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Pat Ford

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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jA friend has asked me to investigate the value of an antique rowing
shell. It is to be donated to a museum and needs to have an
approximate worth placed upon the gift. It is a single, circa 1905, in
excellent useable condition. I do not know the builder.

I do not normally read this newsgroup; I would appreciate it if you
would please respond if you have any information or opinions to:

pf...@halcyon.com
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POWER10

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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Old wooden fours, build in the 40s, have been selling to restaurants for
decorative purposes, so it would not be out of line to state the value of
$2000.00 for a 1900 single. If you describe the boat riggers and inner
construction, someone from this newsgroup will probably be able to give you
more info, e.g., it could be a Sims from England or an early Pocock from USA.

Gordon L. Pizor
Wilmington Youth Rowing Assn
Gordon L. Pizor
power10

recsportrowing

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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Contact Darryl Strickler at :stri...@mindspring.com
he owns RowableClassics (also a web site at that address)
he deals in saving antique boats.
--
Mike Kneafsey
President, Tulsa Rowing Club

Michael Sullivan

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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POWER10 wrote:
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> Old wooden fours, build in the 40s, have been selling to restaurants for
> decorative purposes, so it would not be out of line to state the value of
> $2000.00 for a 1900 single. If you describe the boat riggers and inner
> construction, someone from this newsgroup will probably be able to give you
> more info, e.g., it could be a Sims from England or an early Pocock from USA.

It from the email address, it would seem that a call
to Pocock Racing Shells in Seattle would be fruitful.

Without trying to be persnickity, if the boat was truly
1905 it couldn't have been made by the USA Pococks, as
they didn't arrive in Vancouver until ~1911, though it
could well have been imported from the family shop in
England.

I'd love to see this boat, where is it?

Mike

Pat Ford

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:25:15 GMT, pf...@halcyon.com (Pat Ford) wrote:

>jA friend has asked me to investigate the value of an antique rowing
>shell. It is to be donated to a museum and needs to have an
>approximate worth placed upon the gift. It is a single, circa 1905, in
>excellent useable condition. I do not know the builder.
>
>I do not normally read this newsgroup; I would appreciate it if you
>would please respond if you have any information or opinions to:

It turns out it is not a shell but a rowing wherry. Here is the
description as received from my friend:

>It was made by A.L. Rogers of Alameda, California, in approximately 1909. It
>is further described as a "lapstrake wherry, of Port Orford Cedar, copper
>clinch-nailed, 20.5 feet in length by 24 inches width, with a 58 1/2 inch
>outrigger spacing and 112 inch oars.

Thanks for your help.

Wasnt Me

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Nov 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/4/98
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Pat Ford wrote:
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> On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:25:15 GMT, pf...@halcyon.com (Pat Ford) wrote:
>
<Some writing clipped>

>
> It turns out it is not a shell but a rowing wherry. Here is the
> description as received from my friend:
>
> >It was made by A.L. Rogers of Alameda, California, in approximately 1909. It
> >is further described as a "lapstrake wherry, of Port Orford Cedar, copper
> >clinch-nailed, 20.5 feet in length by 24 inches width, with a 58 1/2 inch
> >outrigger spacing and 112 inch oars.

A.L. Rogers was a boatbuilder in Alameda from approximately 1900 until
the mid Teens. His shop was located on
Alameda Pt. at the end of the mole, which is on the former grounds of
the Alameda Naval Air Station.
The Erhman Mansion at Lake Tahoe(a California State Park) has a wherry
by A.L. Rogers from approximately the same date and with the same design
as you have listed. My sources for this information were the Alameda
History Museum (510-521-1233) and the Alameda Free Library( I was
looking for a local history project while in grad school.) The Bancroft
Library at UCBerkeley may have more info. Sorry, nothing about the
value. The wherry at the Erhman Mansion had C-shaped oarlocks that I
have seen on later Pocock singles.


Tom Lacher

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