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Ewoud Dronkert

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Nov 27, 2005, 2:30:23 PM11/27/05
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Finished behind 5 (five!) S3 Lwt scullers. Oh the shame.

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Jon Anderson

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Nov 27, 2005, 2:39:39 PM11/27/05
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> Finished behind 5 (five!) S3 Lwt scullers. Oh the shame.

Dude, 360 scullers finished behind a S3 lwt.

Jon
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David Gillard

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Nov 28, 2005, 4:36:11 AM11/28/05
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> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>> Finished behind 5 (five!) S3 Lwt scullers. Oh the shame.
>
> Dude, 360 scullers finished behind a S3 lwt.
>
> Jon
> --

I guess I'd hoped that a thread with my name on it would be on a happier
note ...

It's a fair observation, and I didn't have my best day. The conditions did
not exactly play to my strengths, but, compared to how I'd have survived in
the past in that rough water, I thought I did okay. In fact as I overtook
no. 10 (who obviously beat me last year) and held off no. 12 (second in the
last lwt trials not far behind long-distance 'specialist' Tim Male, and who
'thumped' me a few times racing last summer) - I thought I'd done okay.

It does seem that there were in effect actually 2 races due to weather/tide
conditions - one for the first 75 or so, and then another for 75 or so
onwards. Much as Tom Gale is a good sculler, I'm sure he would accept that
beating Mahe Drysdale would indicate that they did not row on (anything
near) identical water. But great job Tom, that's part of the fun of Tideway
head races. You've got to take those opportunities when they present
themselves.

It's a bit frustrating though, as that is the big sculling head and the
results were somewhat randomised.

I can console myself by reflecting that a lot of very good scullers coped
even more poorly with conditions - Ockendon off no. 3 finished 89.
Grennan-Heaven off no. 13 finished 134.

So the erg champs and scullers head were going to be my winter races, but
I'm left feeling a little unsatisfied. What other options are there? Boston,
Lincs on the 17th December? After all I want some pay-back for those 5
sessions a week...

(re. Gorilla - it's a fair call. I'm 186 tall with an arm-span of 200m.
Anyone else with a similar discrepancy?)


Alistair Potts

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Nov 28, 2005, 4:53:13 AM11/28/05
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Carl Douglas

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Nov 28, 2005, 5:07:13 AM11/28/05
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Another RSR contributor, the Rev Fagan, was a bit close to you too. The
Lord works in mysterious ways?

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David Gillard

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Nov 28, 2005, 6:14:39 AM11/28/05
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<snip>

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> Another RSR contributor, the Rev Fagan, was a bit close to you too. The
> Lord works in mysterious ways?
>

:)

and what of RSR regular and SH organiser Chris Harrison, started 70th and
finished 199th? Has Chris sinned even more than me?


chris harrison

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Nov 28, 2005, 6:28:15 AM11/28/05
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... who was suffering from a cold and was seriously considering not
doing it - so sinned against than sinning?

The alternative was to be sat somewhere with a radio and doing
"important things", so I obviously opted to push through the stuffed up
head!

David Gillard

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Nov 28, 2005, 6:51:23 AM11/28/05
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>
> ... who was suffering from a cold and was seriously considering not doing
> it - so sinned against than sinning?
>
> The alternative was to be sat somewhere with a radio and doing "important
> things", so I obviously opted to push through the stuffed up head!

Good stuff. I guess not all organisers can still be racing, but I think it's
a "good thing". BTW I have no grumbles about the organisation - as far as I
could see it ran very smoothly. Thanks!


Adam

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Nov 28, 2005, 7:13:13 AM11/28/05
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200 meters? What sort of span/inboard set up do YOU have?! ;-)

David Gillard

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Nov 28, 2005, 8:59:51 AM11/28/05
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> 200 meters? What sort of span/inboard set up do YOU have?! ;-)
>

oh no, and I'm a Nat Sci too... Saturday was obviously pre-punishment for
sins against unit measurement.


Jeremy Fagan

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Nov 28, 2005, 1:07:12 PM11/28/05
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Carl Douglas wrote:
> David Gillard wrote:
>
>>> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>>>
>>>> Finished behind 5 (five!) S3 Lwt scullers. Oh the shame.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dude, 360 scullers finished behind a S3 lwt.
>>>
>>> Jon
>>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess I'd hoped that a thread with my name on it would be on a
>> happier note ...
>>
>> It's a fair observation, and I didn't have my best day. The conditions
>> did not exactly play to my strengths, but, compared to how I'd have
>> survived in the past in that rough water, I thought I did okay. In
>> fact as I overtook no. 10 (who obviously beat me last year) and held
>> off no. 12 (second in the last lwt trials not far behind long-distance
>> 'specialist' Tim Male, and who 'thumped' me a few times racing last
>> summer) - I thought I'd done okay.
>>
>> It does seem that there were in effect actually 2 races due to
>> weather/tide conditions - one for the first 75 or so, and then another
>> for 75 or so onwards. Much as Tom Gale is a good sculler, I'm sure he
>> would accept that beating Mahe Drysdale would indicate that they did
>> not row on (anything near) identical water. But great job Tom, that's
>> part of the fun of Tideway head races. You've got to take those
>> opportunities when they present themselves.

