schoenbrods?

[Michael R Labbe]

Hi all,
been reading this conference for a couple weeks now. very interesting.
As a former builder of Schoenbrod Racing Shells (1977-1985) I am
curious to know if any of these vintage models are still around and who's
rowing them.
Back then I worked with Helmut Schoenbrod and a couple other guys.
We built only 4x's and 8x's. The shop got sold. We all moved on to other
careers. I always wondered how the 'new' schoenbrods measured up to what
we built.
Still facinated by that sport and business.

Mike

[BilMcGowan]

There are a number of boathouses along the Charles that have vintage
Schoenbrods still in use, or about to be sold. Stop into Community Rowing
(located at the Daly Ice Rink on Nonantum Road [a continuation of Soldiers
Field Road] in Newton and take a look around. Are you the one responsible
for the riggers, or are you just a hull man?! Call me at (617)254-3233,
or speak with Sharon Grazioso, CRI's Operations Director, at (617)964-2455
if you'd like to stop by CRI. It's also home to the Brandeis, BC, and
Lesley crew teams. I'm sure we could use your input on proper maintenance
of older Schoenbrods.
Sincerely, Bill McGowan, East Field Service Coordinator for USRowing, 5
Gerrish Street, Brighton, MA 02135-1704

[George D. Kirschbaum Jr.]

Mike, not to take awy from the hadr worka dn care that
you put into building those old Schoenbrods. . . but the one I have I
would like to set on fire and set adrift. The riggers are a pian to
adjust. . . to many adjustments. Oh well, it does row , and my kids won a
race or two this weekend in one. I however are much more pleased with my
Dirgio!

George Kirschbaum
Coach & Coxswain

[Sullys Maze]

In article <Pine.BSI.3.91.95040...@river.biddeford.com>,

Michael R Labbe <mrl...@river.biddeford.com> writes:
>Hi all,
> been reading this conference for a couple weeks now. very interesting.
> As a former builder of Schoenbrod Racing Shells (1977-1985) I am
>curious to know if any of these vintage models are still around and who's
>rowing them.
> Back then I worked with Helmut Schoenbrod and a couple other guys.
>We built only 4x's and 8x's. The shop got sold. We all moved on to other
>careers. I always wondered how the 'new' schoenbrods measured up to what
>we built.
> Still facinated by that sport and business.

What an opportunity!! Mike, back in the late 70's, Helmut changed
the design of the interior bracing on many (if not all) of the
eights and fours. The shoulder rigger support braces that had
gone from the gunwhale in a straight line to join it's opposite
member at the keel was changed to go at a 90 degree angle and be
fastened to the horizonontal cross brace of the seat/track platform.

was: became:

___ ___
| |
| |____ ____
\ / _______) (_____
\ \ / /
\ \ / /
\ \ / /
\ \ / /
\ U - keel U - keel

Helmut told us that it was a substantial weight savings. After
the first season of use, the eight went soft. You could look from
the stern and the boat would be absorbing the stress against the
oarlock. The 90 degree angled braces would break where the grain
of the wood became perpendicular to the direction of stress.

It was my impression that Helmut concurred with us that it was a
poor design, he came out to Irvine and watched the boat being rowed,
yet I saw some women's fours built in the early 80s that had the
same design. You can see boats that have constant use of this
design get ripply gunwhales.

I always liked the shoenbrod riggers, except like most, they are
hell in salt water, despite the good hard anodizing. The glass
hulls were great and the workmanship consistantly excellent on these
boats.

The old wooden boats Helmut used to make were some of the prettier
boats I've ever seen.

Mike

[Charles Jonathan Huthmaker]

Here at GSU we have 3 old Schoenbrods. One 8 that we sank on a stump last
year, one 8 that we bought and are restoring (going to be very nice), and
one 4 that is weighs a lot but the damn rigging won't go high enough for a
light women's crew. Overall they are the bread and butter of many small teams
and are good for novices. Some people still race and sometimes win in
them. Still, I am hooked on racing Vespoli's. We have two of those, just
noone to race them :-(.

charles huthmaker
GSU Crew

p.s. the high school team at our boathouse had 3 until they sold 2 last
fall.
--
Charles Jonathan Huthmaker
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt2945a
Internet: gt2...@prism.gatech.edu

[lauren...@brewsteracademy.org]

On Sunday, April 9, 1995 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Michael R Labbe wrote:
> Hi all,
> been reading this conference for a couple weeks now. very interesting.
> As a former builder of Schoenbrod Racing Shells (1977-1985) I am
> curious to know if any of these vintage models are still around and who's
> rowing them.
> Back then I worked with Helmut Schoenbrod and a couple other guys.
> We built only 4x's and 8x's. The shop got sold. We all moved on to other
> careers. I always wondered how the 'new' schoenbrods measured up to what
> we built.
> Still facinated by that sport and business.
>

> Mike

HI Mike - I was just given a single that has been hanging around someone's barn for years. It has wood gunnels and requires a vinyl decking though it seems to be made of some fiberglass material. It used to be a training boat for a gal who rowed at St. Paul's School. I don't even know how to properly maintain this boat but it is a freebie and I'm just able to row on a nearby lake so I'm taking it. Any recommendations as to where to take it for upkeep and repairs?

