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MRW

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc... Truth
is, we may never know...but it's easy to assume she is. First of all, she
thinks she is beautiful, when in fact she is not. This is classic for a
slut. They can still get laid all the time by wearing the right clothes.
Miniskirts and high heels make *any* woman look available and half decent,
and many wear them just to tease - and they love it (now don't get excited
people-such clothing is certainly not worn for comfort...).

Ever see Kristi's face from a side shot? It's so flat, even more than the
average Asian, that it looks absolutely hideous. About as attractive as
Nancy Kerrigan's large nostrils, which make her look like a pig (really)
when she extends her neck even slightly. Visualize it.

deb owen

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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Who asked you?


Rosemary C. Lentz

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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In <MRW2922-2712...@tip-mp7-ncs-7.stanford.edu>

This post is disgusting and has no place in this news group.

olivia_olivares

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On MRW...@nwu.edu (MRU) wrote:

> ... thinks she is beautiful, when in fact she is not. This is classic

>for a slut. They can still get laid all the time by wearing the right
>clothes.

I can't decide if the above means you can't get laid, or you
couldn't dress yourself "right" to save your life. Hint: gold chains
and polyester leisure suits by Qiana are out.

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David B. Feland

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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In article <MRW2922-2712...@tip-mp7-ncs-7.stanford.edu>,

MRW...@nwu.edu (MRW) wrote:
>I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc... Truth
>is, we may never know...but it's easy to assume she is. First of all, she
>thinks she is beautiful, when in fact she is not. This is classic for a
>slut. They can still get laid all the time by wearing the right clothes.
>Miniskirts and high heels make *any* woman look available and half decent,
>and many wear them just to tease - and they love it (now don't get excited
>people-such clothing is certainly not worn for comfort...).
>
>Ever see Kristi's face from a side shot? It's so flat, even more than the
>average Asian, that it looks absolutely hideous. About as attractive as
>Nancy Kerrigan's large nostrils, which make her look like a pig (really)
>when she extends her neck even slightly. Visualize it.

I don't know where to start, this post is so insulting. Both to our
intelligence and our sense of taste.

The only definition of 'slut' I've seen has to do with promiscuity. If
you've got any evidence on this, please, keep it to yourself. If not,
keep that to yourself as well. And do you *really* think anyone here
cares how ugly (in your opinion) Kristi is? If you want a list of
unattractive skaters, I can give you plenty.

The point is - we're here to talk about *skating*. That has nothing to
do with whether or not someone is a slut, or ugly, or even a
narrow-minded idiot.

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Louis Epstein

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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MRW (MRW...@nwu.edu) wrote:
: I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc... Truth
: is, we may never know...but it's easy to assume she is. First of all, she
: thinks she is beautiful, when in fact she is not.

Bzzzt!!!

Incorrect.

: Miniskirts and high heels make *any* woman look available and half decent,


: and many wear them just to tease - and they love it (now don't get excited
: people-such clothing is certainly not worn for comfort...).

For a skater,it's essential.Try performing in a hobble-skirt some time!!


Sk8mayven

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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**DON'T** start in on skaters' looks! Remember, the sainted Oksana Baiul
is not a classic beauty either, and anyone wanting to rip *her* looks and
behavior to pieces would have an all too easy job of it.

Grow up, you nasty little brats!
--Bettina (Sk8M...@aol.com)

Lyn Larsen

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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On Dec 27, 1995 00:42:05 in article <Kristi Yamaguchi is a slut>,

'MRW...@nwu.edu (MRW)' wrote:


>I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc... Truth
>is, we may never know...but it's easy to assume she is. First of all, she

>thinks she is beautiful, when in fact she is not. This is classic for a

>slut. They can still get laid all the time by wearing the right clothes.

>Miniskirts and high heels make *any* woman look available and half decent,

>and many wear them just to tease - and they love it (now don't get excited

>people-such clothing is certainly not worn for comfort...).
>

>Ever see Kristi's face from a side shot? It's so flat, even more than the

>average Asian, that it looks absolutely hideous. About as attractive as
>Nancy Kerrigan's large nostrils, which make her look like a pig (really)
>when she extends her neck even slightly. Visualize it.


I was just wondering what anyone's looks or behavior had to do with their
skating? The last time I looked, this newsgroup was about skating, not
some's qualifications for either the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue or
membership in the Christian Coalition.

It seems that at least one member of the Stamford community has descended
to the level of the 75 or so fans at last Saturday's Giants-Chargers game.
We can only hope that this post was written by someone as inebriated as
those fans obviously were.

mike.and.joy.hardie

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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I have deleted the entire article originally posted. So many schools
these days are concentrating heavily on teaching how to solve all the ills
of the poor with donations & soup and scrambling to protect rodents around
the world (I am not suggesting they don't deserve attention) , but
obviously some parent or teacher somewhere has neglected to instruct this
person on the basic good behavior of "if you don't have anything nice to
say.....then don't say anything."

I used to remember our family watching olympic ice skating when I was
a little girl. My Father would make horrendous comments on "this one is
too heavy, or that one needs a nicer costume or that is awful music." When
all was said and done....you would think that the whole skating show had
been so bad and filled with ugly skater that you would never want to watch
again. But he always did. And it was never any fun watching with him!
Sure, I could make a mental critique of my opinions also.....but that is
where they were filed.

When I critique a person my rules are......#1 It should always be
something that they can change, ie. skill etc.
Never something like their face. That is how a person was intended to be.
Is the poster suggesting cosmetic surgery?

I really think the poster must be jealous and void of basic
citizenship etiquette. JH

Mark Overton

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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MRW...@nwu.edu (MRW) wrote:
>Ever see Kristi's face from a side shot? It's so flat, even more than the
>average Asian, that it looks absolutely hideous.

As a guy with typical taste in women, I think Kristi looks fine.
Shapely figure and an attractive face. I'm sure many women envy her.

- Mark

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Lynn J. Fancher

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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>I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc...
Truth
>is, we may never know...but it's easy to assume she is. First of all,

<<snip of a lot of brainless garbage>>

I was going to ignore this post, since it's really below contempt, but
I am just so irritated that I have to add my 2 cents to what is bound
to be a significant response.

This is disgusting on at least two different levels:

1) Applying such a pejorative label to ANYONE on the basis of your
opinions re. the clothes they wear is amazingly shallow and immature.
Many young women who are blessed with the slender body required for
such clothing elect to wear miniskirts, etc., because it is fashionable
and they like to look good. Those who can't carry off such clothing
have no business criticising those who can. Your screen name doesn't
make your gender obvious, so it is a relatively safe bet that there's a
significant germ of envy behind this attack. [On the other hand, maybe
it's frustrated lust.]

2) There has never, to my knowledge, been any suggestion that Kristi
Yamaguchi has been witnessed _behaving_ like a slut, and this kind of
evidence would be the _only_ acceptible reason to call anyone such a
nasty name. All reports I've heard from those who frequent figure
skating competitions and events support the supposition that she is a
charming and well balanced young _lady_, who has done nothing to earn
your spite.

Incidentally, while you obviously feel very strongly re. your opinion
of Kristi's looks, such things are always subjective, and there are
certainly many who strongly disagree with you. I may not think Kristi
is the most beautiful of women, but I do think she is very nice
looking. You also have no business criticizing her for trying to make
the best of her looks. Jealousy again? Please go back into your cave
and mature for about 20 more years before you try again to converse
with civilized human beings. I'm sure Stanford would be _glad_ to give
you a leave of absense.

