Sasha Cohen the actress?
Ryan Evans
Can she sustain an acting career with her crackly voice?
It is not suited for hollywood.
She should take the one good part that comes her way, but stay in skating.
Pidge
Crackly voice?
The camera loves her and she loves the camera. We're not talking the
performance of the century here - if she wants wants to do movies, go for it, I
say.
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"Ryan Evans" <ryan...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Can she sustain an acting career with her crackly voice?
> It is not suited for hollywood.
> She should take the one good part that comes her way, but stay in skating.
An excellent point. However........
Have you ever heard Tara Lipinski orate?
> GGG<
Cheers.
Anton
She's got a way to go before she matches the curves of most
actresses.....She could still play the adolesent teen no problem.
Rose
As long as she takes young woman parts a crackly voice would be a boon.
Sarah Michelle Gellar has a much cracklier voice and she's had a
successful ingenue career. However, once the crackly-voiced ladies are
no longer young enough to play teenagers and college students, they run
into a problem. Molly Ringwald has never lost what I call "the Los
Angeles croak", which is illustrated by the way a so-called Valley
Girl's words disappear into her throat at the end of every sentence.
And look what happened to her career.
Sasha's voice is not nearly as crackly as some actresses, so I think
she would do ok if she has real talent. Whether she's a natural talent
or not she should study acting. Acting is a craft, not merely a talent.
She'll tank early on if she doesn't take classes or take on an acting
coach.
Rose
I wanna see a list of these film and TV actresses with curves. I can't
think of but one or two.
Tracy Friesen
> Sasha's voice is not nearly as crackly as some actresses, so I think
> she would do ok if she has real talent.
I don't think Sasha's 'crackly' voice is a problem, but her speech is a
little on the monotone side. She needs to have more highs/lows in her
intonations. But that's easily enough dealt with through a good voice
coach.
Tracy
Dirk
> I don't think Sasha's 'crackly' voice is a problem, but her speech is a
> little on the monotone side. She needs to have more highs/lows in her
> intonations. But that's easily enough dealt with through a good voice
> coach.
>
The most obvious advantage for Tara or Katarina getting parts, over
Sasha-as-actress, is that they had a better hook from their
accomplishments of being World and Olympic gold medalist.
Tara also showed what to me was INCREDIBLE poise and intelligence in
her post-Olympic week appearances. She spoke like a seasoned actor
instead of a young skater.
The one advantage over Tara, Cohen has a cuter face -- looks like a
doll. It is hard to tell though, because sometimes the person we think
has a beautiful face for a skater, you put them up there on the screen
with a bunch of actors in their age group, and they end up looking like
the peculiar looking one in the bunch.
However, without the hook of Olympic gold, being thrown in the pool of
of struggling young actresses working their way up, well, her chances
are very low. However, who knows, maybe someone will write a skating
movie, and she'll be perfect for the part, and on her way.
In that People's Choice thing a while back, Cohen gave what for me, was
a wonderful performance. She looked relaxed. All her jumps and moves
were delightful to watch. She may relax into a great professional
career as a skater.
Sonja Henie wasn't a very good actress, but she had a special quality,
a coy sensuality, a radiance on the screen. I guess we'll have to wait
and see, how Cohen looks and sounds on the big screen. Acting lessons
can only go so far.
Dirk
barbara
> However, without the hook of Olympic gold, being thrown in the pool of
> of struggling young actresses working their way up, well, her chances
> are very low. However, who knows, maybe someone will write a skating
> movie, and she'll be perfect for the part, and on her way.
Ben Stiller has already contacted Sasha for just such a movie. If her
acting is good, she will have a wonderful future. She is such a
beautiful girl, Hollywood will love her if she can act.
Anton
Hey
She could play Kimmie in a life story film.......
Whoops.....!
Louis Epstein
: Tracy Friesen wrote:
:
:> I don't think Sasha's 'crackly' voice is a problem, but her speech is a
:> little on the monotone side. She needs to have more highs/lows in her
:> intonations. But that's easily enough dealt with through a good voice
:> coach.
:>
: The most obvious advantage for Tara or Katarina getting parts, over
: Sasha-as-actress, is that they had a better hook from their
: accomplishments of being World and Olympic gold medalist.
:
: Tara also showed what to me was INCREDIBLE poise and intelligence in
: her post-Olympic week appearances. She spoke like a seasoned actor
: instead of a young skater.
Nothing can atone for Tara's appalling ear-mutilating screeches
when she heard she won!
: The one advantage over Tara, Cohen has a cuter face -- looks like a
: doll. It is hard to tell though, because sometimes the person we think
: has a beautiful face for a skater, you put them up there on the screen
: with a bunch of actors in their age group, and they end up looking like
: the peculiar looking one in the bunch.
:
: However, without the hook of Olympic gold, being thrown in the pool of
: of struggling young actresses working their way up, well, her chances
: are very low. However, who knows, maybe someone will write a skating
: movie, and she'll be perfect for the part, and on her way.
