Let's talk about "Skating With Celebrities"
Ablang
the commercials of all the 'celebrities' falling attracted me to it.
Last episode, Todd Bridges & Jenni Meno were eliminated. Too
bad. Jenni has always been one of my favorite pairs skaters. Alas,
even her & her husband couldn't save that team.
Next up to go should be Dave Coulier's team, followed by
Deborah Gibson's team. Just not a whole lot of skating going on.
Jillian Barberie's team should win easily. They are head &
shoulders above the other groups. Who knew that at the ripe old age
of 38, that she was still sexy, and could perform well technically?
The judges are being way too hard on them. Her & Zimmerman are
powerful and seem to have a lot of chemistry together. Who came up
with these pairings anyway? I'd like to re-arrange the teams for more
balance.
I have a feeling she would win no matter what partner she was
paired up with, whether it was Kurt Browning or Lloyd Eisler. And
speaking of Lloyd, they said he had been skating with Isabelle for 17
years. What happened to her?
The underdog team and 1st runner up is Bruce Jenner's team. I
like them, but they are a ways behind Jill's team.
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have had some skating experience, while others (as was stated) had none
at all. I would have preferred that all participants come from a
similar never or almost-never skated. Experience gives these people a
great advantage and minimizes the accomplishments of those who are
complete newbies. I could accept a "handicap" for experienced
participants which would give us more lovely performances, but keep the
scoring on a more fair level. Perhaps the producers will consider
something like this in the future.
I am really enjoying the show regardless. This is the kind of reality
TV I appreciate - the meanness is kept to a minimum, the fun is kept
high and human ability, ambition and hard work is rewarded.
cp
Stacey Malden
below. In addition, the couples with male pros have an advantage because
they can "support" the women. And the couples where the male pro is a pairs
skater...well there is no comparison (i.e., Lloyd and John Z's teams).
I feel sorry for the male celebrities. I think they are at a huge
disadvantage.
On the plus side, I admire these celebrities for working hard and doing
amazingly well. It's suprising that "beginners" can spin, skate backwards
and forwards with ease and hardly fall at all. It almost makes skating
look easy. I know it's not.
S
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Shillelagh
"Ablang" <HilaryDu...@ablang-duff.com> wrote in message
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> First of all, I love this show. I love figure skating, and
> the commercials of all the 'celebrities' falling attracted me to it.
(shrug) it's okay.
> Jillian Barberie's team should win easily. They are head &
> shoulders above the other groups. Who knew that at the ripe old age
> of 38, that she was still sexy, and could perform well technically?
Gee whiz - it couldn't be because she had skating lessons as a teen (or
younger)??? It's like riding a bike, once you know how, you can always do
it. It's hardly fair, considering someone like Deborah Gibson had never
put on a pair of skates before this show. Bleah.
> And speaking of Lloyd, they said he had been skating with Isabelle for 17
> years. What happened to her?
They only stopped skating professionally last year or the year before?? (I
think). Isabelle has been married to Rocky Marval for a while and they've
had a child. She also has a heart problem.
> The underdog team and 1st runner up is Bruce Jenner's team. I
> like them, but they are a ways behind Jill's team.
I like Jenner's enthusiasm, but find him hard to look at with all those face
lifts that have gone bad. As for being behind - as previously stated, she's
had skating lessons in her past.
Shelagh
cpmomcat
those face
lifts that have gone bad>>
This is the second reference I've read to Jenner's face lifts that have
"gone bad". I did not notice this about him so I re-watched the
episode (I love Tivo) and I looked very closely and could not see
anything that remotely resembled "gone bad" - or even "looks bad". I
thought he looked fine. I've seen some lousy plastic surgery, and I've
seen some mildly distasteful ones - and we've all seen Michael Jackson.
Jenner just looks a little boyish - but I think that might be more
genetics than facelifts. So what's up with the obsession on this?
cp
barbara
He looked fine to me, too. In fact, handsome.
daydr...@coldmail.com
badly) this show is extremely inspirational to me.
It would be better if the partners all had NO experience and were all true
first-time adult skaters... that would inspire people the most to get out
there and give skating a try, but I guess they're not trying to "do the most
good" and fun for everyone at home, I guess that can't be the main objective
of any tv show really...
I really am enjoying the Bruce Jenner pair the best as I believe he's a true
first-timer so his abilities so far have really been stunning. Especially
his waltz jumps! As for his face... he looks a little bit too "bright eyed
and bushy tailed" so I can see why the comments, but I don't find it too
distracting... but now that you brought it up... I might, LOL!
Monday nights are now the highlight of my week as far as tv watching goes.
Actually I haven't made a point of watching any weekly series in many years,
so you know I love this show!