Lynn

Luree Dell-Bryan

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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>MRW...@nwu.edu (MRW) wrote:
>>Ever see Kristi's face from a side shot? It's so flat, even more than the
>>average Asian, that it looks absolutely hideous.

I'm sure that Mr. MRW2922 made this post as a sick joke to see how
many people would jump to his bait. Looks like he got the attention
he wanted. (I read somewhere that serial killers commit their acts to
get attention too!)
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kho...@imap2.asu.edu

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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I tried mailing to your listed address. Not surprisingly, it bounced. I
hardly expected anyone who posted this bit of garbage to have the courage
to admit it.
Please send future trolls to alt.sexually.repressed.losers and leave the
skating newsgroups alone.

Leslie Arai creepygirl@.asu.edu
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--Frank Pembleton, HOMICIDE


Louis Epstein

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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Lynn J. Fancher (brio...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: In <MRW2922-2712...@tip-mp7-ncs-7.stanford.edu>

: MRW...@nwu.edu (MRW) writes:
: >
: >I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc...Truth
: >is, we may never know...but it's easy to assume she is. First of all,

: <<snip of a lot of brainless garbage>>

: Please go back into your cave and mature for about 20 more years before


: you try again to converse with civilized human beings. I'm sure Stanford
: would be _glad_ to give you a leave of absense.

The poster,you will note,is from the "nwu.edu" domain...Northwestern
University in Illinois.While he[?] monkeyed with the "Organization:" line
of the header to shift blame to Stanford,he did not mask the Sender address.

Northwestern's domain Administrative Contact is Libby Flanagan,(708)
467-3150,if you want to report misuse of this account.


Charles E Newman

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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Lyn Larsen (lla...@nyc.pipeline.com) wrote:
: On Dec 27, 1995 00:42:05 in article <Kristi Yamaguchi is a slut>,
: 'MRW...@nwu.edu (MRW)' wrote:
:
:
:
: It seems that at least one member of the Stamford community has descended

: to the level of the 75 or so fans at last Saturday's Giants-Chargers game.
: We can only hope that this post was written by someone as inebriated as
: those fans obviously were.
:
:

That is from nwu.edu, which is Northwestern University in Illionois. Quite
clever if I may say so because so many people will be fooled into sending
complaints to Stanford when they should be going to Northwestern University.
Whoever posted this obviously knows what he is doing.

Louis Epstein

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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Louis Epstein (lep...@j51.com) wrote:

: Lynn J. Fancher (brio...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: : In <MRW2922-2712...@tip-mp7-ncs-7.stanford.edu>
: : MRW...@nwu.edu (MRW) writes:
: : >
: : >I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc...Truth
: : >is, we may never know...but it's easy to assume she is. First of all,

: : <<snip of a lot of brainless garbage>>

: : Please go back into your cave and mature for about 20 more years before
: : you try again to converse with civilized human beings. I'm sure Stanford
: : would be _glad_ to give you a leave of absense.

: The poster,you will note,is from the "nwu.edu" domain...Northwestern
: University in Illinois.While he[?] monkeyed with the "Organization:" line

(I demonstrated this in the previous msg)

: of the header to shift blame to Stanford,he did not mask the Sender address.

Although I note that the message DID have a stanford ID,and I am not sure
if that means what was masked was in fact the Sender address while he forgot
to change the Organization: line!

: Northwestern's domain Administrative Contact is Libby Flanagan,(708)


: 467-3150,if you want to report misuse of this account.

(Or inquire further as to the perp's genuineness).Find the Stanford
counterpart via the WHOIS database.


Inspecktor Gadget

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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>I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc... Truth
>is, we may never know...but it's easy to assume she is. First of all, she
>thinks she is beautiful, when in fact she is not. This is classic for a
>slut. They can still get laid all the time by wearing the right clothes.
>Miniskirts and high heels make *any* woman look available and half decent,
>and many wear them just to tease - and they love it (now don't get excited
>people-such clothing is certainly not worn for comfort...).
>
>Ever see Kristi's face from a side shot? It's so flat, even more than the
>average Asian, that it looks absolutely hideous. About as attractive as
>Nancy Kerrigan's large nostrils, which make her look like a pig (really)
>when she extends her neck even slightly. Visualize it.

Hey you DUMB FUCK!!! Firstly, you spelt her name WRONG!! Is is spelt
C-R-I-S-T-I, it is not spelt with a FUCKING K!!! I suggest you start
using the anon server before some Mexican there at Northwestern discovers
who you are and decks you. We Mexicans are proud of out heritage and do
not appreciate having anyone in our race called sluts. Cristi is a very
beautiful Mexican from Acapulco, Mexico. She is 1/2 japanese, 1/2 Mexican.
I consider your post an insult to the Mexican people!!! Your admins have
been notified.
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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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What ever happened to politeness and civility in public discussions? Or maybe
just adult behaviour?

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Louis Epstein

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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Charles "Chuckie" Newman,revelling in the success of a fellow
troll,applied the alias "Inspecktor Gadget" to one of his accounts
(an41...@anon.penet.fi) and wrote:

: >I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc...

[rest of stupid slam snipped]


: Hey you DUMB FUCK!!! Firstly, you spelt her name WRONG!! Is is spelt


: C-R-I-S-T-I, it is not spelt with a FUCKING K!!! I suggest you start
: using the anon server before some Mexican there at Northwestern discovers
: who you are and decks you. We Mexicans are proud of out heritage and do
: not appreciate having anyone in our race called sluts. Cristi is a very
: beautiful Mexican from Acapulco, Mexico. She is 1/2 japanese, 1/2 Mexican.
: I consider your post an insult to the Mexican people!!! Your admins have
: been notified.

Of course,spelling Yamaguchi's first name right and omitting any reference
to the stupid lie ONLY Chuckie believes that she has ANYTHING to do with
Mexico is about the only thing right in the seeder...


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David Reytblat

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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>I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc...
Truth
>is, we may never know...but it's easy to assume she is. First of all,
she
>thinks she is beautiful, when in fact she is not. This is classic for
a
>slut. They can still get laid all the time by wearing the right
clothes.
>Miniskirts and high heels make *any* woman look available and half
decent,
>and many wear them just to tease - and they love it (now don't get
excited
>people-such clothing is certainly not worn for comfort...).
>
>Ever see Kristi's face from a side shot? It's so flat, even more than
the
>average Asian, that it looks absolutely hideous. About as attractive
as
>Nancy Kerrigan's large nostrils, which make her look like a pig
(really)
>when she extends her neck even slightly. Visualize it.
This is probably the most obscene post I have ever had the misfortune
to read on this newsgroup. The author of this "verbal diarrhia" has no
respect for skaters, the fans, or for women. It's a sad day that a
newsgroup dedicated to a beautiful sport has become a forum for such
trash. Please, I ask of those who read this, don't dignify the
aforementioned "diarrhea" with a continuous thread on its merits.
There are better things left to be discussed in figure skating.
Thank You. J.R.

