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Mike J

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Jan 29, 2009, 9:02:18 AM1/29/09
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Hi

Apologies for taking up space here as a non-rower but I am trying to
source a clip of the Cambridge boat sinking prior to the University
Boat Race in 1979.

Cannot find it anywehere, not even YouTube!

If anyone either has this clip they could email as an Mpeg file - or
knows where I could either find it online or on a commercially
available DVD in the UK I would be eternally grateful.

Robin

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Jan 29, 2009, 9:08:06 AM1/29/09
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Boat Race 1978 was the sinking.
If you're in the UK (probably) - go to the following link :

http://www.itv.com/Sport/BoatRace/Features/Thatsinkingfeeling/default.html

you have to wait a few seconds for a pre-feature commercial but it
then plays the footage showing Cambridge going down stern first

Hope this helps.
Robin

Susan Walker

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Jan 29, 2009, 9:26:19 AM1/29/09
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Robin wrote:
> Boat Race 1978 was the sinking.
> If you're in the UK (probably) - go to the following link :
> http://www.itv.com/Sport/BoatRace/Features/Thatsinkingfeeling/default.html

Not requested, but britishpathe.com has two clips from 1925 and 1926
sinkings.

rdup...@hotmail.com

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Jan 29, 2009, 11:03:38 AM1/29/09
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On Jan 29, 2:02 pm, Mike J <mike.jen...@vantisplc.com> wrote:

If you want the sinking PRIOR to the UBR - the smack-on collision with
an absolutely TINY moored barge? - should you be asking for 1984?

Richard

rdup...@hotmail.com

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Jan 29, 2009, 11:10:26 AM1/29/09
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On Jan 29, 2:08 pm, Robin <robin_dickin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 29, 2:02 pm, Mike J <mike.jen...@vantisplc.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi
>
> > Apologies for taking up space here as a non-rower but I am trying to
> > source a clip of the Cambridge boat sinking prior to the University
> > Boat Race in 1979.
>
> > Cannot find it anywehere, not even YouTube!
>
> > If anyone either has this clip they could email as an Mpeg file - or
> > knows where I could either find it online or on a commercially
> > available DVD in the UK I would be eternally grateful.
>
> Boat Race 1978 was the sinking.
> If you're in the UK (probably) - go to the following link :
>
> http://www.itv.com/Sport/BoatRace/Features/Thatsinkingfeeling/default...

>
> you have to wait a few seconds for a pre-feature commercial but it
> then plays the footage showing Cambridge going down stern first
>
> Hope this helps.
> Robin

[wouldn't play for me, but that's life]
I recollect watching this on TV, in the same room as the man who now
represents me on the ARA Council. He gave an appreciative cry of "The
'Tabs are sinking" an amazingly long time before the BBC commentary
team noticed .....

Richard

Carl Douglas

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Jan 29, 2009, 5:25:25 PM1/29/09
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The ITV footage shows the boat going down by the stern, just as you'd
expect (less enclosed volume in the stern tank). When that happens with
none of those launches on hand to rescue you, and in the dead of winter
too, that's when it can get deadly. Just remove all those launches and
re-run that show........

IIRC, Cambridge's collision with that barge was actually with its
mooring line which, like the iceberg with Titanic, intercepted their
stately progress to the Boat Race start (Cambridge's, not Titanic's,
that is).

That minor mishap snapped the bow off a sectional eight which the
National Squad were the next week to borrow for a mainland European
training camp. In those days the ARA had only non-sectioned eights,
which they couldn't trail across the Continent. And in those days they
were still talking to us, because we hadn't yet questioned their
immaculate & perfect views on shell flotation, & they knew we were the
only people who would & could section an Empacher eight. So we got to
section their 1-piecer in unholy haste over the few days between the
crunch & their trip.

Funny how, in writing a bunch of lies to the Sports Minister, our mate
Gary Harris (Purveyor of Prize Porkies) had the inane cheek to claim
that we knew now't about eights. Mind you, was arrogant Gary yet out of
nappies (diapers in US-speak) in '84?

