Pure gold: Aussies beat Brits in individual medal count
Federal Sports Minister Kate Ellis reckons Australia did beat arch
rivals Great Britain at the Beijing Olympics - on one indicator at
least.
Team GB may have won more more gold medals - 19 to Australia's
14 - but Australia walked away with more individual medallists, Ms
Ellis told parliament today.
"We had 136 individual medallists in the team of 435. Incidentally,
Great Britain, in order for comparison, had 74 individual medallists,"
she said during Question Time.
"(This) I think again illustrates just what a truly amazing
performance Australia put in."
The British haven't been backward in gloating about their superior
medal count.
Ms Ellis, who made headlines when she challenged British Sports
Minister Gerry Sutcliffe to a bet that Australia would do better on
the medal tally, will now have to wear a Team Great Britain t-shirt at
a major sporting event in Australia.
And British tabloid newspaper, The Sun, this week paraded billboards
around London and Sydney gloating about Britain's gold medal success
over Australia.
Emblazoned across an image of a massive red, white and blue Union flag
were the words: "Where the bloody hell were you?" and the gold medal
tallies for the sporting rivals.
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, who along with Opposition Leader Brendan
Nelson, greeted the Australian team on their return at Sydney Airport
this morning, promised Australia would win more medals at the London
games in 2012.
"Can I say this to our friends in Britain," Mr Rudd told parliament
this afternoon.
"We wish them well for the 2012 Olympics and I'm sure they're going to
do a fantastic job in hosting those Olympics.
"If I know anything about the Australian competitive spirit, and if I
know anything about the Australian Olympic Committee, our lot will be
there with spades on, ready to take it up to the Brits in the best of
Australian traditions come 2012."
He congratulated the Australian athletes on their achievements in
Beijing.
Dr Nelson highlighted the efforts of triple gold medallist Stephanie
Rice and pole vaulting Olympic champion Steve Hooker, among others.
"We were the sixth highest in terms of medal tally at 47 medals
(Australia actually won 46) but we were first when it came to the
inspiration of a nation," he told parliament.
Australia's funding for elite sport came into question after Britain's
medal-winning Olympics was linked to a major funding boost for sport.
But Ms Ellis, who was baited by opposition MPs on the sports funding
issue during question time, would only say that Australia would
"maintain" its support.
Earlier today, Mr Rudd told the Nine Network he would look at the
merits of introducing a national sports lottery to raise more money
for Australian sport.
AAP
What issue did Australians never mention?
Where does the welching on bets coming in?
<kenh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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getting desperate Kenny............... even for you
Well, well, Ms. Ellis certainly is a poor (and whiny) loser. Next time,
she should specify the conditions of her bet more carefully going in.
Meanwhile, would someone please post a picture of her in the GB shirt
she has to wear for losing the bet to GB about which country would get
the most medals?
William Clark
You assured us all that Australians weren't interested in the medal
counts and never mention it.
> Where does the welching on bets coming in?
>
You really are getting thicker by the day.
If you can't see it, I doubt that anyone could explain it to you
Higgs
When she said it in question time it certainly didn't come across like that.
If that is how you and Huggies want to interpret it so be it
>Next time,
> she should specify the conditions of her bet more carefully going in.
> Meanwhile, would someone please post a picture of her in the GB shirt
> she has to wear for losing the bet to GB about which country would get
> the most medals?
I will gladly post the picture or more likely a link to the newspaper
article where the photo appears
+You assured us all that Australians weren't interested in the medal
counts and never mention it.
really? did I? actually i didn't and your blatentlt lying again
> Where does the welching on bets coming in?
>
+You really are getting thicker by the day.
+If you can't see it, I doubt that anyone could explain it to you
the bet was that she would wear a team GB T shirt to a major sporting event
if she lost. She is going to do it. She is not welching on the bet. You
should try and comprehend the words
Kate Ellis is not only our Sports Minister, but also holds the Youth
portfolio. She is a 29 year old political science graduate, whose partner is
a trade union official. She has 2/10ths of fuck all experience at anything,
so she's perfectly qualified, as far as our esteemed, Chinese 'lap dog'
Prime Minister is concerned, to manage the destiny of our sporting
programmes.
