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WHAT IS BEST ROWING MACHINE??????

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John J. Corelli

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Nov 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/26/96
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dew...@aol.com wrote:
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> Anyone having info. or suggestions on the very best rowing machines,
> please respond with your endorsements. Wanting to get started rowing !!!
> DEW...@aol.com
The Concept II Indoor Rowing Machine (Ergometer) is the best on
land trainer around. The machine closely simulates the motion of
on-water rowing better than anything else out there. The customer
service is great and if you want to get into competition, they hold
indoor regattas all over the country in Feb. For more information you
can find the Concept II home page at http://www.concept2.com

Happy rowing!

Rand Ardell

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Nov 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/26/96
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I think that you'll find that 99% of people in this newsgroup will
respond with the same answer on this one.

The Concept II indoor rower is *the* standard when it comes to
true-to-life rowing machines. Nothing else comes close. Whatever you
do, *don't* buy one of those piston-type hydraulic machines -- all they
really do is upper-body muscle development with none of the great cardio
that you get with a Concept II. The LifeCycle people make a rower, too,
but it's a complete joke (more of a video game than an exercise
machine).

The latest Concept II is the model C -- currently sold factory-direct
from Concept II in Vermont for $725US plus shipping. Do NOT buy it at
your local exercise store as they mark up the prices signficantly. You
can find more info at Concept II's web site (www.concept2.com); they can
also be reached at 1-800-245-5676 (they'll be happy to send you a free
info kit with video).

And no, I don't work for the company! I'm just a proud new owner.


Rand

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dew...@aol.com

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Nov 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/26/96
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Youra Turceninoff

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Nov 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/27/96
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Rand Ardell <ard...@interlog.com> wrote:

>I think that you'll find that 99% of people in this newsgroup will
>respond with the same answer on this one.

True, but.....

>The Concept II indoor rower is *the* standard when it comes to
>true-to-life rowing machines. Nothing else comes close. Whatever you
>do, *don't* buy one of those piston-type hydraulic machines -- all they
>really do is upper-body muscle development with none of the great cardio
>that you get with a Concept II. The LifeCycle people make a rower, too,
>but it's a complete joke (more of a video game than an exercise
>machine).

I don't agree at all (Except about the piston monstrosities)

The 'Waterrower' (look at:
http://business.connections.co.uk/waterrower/
for info) has a much better feel to it than the CII, of any model, B
or C. It sounds better, looks better, and feels very much more like a
sculling boat than any CII ever did.

Only problem is the price :-((((

>And no, I don't work for the company! I'm just a proud new owner.

Nor do I ;-)


Youra.
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tex...@infi.net

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Nov 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/27/96
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Although the majority think the Concept 2 is the bext. I vote for the
water rower. Some people like the ambiance and sound and feel of the
Waterrower over the Concept 2. I might warn you that it only has a
timer versus the Rate meter etc, on the Concept Two. If interested
Watermark and Nordic Trac carry them.
Sincerely.
AH Goldman Jr.

John J. Corelli

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Nov 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/27/96
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Youra Turceninoff wrote:

>
> Rand Ardell <ard...@interlog.com> wrote:
>
>
> The 'Waterrower' (look at:
> http://business.connections.co.uk/waterrower/
> for info) has a much better feel to it than the CII, of any model, B
> or C. It sounds better, looks better, and feels very much more like a
> sculling boat than any CII ever did.
>
> Only problem is the price :-((((
> Youra.

I've tried out the Water Rower at a Nordic Trac dealer, and if it's the
same thing then the price is not the only problem that *I* can see.
Half of the CII advantage is the fluid simulation of rowing that you
get. The OTHER half is the data that the digital Perf. Monitor
provides. All the different modes of display, drag factor, splits,
estimated distance at current speed, heart rate interface...You get none
of these on the water rower I tried and have seen advertised in the
Alden Bookshelf catalog. You only get time of work out in the form of a
countdown timer. True it is a nice LOOKING piece of 'exercise
equipment' made out of Cherry, but then I have to ask, is a rowing
machine's purpose to be looked at and admired like a piece of furniture
or is it supposed to be used like the blood sweat and tears workout
equipment that it was meant to be??