:)
Deedee
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Tzigaane
> "Ablang" <HilaryDu...@ablang-duff.com> wrote in message
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>
>>First of all, I love this show. I love figure skating, and
>>the commercials of all the 'celebrities' falling attracted me to it.
>
>
> (shrug) it's okay.
>
>
>>Jillian Barberie's team should win easily. They are head &
>>shoulders above the other groups. Who knew that at the ripe old age
>>of 38, that she was still sexy, and could perform well technically?
>
>
> Gee whiz - it couldn't be because she had skating lessons as a teen (or
> younger)??? It's like riding a bike, once you know how, you can always do
> it. It's hardly fair, considering someone like Deborah Gibson had never
> put on a pair of skates before this show. Bleah.
I think in the very first show, when she was telling Dorothy how much
she had looked up to her, she phrased it something like "when I skated
as a child and into my teen years" (I'm paraphrasing).
She could have skated as much as 10 years. So yeah, it's not even close
to a level playing field. But then again, who really cares?
tzigaane
Shillelagh
It's the "we all see different things" syndrome. Jenner was quite handsome
when he was younger, and unlike most people, decided he had to try to
continue to look youthful (or whatever). He always had rather "fine"
features, and now, I feel (just my opinion here) that he looks like a very
strange woman. Someone previously provided a link to a web site about
plastic surgery gone bad.... and it really shows the differences in his
appearance. I'll try Googling for the link and will provide it if I can
find it, unless someone has it handy.
Shelagh
Shillelagh
"Tzigaane" <tzig...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Shillelagh wrote:
> >
> > Gee whiz - it couldn't be because she had skating lessons as a teen (or
> > younger)??? It's like riding a bike, once you know how, you can always
do
> > it. It's hardly fair, considering someone like Deborah Gibson had
never
> > put on a pair of skates before this show. Bleah.
>
> I think in the very first show, when she was telling Dorothy how much
> she had looked up to her, she phrased it something like "when I skated
> as a child and into my teen years" (I'm paraphrasing).
> She could have skated as much as 10 years. So yeah, it's not even close
> to a level playing field. But then again, who really cares?
>
> tzigaane
I realize this show isn't about brain surgery and in the overall scheme of
things, it doesn't matter. In the interests of fairness to all concerned
who are trying hard to skate and make the show a success, I think the
playing field should have been level. Barberie is light years ahead of the
other celebrities in her skating ability, and it shows.
Shelagh
Fiona McQuarrie
: <<I like Jenner's enthusiasm, but find him hard to look at with all
I don't think it's so much that his plastic surgery has "gone bad". It's
more that his face is so tight and so unnatural looking - he didn't even
look that young when he was that young....
Fiona
(and I've seen it up close)
shallah
> have had some skating experience, while others (as was stated) had none
> at all. I would have preferred that all participants come from a
> similar never or almost-never skated. Experience gives these people a
> great advantage and minimizes the accomplishments of those who are
> complete newbies. I could accept a "handicap" for experienced
> participants which would give us more lovely performances, but keep the
> scoring on a more fair level. Perhaps the producers will consider
> something like this in the future.
It is very unfair that some have experience while others are total newbies.
It is like Dancing with the Stars where Stacy K. trained in dance for some
15 years according to the baltimore sun. Ringers put a bad taste in my
mouth. If they want to be fair have two levels - total newbies & those who
puttered around the local pond as kids at most and seperately have those who
have actual training in hockey or FS.
shallah
daydr...@coldmail.com
too, so there seems to be a sliding scale already in place... I noticed it
last week but forgot all about it until tonight when their marks weren't
that high.
Tai and "Bright Eyes" did GREAT they're my favorites for sure. I agreed
with Dorothy when she said how impressive he has been and continues to be.
They're a great pair and I loved their performance tonight once again.
I also agreed with Nick about the stopwatch time Lloyd's partner spends in
the air - that is not skating, it's going around being carried. She does
have her part to do what with holding herself rigid enough not to get hurt
and you can see how far that got her tonight. I was a little disgusted that
nobody seemed to be interested in the fact that she was bleeding! At any
rate if they continue to just skate around with her in the air next week, I
hope they don't make the cut.
Deedee
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Pidge
I agree it's not right. Ruins the fun, if you ask me.
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daydr...@COLDmail.com wrote:
> From tonight's judging I can see they are being a LOT tougher on Barberie
> too, so there seems to be a sliding scale already in place... I noticed it
> last week but forgot all about it until tonight when their marks weren't
> that high.
I think the problem with that is that Barberie is so much better than
the rest that she is bored with it. And her partner fell -- she didn't
have the best performance of the night by any measure and the scores
indicated it.
> Tai and "Bright Eyes" did GREAT they're my favorites for sure. I agreed
> with Dorothy when she said how impressive he has been and continues to be.