Viper
Ah, the old 'I was misquoted' excuse, always good for a laugh.
Seeing as parliamentary stuff gets reported in Hansard, I'd suggest
that this is excuse is even lamer than usual.
Anyway, what was it that she did or didn't say that you reckon puts a
different spin on it?
In your own time
> >Next time,
> > she should specify the conditions of her bet more carefully going in.
> > Meanwhile, would someone please post a picture of her in the GB shirt
> > she has to wear for losing the bet to GB about which country would get
> > the most medals?
>
> I will gladly post the picture or more likely a link to the newspaper
> article where the photo appears-
Assuming she does it.............
Higgs
Christ, you Aussies are really insecure about this. Who gives a shit?
The Poms have three times the population. They should kick your arse
in every olympics.
+Ah, the old 'I was misquoted' excuse, always good for a laugh.
she wasn't misquoted she said it
+Seeing as parliamentary stuff gets reported in Hansard, I'd suggest
that this is excuse is even lamer than usual.
+Anyway, what was it that she did or didn't say that you reckon puts a
different spin on it?
she said it humorously
+In your own time
is 1404 OK
> >Next time,
> > she should specify the conditions of her bet more carefully going in.
> > Meanwhile, would someone please post a picture of her in the GB shirt
> > she has to wear for losing the bet to GB about which country would get
> > the most medals?
>
> I will gladly post the picture or more likely a link to the newspaper
> article where the photo appears-
+Assuming she does it.............
she made the bet so I assume she will
Bullshit, they don't have favourable weather, lack a winning culture, are
challenged for green space, have a shortage of facilities, are insular,
still embrace the system of social classes and don't have the same variety
of quality food available.....apart from that we are similar
Viper
Red, White and Blue shirts, placards down Oxford street, those Aussies
will never learn.
Why not hand over the Ashes now and save Warne from wearing a Batman
costume and dangling from the London eye?
Quiet, peasant.....
>
> Viper
>
>
> have a shortage of facilities
23 x 50m pools in the entire country of 60+ million people apparently.
With the standard 25m pools run by councils etc being closed every
week allegedly.
S'all right though... The premiershit is doing awight innit?
didds
Yes, it was comical enough watching Campo parade down Oxford Street with
that England placard in 2003.
I would have thought they would have learned the lesson, but apparently
not ;-)
William Clark
> The British haven't been backward in gloating about their superior
> medal count.
I wonder if they were backward in mentioning their financial investment
as well. I reckon if New Zealand had A$1 billion to put into their team
we could have won 19 gold medals too.
-- rick boyd
Who knows.
Australia put in more than that and couldn't manage it.
Then again, you're starting off at a fairly low level with your
typical ocker 'sportsman'
Higgs
Of course you would have Boyd
=Who knows.
=Australia put in more than that and couldn't manage it.
=Then again, you're starting off at a fairly low level with your
typical ocker 'sportsman'
The huggies and and Boyd show; proof that sour grapes make the best whines
Journalists (and I use the term extremely loosely in the case of the
Sun), doncha just love' em?
UD
The Sun doesn't have journalists, it has creative writers :-0
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
> Uncle Dave wrote:
>
> >On Aug 27, 12:34 am, kenhig...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> And British tabloid newspaper, The Sun, this week paraded billboards
> >> around London and Sydney gloating about Britain's gold medal success
> >> over Australia.
> >>
> >> Emblazoned across an image of a massive red, white and blue Union flag
> >> were the words: "Where the bloody hell were you?" and the gold medal
> >> tallies for the sporting rivals.
> >
> >Journalists (and I use the term extremely loosely in the case of the
> >Sun), doncha just love' em?
>
> The Sun doesn't have journalists, it has creative writers :-0
And big bazookas.