Charles E Newman

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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Lynn J. Fancher (brio...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:

: 2) There has never, to my knowledge, been any suggestion that Kristi


: Yamaguchi has been witnessed _behaving_ like a slut, and this kind of
: evidence would be the _only_ acceptible reason to call anyone such a
: nasty name. All reports I've heard from those who frequent figure
: skating competitions and events support the supposition that she is a
: charming and well balanced young _lady_, who has done nothing to earn
: your spite.


Agreed. I have been in touch with the "anonymous commentators", and you
will be seeing a comment about this from them in a few days. Some of THEM
are pretty disgusted by the original posts as well. We may be twits, but we
would never stoop that low. At least the original poster did not use the
anon service this time. The anti-Yamaguchi message that was posted through
anon.penet.fi in September 1994 is what caused me to eventually create
alt.skate.figure. It caused such a backlash against anon postings that I
had to create alt.skate.figure so we would have a place to go. Unless
Northwestern wants to have postings from their site no longer be welcome here,
they should do somethings about this idiot at nwu.edu, either that or
start carrying alt.skate.figure. If it can happen to Penet, it can happen
to Northwestern U as well. Unless Northwestern does something about this
idiot, postings from there will become unwelcome as well.
To me a slut is a basically naughty girl, which Ms. Yamaguchi is
certainly NOT. She has never done anything naughty to my knowledge and
therefore does not deserve to be called a slut. C'mon, think!! If she
were, every tabloid in the world would have it in their papers, and I might
say that Hatchet Job (available on alt.skate.figure) might carry the story
as well. I have seen nothing in Hatchet Job, and I have seen nothing in the
tabloids. I briefly scan the tabloids for Interesting stories every time
I go to the store and buy one if there is a story of interest to me.

Charles E Newman

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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MRW (MRW...@nwu.edu) wrote:
: I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc... Truth
: is, we may never know...but it's easy to assume she is. First of all, she
: thinks she is beautiful, when in fact she is not. This is classic for a


Go get your eyes checked asshole!!! She just happens to be one of the
most beautiful women in skating today, if not the most beautiful. She
is tall, lean, and beautiful.


Lee Varty

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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How absolutely, totally, completely, rude and disgusting!!! The mind of
an 8-year-old boy (know to be rude at times) could not come up with
anything this cutting. If this person (who, I noticed, only uses initials)
has nothing more constructive to say about a young "lady" known (in Edmonton,
especially) to be kind, considerate and sweet, then maybe he/she she should
keep his/her mouth shut and GET A LIFE!!!

Lee
gva...@ccinet.ab.ca

Margaret Burwell

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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MRW (MRW...@nwu.edu) writes:
> I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc... Truth
(etc.)

I don't like getting involved in flame wars or name calling, but I have to
speak up on this one. To stay silent is to condone and I will not condone
this kind of post. I find it racist and all around unacceptable. I can't
stop people from saying and writing these things, but I can say very
loudly that I find them offensive and please keep such comments to
yourself.

Marg

Louis Epstein

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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Charles E Newman (new...@netcom.com) wrote:

: Lynn J. Fancher (brio...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:

: : 2) There has never, to my knowledge, been any suggestion that Kristi
: : Yamaguchi has been witnessed _behaving_ like a slut, and this kind of
: : evidence would be the _only_ acceptible reason to call anyone such a
: : nasty name. All reports I've heard from those who frequent figure
: : skating competitions and events support the supposition that she is a
: : charming and well balanced young _lady_, who has done nothing to earn
: : your spite.

: Agreed. I have been in touch with the "anonymous commentators",

Talking to yourself again?You really have to find a better class of
interlocutor,Chuckie,if any will talk to you...

: and you


: will be seeing a comment about this from them in a few days. Some of THEM
: are pretty disgusted by the original posts as well. We may be twits, but we
: would never stoop that low.

...uh...you're all ONE twit pretending to be DIFFERENT twits,Chuckie!


Louis Epstein

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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Charles E Newman (new...@netcom.com) wrote:
: MRW (MRW...@nwu.edu) wrote:
: : I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc... Truth
: : is, we may never know...but it's easy to assume she is. First of all, she

: : thinks she is beautiful, when in fact she is not. This is classic for a

: Go get your eyes checked asshole!!! She just happens to be one of the
: most beautiful women in skating today, if not the most beautiful. She
: is tall, lean, and beautiful.

^^^^

Just can't help adding to the pack of lies,eh?
She is 5'1".


Marc Pepe

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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kristi is in no way the most beautiful woman in figure skating today.
1.Witt (she still has it)
2.Gordeeyeva
3.Bobek
honorable mention: Swejchenko(Tonjia),

Vortex

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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rcl...@ix.netcom.com(Rosemary C. Lentz ) wrote:

>>I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc...
>Truth
>>is, we may never know...but it's easy to assume she is. First of all,
>she
>>thinks she is beautiful, when in fact she is not. This is classic for
>a

>>slut. They can still get laid all the time by wearing the right
>clothes.
>>Miniskirts and high heels make *any* woman look available and half
>decent,
>>and many wear them just to tease - and they love it (now don't get
>excited
>>people-such clothing is certainly not worn for comfort...).
>>
>>Ever see Kristi's face from a side shot? It's so flat, even more than
>the
>>average Asian, that it looks absolutely hideous. About as attractive
>as
>>Nancy Kerrigan's large nostrils, which make her look like a pig
>(really)
>>when she extends her neck even slightly. Visualize it.

>This post is disgusting and has no place in this news group.

Thank you and amen....

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kandee...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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from: kandee...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca

About the Kristi thing, the person who did do that must really be crying
out for attention! About the other guy saying the way you spell Kristi
is "Cristi"....and the Mexican background, I have no idea what that
person is talking about, was he fried? Anyways, I am so disappointed
that the person wrote such cruel things about her. I think that if you
yourself are not perfect, then there isn't much use correcting anyone
else! I want this person caught! Who do we write to?
Happy Holidays, Kandee

Louis Epstein

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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Marc Pepe (moo...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: kristi is in no way the most beautiful woman in figure skating today.

Kristi IS BEAUTIFUL,despite the trolling slam...the question is not whether
she is the MOST beautiful.Can't say I agree with your choices for most,
but that would be another thread.


Elizabeth R. Dickson

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Elizabeth R. Dickson
I wonder..has this ahh..person? been in Kristi's life and/or bed? Nopenope, not
possible. I doubt she'd be that silly.
enouugh of that.
To sum up the more evil thoughts running through my head...Please can the
statements about her being a slut. You don't know that. Neither do I or anyone
else(barring those who mught know her here). If she wears a mini skirt and high
heels, so WHAT? So do about a million other women in america. Quite possibly
the world, too. This does not make her a slut. And sooree if she doesn't fit
the eurocentric vision of bauty. She's Asian/american and is very pretty as she
is.
If you don't like her face, I'm sure she won't mind if you stop looking at it.
Now, let's pulease return to the figure skating world?


NyokaK

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> Hey you DUMB ****!!! Firstly, you spelt her name WRONG!! Is is spelt
>C-R-I-S-T-I, it is not spelt with a ****ING K!!! I suggest you start

>using the anon server before some Mexican there at Northwestern discovers
>who you are and decks you. We Mexicans are proud of out heritage and do
>not appreciate having anyone in our race called sluts. Cristi is a very
>beautiful Mexican from Acapulco, Mexico. She is 1/2 japanese, 1/2
Mexican.
>I consider your post an insult to the Mexican people!!! Your admins have
>been notified.