[Henry Law]

On 22/06/14 14:29, lauren...@brewsteracademy.org wrote:
> HI Mike

Lauren, you did see that the original post was 1995, 19 years ago? This
is a wonderful group full of friendly people and, who knows, someone may
know the answer to your question, but the trail itself is long gone cold!

--

Henry Law Manchester, England

[Carl]

The Schoenbrod business was taken over by Charles Dibble in, I think,
the early '90s. Very sadly, Charles died rather recently, having
previously sold the business on. I don't know who now runs it or if it
still exists.

Charles did build singles, and indeed we supplied a lot of fittings
(seats, tracks and riggers) for these, as well as for his crew shells.

I guess the St Paul's you have in mind is in Concord, NH, but where are
you? If you need spares, we can probably help you, despite the pond
between us, and if the repairs are simple enough for DIY we may be able
to guide you. For specialist shell repairers in your locality we might
be able to help - if we know your location.

Cheers -
Carl

--
Carl Douglas Racing Shells -
Fine Small-Boats/AeRoWing Low-drag Riggers/Advanced Accessories
Write: Harris Boatyard, Laleham Reach, Chertsey KT16 8RP, UK
Find: tinyurl.com/2tqujf
Email: ca...@carldouglasrowing.com Tel: +44(0)1932-570946 Fax: -563682
URLs: carldouglasrowing.com & now on Facebook @ CarlDouglasRacingShells

[Henry Law]

On 22/06/14 18:08, Carl wrote:
> I guess the St Paul's you have in mind is in Concord, NH, but where are you?

Brewster Academy, in which domain the OP's email address is located, is
in New Hampshire right enough, and there's a staff bio for her.

[sully]

seems to be increasing in frequency, are ppl re-discovering usenet?

Is there some sort of app out there that is directing ppl to these old boards?

[lauren...@brewsteracademy.org]

Ha!!! No! I didn't notice that the post was 1995. Oh my! Ha! Well . . .I'll find out from the local community in Boston. I'm up in Wolfeboro, New Hampshire but I'm sure there is someone in the Boston rowing community that can help me out. Thank you for writing back. Why are you on this thread?

[Henry Law]

On 25/06/14 22:18, lauren...@brewsteracademy.org wrote:
> Thank you for writing back. Why are you on this thread?

Because this group is full of friendly and helpful people and I'm trying
to be one too ...

[maread...@googlemail.com]

On Sunday, 9 April 1995 02:00:00 UTC-5, Michael R Labbe wrote:
> Hi all,
> been reading this conference for a couple weeks now. very interesting.
> As a former builder of Schoenbrod Racing Shells (1977-1985) I am
> curious to know if any of these vintage models are still around and who's
> rowing them.
> Back then I worked with Helmut Schoenbrod and a couple other guys.
> We built only 4x's and 8x's. The shop got sold. We all moved on to other
> careers. I always wondered how the 'new' schoenbrods measured up to what
> we built.
> Still facinated by that sport and business.
>
> Mike

Hello,

We are buying 2 shoenbrods to start our club, two 4+. However, due to some very complicated bureaucratic process we need to provide serial numbers to import them. Did they have serial numbers? do you have an example of one? thanks . best maurizio

[sully]

Who are you buying them from, can't they look them up on the boat?

The serial number on an old schoenbrod is likely stamped at the stern posts along the top edge of the hull. I have boats at home I can look at but that's 4-5 days until I get there.

[maread...@googlemail.com]

the person says they cannot find them. where are they located?

cheers

maurizio

[tcyr...@gmail.com]

Schoenbrod became Dirigo and after Charlie Dibble got out, Saco River Rowing. I've never seen one of their boats and I think even this trail has gone cold.

Here is the last url, still active.

http://www.rumerys.com/homeSRR.html

[maread...@googlemail.com]

Thanks a lot !

[sully]

If they aren't where I suggested, I'll have a chance to look at my old boats this weekend when I'm home and I'll get back to you with the exact location. Email me Saturday to remind me sul at slac dot stanford dot edu

[maread...@googlemail.com]

thanks a lot ! best !

[spscov...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, April 9, 1995 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Michael R Labbe wrote:
> Hi all,
> been reading this conference for a couple weeks now. very interesting.
> As a former builder of Schoenbrod Racing Shells (1977-1985) I am
> curious to know if any of these vintage models are still around and who's
> rowing them.
> Back then I worked with Helmut Schoenbrod and a couple other guys.
> We built only 4x's and 8x's. The shop got sold. We all moved on to other
> careers. I always wondered how the 'new' schoenbrods measured up to what
> we built.
> Still facinated by that sport and business.
>
> Mike

Hello Mike,

I am currently restoring some older Schoenbrods from the era you worked there to be used again. I came across this while looking for some information regarding the seats. If you still have any interest on the subject (I know its much later), feel free to reply or shoot me an email.

Alex

[drbe...@gmail.com]

Back in the 90s I was with a club that left their boats outside. In a heavy ice storm a tree cleaved a pocock and schoenbrod. The club didn't much care, stripped the rigging and threw the hulls into the woods to rot. I offered to dispose of them about a year later. The bow and stern sections were more or less intact. To make a long story short