:
: In that People's Choice thing a while back, Cohen gave what for me, was
: a wonderful performance. She looked relaxed. All her jumps and moves
: were delightful to watch. She may relax into a great professional
: career as a skater.
:
: Sonja Henie wasn't a very good actress, but she had a special quality,
: a coy sensuality, a radiance on the screen. I guess we'll have to wait
: and see, how Cohen looks and sounds on the big screen. Acting lessons
: can only go so far.
Can Cohen grow beyond the China-doll coquette image?
Does she want to?
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Fiona McQuarrie
: Dirk wrote:
Those are big "if"s, especially since as far as we know she hasn't had any
significant amount of acting training. And there are lots of good-looking
women struggling to get work in Hollywood already.
Fiona
John F
"Fiona McQuarrie" <mcqu...@sfu.ca> wrote in message
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> Those are big "if"s, especially since as far as we know she hasn't had any
> significant amount of acting training. And there are lots of good-looking
> women struggling to get work in Hollywood already.
And has anyone considered that she is probably just too darned short. ;o)
John
barbara
True, but Sasha already has name recognition, and that will help her get
her foot in the door at auditions whereas an unknown person cannot even
get an appointment for a reading.
Fiona McQuarrie
Her name recognition is as a skater, not an actress. I would guess the
only type of show her name recognition would get her foot in the door for
would be something like "The Surreal Life".
Fiona
barbara
You are wrong. Talent agents will be looking to sign Sasha and send her
on auditions. Sasha has name recognition, period. Yes, she made her
name famous as a skater, a very beautiful skater; but she can get
auditions that anonymous though talented people cannot. That is why the
children of stars have such an easy time getting their foot in the door.
They aren't known, but their parents are; so the parent's name
recognition gets the children in the door.
Fiona McQuarrie
: Fiona McQuarrie wrote:
:> Her name recognition is as a skater, not an actress. I would guess the
:> only type of show her name recognition would get her foot in the door for
:> would be something like "The Surreal Life".
:>
:> Fiona
: You are wrong. Talent agents will be looking to sign Sasha and send her
: on auditions. Sasha has name recognition, period. Yes, she made her
: name famous as a skater, a very beautiful skater; but she can get
: auditions that anonymous though talented people cannot. That is why the
: children of stars have such an easy time getting their foot in the door.
: They aren't known, but their parents are; so the parent's name
: recognition gets the children in the door.
Getting signed (for whatever reason) and/or going on auditions is not the
same as having an acting career, and if Sasha doesn't have the goods as an
actress her name recognition is not going to help her get parts.
Fiona
ris
Fiona McQuarrie wrote:
> Getting signed (for whatever reason) and/or going on auditions is not the
> same as having an acting career, and if Sasha doesn't have the goods as an
> actress her name recognition is not going to help her get parts.
In fact, her name recognition might actually work against her - people
will be more critical of her performances and less willing to accept
imperfection. There will be "acting snobs" who derride her for
crossing over, whether or not she has decent skills to offer. But
those will be balanced, at least in some part, by the die-hard fans for
whom she can do no wrong, again whether or not she has decent skills.
The more she plays down the influence of the first group and plays up
the influence of the second group will probably have a lot to do with
any possible success. But whether or not her name recognition is
ultimately an asset or a hindrance, to me, seems impossible to tell
except in hindsight. Certainly is something that *could* end up
working in her favor in terms of getting attention for auditions and
roles. But it could also end up making her acting career really
difficult to sustain once people have begun to form opinions about her
in that arena.
ris
barbara
Reread what I said. Her name recognition will get her the opportunity
to "get parts." She will audition for roles that she would not even get
an interview for as a complete unknown. Then, if she can act, Hollywood
will love her. Because of her name recognition, she will have a chance.
Anton
She needs to go bad however....Needs a bit of a party girl image and
also maybe an upfront relationship with a few stars....
Sasha needs to start appearing in People, Star, OK, and other
magazines.
She may need a bit of plastic surgery as well.
ptwin...@yahoo.com
Thurman, Sandra Bullock, Sharon Stone, Roselyn Sanchez, Salma Hayek,
Courtney Cox, Christina Appelgate, Sigourney Weaver, Constance Marie
etc.
Bubbles
> ...she made her name famous as a skater...but she can get auditions
> that anonymous though talented people cannot. That is why the
> children of stars have such an easy time getting their foot in the door.
> They aren't known, but their parents are; so the parent's name
> recognition gets the children in the door.
Something that has always irritated me is hearing the child of a star or
director or producer say, "My parent's name may have opened the door, but
*I* had to walk through it." The twits can't grasp that their parent's name
is the *only* reason the door opened, a door that might never open for an
acting genius whose father is a dentist in North Dakota.
Bubbles
---
"I was hyperventilating with Vera Wang."