We REALLY don't need this kind of language here. And I'm not being
self-righteous because I have been known to use the word myself.
Nyoka

Charles E Newman

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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Louis Epstein (lep...@j51.com) wrote:


: ...uh...you're all ONE twit pretending to be DIFFERENT twits,Chuckie!

Well on behalf of myself, Elmer Fudd, Fish Face, Krime Klown, Australian
Bushman, and the others, I would like to say that we ARE pretty disgusted
with the post that started this thread. We have sent a complaint to nwu.edu
and urge others to do the same. You should be seeing an anon message about
this in a few days.


Karl Steinhoff

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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lep...@j51.com (Louis Epstein) wrote:

~ Kristi IS BEAUTIFUL,despite the trolling slam...the question is not whether
~ she is the MOST beautiful.Can't say I agree with your choices for most,
~ but that would be another thread.

Indeed, one of those "twice-a-year-or-so" threads, and it's about time for
one this year.

Prediction - right now, the thread would include mostly the ineligibles.
If we do it again in late March or early April, we'd see mostly names from
the ISU-eligible ranks.

--
ka...@deltanet.com

Louis Epstein

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Dec 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/29/95
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Charles E Newman (new...@netcom.com) wrote:

Chuckie set followups to "alt.skate.fiigure".I am not corresting his
typo,just putting r.s.s.i.f back on the list.

: Louis Epstein (lep...@j51.com) wrote:

: : Just can't help adding to the pack of lies,eh?


: : She is 5'1".


: Cristi is 6'1". These are the tallest skaters at present


: 1. Katarina Witt 6'4" 165lbs.
: 2. Cristi Yamaguchi 6'1" 153lbs
: 3. Nancy Kerrigan 5'9" 145lbs.
: 4. Ekaterina Gordeyva 5'8" 150lbs.
: 5. Nicole Bobeck 5'7" 135lbs.

Like I said,just can't help adding to the pack of lies.Witt is 5'6" or 7",
Yamaguchi 5'1",Kerrigan 5'4",Gordeyeva about 5',Bobek 5'4".


: That is a far cry from the shortest in recent history. And this in Tonya Harding
: at 5'0" and 101lbs.

That's pretty close to ACCURATE,Chuckie,you're slipping!!


St. Nicky says Merry Xmas!

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Dec 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/29/95
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An oaf from a desolate hamlet called "Mesa Satan"
had some nerve to aver "Kristi Yamaguchi is a slut."
I have rarely posted any in this news group before
unless I had some quetion to knowledgeagle people and
since I am merely an admirer of this beautiful sport.
But this cretin has just invaded this news group which
has been such a peaceful and serene arena for
discussion about this artistic sport.
This dunce caused such a havoc to civilized news group,
upsetting all of us, a sport lover.
I didn't want to abase myself to the level of this
boa's dung, but
I have to purge a sense of irritation and disgust
running through my system.

As soon as I read his posting, it reminded me of
a horifying news where
two TEENAGERs broke into several houses and
started hammering and trashing every bit of houses,
bathroom mirrors, comodors, urinals, ceiling fans, ceiling,
windows, walls, tv, kitchens, badgering
a house dog, and even nuking alive fish.
To my dismay and disbelief, they video-taped a
whole belavoring of themselves.
I likened the posting to these immature behavior.
The poster maliciously trashed Kristi without any substantiation
nor apparent reasons like those teens destroyed strangers' homes
without any reasons nor civility.

This is the worst day of this news group.
We went thought the saddest day quite recently when
we experienced a loss of Mr. Grinkov.
His posting was a grave act of contempt and
degradation to figure skate, an art of combining drama, aethetics,
creativity and atheleticism which Mr. Grinkov and
all of us here dearly treasure.

Alas, I am still fumed. Cussing didn't help either.
I have to take a sleeping pill tonight.

Eben Ozen

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Dec 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/29/95
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kandee...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca wrote:
: that the person wrote such cruel things about her. I think that if you
: yourself are not perfect, then there isn't much use correcting anyone
: else! I want this person caught!

Nothing illegal was done, so writing to the postmaster of the
questionable nwu header is probably unproductive.
--
mis...@netcom.com

Louis Epstein

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Dec 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/29/95
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Karl Steinhoff (ka...@deltanet.com) wrote:
: lep...@j51.com (Louis Epstein) wrote:

Are you seeking to start the thread,or predicting someone else will?
(Either I praise Jennifer Blount,Annalise Swanson,etc. now or later).


Valerie Stark

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Dec 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/29/95
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In article <newmanDK...@netcom.com>,

Charles E Newman <new...@netcom.com> wrote:
>Lynn J. Fancher (brio...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
>: 2) There has never, to my knowledge, been any suggestion that Kristi
>: Yamaguchi has been witnessed _behaving_ like a slut, and this kind of
>: evidence would be the _only_ acceptible reason to call anyone such a
>: nasty name. All reports I've heard from those who frequent figure
>: skating competitions and events support the supposition that she is a
>: charming and well balanced young _lady_, who has done nothing to earn
>: your spite.
>
>
> Agreed. I have been in touch with the "anonymous commentators", and you

>will be seeing a comment about this from them in a few days. Some of THEM
>are pretty disgusted by the original posts as well. We may be twits, but we
>would never stoop that low. At least the original poster did not use the
>anon service this time. The anti-Yamaguchi message that was posted through
>anon.penet.fi in September 1994 is what caused me to eventually create
>alt.skate.figure. It caused such a backlash against anon postings that I
>had to create alt.skate.figure so we would have a place to go. Unless
>Northwestern wants to have postings from their site no longer be welcome here,
>they should do somethings about this idiot at nwu.edu, either that or
>start carrying alt.skate.figure. If it can happen to Penet, it can happen
>to Northwestern U as well. Unless Northwestern does something about this
>idiot, postings from there will become unwelcome as well.
> To me a slut is a basically naughty girl, which Ms. Yamaguchi is
>certainly NOT. She has never done anything naughty to my knowledge and
>therefore does not deserve to be called a slut. C'mon, think!! If she
>were, every tabloid in the world would have it in their papers, and I might
>say that Hatchet Job (available on alt.skate.figure) might carry the story
>as well. I have seen nothing in Hatchet Job, and I have seen nothing in the
>tabloids. I briefly scan the tabloids for Interesting stories every time
>I go to the store and buy one if there is a story of interest to me.


A naughty girl?!?!?!?!? Gads, Chuck, you amaze me. And a "boy" who does
the same thing? How come he's a "stud"? If sex is ok for males, it must
be ok for females, unless you're only endorsing male homosexual
relations. Anyway, in the 90's, the age of AIDS, slut and stud may both
come to mean dead.


Val, off on a tangent again...

Valerie Stark

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Dec 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/29/95
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In article <newmanDK...@netcom.com>,
Charles E Newman <new...@netcom.com> wrote:
>MRW (MRW...@nwu.edu) wrote:
>: I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc... Truth
>: is, we may never know...but it's easy to assume she is. First of all, she
>: thinks she is beautiful, when in fact she is not. This is classic for a
>
>
> Go get your eyes checked asshole!!! She just happens to be one of the
>most beautiful women in skating today, if not the most beautiful. She
>is tall, lean, and beautiful.
>

Tall? Yipee, that means I'm tall, too!!! Thanks, Chuck!