William Clark
Who knows.
Higgs
If your going to promote bare faced lies, you might do it with something
plausible, you knob
Viper
The Huggies-Boyd team, Boyd supplies the good looks, Huggies the brain
power.
Fuck me Ernie made me laugh, give us a hug big fella
Stex
=The Huggies-Boyd team, Boyd supplies the good looks, Huggies the brain
power.
LOL
Jesus Higgsy, you must be one sad, ugly fucking Einsteinian genius!
-- rick boyd
Sorry, all I did was take some figures from the less-than-reputable
SMH, which listed the cost per Olympic Gold medal for Australia via
direct Govt grants at $A16.7mill (no mention of how much the silver
and bronze cost), but then speculated that taking into account
indirect govt. grants, the cost could be as high at $A100mill per gold
medal. Which, by my calculations works out at $A1.4bill purely for
gold medals.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/latest-news/objectives-met-says-games-chief/2008/08/24/1219516264747.html
No doubt you’ve got some different figures (perhaps supplied by Kate
Ellis, who probably claims Australia spent 30c per gold medal ).
Would you like to share them with us?
Higgs
I think Huggies looks and your brains were being denigrated
+Sorry, all I did was take some figures from the less-than-reputable
SMH, which listed the cost per Olympic Gold medal for Australia via
direct Govt grants at $A16.7mill (no mention of how much the silver
and bronze cost), but then speculated that taking into account
indirect govt. grants, the cost could be as high at $A100mill per gold
medal. Which, by my calculations works out at $A1.4bill purely for
gold medals.
+http://www.smh.com.au/news/latest-news/objectives-met-says-games-chief/2008/08/24/1219516264747.html
+No doubt you’ve got some different figures (perhaps supplied by Kate
Ellis, who probably claims Australia spent 30c per gold medal ).
Would you like to share them with us?
bullshit you were taking a dig at Australia again "Then again, you're
starting off at a fairly low level with your
typical ocker 'sportsman' ".
The figures from the SMH are, I concede, open to debate.
If Viper has some other figures, let's look at them.
The bit about your typical ocker sportsman was simply a statement of
fact.
Truth hurts, eh?
Higgs
=The figures from the SMH are, I concede, open to debate.
If Viper has some other figures, let's look at them.
+The bit about your typical ocker sportsman was simply a statement of
fact.
care to back up these "facts"ith evidence?. OK I can tell you now you can't
because you are an anti Australian liar
=Truth hurts, eh?
The truth no. However you don't post the truth
Higgs
You know perfectly well he cant back up this with facts. Its
impossible to find the base level of Aussie sportsmen cause they're
all on drugs.
Stex
and Kips and Huggies proved that by showing probenecid had no medical use.
NOT
I hear its quite good for covering up drugs as well, but not as good
as the QRU
Stex
sorry
:-)
+I hear its quite good for covering up drugs as well, but not as good
as the QRU
really is that what NZ players used it for? QRU players use it to enhance
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Oh look, it's the Morrissey-Ernest team; Morrissey supplies the brain power,
Ernest supplies the sheep.
Andrew
and all the NZ posters on this ng are happy. Hopefully he supplies ewes and
rams depending if the NZers are queer or not
> I think
Don't think, Chucky. You'll only hurt yourself.
-- rick boyd
your obviously leading a painless existence
"You're", Chucky. I told you not to think.
-- rick boyd
now that was painless for you wasn't it Boyd. So upset by the Olympics that
you become a spelling and grammar Nazi
Don't thank me. Think of it as a gradual learning process. In another
ten years I'll help you tie your shoelaces.
-- rick boyd
I didn't
> Think of it as a gradual learning process. In another ten years I'll help
> you tie your shoelaces.
take you that long to read this site will it
http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/tying.htm
Truth hurts, eh?
Higgs
Kenny, anyone who had spent time in Manchester, Leeds or Liverpool would
think our 'ockers' civilised types..........stop trolling
The SMH is a leftist, feminist, PC, socialist bugle....they'll push an anti
sport angle without much provocation..........
