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TidewayUmpire

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Jun 10, 2011, 3:30:32 PM6/10/11
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Cox'ns wear wellies in the boat; [usually] they keep the feet, clothed
in nice woolly socks, dry(ish) and warm (ish) in the depths of
midwinter.
However, if a cox should need to leave the boat mid-river, lake or
rowing course, the wellies would fill with water and probably greatly
hinder any attempt to self survive in a hostile environment - water.
What would RSR members recommend a cox wear to keep the feet dry[ish]
and warm[ish] when in the boat, but not to be an unacceptable
liability in the case of voluntary or involuntary egress from the boat
into 'out of depth' water, still, tidal or stream??

sully

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Jun 10, 2011, 3:37:03 PM6/10/11
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I've always wondered why coxes don't wear wetsuits when it's cold,
including
hood and booties. Neoprene booties are nice, get them at different
thicknesses,
and give good footing when surfaces are slick.

They suddenly become the safest person in the crew in case of sudden
cold water
immersion....

Carl Douglas

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Jun 10, 2011, 3:49:05 PM6/10/11
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They'd worry on about overheating, I expect....

Water-ski boots & gloves proved extremely effective, & comfortable, when
I did some mid-winter marathon canoeing some years back.

Cheers -
Carl

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sully

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Jun 10, 2011, 4:59:25 PM6/10/11
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On Jun 10, 12:49 pm, Carl Douglas <c...@carldouglas.co.uk> wrote:
> On 10/06/2011 20:37, sully wrote:
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> > On Jun 10, 12:30 pm, TidewayUmpire<pen...@aol.com>  wrote:
> >> Cox'ns wear wellies in the boat; [usually] they keep the feet, clothed
> >> in nice woolly socks, dry(ish) and warm (ish) in the depths of
> >> midwinter.
> >> However, if a cox should need to leave the boat mid-river, lake or
> >> rowing course, the wellies would fill with water and probably greatly
> >> hinder any attempt to self survive in a hostile environment - water.
> >> What would RSR members recommend a cox wear to keep the feet dry[ish]
> >> and warm[ish] when in the boat, but not to be an unacceptable
> >> liability in the case of voluntary or involuntary egress from the boat
> >> into 'out of depth' water, still, tidal or stream??
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> > I've always wondered why coxes don't wear wetsuits when it's cold,
> > including
> > hood and booties.    Neoprene booties are nice, get them at different
> > thicknesses,
> > and give good footing when surfaces are slick.
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> > They suddenly become the safest person in the crew in case of sudden
> > cold water
> > immersion....
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> They'd worry on about overheating, I expect....

that's certainly the case if you were rowing. There are different
wetsuit thicknesses and
styles, however.

My big objection would come down to practicalities of taking it on and
off, and they really
should be rinsed often.

Tink

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Jun 11, 2011, 7:32:26 AM6/11/11
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A cox at our club (coastal club) has a dry suit for coxing.

ATP

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Jun 11, 2011, 8:26:50 AM6/11/11
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"Tink" <helen.s...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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A cox at our club (coastal club) has a dry suit for coxing.

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I find that my drysuit with a latex neck gasket is not particularly
comfortable. The latex gaskets are extremely effective, but neoprene does a
pretty decent job of keeping most of the water out and is used in some kayak
tops. A breathable GoreTex drysuit with a neoprene neck gasket would
probably be practical in a wide range of temperatures with different liners
underneath.


Alistair

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Jun 11, 2011, 8:28:33 AM6/11/11
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Wearing wellies in boats is extremely foolish. I would encourage any
club to mandate against it. A cox has a responsibility to his or her
crew, and wearing wellies could seriously hinder that job and needlessly
endanger crew who are going to have to help out a cox who finds himself
standing in water deeper than his wellies. Suddenly it's like having
concrete shoes on.

Feet get wet, shoes get wet, socks get wet, its part of the job.
Waterproof over-trousers, a waterproof top, a scarf will keep you
perfectly warm and mostly dry. Bring some spare socks and shoes.

On a sloping ramp, get your stroke to piggy-back you in and out.

AJP

Henry Law

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Jun 11, 2011, 2:48:43 PM6/11/11
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On 11/06/11 13:28, Alistair wrote:
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> Feet get wet, shoes get wet, socks get wet, its part of the job.
> Waterproof over-trousers, a waterproof top, a scarf will keep you
> perfectly warm and mostly dry. Bring some spare socks and shoes.

My daughter had a small hot water bottle (in the shape of a fish, but
that's an unnecessary detail) which she used to fill just before she
left for the morning outing.

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Henry Law Manchester, England

Ashley Dillon

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Jun 11, 2011, 3:57:08 PM6/11/11
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Used to use a combination of warm socks and gaitex liners. Best thing
ive found are seal skinz socks. Very warm, waterproof and close
fitting so don't impede if you ever fell in. Main point is to stay
warm and dry. Cold and wet is neithet good for the cox or the crew
they are meant to be looking after

Sarah A Harbour

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Jun 11, 2011, 4:18:39 PM6/11/11
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On Jun 11, 8:57 pm, Ashley Dillon <adillon...@googlemail.com> wrote:

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> Used to use a combination of warm socks and gaitex liners.  Best thing
> ive found are seal skinz socks. Very warm, waterproof and close
> fitting so don't impede if you ever fell in. Main point is to stay
> warm and dry. Cold and wet is neithet good for the cox or the crew
> they are meant to be looking after

I was going to say following Alastair's comment - I thought wellies
for coxes was banned! Certainly I've always told coxes to take them
off when they get in the boat (not that many coxes wear wellies where
I row!).

Seal Skinz and trainers would be my advice. And Goretex trainers if
you can afford them, though the SealSkins would do on their own.
Depends if you want to have wet shoes or not.

Sarah

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