Pfenning Dismissed As Referee

Mel G G

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Mar 21, 2003, 8:21:44 PM3/21/03

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Fiona McQuarrie

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Mar 21, 2003, 11:51:27 PM3/21/03

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Mel G G <me...@aol.com> wrote:
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The SkateFAIR website (http://www.skatefair.org> has posted 13 pages of
faxed correspondence between $peedy and Pfenning, culminating in the very
terse letter from $peedy booting Pfenning from Worlds. Verrrry interesting
reading, and very scary that $peedy is so oblivious to how sleazy and
corrupt dismissing someone for attempting to follow the rules might look
to others.

Fiona

bex Hunter

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Mar 22, 2003, 5:56:26 AM3/22/03

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I am definitely feeling a sea change looking at these faxes.

First, that Ron did this at all. Incredible. Bravo.

Then that we are seeing it...it wasn't all behind closed doors,
hush, hush. Amazing.

This is the kind of thing that could cause a schism.

Maybe SkateFAIR has given people the support they need to
stand up for what is right. Or maybe it is something else.
But it is a beautiful thing to behold!

I am hoping we can get through Worlds without some sort of
"fist fight" between officials and the ISU.

Wow.

-B

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Beckie Hunter b...@world.std.com
"Profound is a firm grasp of the obvious."

Ann Watson

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Mar 22, 2003, 9:03:27 AM3/22/03

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ex Hunter wrote:
> I am definitely feeling a sea change looking at these faxes.
>
> First, that Ron did this at all. Incredible. Bravo.
>
> Then that we are seeing it...it wasn't all behind closed doors,
> hush, hush. Amazing.
>
> This is the kind of thing that could cause a schism.
>
> Maybe SkateFAIR has given people the support they need to
> stand up for what is right. Or maybe it is something else.
> But it is a beautiful thing to behold!
>
> I am hoping we can get through Worlds without some sort of
> "fist fight" between officials and the ISU.
>
> Wow.
>
> -B
>

Could Skate FAIR also start an "Impeach Cinquanta" campaign? (Or is it
already part of the campaign).

Ann

Capcomop

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Mar 22, 2003, 12:33:20 PM3/22/03

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>Subject: Re: Pfenning Dismissed As Referee
>From: Fiona McQuarrie mcqu...@sfu.ca
>Date: 3/21/2003 10:51 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <b5gq4f$ff1$1...@morgoth.sfu.ca>

Worlds is beginning to stink as badly as the Olys!
Look out American ladies! There are bound to be reprisals and I'll bet it comes
in judging.
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Trudi Marrapodi

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Mar 22, 2003, 12:50:30 PM3/22/03

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In article <3E7C6D2F...@NOTSOhotmail.com>, Ann Watson
<soob...@NOTSOhotmail.com> wrote:

[snip]

> Could Skate FAIR also start an "Impeach Cinquanta" campaign? (Or is it
> already part of the campaign).

SkateFAIR does not focus on individuals. SkateFAIR focuses on reform of
the system. And I agree.

I, like many fans, think Cinquanta is an idiot and a despot. However, I do
not want to see him step down or be forced out, only to be replaced by yet
another despot who subscribes to the same corrupt culture and way of doing
things.

Skating needs more than just the ouster of one man. It needs reform--from
top to bottom.
--
Trudi
"The message has come through to me loud and clear: 'We don't care. We don't have to. We're the ISU. We are accountable to no one. So shut up and let us make our decisions in secrecy, and explain them to you not at all."
--Me, posting to RSSIF, 6/16/2000, in response to a report on the 48th Ordinary ISU Congress
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Ann Watson

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Mar 22, 2003, 8:04:35 PM3/22/03

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Trudi Marrapodi wrote:
> In article <3E7C6D2F...@NOTSOhotmail.com>, Ann Watson
> <soob...@NOTSOhotmail.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>
>>Could Skate FAIR also start an "Impeach Cinquanta" campaign? (Or is it
>>already part of the campaign).
>
>
> SkateFAIR does not focus on individuals. SkateFAIR focuses on reform of
> the system. And I agree.
>
> I, like many fans, think Cinquanta is an idiot and a despot. However, I do
> not want to see him step down or be forced out, only to be replaced by yet
> another despot who subscribes to the same corrupt culture and way of doing
> things.
>
> Skating needs more than just the ouster of one man. It needs reform--from
> top to bottom.

I still think Mr. Cinquanta is a big obstacle to any real reform.

Ann W.

Trudi Marrapodi

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Mar 23, 2003, 5:00:45 AM3/23/03

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In article <3E7D0823...@NOTSOhotmail.com>, Ann Watson
<soob...@NOTSOhotmail.com> wrote:

I agree entirely. I am not saying I would not be happy to see him go.
However, I do not think getting rid of him will solve all of skating's
problems. They're woven too deeply into the fabric of the ISU.

The whole organization needs to change...and if Cinquanta can't go along
with the change or agree with the change, which I'm sure he can't, he
should step down and make way for someone who wants to implement real
change.

Hattie54

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Mar 24, 2003, 3:54:42 PM3/24/03

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>
>The whole organization needs to change...

So does the USOC .

Harriet