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northshoreguynz

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Aug 12, 2010, 11:10:21 PM8/12/10
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"Quade Cooper is reportedly considering a code switch to the National
Rugby League (NRL), a move that would further jeopardise the
Wallabies' bid to secure an unprecedented third World Cup title in New
Zealand next year."

Whats the buzz in Oz boys? He would be a loss with the depth you have
a 1st5.

Cheers
Stephen

Viper

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Aug 12, 2010, 11:13:00 PM8/12/10
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It's contract review time with the ARU. Threatening to consider League
offers is par for the course in that environment

If only O'Connor and Beale were chatting with RL Clubs


Viper

Michael

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Aug 12, 2010, 11:14:29 PM8/12/10
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"The 22-year-old is apparently unhappy with the amount the Australian Rugby
Union (ARU) is prepared to pay to top up his provincial contract."

Sounds like his manager is trying to drive the price up. Happens every
time, from both codes, when it's time to renegotiate their contracts.

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Stex

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Aug 12, 2010, 11:16:37 PM8/12/10
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On Aug 13, 3:13 pm, Viper <codo...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> On 13/08/2010 1:10 PM, northshoreguynz wrote:
>
> >http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=106...

>
> > "Quade Cooper is reportedly considering a code switch to the National
> > Rugby League (NRL), a move that would further jeopardise the
> > Wallabies' bid to secure an unprecedented third World Cup title in New
> > Zealand next year."
>
> > Whats the buzz in Oz boys? He would be a loss with the depth you have
> > a 1st5.
>
> > Cheers
> > Stephen
>
> It's contract review time with the ARU. Threatening to consider League
> offers is par for the course in that environment
>
> If only O'Connor and Beale were chatting with RL Clubs
>
> Viper

Yes thought the same thing and didn't think much more of it. I wonder
why the newspapers put this out as breaking news when all it is is
part of contract negotiations. Breaking news would be if he actually
signed with a League club.

Stex

Matua

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Aug 13, 2010, 12:58:04 AM8/13/10
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"northshoreguynz" <northsh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Cooper is shit anyway. The same as Genia.
The Aussies were blowing Genia's trumpet for the last year. Oh he's the best
in the world. Crap he's at best average, likewise Cooper.

Beale gets one try off a forward pass now he's suddenly the next star.
What a load of shit!!!!


Dave (SA)

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Aug 13, 2010, 1:52:35 AM8/13/10
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On Aug 13, 6:58 am, "Matua" <ma...@cOOpsisawelcher.com> wrote:
> "northshoreguynz" <northshoregu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:f72f6114-2681-4ea5...@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
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> >http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=106...

>
> > "Quade Cooper is reportedly considering a code switch to the National
> > Rugby League (NRL), a move that would further jeopardise the
> > Wallabies' bid to secure an unprecedented third World Cup title in New
> > Zealand next year."
>
> > Whats the buzz in Oz boys? He would be a loss with the depth you have
> > a 1st5.
>
> > Cheers
> > Stephen
>
> Cooper is shit anyway. The same as Genia.
> The Aussies were blowing Genia's trumpet for the last year. Oh he's the best
> in the world. Crap he's at best average, likewise Cooper.
>
> Beale gets one try off a forward pass now he's suddenly the next star.
> What a load of shit!!!!

Well I think Cooper and Genia are both damn good. And I prefer NZ to
Aus from a supporter perspective.

But I can be a snob sometimes and I just don't like Cooper the person.
I have never met him or even heard him speak much so I realise I am
being unfair.
Cooper seems better suited to Leeg.

Genia will be a class act one day.

Andrew Dunford

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Aug 13, 2010, 3:02:52 AM8/13/10
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"Michael" <quadhammerNO@SPICEDHAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "northshoreguynz" <northsh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f72f6114-2681-4ea5...@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=10665816
>>
>> "Quade Cooper is reportedly considering a code switch to the National
>> Rugby League (NRL), a move that would further jeopardise the
>> Wallabies' bid to secure an unprecedented third World Cup title in New
>> Zealand next year."
>>
>> Whats the buzz in Oz boys? He would be a loss with the depth you have
>> a 1st5.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Stephen

> "The 22-year-old is apparently unhappy with the amount the Australian
> Rugby Union (ARU) is prepared to pay to top up his provincial contract."
>
> Sounds like his manager is trying to drive the price up. Happens every
> time, from both codes, when it's time to renegotiate their contracts.

Can somebody remind me who was the last decent Union player to defect to
League, ignoring all the blokes who had come from professional League in the
first place?

Andrew

Chris Parslow

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Aug 13, 2010, 6:06:37 AM8/13/10
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> > "northshoreguynz" <northshoregu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=106...