Cheers -
Carl

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Christopher Anton

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Jan 29, 2009, 6:48:21 PM1/29/09
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"Carl Douglas" <ca...@carldouglas.co.uk> wrote in message
news:6ueompF...@mid.individual.net...
> rdup...@hotmail.com wrote:

>
> Funny how, in writing a bunch of lies to the Sports Minister, our mate
> Gary Harris (Purveyor of Prize Porkies) had the inane cheek to claim that
> we knew now't about eights. Mind you, was arrogant Gary yet out of
> nappies (diapers in US-speak) in '84?
>
> Cheers -
> Carl
>

Well to be fair he was appearing at HRR in one of our sporadic appearances
there. Lost in the second round of the Wyfold to the eventual winners.


Robin

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Jan 30, 2009, 3:04:19 AM1/30/09
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Carl - and others,

critically, unless my eyes are very much deceiving me, the Cambridge
boat in that swamping is a Carbocraft - ie quasi identical to those
which I've been retrofitting with enclosed buoyancy here in Scotland.
I remember one quote from a few years ago that originally the CCs were
built with closed compartments like a Janousek is and then this ceased
after problems with enclosed humidity causing them to fail
structurally. Does anyone on RSR know if that was an enclosed boat (I
would guess probably not judging by how far down it went)? Hoping
this spring - 2 years after the retrofit - to finally be able to test
whether our boats will "adequately support their crew" - enough to
remain rowable when swamped rather than just obeying the cosmetic
details of the legislation if the weather warms up towards Easter -
the ongoing cold snap is playing havoc with workshop and other duties.

Robin

david.h...@aea.be

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Jan 30, 2009, 4:59:37 AM1/30/09
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On Jan 29, 5:10 pm, rdupa...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
> [wouldn't play for me, but that's life]
> I recollect watching this on TV, in the same room as the man who now
> represents me on the ARA Council. He gave an appreciative cry of "The
> 'Tabs are sinking" an amazingly long time before the BBC commentary
> team noticed .....
>
> Richard- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Custom in Mortlake Anglian at the time was to watch the Boat Race on
TV in the bar with the intention that if the race was close, you could
stroll down to the finish (of course they never were in those days).

On this particular occasion, I was the only one of the crowd to think
that there might be a close finish - I thought that Cambridge were
doing a decent job of clawing back their deficit at the water got
heavier - so I set off on my own to the finish, where I waited -
Oxford came by - and waited, and waited...

Needless to say I was subject to a few jeers and catcalls when I got
back to the bar.

vet...@hotmail.com

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Jan 30, 2009, 10:34:09 AM1/30/09
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I was in the Dove(s) that day, and needless to say saw more ESB than
rowing. I'd cycled there with my mate Julian (RIP), and been persuaded
by my Mum to let him use my bike, while I used my Sister's.

My bike was FAR too big for Julian, so what with that and the
excellent beer, he lost an argument with Chiswick Bridge on the way
back.

Our return home, with smashed up bike, bloody chin, and cries of 'who
won then ?' was met with a surprising lack of enthusiasm.

Happy days

Paul W

Robert Treharne Jones

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Jan 30, 2009, 11:24:38 AM1/30/09
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Don't forget the so-called Dolphin Effect performed by the Cambridge
crew as they went down, as described by Jim Railton, the Times rowing
correspondent and one-off BBC-TV commentator. No-one had heard of it
before he mentioned it, and no-one has heard of it since.

Robert

stamp...@yahoo.co.uk

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Feb 1, 2009, 9:51:35 AM2/1/09
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On Jan 31, 12:24 am, Robert Treharne Jones <tjwiz...@tiscali.co.uk>
wrote:

I know the Cambridge 7-man, lovely guy - Ali Jelfs. Lived in Hong Kong
for years and was a stalwart of the boat club, including boat master
hence kept our equipment shipshape. He was always a fan of
Janouseks...!!!! Looks today exactly as he did in 1978, including on
occasion the tremendous headband (for those who have seen the video).
Great rower too, even if he did go to the wrong university.

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