Gay Bok - what next ?
Len
In "Die Burger" (Afrikaans newspaper) of today (Saturday,16 August) the
following article appeared. Please forgive me if I screw up the spelling
of some words or if my english sounds bad due to direct translation from
Afrikaans.
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"HOMSEXUAL BOK AFRAID FOR SPORTING CAREER
Johannesburg - The South African Rugby Football Union doesn't
discriminate against anyone - not because of their race, religion or
sexual preferences.
That was the reaction of Rian Oberholzer, executive officer of SARVU,
when it was
revealed that a "well known Bok, whose name regularly appears in the
headlines of newspapers" is homosexual.
The interview with the player, whose name isn't mentioned, appears in
the latest
Gay SA, a homosexual magazine. According to the magazine the player is
always in the
news and girls are mad about him because he is so handsome.
Oberholzer says he knows about the interview with the player but that he
doesn't
know who it is. "It doesn't matter what his sexual preferences are. If
he is homosexual he can still play for the Springboks".
COACH DOES NOT KNOW
Carel du Plesis, coach of the Springboks, says he doesn't know of any
gay player.
"I can't say anything at this stage. I will comment when I know who
the player
are."
In the article the player says (he lives in the Rosebank area in
Johannesburg in a
house behind high walls) that he build the walls not so much for
security reasons, but
to a little privacy. "I would like to have a permanent relationship
with a man I
love and respect, but it is difficult. Unlike the entertainmant
industry where
men can afford to be open about their sexuality, the rugby community
is conservative
and it will mean the end of my career if my secret gets out", the
player stated.
FREQUENTLY AT MEETING PLACES
He says he frequently visits places where homosexual men meet, but isn't
recognised
often, "probably because they don't watch rugby" he said.
"Those who do recognise me can not believe that a professional rugby
player can be gay.
They usually have a lot of questions about other well known players and
what goes on
in the locker after a game".
According to him he were intimate with a upcoming Springbok in the
showers because
the guy "watched me after games".
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And that my lovebirds, is the story. As a "New South African" I don't
mind the guy
playing for the Boks, but what do you NZ's and Aussies think about it.
The name of the player you ask me? My guess is Hennie le Roux.
Chris
Len wrote:
>
> In "Die Burger" (Afrikaans newspaper) of today (Saturday,16 August) the
> following article appeared. Please forgive me if I screw up the spelling
> of some words or if my english sounds bad due to direct translation from
> Afrikaans.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "HOMSEXUAL BOK AFRAID FOR SPORTING CAREER
>
> Johannesburg - The South African Rugby Football Union doesn't
> discriminate against anyone - not because of their race, religion or
> sexual preferences.
> That was the reaction of Rian Oberholzer, executive officer of SARVU,
> when it was
> revealed that a "well known Bok, whose name regularly appears in the
> headlines of newspapers" is homosexual.
I wonder if that is true. He would open Sarfu up for a court case if he
said anything
else and the player gets dropped later. It would be unfair
discrimination according to South African law.
> snip snip snip
> According to him he were intimate with a upcoming Springbok in the
> showers because the guy "watched me after games".
The thought of two rugby players doing it in the shower after a match
gives me the creeps.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> And that my lovebirds, is the story. As a "New South African" I don't
> mind the guy playing for the Boks, but what do you NZ's and Aussies think about it.
> The name of the player you ask me? My guess is Hennie le Roux.
I think the usual embrace after a try will be something of the past.
The big test however, will be "THE SHOWERS".
Ps. I hope it's not Hennie.
Koos
On Sat, 16 Aug 1997 20:06:53 +0200, Chris <Ch...@nospam.com> wrote:
<<>Ps. I hope it's not Hennie.>>
If the story is true and if it is him - who cares.
He played great rugby, won the world cup and was one of probably 45
top achievers of his lifetime.
He is getting on and a bit rusted now, but fuckit he was a great
center.
He should have been used as no 10 by the Boks as well, but the
selectors were too stupid.
Anyway, other people's sex lives are their fun and joy.
In the meantime I will enjoy watching rugby and keep on working on my
sex life.
Deon Naicker
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Chris (Ch...@nospam.com) wrote:
: Ps. I hope it's not Hennie.
Hmm, interesting ... just hope it is'nt ol Kobus :-)
Deon
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J
> snip snip snip
>
> > According to him he were intimate with a upcoming Springbok in the
> > showers because the guy "watched me after games".
>
> The thought of two rugby players doing it in the shower after a match
> gives me the creeps.