Val

C.J. Poux

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Dec 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/29/95
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Marc Pepe <moo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>kristi is in no way the most beautiful woman in figure skating today.
>1.Witt (she still has it)
>2.Gordeeyeva
>3.Bobek
>honorable mention: Swejchenko(Tonjia),

my friend, ms. rory flack outflanks all of the above by a longshot. of
the amateurs, ms. chen lu is luminously beautiful.

poo

Valerie Stark

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Dec 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/29/95
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In article <4c1h61$1...@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,

There are lots of pretty ladies skating. There are some nice-looking
guys skating. There are a few of either sex who aren't terribly
attractive, but they still look good while on the ice.

My opinion, YMMV.

Val

Holonet

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Dec 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/30/95
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In <vstarkDK...@netcom.com> vst...@netcom.com (Valerie Stark)
writes:


Okay, let's not be sexist here . . . so who's the best-looking guy in
figure skating? My vote goes to Scott Hamilton (okay, so I'm weird--I
like short bald guys--I just think he's cute!).

BTW--for ladies, my vote goes to Katya.

Holonet

Brian

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Dec 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/30/95
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hol...@ix.netcom.com(Holonet ) wrote:

Katerina?? Too many wrinkles. My vote to Nicole, she was absolutley
stunning in that VOGUE issue. Caryn Kadevy is a beauty too.
"Everthing about life is funny"
-Monica Seles


Vortex

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Dec 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/30/95
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MRW...@nwu.edu (MRW) wrote:

>I've seen several posts about whether Yamaguchi is a slut, etc... Truth
>is, we may never know...but it's easy to assume she is. First of all, she
>thinks she is beautiful, when in fact she is not. This is classic for a

>slut. They can still get laid all the time by wearing the right clothes.

Blah blah blah

Excuse me but alt.supermodels is just down the hall.
Kristi is an AWESOME skater and a very beautiful young lady. I can
only see jealousy in your post. This post is degrading and disgusting
and is inappropriate to thinking people and to this newsgroup.

sco...@mainelink.net

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Dec 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/30/95
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I don't know who is the bigger fool: the person who originally posted
this trash or the person who responds to it. Why can't everybody just
shut up and let this dead dog lie?

Jeffrey Scoville
Biddeford, Maine

Sk8mayven

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Dec 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/30/95
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<<She just happens to be one of the most beautiful women in skating today,
if not the most beautiful. She is tall, lean, and beautiful. >>

Right on two out of three. Kristi isn't tall -- she's actually very short.
Most skaters are. But she makes the most of what she has, and seems to be
a sweet unspoiled person in spite of all the heady success.

--Bettina (Sk8M...@aol.com)

T. Buynak

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Dec 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/30/95
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I agree with you. Scott Hamilton is my favorite male skater-- So much so
the I named my cat (Hamilton Q. Kitty) after him. Anyway, there's
something attractive about him, even without a full head of hair. He also
happens to be, IMO, the best male figure skater ever.


PoetChild

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Dec 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/30/95
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I personally feel that the best looking male skater is Michael Weiss.
He's got such an air of masculinity around him...

As for the ladies, my vote is Chen Lu.

Tigger 645

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Dec 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/30/95
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My vote goes for Kurt Browning!!! :)

Ally
tigg...@aol.com

Luree Dell-Bryan

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Dec 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/30/95
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lep...@j51.com (Louis Epstein) wrote:

>You don't consider an earring a transvestite affectation?(I know,it wasn't
>for Mr. Clean...)

Hey, I think Michael Weiss is great and a little make-up on men makes
them much more interesting. What's the matter? Afraid that you might
get turned on more than me? I'll bet my fantasies are more fun than
yours!

--
http://www.islandnet.com/~luree/luree.html
"Surf On Down!"


Louis Epstein

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Dec 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/31/95
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PoetChild (poet...@aol.com) wrote:
: I personally feel that the best looking male skater is Michael Weiss.
: He's got such an air of masculinity around him...

You don't consider an earring a transvestite affectation?(I know,it wasn't
for Mr. Clean...)

: As for the ladies, my vote is Chen Lu.

Last year I sent someone of this opinion a list of about fifty female skaters
I had seen or seen pictures of that I considered better looking than Chen
Lu...can't recall them all right now...

Stephen Linhart

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Dec 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/31/95
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In article <DKFG2...@news2.new-york.net>, lep...@j51.com (Louis
Epstein) wrote:

> PoetChild (poet...@aol.com) wrote:
> : I personally feel that the best looking male skater is Michael Weiss.
> : He's got such an air of masculinity around him...
>
> You don't consider an earring a transvestite affectation?(I know,it wasn't
> for Mr. Clean...)

Um... huh.

Lynn J. Fancher

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Dec 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/31/95
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In <DKFG2...@news2.new-york.net> lep...@j51.com (Louis Epstein)
writes:
>
>PoetChild (poet...@aol.com) wrote:
>: I personally feel that the best looking male skater is Michael
Weiss.
>: He's got such an air of masculinity around him...
>
>You don't consider an earring a transvestite affectation?(I know,it
wasn't
>for Mr. Clean...)
>
_How_ many digits did you say there were in your age? Earrings for men
have become so commonplace as to be virtually unnoticed. Loosen up.


>: As for the ladies, my vote is Chen Lu.
>
>Last year I sent someone of this opinion a list of about fifty female
skaters
>I had seen or seen pictures of that I considered better looking than
Chen
>Lu...can't recall them all right now...
>

The key portion of this sentence is "I considered." So PoetChild
doesn't share your view.

Louis Epstein

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Dec 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/31/95
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Lynn J. Fancher (brio...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: In <DKFG2...@news2.new-york.net> lep...@j51.com (Louis Epstein)

: writes:
: >
: >PoetChild (poet...@aol.com) wrote:
: >: I personally feel that the best looking male skater is Michael Weiss.
: >: He's got such an air of masculinity around him...
: >
: >You don't consider an earring a transvestite affectation?(I know,it wasn't
: >for Mr. Clean...)
: >
: _How_ many digits did you say there were in your age? Earrings for men
: have become so commonplace as to be virtually unnoticed. Loosen up.

I'm 34,but of firm views on many matters.Curmudge curmudge.

: >: As for the ladies, my vote is Chen Lu.


: >
: >Last year I sent someone of this opinion a list of about fifty female skaters
: >I had seen or seen pictures of that I considered better looking than Chen
: >Lu...can't recall them all right now...
: >
: The key portion of this sentence is "I considered." So PoetChild
: doesn't share your view.

And this thread is clearly for the exchange of views.


Louis Epstein

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Dec 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/31/95
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Luree Dell-Bryan (lu...@IslandNet.com) wrote:
: lep...@j51.com (Louis Epstein) wrote:

: >You don't consider an earring a transvestite affectation?(I know,it wasn't
: >for Mr. Clean...)

: Hey, I think Michael Weiss is great and a little make-up on men makes


: them much more interesting. What's the matter? Afraid that you might
: get turned on more than me? I'll bet my fantasies are more fun than
: yours!

My sexual fantasies aren't about men(nor about any skaters,so no point
discussing further here).