(Brian Boitano on the 2002 Winter Olympics)
Fiona McQuarrie
: Fiona wrote:
:> ...she made her name famous as a skater...but she can get auditions
:> that anonymous though talented people cannot. That is why the
:> children of stars have such an easy time getting their foot in the door.
:> They aren't known, but their parents are; so the parent's name
:> recognition gets the children in the door.
: Something that has always irritated me is hearing the child of a star or
: director or producer say, "My parent's name may have opened the door, but
: *I* had to walk through it." The twits can't grasp that their parent's name
: is the *only* reason the door opened, a door that might never open for an
: acting genius whose father is a dentist in North Dakota.
While I agree with you, I have to point out that I did not say what is
quoted above.
Fiona
Bubbles
Sorry, I must have gotten lost in the thread. Nevertheless, Charlie Sheen,
Gwyneth Paltrow, Kate Hudson and their ilk still annoy me.
barbara
> Fiona wrote:
>
>>...she made her name famous as a skater...but she can get auditions
>> that anonymous though talented people cannot. That is why the
>>children of stars have such an easy time getting their foot in the door.
>>They aren't known, but their parents are; so the parent's name
>>recognition gets the children in the door.
>
>
> Something that has always irritated me is hearing the child of a star or
> director or producer say, "My parent's name may have opened the door, but
> *I* had to walk through it." The twits can't grasp that their parent's name
> is the *only* reason the door opened, a door that might never open for an
> acting genius whose father is a dentist in North Dakota.
>
> Bubbles
You are so right, Bubbles. Now Sasha has a true advantage that her own
name recognition, not her parents' or anybody else's, will help her walk
through that door. If she has talent, she will have the opportunity to
show it.
barbara
The quote above was from my post, to which Fiona responded and strongly
disagreed.
Chelsea Christenson
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> Fiona McQuarrie wrote:
>> Getting signed (for whatever reason) and/or going on auditions is not the
>> same as having an acting career, and if Sasha doesn't have the goods as
>> an actress her name recognition is not going to help her get parts.
>>
>> Fiona
>
> Reread what I said. Her name recognition will get her the opportunity to
> "get parts." She will audition for roles that she would not even get an
> interview for as a complete unknown.
Getting access to parts is not the same thing as actually getting parts --
as many struggling actresses will be happy to explain, in detail....
barbara
access to parts," whereas Sasha will, because of her name recognition.
Then, if she has acting talent, she will actually get the parts.
ptwin...@yahoo.com
>her foot in the door at auditions whereas an unknown person cannot even
>get an appointment for a reading.
We all know the work put into being a world-class athlete. To presume a
person can walk into an audition and "act" competently is almost as
ludicrous as saying a person skate onto the ice w/out ever having done
it and start doing triple toe loops.
Sasha's future as an "actress" will be playing herself. One can only
hope she can pull that off convincingly.
barbara
character who is a figure skater; there will be a storyline; she will
not be playing herself. If she can act, she will move on to other parts.
Fiona McQuarrie
:>
: In the film Sasha will be doing for Ben Stiller, she will portray a
: not be playing herself. If she can act, she will move on to other parts.
Are you saying that Sasha is not a figure skater? Damn, life is hard when
you don't have that Olympic Gold Medal.....
Fiona
Anton
Look there are curves, there is thin and there is simply Boyish.
Adding to the List
Lindsey Lohan, Paris Hilton, Micha Barton, All the chicks in
Smallville, Scarlet Johanson, Witherspoon. Angelina Jolie, thin but
busty. Pammy........
barbara
Learning Centers or Sylvan might help you improve your comprehension
skills. Your whole purpose seems to be to say something contrary to
whatever I say, and now you are being ridiculous.
Fiona McQuarrie
Speaking of being ridiculous, there is no indication that Sasha "will be
doing" this film. There is simply a celebrity gossip news item that they
talked about the film at a party, which you seem to have read as her being
cast *and* being cast in a specific role.
Fiona
Bruce Scott TOK
>I wanna see a list of these film and TV actresses with curves. I can't
>think of but one or two.
Maybe that's why all those adolescent commentators thought Kate Winslet
was fat... they'd forgotten what real women look like.
Another two real ones are the stars from Xena...
--
ciao,
Bruce
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Rose
barbara wrote:
> Chelsea Christenson wrote:
> > "barbara" <bba...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> That's true, but many very talented people will never be able to "get
> access to parts," whereas Sasha will, because of her name recognition.
> Then, if she has acting talent, she will actually get the parts.
God knows untalented people NEVER get acting roles. :D
Rose
> She needs to go bad however....Needs a bit of a party girl image and
> also maybe an upfront relationship with a few stars....
>
> Sasha needs to start appearing in People, Star, OK, and other
> magazines.
>
May I suggest a few men's magazines? They've jump started more than a
few careers.
> She may need a bit of plastic surgery as well.
You're probably right, as almost every Hollywood actress apparently
agrees.