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Now that's what I call a broederbond!
>
>
Angus
J wrote:
> Now that's what I call a broederbond!
>
Are you calling my boyfriend a puff?
> >
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out the one, the only, The Try Generator, courtesy of the Ole Boys.
You'll like it, not a lot , but you'll like it.
mine's a guiness.
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Janco Wolmarans
Leanne Nel <nel...@mtn.co.za> wrote in article
<01bcad5b$2be1aa90$bfc423c4@dt2341>...
>
>
> Len <L...@nomail.please.za> wrote in article
> <33F655...@nomail.please.za>...
> > In "Die Burger" (Afrikaans newspaper) of today (Saturday,16 August) the
> > following article appeared. Please forgive me if I screw up the
spelling
> > of some words or if my english sounds bad due to direct translation
from
> > Afrikaans.
> >
> >
>
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> > "HOMSEXUAL BOK AFRAID FOR SPORTING CAREER
> >
> >
> > The name of the player you ask me? My guess is Hennie le Roux.
> >
>
> I Think you've got the wrong guy!!!!!!!!!!
>
Why?
Leanne Nel
Woodmead
Len wrote:
> In "Die Burger" (Afrikaans newspaper) of today (Saturday,16 August)
> the
> following article appeared. Please forgive me if I screw up the
> spelling
> of some words or if my english sounds bad due to direct translation
> from
> Afrikaans.
>
> ----------
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "HOMSEXUAL BOK AFRAID FOR SPORTING CAREER
>
> Johannesburg - The South African Rugby Football Union doesn't
> discriminate against anyone - not because of their race, religion or
>
> sexual preferences.
> That was the reaction of Rian Oberholzer, executive officer of SARVU,
> when it was
> revealed that a "well known Bok, whose name regularly appears in the
>
> headlines of newspapers" is homosexual.
> According to him he were intimate with a upcoming Springbok in the
> showers because
> the guy "watched me after games".
>
> ----------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> And that my lovebirds, is the story. As a "New South African" I don't
> mind the guy
> playing for the Boks, but what do you NZ's and Aussies think about
> it.
>
Colin Francis
fe...@is.co.za (Koos) wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:13:13 GMT, cfra...@ihug.co.nz (Colin Francis)
>wrote:
>
>Which SA'ns are you referring to?
>Nelson Mandela?
>D.F. Malan?
>Robert Sobukwe?
>Clive Derby-Lewis?
Karl Marsten !!
Disciminately Snipped
>
>And finally: Are you stupid or were you drunk when you typed your
>message?
Look into your self !
>
>
>
What a mouthful Koos..
I have just been watching your national team over the last few weeks.
i was wondering if there are any players from other ethnic groups that
are of a standard which would see them in the SA team (that standard
would not have to be that high actually (;-})
Seriously i think that SA rugby needs stability in Selecting and
administratiion..
But boy, did they go well against Aussie.. I can sense that in spite
of the administration and selectorial policies the SA rugby may be on
the rise...
For me there is nothing on this earth like the sight of the All Blacks
and the SA rugby teams running onto the field.. (apart from my wife
who is looking over my shoulder as I type this)
===== I don't know how it happened, but it seems there is
an applet in my toaster and some guy in Norway keeps
burning my bloody toast. =======
peter erasmus
Koos <fe...@is.co.za> wrote in article
<3403e607...@firewall.naspers.co.za>...
> On Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:13:13 GMT, cfra...@ihug.co.nz (Colin Francis)
> wrote:
>
> Koos -both - probably smoked up as well
>
>
>
Custom Service Systems
In article <3403e607...@firewall.naspers.co.za>,
fe...@is.co.za (Koos) wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:13:13 GMT, cfra...@ihug.co.nz (Colin Francis)
>wrote:
>
>
>Which SA'ns are you referring to?
>Nelson Mandela?
>D.F. Malan?
>Robert Sobukwe?
>Clive Derby-Lewis?
>
>Are you refering to people who believe it is OK?
>Or people who believe it is not?
>
>Discrimination against whom?
>Black people?
>White people?
>Women?
>
>What do you know about our constitution?
>Anything at all?
>
>And finally: Are you stupid or were you drunk when you typed your
>message?
>
>
>
>
Why do you always sound like such a defensive pussy in this news group? SA
will always be known for its aparthied past, there is nothing you can do to
change that. Get over it, and remember rugby will always be simply....a game.