John
Melbourne, FL

Youra Turceninoff

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Nov 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/28/96
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"John J. Corelli" <jcor...@aeronix.com> wrote:

> I've tried out the Water Rower at a Nordic Trac dealer, and if it's the
>same thing then the price is not the only problem that *I* can see.
>Half of the CII advantage is the fluid simulation of rowing that you
>get. The OTHER half is the data that the digital Perf. Monitor
>provides. All the different modes of display, drag factor, splits,
>estimated distance at current speed, heart rate interface...You get none
>of these on the water rower I tried and have seen advertised in the
>Alden Bookshelf catalog. You only get time of work out in the form of a
>countdown timer. True it is a nice LOOKING piece of 'exercise
>equipment' made out of Cherry, but then I have to ask, is a rowing
>machine's purpose to be looked at and admired like a piece of furniture
>or is it supposed to be used like the blood sweat and tears workout
>equipment that it was meant to be??

>John
>Melbourne, FL

I think that we are perhaps disagreeing on the definition of 'best',
rather than other things - there is nothing wrong with the data put
out by the monitor on the Waterrower per se, except that it is not the
same information that is put out by the monitor on the CII-C, which by
dint of its wide use in rowing clubs etc. has become the de facto
'standard' machine. If you are after a good workout, both machines
will give it to you, and both will give you what is in all truth
sufficient monitoring information for most people. The waterrower is
better looking, perhaps (whether you use the (v.expensive) cherry wood
model, or the (slightly less so) metal one), but most definately a LOT
quieter than the CII-C, which if used as a home exercise machine is
certainly something that needs to be taken in account.

Rand Ardell

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Nov 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/28/96
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Funny -- I checked out the WaterRower web site last night (as
recommended by Youra) and found their rower to be a rather odd looking
device.

It also made me wonder -- how often do you have to change the water?!

I really like the design of the CII model C; the noise (which they've
improved quite a bit) is still the only negative.


Rand

John J. Corelli wrote:

> I've tried out the Water Rower at a Nordic Trac dealer, and if it's the
> same thing then the price is not the only problem that *I* can see.
> Half of the CII advantage is the fluid simulation of rowing that you
> get. The OTHER half is the data that the digital Perf. Monitor
> provides. All the different modes of display, drag factor, splits,
> estimated distance at current speed, heart rate interface...You get none
> of these on the water rower I tried and have seen advertised in the
> Alden Bookshelf catalog. You only get time of work out in the form of a
> countdown timer. True it is a nice LOOKING piece of 'exercise
> equipment' made out of Cherry, but then I have to ask, is a rowing
> machine's purpose to be looked at and admired like a piece of furniture
> or is it supposed to be used like the blood sweat and tears workout
> equipment that it was meant to be??

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Mike Watson

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Dec 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/2/96
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In article <84908418...@youra.plc.psion.com>, youra-tu...@psion.com (Youra Turceninoff) writes:
>Rand Ardell <ard...@interlog.com> wrote:

>I don't agree at all (Except about the piston monstrosities)
>

>The 'Waterrower' (look at:
>http://business.connections.co.uk/waterrower/
>for info) has a much better feel to it than the CII, of any model, B
>or C. It sounds better, looks better, and feels very much more like a
>sculling boat than any CII ever did.
>

I agree, The Waterrower feels much like a single, perhaps a bit heavy at the finish
and is very quiet (comparted to CII model B),
I'm not convinced the calibration of the computer is directly comparable to the CII,
it registers speed in m/S for a start, It looks very smart in natural wood, not like
a pile of bicycle parts and fits in very well in the home environment.
And the seat is far more comfortable ... for my bum anyway !
Happy erging !

Mike
Leicester R.C

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