I did wonder, looking at the results, if something like this had
happened - I had a tail wind through to Barnes, a head wind and chop
round to Hammersmith, and a wonderful tail wind down to the finish (very
approximate descriptions, of course). I enjoyed my row, but didn't
expect to come quite so high - having been in a boat once in the
previous week, and not the boat I raced in since July.

This happened a few years ago, I seem to remember, and someone did a
graph showing something or other, and put it up on the Tideway Slug.

>>
>> It's a bit frustrating though, as that is the big sculling head and
>> the results were somewhat randomised.
>>
>> I can console myself by reflecting that a lot of very good scullers
>> coped even more poorly with conditions - Ockendon off no. 3 finished
>> 89. Grennan-Heaven off no. 13 finished 134.
>
>
> Another RSR contributor, the Rev Fagan, was a bit close to you too. The
> Lord works in mysterious ways?

I'd been in Devon all week, went down on the train and took my bike.
Cycled to the conference centre from Barnstaple on Monday (~20 miles),
cycled around Exmoor and the coast Tuesday and Wednesday in the
afternoons, nice and sunny etc. Set off at 7am on Friday for the
station, it started to snow at 7:15am, and cycled through the snowstorm
that stopped traffic across Devon and Cornwall, looking like a snowman
and slipping and sliding all over the place. Coming down the course on
Saturday, I just kept thinking, 'oh, well, it could be worse...'

Given how random my steering was on Saturday, it would be a miracle if
I'd been in the stream for much of the race.

Jeremy

liz

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Nov 28, 2005, 6:09:33 PM11/28/05
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"David Gillard" <dav...@NOSPAMPLEASErogge.co.uk> wrote in message
news:438acf8b$0$2007$4d4e...@read.news.uk.uu.net...

> (re. Gorilla - it's a fair call. I'm 186 tall with an arm-span of 200m.
> Anyone else with a similar discrepancy?)


200 Metre arm span???!! - man that's big...

;-)


Neil Wallace

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Nov 28, 2005, 6:41:22 PM11/28/05
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David Gillard wrote:
> (re. Gorilla - it's a fair call. I'm 186 tall with an arm-span of
> 200m. Anyone else with a similar discrepancy?)

You made me measure myself.
185cm tall with 189cm fingertip to fingertip.

Thanks for making me feel inadequate

Let's change the subject.

How big's your cock?
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Sorry!


anto...@aol.com

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Nov 28, 2005, 6:50:50 PM11/28/05
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Where do you buy your shirts? 193 tall Arms 202cm

paul_v...@hotmail.com

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Nov 28, 2005, 8:21:40 PM11/28/05
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188cm Tall, Span 203cm - Custom shirts are the only way to avoid
rolling up the cuffs. [:o)
REI products in XL - Long seem to work okay.

- Paul Smith

anto...@aol.com

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Nov 28, 2005, 9:55:03 PM11/28/05
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You are the proof of the theory of evolution!!!

David Gillard

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Nov 29, 2005, 4:14:33 AM11/29/05
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> Where do you buy your shirts? 193 tall Arms 202cm
>

Lewins with longer sleeves http://www.tmlewin.co.uk/. They wear much better
than Pinks. Never pay full price though, they have a sale every other week.


David Gillard

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Nov 29, 2005, 4:19:35 AM11/29/05
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> Thanks for making me feel inadequate
>
> Let's change the subject.
>
> How big's your cock?
> .

Well...

One of the worst examples of cox-abuse I've heard (I cannot guarantee its
accuracy) was when the two rowing members of a coxed pair settled a similar
argument by giving the cox a tape measure... I'll leave the rest to your
imagination.


paul_v...@hotmail.com

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Nov 29, 2005, 8:10:20 AM11/29/05
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You mean the opposable thumbs? [;o)

Ewoud Dronkert

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Nov 29, 2005, 8:21:40 AM11/29/05
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paul_v...@hotmail.com wrote:
> anto...@aol.com wrote:
>> paul_v...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> 188cm Tall, Span 203cm

>>
>> You are the proof of the theory of evolution!!!
>
> You mean the opposable thumbs? [;o)

No, by contradicting the alternative intelligent design theory.