If your going to post bullshit you might at least try and shroud it with
some believable numbers. You quote '$16.7mill per gold medal' and then apply
an 'indirect gov't grants' formula to then come up with $100mill per
gold....excellent work, really like to know how you fashioned that balance
of $83mill per gold.
Do yourself a favour, have a browse through this :-
http://corporate.olympics.com.au/files/99/2007_AOC_annualreport_webversionFINAL2.pdf
$42mill total is a long way off your rubbery numbers. By all means I
acknowledge there have been corporate contributions, understanding employers
and a host of breakfast cereal companies. $1bill ? I think not.
By the by I think the Brits did really well and I congratulate themn for an
outstanding effort. Major difference appears to be your cyclists had better
chemists than our chemists this time around.
You shoudn't get too cocky though, one swallow a summer does not make......
Viper
So you're saying the SMH is an unreliable souce?
I thought you said I was lying?
> If your going to post bullshit you might at least try and shroud it with
> some believable numbers. You quote '$16.7mill per gold medal' and then apply
> an 'indirect gov't grants' formula to then come up with $100mill per
> gold....excellent work, really like to know how you fashioned that balance
> of $83mill per gold.
Simple, really.
I'm surprised you didn't spot it yourself, given that you've quoted
the first part already:
"Reports yesterday suggest the real cost of a gold medal through
direct federal grants could be up to $16.7 million.
The sports academic James Connor said even that figure may be an
underestimate once other government funding is added and the real
price could be "up to $100 million" ."
So, if it is $100mill, you times it by the number of golds won and
(here's the hard bit) $100mill x 14 = $1.4bill
>
> Do yourself a favour, have a browse through this :-
>
> http://corporate.olympics.com.au/files/99/2007_AOC_annualreport_webve...
>
> $42mill total is a long way off your rubbery numbers. By all means I
> acknowledge there have been corporate contributions, understanding employers
> and a host of breakfast cereal companies. $1bill ? I think not.
>
Hmmm, interesting report, though hardly unbiased. This John Coates
guy. Is he the same John Coates who made all the disparaging remarks
about GB that kicked all the fuss off?
But I'm wondering how they've managed to work out the cost per gold
medal in 2008 from a report published in 2007.
Looks to me more like prediction than fact.
> By the by I think the Brits did really well and I congratulate themn for an
> outstanding effort. Major difference appears to be your cyclists had better
> chemists than our chemists this time around.
>
Yeah, but I assume your cycling chemists will simply talk more closely
with your swimming chemists between now and 2012.
> You shoudn't get too cocky though, one swallow a summer does not make......
>
Indeed it doesn't.
Given that team GB is 3rd on the all-time list of medal winners for
the summer Olympics, I think we can safely assume that the Australian
swallow has been and gone.
Perhaps it's gone to Georgia.
Higgs
They were certainly better at coming in as runners up.
Mike
Those 136 individual medallists no doubt include all members of medal
winning teams. I think the Aussies sent more teams to the games than
the Poms did.
<snip>
============================
qualified more teams probably
Yes, God bless women's basketball.
Get that GB shirt on, Sheila!
William Clark
Higgs
I've never known a bloke so deprived of at least one solid
argument...........
Youn have nothing Kenny, not even a half decent throw away
line......'ockers', 'truth hurts', 'John Coates said'........
You've been presented with facts, about 30 pages of them and you still duck
and weave with nonsense and fantasy......talk about a lightweight....even
Boyd has his vaudeville act, you've got nothing but a soft cock I
expect........
Viper
You're right, you don't have one.
But you came back for more!
Amazing stuff.....
> Youn have nothing Kenny, not even a half decent throw away
> line......'ockers', 'truth hurts', 'John Coates said'........
>
I gave you some facts and figures.
You didn't disprove them, you simply refused to accept them.
