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Simon S-B

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Jan 1, 2010, 12:16:45 PM1/1/10
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So now the comments are starting about Wasps and cancellations. I was
spitting teeth when the Bath match was cancelled last season as it was
playable, and left Bath with 8 games in 3 days at a crucial part of the
season. I honestly believe it cost us dearly. When Wasps officials have been
daft enough to say in the press how they are a club that thrives on close
together matches, it's not too shocking that people resent them somewhat,
especially after all the uncontested scrum bollocks. Perhaps they should
just get a side capable of competing without playing silly feckers all the
time?

Good on ya Quins for letting tonights game go ahead.

Pure Salt

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Jan 1, 2010, 1:06:13 PM1/1/10
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There I was thinking that you were being a model of restraint, after all,
the cancelled Sale match was scheduled back in november. After we all know
there is nothing wrong with Sales pitch, it is purely coincidental that they
will be completely redoing it in the off-season.
Lets hope there are no injuries on their frozen pitch this evening.

Simon S-B

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Jan 1, 2010, 3:06:29 PM1/1/10
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Restraint? Moi? The pitch held up fine and it was a good game in the end.
Plenty of running rugby and nobody hurting themselves on the dodgy patch.
Now are you going to try and tell me there is nothing tactical about the
Wasps cancellations, when their own management team say they like a busy
calendar?

Pure Salt

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Jan 1, 2010, 4:49:00 PM1/1/10
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Course the pitch was going to hold together if it was frozen solid. Wasps
were being asked to play on a tidal mudflat with a rising tide.
Mostly I was praising you for your restraint. I expected this anti-Wasps
tirade from you a month ago.
And yes, I would say that there was nothing tactical in Wasps objection to
playing on the said mudflat, it was the strongest Wasps team possible
against a less than full strength Sale team. And as for the manner in which
journalists turn around otherwise innocent comments, .... no comment.

dechucka

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Jan 1, 2010, 6:02:07 PM1/1/10
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> So now the comments are starting about Wasps and cancellations. I was
> spitting teeth when the Bath match was cancelled last season as it was
> playable, and left Bath with 8 games in 3 days at a crucial part of the
> season.

You are right that is a bit rough. What did they do play 3 matches on 2 days
and 2 on the other? did they keep the same team for all 8 matches and what
were the results

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Mike

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Jan 2, 2010, 2:19:04 AM1/2/10
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Two of the games where monopoly, there were 2 scrabble semis as well as
the club Guess Who final won by The Plank no less.

That left 3 rugby matches which is no problem when half the team is
coked up to the eyeballs.

Mike

Simon S-B

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Jan 2, 2010, 3:18:38 AM1/2/10
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Lol - you got me! 3 games in 8 days then ;o)

Simon S-B

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The Bath game was playable and not playing it ruined our season. If anyone
had done that to Wasps we'd never have heard the end of it. It strikes me as
funny that the only side in the land who postpones games happens to be the
one constantly claiming how they profit from a busy calendar, and it's a
club renowned for 'pushing' the letter of the law (see uncontested scrums
comment). If Wasps don't want the rest of us to resent them, then I suggest
they don't run off their mouths about how it benefits them in interviews. It
wasn't a journalist turning anything around. A straight question was asked
and an incredibly poorly thought out and arrogant answer given.

mr_tiger_fish

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Jan 2, 2010, 12:43:28 PM1/2/10
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I'm looking forward to next week at welford road. I wonder if they'll
bring some props?

Who will play 9 now simpson is out?

TJ

Simon S-B

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Looking through the side, you can see why they don't want to play in the
mud. Their front row is decimated by injury, and their backline are
lightweight nippy guys.

> Who will play 9 now simpson is out?

Sharky I suspect. You still down this way on the 4th?

Pure Salt

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Only if there is a good pizza joint near Welford Road.

dechucka

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Jan 2, 2010, 5:57:20 PM1/2/10
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That's what wrong with English Rugby starting to eat foreign muck like
pizzas sapped their strength they should be eating "good?" English tucker.

ps a kebab after a session after the training session is OK, you need some
ammunition when steering the porcelain bus

Tim Jesson

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:05:59 AM1/3/10
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nope, not this time.

overridden by the boss

TJ

Mr.Will

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:28:44 AM1/3/10
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Have always found Wasps to be quite a cynical bunch to be honest.
Nothing illegal (or proven), but very often just "plays the book" or the
system better than the rest.

Mr.Will


Simon S-B

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:40:41 AM1/3/10
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Cynical or arrogant?

Mr.Will

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:44:39 PM1/3/10
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I find it cynical just because it pushes things to its limits.
Arrogant would be thinking there is no risk to it - but wasps have seemed
(and I know its just my perception) to have not bothered to play until
certain parts in the season, have done all manner of clever little niggly
things like that re-arranged fixture and coaches even gone away to coach
wales etc. - just seems cynical.

By the way Simon Shaw is one of my favourite players etc. so I mean the way
the club conducts business rather than the players etc.

Mr.Will


Simon S-B

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:17:02 AM1/4/10
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"Pure Salt" <unli...@elsewhere.com> wrote in message

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That Samoan prop looks like he could manage a few. Thought things steadied
up a bit against Falcons when he came on.

Simon S-B

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Always loved him. Remember a drunken discussion with Sean Byrne (adopted
Wasps as his English side) in 2002 about why he'd not got more caps. Went to
see the game in Marseille with Ali Day before the RWC2003 hoping he'd put in
a mammoth performance so he couldn't be left out. He was MOTM, but was left
out anyway.

After the last RWC I was one saying we needed to look for youngsters now as
he won't make the next one. Got that one wrong! Since he's trimmed down a
bit he seems to have regained a bit of pace, and his stamina is superb. If
there's a second row playing better rugby anywhere else in the world, I've
not seen it. Wasps and England should look after him - he's so important for
2011.

Pure Salt

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Jan 5, 2010, 4:11:10 AM1/5/10
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>> Cynical or arrogant?
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> I find it cynical just because it pushes things to its limits.
> Arrogant would be thinking there is no risk to it - but wasps have seemed
> (and I know its just my perception) to have not bothered to play until
> certain parts in the season, have done all manner of clever little niggly
> things like that re-arranged fixture and coaches even gone away to coach
> wales etc. - just seems cynical.
>
Cynical perhaps, but since the Bath debacle, the PRL has arranged for pitch
covering for all Premiership grounds. Since the Sale debacle, Sale have
announced that they will redo their pitch in the off season (at considerable
cost).
This saturdays Leicester-Wasps clash is being brought forward to
mid-afternoon, with Leicester saying "No team wants to risk their players
getting badly injured" . Maybe other teams are coming round to Wasps way of
thinking on player safety. That said I think it is highly debatable as to
the merits of playing 3 games in 8 days compared to playing on a
sub-standard pitch.

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