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E. Dronkert

simonk

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Nov 29, 2005, 9:37:35 AM11/29/05
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"Ewoud Dronkert" <firs...@lastname.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:08loo1hkmckoa6mke...@4ax.com...

No-one yet seems to have refuted the Flying Spaghetti Monster theory, I
notice ...

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paul_v...@hotmail.com

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Nov 29, 2005, 10:05:21 AM11/29/05
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Hmmm, this must not translate from the Dutch very well. I've always
seemed to be rather intelligently designed.

- Paul Smith

a...@irow.com

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Nov 30, 2005, 6:29:19 PM11/30/05
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Marvellous idea. Might go and buy some.

donal...@gmail.com

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Dec 1, 2005, 4:07:32 AM12/1/05
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Perhaps try the Armada Cup (9km)/ Klagenfuurt(16km) and Turin(11km)
next year!

Donal

chris harrison

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Dec 1, 2005, 7:32:57 AM12/1/05
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David Gillard wrote:
> Good stuff. I guess not all organisers can still be racing, but I think it's
> a "good thing". BTW I have no grumbles about the organisation - as far as I
> could see it ran very smoothly. Thanks!

Thanks - while there have been a few wrinkles with the organisation and
the race, it seems to have passed off reasonably smoothly.

For what it's worth, I find that being an official who still rows is a
valuable thing from both perspectives. As a competitor you realise how
shallow all those excuses sound ("sorry we're late", "that heel
restraint was ok earlier", "my dog ate the ARA card") - but as an
official you're equally aware as to the single-minded-ness and
all-importance of each race.

I'd commend all athletes to think about qualifying to officiate - and
for officials to continue competing as long as they are able. While I
officiate with some very, very capable people, there are a good few
who've clearly forgotten what being in a boat is like.

Or maybe it just means I can sit on the fence with a little more comfort :)

David Gillard

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Dec 1, 2005, 8:30:09 AM12/1/05
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> Perhaps try the Armada Cup (9km)/ Klagenfuurt(16km) and Turin(11km)
> next year!
>
> Donal

I like the idea, but driving several hundred miles with a scull on the roof
puts me off. My old friend Dirk rowed the Silverskiff in Turin this year and
thought it was great. It's a long time to wait though as it's only just
happened this year...


david.h...@aea.be

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Dec 1, 2005, 10:27:19 AM12/1/05
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In beautiful nearby Belgium:
Feb 26 Nieuweghe-Brugge 5.2km
http://www.krbrugge.be/
Lea/IC/Westminster went a couple of years ago for the Saturday 8s head,
not last year.

Mar 11 Seneffe ?5km?
http://users.skynet.be/sky67201/index.html
Occasional entries from UK

Dave H

Ewoud Dronkert

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Dec 1, 2005, 11:11:25 AM12/1/05
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david.h...@aea.be wrote:
> Mar 11 Seneffe ?5km?
> http://users.skynet.be/sky67201/index.html
> Occasional entries from UK

Ah yes! At least 10km. Or maybe that was just the rowing to the start in a
torrential downpour. Fortunately it stopped when we arrived there,
unfortunately we had to wait another 15 min. I think I was shivering for a
km into the race.

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david.h...@aea.be

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Dec 1, 2005, 11:48:16 AM12/1/05
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Last couple of years men's singles were taking 23-24 minutes which
suggests 5.5 - 6 km.

I'm certain it used to be longer, I only did it once, 25 years ago and
although I have mercifully expunged the memory of the row I recall
marshalling by the Ronquières lock, and I know that's 11 km from the
Seneffe club

kathryns...@yahoo.co.uk

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Dec 2, 2005, 8:33:11 AM12/2/05
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The Lea had a lovely time. I'm not sure about that rain. I think we
were there in a different year to you, we had snow! We stayed for the
Sunday race as well, the boys were most disappointed not to have to
race under the bridge that is so low you have to lie down in the boat
to get under, apparently they opened it just in time. I certainly
remember that the Saturday races, all in 8s were shorter than the
Sunday small boats races!
A great time was had by all, especially the junior girls and women's
eights, both of whom won unlike the men who came 2nd!
Kathryn

Ewoud Dronkert

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Dec 2, 2005, 8:42:11 AM12/2/05
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kathryns...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> I'm not sure about that rain. I think we
> were there in a different year to you, we had snow!

You talking to me? (not sure because you replied to David and didn't quote
anything). But yeah, my trip to Seneffe was way back in 1992.

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