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David Williams

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Jul 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/24/97
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Phil Sigsworth tendered his resignation to the Sharks
this morning, and Tim Wilby accepted it. He is now
off to South Sydney as assistant Coach. There is plenty
of talk now about Steve Crooks taking the coaching job.

The Sharks have also released Australians Glen Liddiard
and Peter Wheeler on free transfers to York Wasps, with
Rob Danby, Paul Darley, Paul Crook and Gareth Stephens
joining them on loan too.

Our local paper is linking Sharks with Aussie Ian Roberts.

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- mailto:dwil...@humber.ac.uk (work)
- http://www.humber.ac.uk/su/main/home.htm

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thread, and we want to know the whole cloth." - Gustav Flaubert

WiganRLfan

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Jul 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/24/97
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On Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:20:53 -0700, David Williams <da...@union.karoo.co.uk>
wrote:


>Our local paper is linking Sharks with Aussie Ian Roberts.

Am I right in thinking this chap is the one and only "Gay" RL player?

If so the mind boggles at the reception he would get from the forward thinking
inhabitants for the 3d stand :-).

Dave


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Wigan RLFC - Simply the best -
but trying hard to become the worst :-(

Paul McNally

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Jul 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/24/97
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On Thu, 24 Jul 1997 16:06:03 GMT, wigan...@oddies.clara.net
(WiganRLfan) wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:20:53 -0700, David Williams <da...@union.karoo.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Our local paper is linking Sharks with Aussie Ian Roberts.
>
>Am I right in thinking this chap is the one and only "Gay" RL player?
>
>If so the mind boggles at the reception he would get from the forward thinking
>inhabitants for the 3d stand :-).
>
>Dave
>

Didn't he also cripple himself at Oldham last week??

Paul

Pete Kolton

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Jul 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/24/97
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WiganRLfan <wigan...@oddies.clara.net> wrote in article
<33d865f7...@news.clara.net>...

> Am I right in thinking this chap is the one and only "Gay" RL player?
>
> If so the mind boggles at the reception he would get from the forward
thinking
> inhabitants for the 3d stand :-).

Why? They don't have a problem with Tim Wilby as their Chairman.

Steve Morris

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Jul 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/24/97
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In article <33d865f7...@news.clara.net>, WiganRLfan
<wigan...@oddies.clara.net> writes

>On Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:20:53 -0700, David Williams <da...@union.karoo.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Our local paper is linking Sharks with Aussie Ian Roberts.
>
>Am I right in thinking this chap is the one and only "Gay" RL player?

Not the only one!!!

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Steve Morris

UnswortG

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Jul 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/25/97
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>>>Our local paper is linking Sharks with Aussie Ian Roberts.
>>
>>Am I right in thinking this chap is the one and only "Gay" RL player?
>>
>>If so the mind boggles at the reception he would get from the forward
>thinking
>>inhabitants for the 3d stand :-).
>>
>>Dave
>>

Question: is Tim Wilby married?


Ged Unsworth
Cincinnati, Ohio.


David Wood

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Jul 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/25/97
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WiganRLfan <wigan...@oddies.clara.net> wrote in article
<33d865f7...@news.clara.net>...
> On Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:20:53 -0700, David Williams
<da...@union.karoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> >Our local paper is linking Sharks with Aussie Ian Roberts.
>
> Am I right in thinking this chap is the one and only "Gay" RL player?
>
> If so the mind boggles at the reception he would get from the forward
thinking
> inhabitants for the 3d stand :-).
>
> Dave
>
Yes - Look what happened to a certain Paul Eastwood when he 'came out',
maybe things are about to change?? Perhaps Hull will appoint Joe Lydon as
Football Manager to complement the stance as an 'Equal Opportunities' Super
League club??
>
>
>

David Wood

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Jul 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/25/97
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David Williams <da...@union.karoo.co.uk> wrote in article
<33D922...@union.karoo.co.uk>...
> WiganRLfan <wigan...@oddies.clara.net> wrote:
>
> I doubt very much whether you are right in thinking Roberts
> is the only gay RL player. Wilby reckons there were three gay
> players at Hull FC when he played there. However, he might have
> said three just to get people wondering who the 'third man' might
> have been. As for the reception of the Threepenny stand, I reckon
> Roberts playing ability would earn him instant respect from most.
> Even the worst seem able to supress their racist tendencies for
> our Black players. If he got a load of grief he may respond as
> Tim Wilby did on Sunday and smack the offensive person before having
> him thrown out of the ground. Is this a first for an RL chairman?

>
> David Wood then wrote:
>
> > Yes - Look what happened to a certain Paul Eastwood when he 'came out',
> > maybe things are about to change?? Perhaps Hull will appoint Joe Lydon
as
> > Football Manager to complement the stance as an 'Equal Opportunities'
Super
> > League club??