Lee/Gerry Varty

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Dec 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/31/95
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Tigger 645 wrote:
>
> My vote goes for Kurt Browning!!! :)
>
> Ally
> tigg...@aol.comI think Paul Wylie is the handsomest among the men, and Katya is a
definite natural beauty. I also think Josee (especially in her "Moon
River" outfit) is stunning.

Lee
gva...@ccinet.ab.ca

NyokaK

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Dec 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/31/95
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In article <4c27de$f...@cloner2.ix.netcom.com>,
hol...@ix.netcom.com(Holonet ) writes:

>Okay, let's not be sexist here . . . so who's the best-looking guy in
>figure skating? My vote goes to Scott Hamilton (okay, so I'm weird--I
>like short bald guys--I just think he's cute!).
>
>BTW--for ladies, my vote goes to Katya.
>
>Holonet
>
>

I agree with both. But to me Scott's pretty tall :-).

Nyoka

Sklar Toy

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Dec 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/31/95
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In <4c4eqn$p...@sanjuan.islandnet.com> lu...@IslandNet.com (Luree

Dell-Bryan) writes:
>
>lep...@j51.com (Louis Epstein) wrote:
>
>>You don't consider an earring a transvestite affectation?(I know,it
wasn't
>>for Mr. Clean...)
>
>Hey, I think Michael Weiss is great and a little make-up on men makes
>them much more interesting. What's the matter? Afraid that you might
>get turned on more than me? I'll bet my fantasies are more fun than
>yours!
>

My vote went for Christopher Dean. At the time of their reign in
amateur skating, he was definitely the pretty boy, and seemingly the
type any Mom would want her daughter to marry. Of coures, you can't do
anything about the aging process. As for a male skater today...Aren
Nielsen suits the masculine, Gen-X's answer to the 30 something Yuppy.

For ladies, I find Jenni Meno and Natalia Mishkutienok to both possess
so much natural beauty that they don't really need much make-up at all.

Mardi

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Dec 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/31/95
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In article <30E6EA...@ccinet.ab.ca> Lee/Gerry Varty <gva...@ccinet.ab.ca> writes:
>From: Lee/Gerry Varty <gva...@ccinet.ab.ca>
>Subject: Re: Best-looking skaters
>Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 11:53:01 -0800

>Lee
>gva...@ccinet.ab.ca

It's really hard to pick the 'best' looking because there are a lot of very
attractive people out there. For the women my list would include Katya, Lu
Chen, Katerina, Josee, Roslyn anyway. For the men, Philippe, Joseph (sp?),
Sergi etc, etc.

Umm...if there was a seperate list for 'charm' I'd throw in Michelle Kwan,
Kurt Browing, Scott Hamilton.

bell...@cadvision.com

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Jan 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/1/96
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> b...@davewc.mv.com (Brian) writes:

> hol...@ix.netcom.com(Holonet ) wrote:
> >BTW--for ladies, my vote goes to Katya.
> Katerina?? Too many wrinkles. My vote to Nicole, she was absolutley
> stunning in that VOGUE issue. Caryn Kadevy is a beauty too.
> "Everthing about life is funny

"Katya" is Ekaterina Gordeeva, not Katarina Witt. Maybe you are getting the two mixed up. Katya is
only 24 and no wrinkles.

Vella


RFOThree

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Jan 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/1/96
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In article <4c27de$f...@cloner2.ix.netcom.com>,
hol...@ix.netcom.com(Holonet ) writes:

>Okay, let's not be sexist here . . . so who's the best-looking guy in
>figure skating? My vote goes to Scott Hamilton (okay, so I'm weird--I
>like short bald guys--I just think he's cute!).
>
>

This list will come as no surprise to those of you who know me...

Paul Wylie
Petri Kokko
Alexei Urmanov
Kurt Browning

among others...

Amy, ticked as heck at AOL at the moment...
RFOT...@aol.com

Robert Kurniawan

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Jan 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/1/96
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Inspecktor Gadget (an41...@anon.penet.fi) wrote:


: Hey you DUMB FUCK!!! Firstly, you spelt her name WRONG!! Is is spelt
: C-R-I-S-T-I, it is not spelt with a FUCKING K!!! I suggest you start
: using the anon server before some Mexican there at Northwestern discovers
: who you are and decks you. We Mexicans are proud of out heritage and do
: not appreciate having anyone in our race called sluts. Cristi is a very
: beautiful Mexican from Acapulco, Mexico. She is 1/2 japanese, 1/2 Mexican.
: I consider your post an insult to the Mexican people!!! Your admins have
: been notified.

That is why we are here for maaaaaaaaan.....
To insult each other, insinuate hatred and all that..
aint that right everybody ?

--rob--

NyokaK

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Jan 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/1/96
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In article <DKDtw...@mv.mv.com>, b...@davewc.mv.com (Brian) writes:

>Katerina?? Too many wrinkles. My vote to Nicole, she was absolutley
>stunning in that VOGUE issue. Caryn Kadevy is a beauty too.

Katarina is very attractive. Wrinkles come with age - its another thing
that can't be helped therefore should NOT be commented on. Stick with
your own opinions Brian and lay off.
Nyoka

big S

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Jan 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/2/96
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In article <DKDtw...@mv.mv.com>, b...@davewc.mv.com says...

>
>hol...@ix.netcom.com(Holonet ) wrote:
>
>>In <vstarkDK...@netcom.com> vst...@netcom.com (Valerie Stark)
>>writes:
>>>
>>>In article <4c1h61$1...@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
>>>C.J. Poux <p...@mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>Marc Pepe <moo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>kristi is in no way the most beautiful woman in figure skating
>>today.
>>>>>1.Witt (she still has it)
>>>>>2.Gordeeyeva
>>>>>3.Bobek
>>>>>honorable mention: Swejchenko(Tonjia),
>>>>
>>>>my friend, ms. rory flack outflanks all of the above by a longshot.
>>of
>>>>the amateurs, ms. chen lu is luminously beautiful.
>>>>
>>>>poo
>>>
>>>There are lots of pretty ladies skating. There are some
nice-looking
>>>guys skating. There are a few of either sex who aren't terribly
>>>attractive, but they still look good while on the ice.
>>>
>>>My opinion, YMMV.
>>>
>>>Val
>>
>>
>>Okay, let's not be sexist here . . . so who's the best-looking guy in
>>figure skating? My vote goes to Scott Hamilton (okay, so I'm
weird--I
>>like short bald guys--I just think he's cute!).
>>
>>BTW--for ladies, my vote goes to Katya.
>>
>>Holonet

>Katerina?? Too many wrinkles. My vote to Nicole, she was absolutley
>stunning in that VOGUE issue. Caryn Kadevy is a beauty too.
>"Everthing about life is funny"
> -Monica Seles

I agree. I think Nicole is absolutely adorable, and has such an
incredible presence on the ice. She gets my nod.

I don't think Witt is nearly as pretty as Nicole. Gordeeva is very
pretty too. Another is Josee Choiunard (forgive the spelling!) She's
a real cutie.

Again, Nicole is my pick, and she seems to be improving with age, both
in figure and general appearance.

P.S. On a separate subject, she also gets my nod for best legs. I don't
think anyone even comes close to her on this one. Anyone, please
respond with comments. Thanks!


