition.
Bbarlou
Rex, I am surprised that you would make fun of something which Tonya cannot
help--that seems to me to be similar to making fun of somebody because of
racial characteristics or handicaps.
Terry Hall
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"Thick and ugly" sounds like a better description of you than of Tonya's
legs.
Rex!!
> >
> >With those thick and ugly man-legs, Tonya Harding IS a drag queen.
> >
>
> How rude of you . I suppose your legs are any better ? ( snickers ) She may be
> the only U S woman to land a triple axel in competition.
And I have read posts here about other skaters that were far worse.
And yeah, I do have better legs.
Rex!!
People w/ugly legs come in all colors. I would never make fun of
people b/c of their race or handicaps. And like I told Hattie, people
here have said worse things than that. Some of my fave skaters have
been trashed here for their physical appearance as well. It never
bothers me because *I* like them and people are entitled to their
opinions.
Rex!!
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> > > >
> > > > Can't say I've ever heard of a skater called Tony Harding, so I
> wouldn't know
> > > > if he is or is not.
> > >
> > > Well, I'm sure there's a drag queen who portrays the role of Tonya
> > > Harding singing, acting, boxing or whatever...you never know! mm! I
> > > feel bad about being harsh on Harding, what a great jumper she was...
> > >
> > > Juan.
> >
> > With those thick and ugly man-legs, Tonya Harding IS a drag queen.
>
>
> "Thick and ugly" sounds like a better description of you than of Tonya's
> legs.
Ouch, my feelings are SO hurt.
Terry Hall
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> > >"With those thick and ugly man-legs, Tonya Harding IS a drag queen."
> >
> > Rex, I am surprised that you would make fun of something which Tonya
> > cannot help--that seems to me to be similar to making fun of somebody
> > because of racial characteristics or handicaps.
>
> People w/ugly legs come in all colors. I would never make fun of
> people b/c of their race or handicaps.
Then why make a crack about Tonya looking like a "drag queen"? Are you trying
to make fun of what you perceive as Tonya's lack of femininity, or are you
making fun of trans-gender individuals? If it's not okay to make fun of
people because of their race or physical handicaps, then why is it okay to
make fun of their sexual orientation?
Skating is a sport - it's not supposed to be a beauty contest. People who
participate in sports are athletes and have well-developed bodies. Tonya's
"ugly" legs are the reason why she was capable of being such a great jumper.
Take the jumps out of skating and all you've got left is ice dancing. And we
all know what a corrupt joke of a sport that is.
People like you are the reason it's so hard to get skating taken seriously by
the public. You want all female skaters to be frilly ice-princesses just to
fit your stereotype of what female athletes should look like. It's this kind
of sexist twaddle that is holding women's sport back.
I can only conclude from your comments that you're either sexist, or a
homophobe, or both. Either way, skating would be better off without you as a
fan.
Rex
Okay, you win. My comments about Tonya were unwarranted.....NOT!
We will agree to disagree. As to your comments pertaining to my perceived
homophobia and sexism.....whatever. Do you feel better now, or do you
want a bigger soapbox to stand on? My opinion about Tonya stands.
IPonder
>"manly" actually means.
I'll bet you are...