No citing for England?
Massive Gonads
Both clearly throwing a series of punches. Only one was dealt with by a
penalty - having seen the replay both should have been yellow cards!
Meanwhile Carter gets a week for bumping a midgets chin??
Bobs
IRB = Bunch of gin drinking British and Irish old boys
They have long since stopped even pretending to be impartial. not only
that, they've even changed the laws to make their shitty teams better.
LOL
Andrew Dunford
"Bobs" <mcau...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Two things.
1. The officer who cited Carter is Australian.
2. You're still a know-nothing idiot.
Andrew
didgerman
And thirdly the ELV's were clearly a SH led reaction to England's success.
And fourth, Bobs smells.
Massive Gonads
"didgerman" <didg...@rfu.com> wrote in message
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England's succes, lol... Fuck that's funny.
Ben L
<snip>
>
> England's succes, lol... Fuck that's funny.
Well, as a teenage Kiwi fanboi, we wouldn't expect you to know what a
world cup win looks like. I'd bet you and Matty tend to pull out the
extension lead in a huff every four years and go for a spot of
therapeutic horizontal folk dancing a deux.
Massive Generalisation
"Ben L" <bjlo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Not at all, it is a lottery tournament. Bogans win lotteries, do they
deserve it? Sometimes.
On the other hand there is consistency, having the winningest record over
everyone. Being number one in the world whilst in a form slump is something
you will never understand.
You can have have your 1993; you can have your 2003; you can have your
dental plan; drizzle; mad cows; monarchy etc... and I'll have today, okies.
Mike
<Yawn> haven't we heard this all before mg? You really need to get out
more, ideally well out of range of Australia's phone networks.
Mike
p.s. I always knew you saluted a different queen.
Uncle Dave
wrote:
> "Ben L" <bjlong...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
And ever more bushfires. And droughts. And tropical storms. And
duststorms. And skin cancer. And ever rising temperatures. And
having to live in Australia. Shit, New Zealand must be bad if you
actually want to live in Australia FFS. If I were you I'd rent Mad Max
and get some tips 'cos it ain't far off now you poor sucker. Ha ha ha
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UD
lord shineything
> "Bobs" <mcaula...@gmail.com> wrote in message
But as Lord Shiney has often observed, even know-nothing idiots can
sometimes get it right. And, while Boobs's articulation of this
matter is perhaps a tad exaggerated and overblown, the general
sentiments he expresses re citing are in accordance with those of Lord
Shiney.
Mike
That doesn't really help junior's argument.
Mike
Andrew Dunford
"lord shineything" <shine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Carter's citing was bollocks, but it won't be improved by other unjustified
citings.
Andrew
JohnO
> "lord shineything" <shineyth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Payne's laying into Hore with his fists was not justification for
citing?
Andrew Dunford
"JohnO" <john...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I just think we need to look at ourselves as fans. Who cares if a few
punches are thrown? I thought it was supposed to be a game for men.
"Sir, sir, he hit me!"
Andrew
Michael
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** Especially when Woodcock got a suspended for a punch the fortnight
before; no judicial consistency is the trouble, not the acts themselves.
They either need to let a bit of fisticuffs go, ( the MUCH preferred
option ), or cite everyone who does it.
The same goes for on the field, let punches go with a warning and penalty,
or it's a straight yellow; not one each way depending on who's the ref this
week.
Stomper
> "Bobs" <mcaula...@gmail.com> wrote in message
1. Indeed he is - Scotty Nowland - ex Lindfield Rugby NSW Subbies
Karl aka Stomper
Andrew Dunford
"Michael" <quadhammerNO@SPICEDHAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I'm no expert but I don't think one throws a punch using the elbow.
If you want to make a case for inconsistency it would help if you got your
facts straight:
"In the case of Woodcock, Mr Hobbs said Woodcock accepted that he had made
contact with Mr Smith's neck and shoulder area with his elbow but denied
making contact with Mr Smith's head."
http://rugby.com.au/news/article,134752.html
Andrew
Michael
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>
>
> "Michael" <quadhammerNO@SPICEDHAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4b0f3c21$0$3253$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> "JohnO" <john...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:404115f8-0fa0-410e...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 27, 12:38 pm, "Andrew Dunford" <adunf...@artifax.net> wrote:
>>> Carter's citing was bollocks, but it won't be improved by other
>>> unjustified
>>> citings.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>
>> Payne's laying into Hore with his fists was not justification for
>> citing?
>>
>> ** Especially when Woodcock got a suspended for a punch the fortnight
>> before; no judicial consistency is the trouble, not the acts themselves.
>> They either need to let a bit of fisticuffs go, ( the MUCH preferred
>> option ), or cite everyone who does it.
>>
>> The same goes for on the field, let punches go with a warning and
>> penalty, or it's a straight yellow; not one each way depending on who's
>> the ref this week.
>
> I'm no expert but I don't think one throws a punch using the elbow.
>
> If you want to make a case for inconsistency it would help if you got your
> facts straight:
'Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even
"remotely" true.'
> "In the case of Woodcock, Mr Hobbs said Woodcock accepted that he had made
> contact with Mr Smith's neck and shoulder area with his elbow but denied
> making contact with Mr Smith's head."
>
> http://rugby.com.au/news/article,134752.html
Sounds pretty innocuous to me.