Paula Slater

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Jan 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/2/96
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I think one of the best looking men in skating is Paul Martini
(I want his bod :)

For the ladies, Natalia Annenko, Gordeyeva, and Natalia
Mishkutenok.

Paula Slater

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Jan 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/2/96
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Paula Slater

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Jan 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/2/96
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Paula Slater

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Jan 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/2/96
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Holonet

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In <4c9tni$e...@daily-planet.execpc.com> sche...@execpc.com (big S)
writes:
>
>In article <DKDtw...@mv.mv.com>, b...@davewc.mv.com says...
>>
>>hol...@ix.netcom.com(Holonet ) wrote:
>>
>
>>>Okay, let's not be sexist here . . . so who's the best-looking guy
in
>>>figure skating? My vote goes to Scott Hamilton (okay, so I'm
>weird--I
>>>like short bald guys--I just think he's cute!).
>>>
>>>BTW--for ladies, my vote goes to Katya.
>>>
>>>Holonet
>>Katerina?? Too many wrinkles. My vote to Nicole, she was absolutley
>>stunning in that VOGUE issue. Caryn Kadevy is a beauty too.
>>"Everthing about life is funny"
>> -Monica Seles
>
>I agree. I think Nicole is absolutely adorable, and has such an
>incredible presence on the ice. She gets my nod.


Me again--Holonet. Just to make things perfectly clear--I didn't vote
for Katarina Witt, but Katya (Ekaterina) Gordeeva.

olivia_olivares

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On 30 Dec 1995, tigg...@aol.com (Tigger 645) wrote:

>My vote goes for Kurt Browning!!! :)
>
>Ally
>tigg...@aol.com

I saw a skater named Steven Cousins on "Too Hot to Skate" over
the holiday weekend who was, IMO, gorgeous! However, his skating left a
bit to be desired, and he was definitely outshone by Elvis Stojko. Guess
it takes a little more than looks to excel on the ice ...

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KIM VINES

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I personally think that Katerina is much prettier than Nicole. Nocole is
pretty, but in the 12 year-old sort of way. Katerina is more womanly
(which she is - obviously). Just my opinion.

Kim


Louis Epstein

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mary colletti (mar...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: My vote:

: Katia Gordeeva -- the most beautiful WOMAN (skater or non) -- she was
: flawless from head to toe with a face and smile that could light up a
: building.

My mileage varies...diminutiveness counts seriously against a woman in my
book,and cuteness is no plus...as I said to Karl when he predicted this
thread,the first female skaters who come to mind in the looks department
are Jennifer Blount and Annalise Swanson...most beautiful WOMAN in my mind,
perhaps forever,is an old college crush(who was 5'10" or so).

: second place: Katerina Witt

Not for me...

Nijinska

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My vote:

Men:
1.Aleksei Urmanov (No surprise to anyone who knows me!)
2. Mark Mitchell
3.Ilya Averbukh , of Lobacheva & Averbukh

Ladies:

1. Marina Klimova
2.Natalia Annenko
3.Maya Usova


------Marie
Niji...@aol.com

R. Moes

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On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Louis Epstein wrote:

> My mileage varies...diminutiveness counts seriously against a woman in my
> book,and cuteness is no plus...as I said to Karl when he predicted this
> thread,the first female skaters who come to mind in the looks department
> are Jennifer Blount and Annalise Swanson...most beautiful WOMAN in my mind,
> perhaps forever,is an old college crush(who was 5'10" or so).

Aha! So that's why you were so intrigued by the snowflake soloist....
She was very tall. I also thought she might be Lisa Marie Allen. Allen,
I think is one of the tallest world-class skaters of all time, close to
5'11" but always very smooth and graceful in all elements of her
skating. I would definitely put her up there on the list of best-looking
skaters.

--Rob Moes

Gina Rodriguez

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Women:


Amy Ashton

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>> My mileage varies...diminutiveness counts seriously against a woman in my
>> book,and cuteness is no plus...
>Aha! So that's why you were so intrigued by the snowflake soloist....
>She was very tall.

You heightists. :)

Amy, 5'5" going downhill with a strong tailwind on a good day
--
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must
be lived forwards.
-- Soren Kierkegaard

mary colletti

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My vote:

Katia Gordeeva -- the most beautiful WOMAN (skater or non) -- she was
flawless from head to toe with a face and smile that could light up a
building.

second place: Katerina Witt

Men:
Not proud of it, but Candelero does it for me!

Mary Colletti

Stephen Linhart

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>In article <4c9rq8$5...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, nyo...@aol.com (NyokaK) wrote:

>
>In article <DKDtw...@mv.mv.com>, b...@davewc.mv.com (Brian) writes:
>
>>Katerina?? Too many wrinkles. My vote to Nicole, she was absolutley
>>stunning in that VOGUE issue. Caryn Kadevy is a beauty too.
>
>Katarina is very attractive. Wrinkles come with age - its another thing
>that can't be helped therefore should NOT be commented on. Stick with
>your own opinions Brian and lay off.
>Nyoka

I see nothing wrong with commenting on wrinkles. Witt has very lovely wrinkles.

Kuheather

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I think Aren Nielsen is quite cute, and let's not forget Paul Duchesnay.

mary colletti

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My vote:

second place: Katerina Witt

second place: (tie) Paul Martini & Peter Obergard

Mary Colletti

Gina Rodriguez

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Women:
Yekaterina Gordeeva
Rosalyn Summers
Josee Chounard (sp?)
Caryn Cadeevy (sp?)

Men:
Paul Martini
Sergei Grinkov
Paul Wylie
Michael Weiss

JPFCC

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I agree that Caryn Kadavy and Rory Flack Burghart are both very beautiful.
I really haven't seen any skaters that I think are unatractive. Most are
in good shape and nice-looking. I also think that Aren Nielsen presents a
very handsome look on the ice. Just a note on Micheal Weiss though,
after reading the book "Inside Edge" I get the feeling that he and his
family are very homphobic. He really sounds like he has a problem with
gay people and people thinking he is gay. I lost much respect for him as
a person after reading this.

Su-jan Yip

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My choice:

Ladies:
Ekaterina Gordeeva

She's absolutely stunning and breath-taking (and I'm a girl!)


Men:
Sergei Grinkov (sigh)
Great body :-D

Yes, I'm a G&G fan.
Su-jan.

Luree Dell-Bryan

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mary colletti <mar...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Men:
>
>Not proud of it, but Candelero does it for me!

Just curious but - Would any male skater who 'dares to bare' be a
number one hit? Maybe a second rate skater would get top dollars if
he 'took it off' - or an under-rated skater would attract more
attention?

(Not that Philipe is second-rate. When he kicks out across the ice,
he does it for me too! However, I don't find him handsome. Just love
his hot moves and athletic body.)
--
http://www.islandnet.com/~luree/luree.html
"Surf On Down!"


Jeff Goldsmith

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I'll put forth a vote for Cindy Landry.
--Jeff
--
"And we bid you adieux/
Pray joy for the new."

ESA

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Women:
First place: Natalia Mishkuteniok
Second Place: Natalia Mishkuteniok
Third Place: Josee Chuinard

Men? I cannot judge it.

Cezar

Lorrie Kim

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Jan 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/3/96
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I tried to resist, but I have failed. These are the skaters that
do it for me, not the ones I think are best-looking (I think Peggy
Fleming is beautiful, but she's not my type).

