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Croker vs. Concept2 blades for 1x
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Laura Bauschard
Nov 25, 2015, 10:27:47 AM11/25/15
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Hello Everyone,
What are your thoughts about Croker versus Concept2 blades to scull in a single?
I have only eve used Concept2 for sweep and sculling. A friend at the boathouse has offered to let me try out her Crokers.
Someone has recommended that I get skinny shaft blades... Why are these better - wind resistence?
Your thoughts on blade shape would also be appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your input!
Best, Laura
What are your thoughts about Croker versus Concept2 blades to scull in a single?
I have only eve used Concept2 for sweep and sculling. A friend at the boathouse has offered to let me try out her Crokers.
Someone has recommended that I get skinny shaft blades... Why are these better - wind resistence?
Your thoughts on blade shape would also be appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your input!
Best, Laura
Paul
Nov 25, 2015, 3:21:12 PM11/25/15
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I've rowed for 15 years with Crokers, concept 2s and recently skinny crokers.
I find normal crokers are the easiest to row with in a single. Concept 2s and skinny crokers are harder to row with.
I find the skinny crokers and concepts 2s offer less stability on the drive in rough water or in windy conditions. When the boat goes down on one side it goes down further with skinny crokers or concept 2s.
If you never row in rough or windy conditions it won't matter.
I find normal crokers are the easiest to row with in a single. Concept 2s and skinny crokers are harder to row with.
I find the skinny crokers and concepts 2s offer less stability on the drive in rough water or in windy conditions. When the boat goes down on one side it goes down further with skinny crokers or concept 2s.
If you never row in rough or windy conditions it won't matter.
s...@ku.edu
Nov 26, 2015, 8:18:16 AM11/26/15
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You can't go wrong with C2s or Crokers. In the US, Dreher also has devoted followers. Although I rowed several generation of C2 sculls (starting with wood plug handle macons), I've been rowing Crokers for the last 10 years. For me Crokers have a more refined feel. What model Croker are you test driving? My old pair are S2s, and I'm currently rowing the new S39 (arrow or skinny). The arrows are noticeably lighter than the S2s and that can effect balance (or at least the feel of balance). I've had no problems with wind or rough conditions. I did find that adding 1 degree of lateral pitch (I use 4 degree oar lock inserts) helped my catches. With the S2 and C2s I used 0 degrees of lateral pitch.
Steven M-M
Laura Bauschard
Nov 27, 2015, 11:56:27 AM11/27/15
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Thanks for your input! Will try both types (C2 & Croker). The Crokers are the regular kind, not skinny shaft. I like the molded grip on the Crokers.
Yes, we scull in rough water and balance can be an issue(!) but am working on that. Maybe it's best to just borrow club blades until my sculling skills are stronger.
Yes, we scull in rough water and balance can be an issue(!) but am working on that. Maybe it's best to just borrow club blades until my sculling skills are stronger.
Jim Dwyer
Nov 27, 2015, 12:09:42 PM11/27/15
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CII now has molded grips as well.
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James HS
Nov 27, 2015, 12:10:26 PM11/27/15
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I would definately reccomend using club kut untill you feel strongercat sculling as a lot can change as you get a feel and experience more kit.
Also good to be versatile as if you end up in a crew sculling boat you will probably all use club kit :)
Also good to be versatile as if you end up in a crew sculling boat you will probably all use club kit :)
s...@ku.edu
Nov 27, 2015, 2:45:37 PM11/27/15
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On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 11:10:26 AM UTC-6, James HS wrote:
> I would definately reccomend using club kut untill you feel strongercat sculling as a lot can change as you get a feel and experience more kit.
>
> Also good to be versatile as if you end up in a crew sculling boat you will probably all use club kit :)
Laura, Using club equipment is always the place to start. Many clubs, at least in the US, rig all their sculls the same way and often this standard is too long and with too much inboard for many scullers who may not be "standard" rower size. Having equipment that fits you helps in developing a good technique, so you may want to buy your own oars sooner than later. Are the non skinny Crokers you are trying, S3, S2, or S4 shafts (should say so on the shaft)? Of the 3 S3s are the heaviest and S4s the lightest. The blade, btw, on the arrows is different from the older models, which all shared the same blade. The new blade shape maybe as important as the skinny shaft. Remember, buying oars is not a lifetime commitment. In a few years you may want something different and someone new to the sport will jump at the chance to buy your old ones at a good price. Maybe you'll be out a few 100 $ for the pleasure of owning your own stuff.
> I would definately reccomend using club kut untill you feel strongercat sculling as a lot can change as you get a feel and experience more kit.
>
> Also good to be versatile as if you end up in a crew sculling boat you will probably all use club kit :)
Steven M-M
sully
Nov 28, 2015, 8:48:35 PM11/28/15
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And the recommend to try the skinny shaft may not be because they are better, just different.
It's not going to matter much unless you are training at a high level and gain a more granular sensitivity, and are splitting hairs on characteristics of this or that oar. It's still pretty voodoo even then, pretty much every type of oar wins races, as do singles.
wmar...@gmail.com
Nov 28, 2015, 10:51:55 PM11/28/15
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