JohnO
> "JohnO" <johno1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
That's fine by me if it gets applied to a consistent standard. To me
the inconsistent standard, as seen by many, many citings, is that
Payne should be cited.
didgerman
Yeah, the vast majority of punches thrown on the field are girly ones.
It's when some guy is pinned down and somebody else is going for the
full bhoona that you need to start worrying.
I can't understand why Payne wasn't sent off.
>
> Andrew
Mike
The ref indicated that Payne was throwing his forearm into the the AB
not punching. Whilst similar offences have resulted in a card I'm not
sure any have resulted in a citing.
Mike
Neilsons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Exactly - I don't have a problem if Payne wasn't cited if it was consistent
with other incidents - the fact that the process is so inconsistent is the
big problem. The fact that the IRB do not seem to have a problem with the
process (and it isn't just at International level) shows what a useless
BOF's they are.
Cheers, aMtt
Neilsons
least he would get cited and the incident will get reviewed - but nothing! I
don't think there is any bias gainst any one team - it's just a fucked up
process!
Cheers, aMtt
Neilsons
"Mike" <mikelovescham...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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a player is cited. Do you really think that didn't deserve a citing and Dan
Carters tackle did?
Cheers, aMtt
Andrew Dunford
"Neilsons" <matt.n...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
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I should make clear here that I'm not really defending the process -
everyone knows it's inconsistent and therefore useless. I just can't be
bothered with Bobs's cry-baby routine.
Andrew
didgerman
Which really just shows how bad Kaplan is.
BrritSki
evidence of any marks on the recipient...
johnmhill
> On Nov 23, 9:00 pm, "Massive Gonads" <bhah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I can't believe Dylan Hartley and Tim Payne of England have not been cited??
> > Both clearly throwing a series of punches. Only one was dealt with by a
> > penalty - having seen the replay both should have been yellow cards!
>
> > Meanwhile Carter gets a week for bumping a midgets chin??
>
> IRB = Bunch of gin drinking British and Irish old boys
>
> They have long since stopped even pretending to be impartial. not only
> that, they've even changed the laws to make their shitty teams better.
> LOL
Interesting and inaccurate viewpoint Bobs, and wrong on both counts.
First the IRB is overwhelmingly not British and Irish.
Second the current abomination at the breakdown that has infected the
Trinations, AI and NH club game is at the behest of NZ. The
interpretation of the breakdown has reduced the number of tries scored
and increased kicking for territory - on the basis of it's safer not
to risk a penalty.
Admittedly the English GP suffers more than most because it features
promotion and relegation, thus rewarding a low risk approach, but it
was inspired by NZ, not the NH.
JH
Brent Hadley
> First the IRB is overwhelmingly not British and Irish.
> Second the current abomination at the breakdown that has infected the
> Trinations, AI and NH club game is at the behest of NZ. The
> interpretation of the breakdown has reduced the number of tries scored
> and increased kicking for territory - on the basis of it's safer not
> to risk a penalty.
Which particular abomination are we talking about here?
Cheers
Brent
johnmhill
The refereeing
JH
Brent Hadley
Wait what. You believe the current parlous state of rugby is Paddy
O'Brien's fault?
Cheers
Brent
Massive Generalisation
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Interesting, NZ; the SH and the cheerful public wanted the ELV... but the
paste voted against them and the game is going to shit. It's a KICKFEST of
unprecedented proportion.
johnmhill
Now let's see, the interpretation at the breakdown is based on IRB
instructions. Paddy is the referee development officer. The
interpretation has made taking the ball into contact and the breakdown
a risky situation, so teams kick more for position. Therefore Paddy is
to blame. I can see how you got there.
JH
johnmhill
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> "johnmhill" <j...@huntersm.com> wrote in message
The kicking is a decision taken by coaches based on a particular
interpretation of the law at the breakdown. how, exactly did you get
to what you posted ?
JH
Greig Blanchett
wrote:
[...]
>>
>He was lucky not to be carded, but they must have been crap punches - no
>evidence of any marks on the recipient...
For furious fists of flannel, you can't go past Michael Brial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOHRmmDkdBw
--
greig
Greig Blanchett
Jeesus John. Got your tinfoil hat on, just in case the NZRU tries to
TAKE YOU OUT with their secret thought commandos?
--
greig
Charles
Don't allow the truth to temper your faux outraged indignation Greig,
you innocent bugger.
Have a great weekend mate - you know I intend to!! ;o)
TFIF!
Michael
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Aussie comedy gold. He should've been cited for not landing 1 punch/slap in
10.
Massive Generalisation
"johnmhill" <jo...@huntersm.com> wrote in message
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The ELV meant short arm penalties for the breakdown. Also, I'm yet to meet
anyone who does not want the ELV... That's "exactly" how I got to what I
posted, dickhead.
didgerman
Yeah what kicked that off? And the AB is standing there unscathed, still
holding the ball. you're right, he should've joined the girlguides.
didgerman
Can't understand the 'low risk' rugby thing. Surely it's equally true to
say that if you're going to get relegated, or want to win the league
then you'll play harder to do so? What is utterly fucking ridiculous is
the playoffs at the end. Probably the main reason why the top teams play
'low risk' come to think of it.
Pffff, just been for a run, think I'm going to eat the fridge, muhahahaha