> They're a great pair and I loved their performance tonight once again.
If I didn't have, essentially, spoiler material on who wins this thing,
I'd say Bruce probably would be a frontrunner. He's clearly the best
_athlete_ on the show, and it's doubly clear that they are going to
judge this as an athletic contest above all other considerations.
(Which, of course, leads to celebs badly in over their heads getting
hurt. Welcome to "Celebrity 'The Chamber' On Ice!!!" I think Fox
wants the celebs hurt -- if it bleeds, it leads.)
> I also agreed with Nick about the stopwatch time Lloyd's partner spends in
> the air - that is not skating, it's going around being carried. She does
She should've been eliminated this week, until something happened with
the last performance -- try to find the three required elements in the
Gibson/Browning routine. (Here's a hint -- you won't!!) Kristy is
just NOT QUALIFIED for this in any measure. Lloyd is trying to cover
up for Kristy and it barely kept them alive this far.
> have her part to do what with holding herself rigid enough not to get hurt
> and you can see how far that got her tonight. I was a little disgusted that
> nobody seemed to be interested in the fact that she was bleeding! At any
> rate if they continue to just skate around with her in the air next week, I
> hope they don't make the cut.
Want the bad news, or the worse??
Mike
daydr...@coldmail.com
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What I hear you saying is that Bruce doesn't win *sob* but I am glad to know
because now I won't become emotionally invested in him winning (like I
probably would have) as for bad or worse news about Lloyd's team? Bring it
on - I have no emotional investment in any of the other teams. If Bruce
doesn't win, I can just enjoy the show without a care as to who wins.
Thanks for the info so far too!
Deedee
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Julie Bixby
>
>
> It is very unfair that some have experience while others are total newbies.
> It is like Dancing with the Stars where Stacy K. trained in dance for some
> 15 years according to the baltimore sun. Ringers put a bad taste in my
> mouth. If they want to be fair have two levels - total newbies & those who
> puttered around the local pond as kids at most and seperately have those who
> have actual training in hockey or FS.
>
> shallah
ITA (I totally agree). Although it appears the judges are giving points
to Jenner for progress, having widely different skating abilities does
not make a fair competition. To make it even more fair to the female
pros and single skaters like Kurt, I would impose the ice dance rule of
no overhead lifts.
I cringe every time Jenner does a waltz jump. Not because of how
awkward it is, but because after two years of lessons, I was never brave
enough to make that leap (pun intended).
--
Julie Bixby
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Pidge
I fully expect *cough* *eyeroll* Kerrigan to win it. Maybe I'll go look for
spoilers, see if it's still worth watching.
Shillelagh
> She should've been eliminated this week, until something happened with
> the last performance -- try to find the three required elements in the
> Gibson/Browning routine. (Here's a hint -- you won't!!)
I don't tape this show, so can't go back and look, but seems to me they did
the forward lunge thing, just that Gibson's wasn't held all that long.
(shrug)
Shelagh
Rex!!
archives, and you will SEE how much damage he has done to his face. He
was so handsome, he didn't need to do any of that stuff.
His skating is okay, though.
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daydr...@COLDmail.com wrote:
> What I hear you saying is that Bruce doesn't win *sob*
Sorry, but that's only the _bad_ news. The worse news is who, by all
the spoilers on the Net, _does_...
> but I am glad to know
> because now I won't become emotionally invested in him winning (like I
> probably would have) as for bad or worse news about Lloyd's team? Bring it
> on - I have no emotional investment in any of the other teams. If Bruce
> doesn't win, I can just enjoy the show without a care as to who wins.
You want to know?
Mike
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That's one of the two I didn't see...
The other that I _KNOW_ she missed was the spin. She badly two-footed
to two rotations and did not complete the required third.
That penalty was probably enough for elimination.
Mike
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5 of the celebs had no experience on figureskates at all. They never
competed much less had to do dance moves, etc. This was all new to
them. Jillian skated as a novice skater well into her teens. She
could do a sit spin, layback, and other things. She said once on the
morning news (Channel 11, Fox) that she is the weather girl on, that
another celeb was originally picked, but dropped out and because of
this, Jillian was the replacement. It was a lousy move on the part of
the producers, because the outcome is clear, no one has her
skill-level. The rest of them are totally dependent on partner
interaction and are learning new stuff all the time. Jillian is
coasting, IMO, she relies on her already learned skills. I can't
stand her as the weather girl either, and it makes me puke to think she
will win this thing. BARF.
Doria
Pidge
I finally found a spoiler. I was pleasantly surprised.
Shillelagh
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Thanks for the link Rexie.... I'm really enjoying his enthusiasm and Tai's
too. I adored her and Randy back in "their" day.