>
> >> "Quade Cooper is reportedly considering a code switch to the National
> >> Rugby League (NRL), a move that would further jeopardise the
> >> Wallabies' bid to secure an unprecedented third World Cup title in New
> >> Zealand next year."
>
> >> Whats the buzz in Oz boys? He would be a loss with the depth you have
> >> a 1st5.
>
> >> Cheers
> >> Stephen
> > "The 22-year-old is apparently unhappy with the amount the Australian
> > Rugby Union (ARU) is prepared to pay to top up his provincial contract."
>
> > Sounds like his manager is trying to drive the price up.  Happens every
> > time, from both codes, when it's time to renegotiate their contracts.
>
> Can somebody remind me who was the last decent Union player to defect to
> League, ignoring all the blokes who had come from professional League in the
> first place?
>
> Andrew

Start looking before 1995. Obviously.

Also depends on whether you means is or *was* a decent player. Kirwan
for one was a fuckin' great player but there wasn't much juice left in
then tank when he went over...


CP

Two Dogs

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Aug 13, 2010, 7:52:05 AM8/13/10
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> >>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=106...

>
> >> "Quade Cooper is reportedly considering a code switch to the National
> >> Rugby League (NRL), a move that would further jeopardise the
> >> Wallabies' bid to secure an unprecedented third World Cup title in New
> >> Zealand next year."
>
> >> Whats the buzz in Oz boys? He would be a loss with the depth you have
> >> a 1st5.
>
> >> Cheers
> >> Stephen
> > "The 22-year-old is apparently unhappy with the amount the Australian
> > Rugby Union (ARU) is prepared to pay to top up his provincial contract."
>
> > Sounds like his manager is trying to drive the price up.  Happens every
> > time, from both codes, when it's time to renegotiate their contracts.
>
> Can somebody remind me who was the last decent Union player to defect to
> League, ignoring all the blokes who had come from professional League in the
> first place?
>
> Andrew

Don't know about the last one, but in the 70's Russell Fairfax was
probably Australia's best Union player at the time he switched to
leeg, where he had a nice career until he broke his leg.

Two Dogs

caspar milquetoast

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Aug 13, 2010, 8:35:47 AM8/13/10
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Andrew Dunford wrote:


> Can somebody remind me who was the last decent Union player to defect to
> League, ignoring all the blokes who had come from professional League in
> the first place?

You'd be looking a fair few years back now. Revenge is sweet...

Klitty

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Aug 13, 2010, 9:06:11 AM8/13/10
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caspar milquetoast <bo...@comswest.net.au> writes:

If I didn't know better I would swear you're Rick ...

DC

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Aug 13, 2010, 3:50:23 PM8/13/10
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Andrew Dunford wrote:

> Can somebody remind me who was the last decent Union player to defect to
> League, ignoring all the blokes who had come from professional League in
> the first place?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Quinnell ?

Switched at 22 years old.

DC

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Aug 13, 2010, 3:52:53 PM8/13/10
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Staying in Wales, Gareth Thomas ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/wales/7376424/Gareth-Thomas-completes-switch-from-union-to-Wales-rugby-league-side-Crusaders.html

"... Thomas, who won 100 caps for Wales and captained the Lions against
New Zealand in 2005, is the first significant convert since rugby union
went professional in 1995. ..."

Not that significant at the age of 35, IMHO.

Greig Blanchett

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Aug 13, 2010, 4:22:03 PM8/13/10
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Matthew Ridge, Inga the Winger, Marc Ellis, Daryl Halligan, John
Gallagher, Kurt Sherlock, Frano Botica, Jonathan Davies, John Timu,
Ray Price, Scott Quinnell, Brett Papworth.

Then there's all the RU trained schoolboys who switched early - the
Ricky Stuarts etc.

I think it's safe to say that far more RU players have switched and
made a success of it than have gone the other way. Off hand I can only
think of Brad Thorn, Lote Tuquiri, Wendell Sailor, Jason Robinson, Mat
Rogers, Andy Farrell, Berrick Barnes, Henry Paul, Andrew Walker and
it's debatable how many of those have really made anything other than
a financial success of it.

--
greig

caspar milquetoast

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Aug 13, 2010, 6:10:21 PM8/13/10
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You shouldn't swear Walter. It's fucking impolite.

Andrew Dunford

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Aug 13, 2010, 6:55:28 PM8/13/10
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"DC" <---@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:poh9o.6664$7E.3815@hurricane...

Which brings me back to my point. With due respect to the middle-aged
Gareth Thomas, nobody should take seriously a threat from an Australian
rugby player to defect to Leeg.

Does anybody remember the Bath v Wigan cross-code matches? They were
hilarious.

Andrew

Chris Parslow

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Aug 13, 2010, 7:55:45 PM8/13/10
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An earlier code-crosser was buried last Wednesday. Jeff McLean,
Wallaby winger & older bro. of Paul.