> You've been presented with facts, about 30 pages of them and you still duck
> and weave with nonsense and fantasy......talk about a lightweight....even
> Boyd has his vaudeville act, you've got nothing but a soft cock I
> expect........
>
You provided no facts, you simply provided a link.
A link to a document from the body responsible for spending
Australia's Olympic dollars.
That they put forward the idea that they spend the taxpayers money
wisely and thriftily and give great value for money is really no
surprise.
Hey, Olympic medals cost the Australian taxpayer very little, about 8c
a day!
Think how many more medals Australia would win if you gave us even
more money!
They are hardly in the business of telling us the true cost of Olympic
medals, and it's quite embarrasing when some paper speculates that the
true cost, taking into account indirect expenditure, may totally dwarf
their estimates.
Estimates, by the way, that were provided in 2007, at least a year
before the Beijing Games were held.
You always get suckers taken in by that sort of spin.
No surprises that you were one of them
Higgs
'Mr superficial' trots out another line.....you could get a job as window
dressing spiv....
> Youn have nothing Kenny, not even a half decent throw away
> line......'ockers', 'truth hurts', 'John Coates said'........
>
I gave you some facts and figures.
You didn't disprove them, you simply refused to accept them.
You gave nothing except an off handed view of an SMH article and even then
you couldn't manage to multiply 16 by 14.....don't flatter yourself by
inferring you've supported any sort of feasible position.........
> You've been presented with facts, about 30 pages of them and you still
> duck
> and weave with nonsense and fantasy......talk about a lightweight....even
> Boyd has his vaudeville act, you've got nothing but a soft cock I
> expect........
>
You provided no facts, you simply provided a link.
None of which you absorbed past the cover page, but that's not an
overwhelming surprise
A link to a document from the body responsible for spending
Australia's Olympic dollars.
That they put forward the idea that they spend the taxpayers money
wisely and thriftily and give great value for money is really no
surprise.
Hey, Olympic medals cost the Australian taxpayer very little, about 8c
a day!
Think how many more medals Australia would win if you gave us even
more money!
They are hardly in the business of telling us the true cost of Olympic
medals, and it's quite embarrasing when some paper speculates that the
true cost, taking into account indirect expenditure, may totally dwarf
their estimates.
Grade 2 speculation....again nothing even approaching facts, just fanciful
bullshit
Estimates, by the way, that were provided in 2007, at least a year
before the Beijing Games were held.
You always get suckers taken in by that sort of spin.
No surprises that you were one of them
Higgs
Your are the lightweight of the year Kenny.............should go back to
masturbating over Virginia Wade's Wimbldon victory in 77'......most of the
nation does
Viper
I notice you've dropped the A.T. from your sig William old fruit. Does
dementure make it difficult to remember all the letters ?
Viper
Doubtful.
You've got that line of work all sewn up
> > Youn have nothing Kenny, not even a half decent throw away
> > line......'ockers', 'truth hurts', 'John Coates said'........
>
> I gave you some facts and figures.
> You didn't disprove them, you simply refused to accept them.
>
> You gave nothing except an off handed view of an SMH article and even then
> you couldn't manage to multiply 16 by 14.....don't flatter yourself by
> inferring you've supported any sort of feasible position.........
>
Not really.
It's fairly common knowledge that Australia spends up big on the
Olympics.
You found a link to a source that was saying that Australia doesn't
actually spend as much as everyone thinks, so you seized it like an
Australian cyclist with a syringe.
> > You've been presented with facts, about 30 pages of them and you still
> > duck
> > and weave with nonsense and fantasy......talk about a lightweight....even
> > Boyd has his vaudeville act, you've got nothing but a soft cock I
> > expect........
>
> You provided no facts, you simply provided a link.
>
> None of which you absorbed past the cover page, but that's not an
> overwhelming surprise
>
It appears you didn't even follow the link
> A link to a document from the body responsible for spending
> Australia's Olympic dollars.