Shelagh
Just another gossip
Pidge <thep...@antispam.ca> wrote:
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> I finally found a spoiler. I was pleasantly surprised.
Would you post a link? I've been googling and googling and can't find a
thing!
Rex!!
two. Tai is beautiful as ever. And I'm taking into consideration that
Bruce IS 55 too. I think they are doing quite well. I was IN SHOCK
that Kurt and Debbie Gibson got booted. Her song "Only In My Dreams"
kept running thru my head. LOL.
daydr...@coldmail.com
Personally I could have been perfectly happy to see Lloyd's team go instead.
Kristy's chin needs the rest anyways.
Nancy can go anytime too - she's already dressed up like a man twice, I
really don't want to see it anymore, her face already reminds me of Mr. Ed
as it is.
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What is the spoiler on this. Is there a link?
Thanks.
Doria
BnEfan
I adore Lloyd and Isabelle...they have always been my favorite going
back to 88... last I heard she was happy being a mom of an adorable
baby girl and married to Rocky Marval and living in NJ.
I really wanted to know what Isabelle thinks of Lloyd's new partner!
I'm sure it must be fun for her to see him doing this. And Kristy is
hanging in there well- Lloyd seems pretty intense and ambitious in
practice.
And as for Nicks not liking Lloyd's programs- I'm wondering if this is
something going back to the amateur days... I thought it was pretty
funny how Lloyd doesn't comment on the judges and leaves that up to
Kristy...something Isabelle used to have to do!
It was pretty obvious how far he was going to get with the change of
outfits in the commercials but I couldn't tell who made it past next
week....I'll be watching next week! :)
Shillelagh
I'm not shocked about Kurt/Debbie. He's NOT a pairs skater - he's too short
and I'm sure not used to lifting women. They tried, but it didn't work.
Really, look at most of the male partners in pairs - usually they're tall
for a skater, and have some muscle - Lloyd, David Pelletier - Zimmerman
looks slim, but has probably done some weights, and Ina is a tiny person.
Lloyd's partner looks a bit hefty, and I felt sorry for her when she hit her
chin on the ice. Shame on him for doing that move with her.
OT - did you watch Dancing with the Stars tonight? I thoroughly enjoyed
it - Stacy's samba was incredible, and Drew was a very close second. I had
such a good time, I was laughing watching some of it. Great TV - good for
families to watch, fun, and interesting to see all the hard work put into
it. Lisa Rinna is very engaging - so enthusiastic, and wonderful to see her
hubby Harry Hamlin so supportive. This show is light years ahead of Skating
with Celebs simply because it's more accessible for people who haven't
danced. The learning curve is much less steep.
Shelagh
Pidge
>Same here... I'm normally quite good at google too but I am finding nothing.
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It took me a long time and it's hidden. Sort of. It might not be true.
But here's what I did:
go to the official forum on the Fox site
http://forums.fox.com/foxskating/start
type "winner" in the search blank
You get a message header....they deleted the message, but not the header.
daydr...@coldmail.com
sometime? hehe
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Rex!!
I haven't been following DWTS, sorry.
BnEfan
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> First of all, I love this show. I love figure skating, and
> the commercials of all the 'celebrities' falling attracted me to it.
>
> Last episode, Todd Bridges & Jenni Meno were eliminated. Too
> bad. Jenni has always been one of my favorite pairs skaters. Alas,
> even her & her husband couldn't save that team.
>
> Next up to go should be Dave Coulier's team, followed by
> Deborah Gibson's team. Just not a whole lot of skating going on.
So I finally watched my tape of the 2/6 show. I'm not surprised Dave and
Nancy were out, and I also think they should have gone before Kurt and
Deborah. If only Dave Coulier didn't look so good in a dress.... Comparing
program to program, I was a little worried about Bruce and Tai. However,
Bruce's basic skating is better than Dave's and he was skating with
stitches, so I was pretty sure they would wind up being safe. I always
wonder how much input the producers have about the judging.
The Bruce/Tai ran-out-of-ice moment was certainly something you don't see
very often. Kudos to them both for not falling down. Just before it
happened, Tai looked up and smiled at Bruce -- a lovely little partnership
moment -- and then she's running along the stage wondering where the ice
went.
I noticed the Lloyd/Kristy program had a definite "yes, we're being careful
with Kristy" feeling. Didn't even go one-handed on the Detroiter.
You could see John/Jillian had probably scaled back a bit because of
Jillian's injury, but she still did a lot. And let's face it, even
breathing can be painful with sore ribs, so she's a competitor. (According
to the interview in TV Guide, she stopped skating at 13 and she's now 39, so
she doesn't think she's all that far ahead of the other celebs. Of course,
she's clearly wrong....)