I can recall watching him at the North Ippy Reserve playing for
Ipswich in Bulimba Cup league games. Helluva good winger in either
code. (The break that finished his career was a shocker. He was
hobbling around the family hotel on crutches for an interminable
period - perhaps 18 months after the initial injury).


CP


CP

Matua

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Aug 14, 2010, 4:21:27 AM8/14/10
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"Dave (SA)" <david.b...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yes Dave you're entitled to your own opinion, and I'm entitled to mine.
We'll see in the future.


DC

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Aug 14, 2010, 10:25:39 AM8/14/10
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Andrew Dunford wrote:

> Can somebody remind me who was the last decent Union player to defect to
> League

Rob Louw -- moved to Wigan in 1984 at age of 29, after 19 tests for the
Springboks.

Ray Mordt -- moved to Wigan in 1986 at age of 29, after 18 tests and 12
tries for the Springboks, including 3 tries against NZ at Eden Park in 1981.

Kev or lou

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Aug 14, 2010, 4:28:35 PM8/14/10
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"Andrew Dunford" <adun...@artifax.net> wrote in message

>
> Does anybody remember the Bath v Wigan cross-code matches? They were
> hilarious.
>
> Andrew
Yeah I seem to recall the union team were thrashed at league whilst the
league boys put up a good fight at union..


Dave (SA)

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Aug 14, 2010, 5:45:50 PM8/14/10
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I suppose back then Union to League used to happen often if players
wanted to earn money.
Of course the 2 you mention also could no longer play international
rugby due to sporting sanctions. I feel quite sure that if SA had
still been playing internationals these 2 would not have made the
switch.

will s

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"northshoreguynz" <northsh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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well seeing most teams in the NRL are struggling to stay within the caps or
have no money then I doubt it

hey...maybe the Storm can find the money :-)

will s

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"Kev or lou" <lp005...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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saw a match a long time ago...cant recall the teams but the leaguees won

BUT they didnt have fully contested scrums as it was considered too
dangerous

will s

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Michael O'Connor

northshoreguynz

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> >>news:f72f6114-2681-4ea5...@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> >>>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=106...

>
> >>> "Quade Cooper is reportedly considering a code switch to the National
> >>> Rugby League (NRL), a move that would further jeopardise the
> >>> Wallabies' bid to secure an unprecedented third World Cup title in New
> >>> Zealand next year."
>
> >>> Whats the buzz in Oz boys? He would be a loss with the depth you have
> >>> a 1st5.
>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Stephen
>
> >> "The 22-year-old is apparently unhappy with the amount the Australian
> >> Rugby Union (ARU) is prepared to pay to top up his provincial contract."
>
> >> Sounds like his manager is trying to drive the price up.  Happens every
> >> time, from both codes, when it's time to renegotiate their contracts.
>
> > Can somebody remind me who was the last decent Union player to defect to
> > League, ignoring all the blokes who had come from professional League in
> > the first place?
>
> > Andrew
>
> Michael O'Connor
_________________________________

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/4027330/Eels-to-offer-record-NZ-1-07m-for-Quade-Cooper

Parramatta are prepared to make Quade Cooper the highest-paid player
in the NRL with a deal worth twice as much as the one tabled by the
Australian Rugby Union to keep the Wallabies star.

"Having missed out on Melbourne halfback Cooper Cronk after the Storm
released Greg Inglis to Brisbane last weekProxy-Connection: keep-alive
Cache-Control: max-age=0

C the Eels are willing to offer the same A$850,000 (NZ$1.07 million)
deal to Cooper if he decides to switch codes next season."

Still a negotiating ploy, or what?

Cheers
Stephen

Andrew Dunford

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Aug 15, 2010, 8:27:03 PM8/15/10
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"northshoreguynz" <northsh...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Ok, that's worth taking a bit more seriously than usual.

Seems a desperate ploy if genuine. Am I the only one who thinks Cooper is a
decent, emerging talent but not yet nearly as good as this hype? Described
as Australia's best player in that article.

Andrew

Geoff Muldoon

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Aug 15, 2010, 11:42:39 PM8/15/10
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Andrew Dunford says...

> Seems a desperate ploy if genuine. Am I the only one who thinks Cooper is a
> decent, emerging talent but not yet nearly as good as this hype? Described
> as Australia's best player in that article.

Has always reminded me of Carlos Spencer. Not a Mehrtens, but quite
talented.

GM

JohnO

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Aug 16, 2010, 12:24:05 AM8/16/10
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On Aug 16, 3:42 pm, Geoff Muldoon <geoff.muld...@trap.gmail.com>
wrote:

I tend to agree. IMHO He's better defensively than Carlos but doesn't
quite have his level of attacking genius.

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