> That they put forward the idea that they spend the taxpayers money
> wisely and thriftily and give great value for money is really no
> surprise.
> Hey, Olympic medals cost the Australian taxpayer very little, about 8c
> a day!
> Think how many more medals Australia would win if you gave us even
> more money!
> They are hardly in the business of telling us the true cost of Olympic
> medals, and it's quite embarrasing when some paper speculates that the
> true cost, taking into account indirect expenditure, may totally dwarf
> their estimates.
>
> Grade 2 speculation....again nothing even approaching facts, just fanciful
> bullshit
>
And the facts you presented are?
Oh, look.
None whatsoever.
> Estimates, by the way, that were provided in 2007, at least a year
> before the Beijing Games were held.
> You always get suckers taken in by that sort of spin.
> No surprises that you were one of them
>
> Higgs
>
> Your are the lightweight of the year Kenny.............should go back to
> masturbating over Virginia Wade's Wimbldon victory in 77'......most of the
> nation does
>
I may be lightweight, but I'm more than a match for you.
You shouldn't really be allowed out without your carer, one day
someone will really upset you
Higgs
No, it's just that you antipodeans have enough trouble dealing with just
one name, and I don't want to confuse you.
William Clark
Dear, dear, the great sporting nation really is a little touchy at being
outdone by the podgy ol' Brits, with their lousy weather.
Comical, really.
Like your rugby team today.
William Clark
Dementure. Chortle. How self-depreciating, Alvey's Bitch.
-- rick boyd
Oh look Boyd's out to play on a Monday morning !! The really admirable thing
about you Paddy, is that despite posting for a living, you still contribute
to the rent and groceries with funds from your vaudeville act.......
Viper
England beat Australia at rugby or SA has lousy weather?
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<snip>
> Comical, really.
>
> Like your rugby team today.
You found them funny? I thought a gross indecency was committed, myself.
Andrew
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I would chortle, only I haven't got my dementures in.
Andrew
but you post very well in dementia mode without them
> Oh look Boyd's out to play on a Monday morning !! The really admirable thing
> about you Paddy, is that despite posting for a living, you still contribute
> to the rent and groceries with funds from your vaudeville act.......
Well, you will insist on being my ventriloquist's dummy.
-- rick boyd
The reason we can't see your lips move during your alleged
ventriloquism performances, is because you're always talking out of
your voluminous arse!
Ugh! It's Monday! ;o(
-- rick boyd
Sad Paddy, but the truth is there's very little left in that worn, old,
faded grab bag of epithets........perhaps you could write some fillers for
Australian Retirement Magazine ?
Viper
True, I was just being kind.
William Clark
So now you see why the "A. T." is redundant to the less than literate.
Even with your dentias in.
William Clark
How about that, Viper.
Even Chukky has a better handle on the English Language than you.
ROTFL
Higgs
How about that, Viper.
ROTFL
Higgs
'I might be a lightweight, but I'm more than a match for you, sob, sniff,
poor Kenny'...........then he peers from behind the petticoats of Boyd and
the off - site Pom.....you are a blouse Ken
Viper
And you're a try-hard
Higgs
And you're a try-hard\\-----------------------
----------------
and your an ani Ausstralian troll yout pov is
Watch out Chuck, Kenny the 'hard man' and William 'tweed breeches' are
certified Greater Oxford cops..........credentials are good all over the
Empire apparently
Viper
Not really, in fact I'm not overly fussed about people who make the
odd mistake (I usually only comment when twerps like Alvey, who makes
enough himself, attempts to ridicule someone else who makes one).
Chuckwit makes so many spelling and grammar howlers that it's not
really worthy of a reply, except when they are funny, but what is
funny is when a softcock like you makes one and even Chukky picks up
on it.
Higgs
Higgs===================================
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Higgs
Kenny, there's no air left in the balloon mate, the ref's called the fight
off, it was a TKO eight posts ago. The 'war of attrition' routine was put in
the cupboard after your mate Haig's less than spectacular application of
it........
Viper