David Williams then wrote:
>
> I'm not sure Paul Eastwood ever 'came out' as you put it. However,
> he did suffer 'Rent Boy' chants from the 'opposition' every time he
> played.

David Wood then wrote :

I never knew about this until recently & often wondered what happened to
him, however, I rated him as a player and he seemed to come across well. As
for his sexual tendacies, personally I couldn't give a toss - it has no
bearing on what a persons abilites are... DOES IT.

<< So, the homophobia seems to be fairly widespread, but you
will find Hull Sharks at the forefront of campaigns to fight racism,
etc. >>

Bollocks

Last time we came to the Boulevard we took an Indian lad with us, this
turned out to be a big mistake. No matter where we stood we seemed to find
mellam & threepenorth types hurling racial abuse about one inch from our
eardrums. We actually changed location about four times, the poor lad
didn't know where to put himself and we were all taken back by the
vociferous hatred he endured.

<<What will you be doing? Sniggering behind the posts perhaps?>>

Well David, seeing as you don't even know me, perhaps its best not to
suggest what I will be doing and wait until I tell you. You appear to be an
exception to other Hull based NG contributors seeing as you can spell,
punctuate and hold a conversation.

Nice to meet you............


David Williams

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Jul 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/25/97
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WiganRLfan <wigan...@oddies.clara.net> wrote:

> > >Our local paper is linking Sharks with Aussie Ian Roberts.
> >
> > Am I right in thinking this chap is the one and only "Gay" RL player?
> >
> > If so the mind boggles at the reception he would get from the
> > forward thinking inhabitants for the 3d stand :-).

I doubt very much whether you are right in thinking Roberts


is the only gay RL player. Wilby reckons there were three gay
players at Hull FC when he played there. However, he might have
said three just to get people wondering who the 'third man' might
have been. As for the reception of the Threepenny stand, I reckon
Roberts playing ability would earn him instant respect from most.
Even the worst seem able to supress their racist tendencies for
our Black players. If he got a load of grief he may respond as
Tim Wilby did on Sunday and smack the offensive person before having
him thrown out of the ground. Is this a first for an RL chairman?

David Wood then wrote:

> Yes - Look what happened to a certain Paul Eastwood when he 'came out',
> maybe things are about to change?? Perhaps Hull will appoint Joe Lydon as
> Football Manager to complement the stance as an 'Equal Opportunities' Super
> League club??

I'm not sure Paul Eastwood ever 'came out' as you put it. However,


he did suffer 'Rent Boy' chants from the 'opposition' every time he

played. So, the homophobia seems to be fairly widespread, but you

will find Hull Sharks at the forefront of campaigns to fight racism,

etc. What will you be doing? Sniggering behind the posts perhaps?

Antonioni PJ

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Jul 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/25/97
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A completely "out n'proud faggot" friend of mine once put it succinctly.
There is no-one on earth harder than a rent boy, so why bother sledging?
It would be like calling Ice Cube a "nigga". I also very much doubt
whether even the 3d stand could bitch like a drag queen.
It's not going to help the fight against relegation, you know.

A far as Roberts goes, I don't even believe Hull could afford his Dolce &
Gabbana shoelaces.

P.J.

Greg Ward

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Jul 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/27/97
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In article <33d865f7...@news.clara.net>, WiganRLfan
<wigan...@oddies.clara.net> writes
>On Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:20:53 -0700, David Williams <da...@union.karoo.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Our local paper is linking Sharks with Aussie Ian Roberts.
>
>Am I right in thinking this chap is the one and only "Gay" RL player?
>
>If so the mind boggles at the reception he would get from the forward thinking
>inhabitants for the 3d stand :-).
>
>Dave
>
>

In Monday's (28th June) Independent - Ian Roberts, hard man of
Australian Rugby League, tells Dave Hadfield about "coming out" on his
homosexuality.

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Greg
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David Weddell

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Jul 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/30/97
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WiganRLfan <wigan...@oddies.clara.net> writes

>>Our local paper is linking Sharks with Aussie Ian Roberts.
>Am I right in thinking this chap is the one and only "Gay" RL player?

No! There are numerous others. It seems Ian Roberts is the only one who has
chosen to be open/honest about himself. I for one admire him for it. It
took a lot of courage to cop all the criticism he got from some "people".

David

NJASHTON

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Aug 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/3/97
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Ian Roberts would feel at home with
Tim Wilby,and Paul Eastwood

Antonioni PJ

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Aug 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/4/97
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On 3 Aug 1997, NJASHTON wrote:

> Date: 3 Aug 1997 21:27:17 GMT
> From: NJASHTON <njas...@aol.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby.league
> Subject: Re: Hull Sharks


>
> Ian Roberts would feel at home with
> Tim Wilby,and Paul Eastwood

Is that humberside hospitality, or special treatment?

P.J.


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