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Why don't we weigh High School coxswains?

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Ed Maxwell

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Jan 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/10/00
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Out here in the Northwest, we weigh in coxsains all the time. The
weights are the USRowing minimums. Whenever we race in Canada, we also
have to weigh them in. Same is true for the Youth Invitational in
Cincy.

I'm not sure how weighing them in would get rid of the rowers acting
like idiots. If your cox'n weighs 122 instead of 120, then you could
have the same behavior you described. I think that it is up to the
coach to stop things like that by not focusing so much on coxswain
weight and emphasizing skill instead.


Ed Maxwell
Green Lake Crew

"Andrew G. Feinberg" wrote:
>
> Sitting and pondering last night, I wondered why of all the differences
> between the various HS regattas and club and national/international
> regattas is the ignoring of this rule, or the lack of something similar:
>
> USRowing rules 4-109: Coxswain's Weight
>
> (a) A coxswain in an event for men's crews shall weigh at least 120 lbs. A
> coxswain in event for women's crews shall weigh at least 110 lbs. Weight
> shall be determined as provided in Rule 4-110 ("Weighing of Competitors").
>
> In the short amount of time that I've been in the sport, I've never heard
> of nor experienced a cox being weighed at any regatta that I've attended
> during the HS racing season (I'm not sure about USRowing Youth Invite, so
> this may or may not apply to that.) Specifically, Stotesbury and SRAs, two
> of the largest and most competitive events in the country, do not require
> a minimum weight for coxs, nor does the NVSRA (Northern VA/DC/Maryland
> schools), one of the more competitive areas in the country.
>
> One of the more unpleasant experiences of my short rowing/coxing career is
> watching a boat lose by a bowball, row to the dock, and hearing the
> rowers mercilessly berate their coxswain about his lack of enthusiasm for
> crash diets and sweat runs. I don't see why events like this need to
> occur. Forgetting the potential unfairness caused by a 70 pound coxswain
> racing a 120 pounder in a major national race, shouldn't the unhealthiness
> of already-small people attempting to cut as much weight as possible
> trouble anyone?
>
> Why is it, that in a sport where there is so much controversy about 17
> year olds cutting weight to make lightweight boats, is there no concern
> over a classification where there is -no- weight minimum of any kind,
> encouraging the limbo-like question for coxs of "how low can you go?" I
> would like to hear people's opinions on this issue, and I hope my breaking
> my massive lurk-fest in this NG is not in vain :). Let's be polite, eh?
>
> With thanks,
>
> Andrew
>
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Nick Butcher

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Jan 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/10/00
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Ed Maxwell wrote:
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> Out here in the Northwest, we weigh in coxsains all the time.

How many are there to the kilo?

James A. Hilsenteger

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Jan 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/10/00
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Inetersting. Out here on the West Coast, with the exception of some summer
regattas and a couple of fall regattas, coxswains on the junior level must
weigh in, even for novice races.

IWe have a 70-pounder on our squad and I'm not looking forward to lugging the
40 pounds of weight down to her boat this spring.


James A. Hilsenteger
"Life is too long for bad coffee"

Christopher Anton

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Jan 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/11/00
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In article <slrn87pati...@everest.yooniks.org>, "Andrew G.
Feinberg" <and...@ultraviolet.org.NOSPAM123> writes

>Sitting and pondering last night, I wondered why of all the differences
>between the various HS regattas and club and national/international
>regattas is the ignoring of this rule, or the lack of something similar:
>
>USRowing rules 4-109: Coxswain's Weight
>
>(a) A coxswain in an event for men's crews shall weigh at least 120 lbs. A
>coxswain in event for women's crews shall weigh at least 110 lbs. Weight
>shall be determined as provided in Rule 4-110 ("Weighing of Competitors").
>
Well at least those are more realistic weights than in the UK. The
limits here are men 110 lbs, women and junior 88 lbs

> shouldn't the unhealthiness
>of already-small people attempting to cut as much weight as possible
>trouble anyone?
>

It certainly does me as I'm never going to make 50kg.


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Christopher Anton

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