Men:

(this will be no surprise to Trudi) Brian Orser, by a long shot
Michael Chack, yum
Gorsha Sur
John Curry
Viktor Petrenko (whoo! cheekbones)
Robin Cousins
Ron Kravette (he's so weird-looking, it's attractive)
Oh, all right. Paul Martini

Women:

Natalia Mishkutienok
Kristi Yamaguchi
Josee Chouinard
Michelle Kwan
Natalia Annenko
call me crazy, but Tonya Harding, at least from the neck down
Irina Romanova
Shae-Lynn Bourne
Maia Usova
Oksana Baiul
Kitty Carruthers, when she's in pants

I was really struck by the post-awards ceremony TV shot at Skate
International of France. It was Chen Lu, Josee Chouinard and Surya
Bonaly smiling all together, and they all three looked stunning, in such
different ways. Surya can be really pretty sometimes.

My boyfriend says he has votes too. He says Petri Kokko is very
beautiful, and Tonia Kwiatkowski. Isabelle Brasseur. Scott Hamilton, and
John Curry when he has short hair. Kurt Browning (all of my boyfriends
like or have liked Browning. Thanks a lot, Kurt). And we mustn't forget
Dick Button.

Lorrie Kim
lor...@plover.com

An ion cloud

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Heck, I may as well add in my $0.02 worth.

My vote goes to Witt. Wrinkles or no (she has wrinkles?!?) I still find
her the most attractive, or at least the most interesting (from what
little I've seen of her on interviews, etc.) of the female (singles) skaters.


Andrew

Margaret Burwell

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RFOThree (rfot...@aol.com) writes:
>
> This list will come as no surprise to those of you who know me...
>
> Paul Wylie
> Petri Kokko
> Alexei Urmanov
> Kurt Browning

Amy, how could you forget Sasha Zulin and Petr Barna. Both have been
recipients of the "best butt" award at Worlds in the past. If you like
them dark and brooding, look no further than Paul Duchesnay.

Marg


Amy Ashton

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>> This list will come as no surprise to those of you who know me...
>>
>> Paul Wylie
>> Petri Kokko
>> Alexei Urmanov
>> Kurt Browning
>Amy, how could you forget Sasha Zulin and Petr Barna.

D'oh! Must have been a brain lapse.

Oh, for the halcyon days before tights on men were illegal...

Amy

Amy Ashton

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[re. Michael Weiss]

>I get the feeling that he and his
>family are very homphobic. He really sounds like he has a problem with
>gay people and people thinking he is gay. I lost much respect for him as
>a person after reading this.

Don't believe everything you read. :) Judging from the amount of
rumor and innuendo Brennan repeated in just the few pages I read,
who knows what Michael and his family actually said.

Amy Ashton

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>If he's so anti-homosexual why does he wear an earring?

That doesn't mean anything anymore. Half my male friends --
gay and straight -- wear earrings.

Amy Ashton

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>No harm intended to Mexicans, but her name is Kristi, not Cristi, and she
>is JAPANESE-AMERICAN. Alas, she does indeed have a caved-in profile and
>thunderthighs that won't quit.

To quote one of the commentators from the '92 Olympics, "Some
of my houseplants' stems are wider than her legs!"

NyokaK

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I was going to not post my favorites as I don't usually like that sort of
thing and there are so many I think are attractive, but It keeps going on
& on so here goes.

Ladies: in no particular order ( I can't rate, I just CAN'T :-))

Katya Gordeeva (probably #1)
Katarina Witt
Midori Ito
Denise Beilman (not facial so much, but I'd kill to have her body)
Yuka Sato (especially cute)
Caryn Kadevy
Dorothy Hamill
Kristi Yamaguchi
Isabella Braesur (sp) (i know most people will disagree here)
Christine Hough (my husband's favorite)
Nathalia Mistachunik (sp)
Oksana Baiul
and Michelle Kwan is growing up to be very lovely
Nancy Kerrigan could make this list if her attitude would improve IMHO

GUYS
Scott Hamilton #1 (reminds me of my dad - short, bald, great personality)
Sergei Grinkov :-(
Rocky Marvel
Lloyd Eisler
Phillipe Candeloro
Josef Savobchik (sp)
Gary Beacom
The Olympic style Chris Bowman (I had SUCH a crush on him)
Brian Boitano
Kurt Browning
Brian Orser


I'm sure there are other I can't think of off hand. Most people won't
agree with most of these choices, but I've always had a hard time making
up my mind - obviously ;-).
Nyoka


Louis Epstein

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JPFCC (jp...@aol.com) wrote:
: I agree that Caryn Kadavy and Rory Flack Burghart are both very beautiful.

: I really haven't seen any skaters that I think are unatractive. Most are
: in good shape and nice-looking. I also think that Aren Nielsen presents a
: very handsome look on the ice. Just a note on Micheal Weiss though,
: after reading the book "Inside Edge" I get the feeling that he and his

: family are very homphobic. He really sounds like he has a problem with
: gay people and people thinking he is gay. I lost much respect for him as
: a person after reading this.

If he's so anti-homosexual why does he wear an earring?


Isoruku Yamamoto

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gau...@selway.umt.edu (Robert Kurniawan) wrote:
>Inspecktor Gadget (an41...@anon.penet.fi) wrote:
>
>
>: Hey you DUMB FUCK!!! Firstly, you spelt her name WRONG!! Is is spelt
>: C-R-I-S-T-I, it is not spelt with a FUCKING K!!! I suggest you start
>: using the anon server before some Mexican there at Northwestern discovers
>: who you are and decks you. We Mexicans are proud of out heritage and do
>: not appreciate having anyone in our race called sluts. Cristi is a very
>: beautiful Mexican from Acapulco, Mexico. She is 1/2 japanese, 1/2 Mexican.
>: I consider your post an insult to the Mexican people!!! Your admins have
>: been notified.

No harm intended to Mexicans, but her name is Kristi, not Cristi, and she
is JAPANESE-AMERICAN. Alas, she does indeed have a caved-in profile and

thunderthighs that won't quit. Oksana Baiul is infinitely better looking.

Isoruku Yamamoto
IJN (ret).

Louis Epstein

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Amy Ashton (bn...@yfn.ysu.edu) wrote:

: >If he's so anti-homosexual why does he wear an earring?

: That doesn't mean anything anymore. Half my male friends --


: gay and straight -- wear earrings.

In equal proportions???


Louis Epstein

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Lorrie Kim (lor...@plover.com) wrote:

: Women:

: Shae-Lynn Bourne

...yes...and when it comes to Canadians,let's not forget Jennifer Boyce
and Jennifer Robinson!!

Sofia Chatos

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Best looking femaie skater: Katya Gordeeva
Best looking mail skater: Alexander Zhulin

bell...@cadvision.com wrote:
: > b...@davewc.mv.com (Brian) writes:
: > hol...@ix.netcom.com(Holonet ) wrote:
: > >BTW--for ladies, my vote goes to Katya.
: > Katerina?? Too many wrinkles. My vote to Nicole, she was absolutley


: > stunning in that VOGUE issue. Caryn Kadevy is a beauty too.

: > "Everthing about life is funny

: "Katya" is Ekaterina Gordeeva, not Katarina Witt. Maybe you are getting the two mixed up. Katya is
: only 24 and no wrinkles.

: Vella


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