Ken
Colin Francis
spam...@xxxxxx.com (Brian) wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:13:13 GMT, cfra...@ihug.co.nz (Colin Francis)
>> wrote:
>>
>> <<>Since when did SA worry about discrimination??>>>
>
>In article <3403e607...@firewall.naspers.co.za>, fe...@is.co.za
>says...
>> Which SA'ns are you referring to?
>> Nelson Mandela?
>> D.F. Malan?
>> Robert Sobukwe?
>> Clive Derby-Lewis?
>>
>> What discrimination are you reffering to?
>> Are you refering to people who believe it is OK?
>> Or people who believe it is not?
>>
>> Discrimination against whom?
>> Black people?
>> White people?
>> Women?
>>
>> What do you know about our constitution?
>> Anything at all?
>>
>> And finally: Are you stupid or were you drunk when you typed your
>> message?
>>
>
>What do you expect from a New Zealander? These guys lap up every bit of
>bullshit they see in the news. You'd realize why they're so ignorant if
>you saw the news here, the occasional reports on SA are usually about the
>high crime rate, as a result of the scars of Apartheid, of course. But I
>guess the media everywhere is biased.
>
>The South Africans handed over the country to the majority, and still
>they hypocritically claim South Africans are discriminators. The Maori
>people here, who actually arrived before the whites, should be in power,
>but obviously it's different if you don't breed exponentially.
>As a nation they despise South Africans and take any opportunity to
>insult them, I have no doubt it would the same had Apartheid never
>existed. I think it's because they're jealous of SA, an obviously
>superior country, this also would explain their huge desire to beat SA in
>rugby, they have to be better at one thing.
>
>The Aussies are even bigger hypocrites, they were one of the most
>outspoken countries against SA during the Apartheid years when at the
>same time the Australian government was taking Aborigine babies from
>their parents and not long before were hunting Aborigines like animals.
>
>I'm getting a bit off topic, but comments like that really get me going.
Good
Darryl Burnett
In article <MPG.e71aa0c3...@news.ihug.co.nz>, Brian
<spam...@xxxxxx.com> writes
>What do you expect from a New Zealander? These guys lap up every bit of
>bullshit they see in the news. You'd realize why they're so ignorant if
>you saw the news here, the occasional reports on SA are usually about the
>high crime rate, as a result of the scars of Apartheid, of course. But I
>guess the media everywhere is biased.
>
>The South Africans handed over the country to the majority, and still
>they hypocritically claim South Africans are discriminators. The Maori
>people here, who actually arrived before the whites, should be in power,
>but obviously it's different if you don't breed exponentially.
>As a nation they despise South Africans and take any opportunity to
>insult them, I have no doubt it would the same had Apartheid never
>existed. I think it's because they're jealous of SA, an obviously
>superior country, this also would explain their huge desire to beat SA in
>rugby, they have to be better at one thing.
>
>The Aussies are even bigger hypocrites, they were one of the most
>outspoken countries against SA during the Apartheid years when at the
>same time the Australian government was taking Aborigine babies from
>their parents and not long before were hunting Aborigines like animals.
>
>I'm getting a bit off topic, but comments like that really get me going.
Yes you are way off the topic and unfortunately have lapsed into making
wild accusations and generalisations about other cultures just as the
"brainless kiwi" did. I agree he was talking utter crap but remember
this is the opinion of one man, and you should have noted not many other
(if any) people agreed with it or even bothered to reply.
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Darryl Burnett
Brian
> On Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:13:13 GMT, cfra...@ihug.co.nz (Colin Francis)
> wrote:
>
> <<>Since when did SA worry about discrimination??>>>
In article <3403e607...@firewall.naspers.co.za>, fe...@is.co.za
says...
> Which SA'ns are you referring to?
> Nelson Mandela?
> D.F. Malan?
> Robert Sobukwe?
> Clive Derby-Lewis?
>
> What discrimination are you reffering to?
> Are you refering to people who believe it is OK?
> Or people who believe it is not?
>
> Discrimination against whom?
> Black people?
> White people?
> Women?
>
> What do you know about our constitution?
> Anything at all?
>
> And finally: Are you stupid or were you drunk when you typed your
> message?
>
What do you expect from a New Zealander? These guys lap up every bit of
Jelly
In article <340444f3...@newsch.es.co.nz>, Colin Francis
<cfra...@ihug.co.nz> writes
>For me there is nothing on this earth like the sight of the All Blacks
>and the SA rugby teams running onto the field.. (apart from my wife
>who is looking over my shoulder as I type this)
So which member(s) of the Boks/All Blacks does your wife look
like?
:-)
Jelly.
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