You know you're in trouble when the cox says ...
Jay Feenan
In article <331715...@mondas.demon.co.uk>, go...@mondas.demon.co.uk (Jo Gough) writes...
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>(3) Faster up the slide
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Ah, you mean time on the slide is time wasted...
-Jay Feenan
Daniel Martin
"Let it run <pause> in two"
"Hold Water All!!!"
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Jo Gough
Inspired by discussions on the Simpsons ....
You know you're in the S**t when you hear ...
(1) Keep going, they might catch a crab
(2) Just going through the umpire's wash
(3) Faster up the slide
(4) (with a hint of hope) They're not going away as fast now
(5) ...97,98,99 ...
(6) (On the way to the start), Is that OUR race going by ?
(7) You're going to lose, DO SOMETHING
(8) Pull with your hands (!)
(9) Heard after 20 pretty good strokes of a 25k steady state row ...
"that's good, one minute gone."
And, with probably the most disastrous effects of the lot,
(9) Give me another hard on
Yes, these are all for real.
Anyone know any better ones ?
Jo Gough
Internet mail: go...@mondas.demon.co.uk
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Shark
spoken nonchalantly by my coxswain, into her microphone...
10 minutes before the start of a race...
to a men's novice eight..
"I'm on the rag"
as you can imagine, i appreciated hearing that one, i think it really
enhanced the cox-stroke relationship we had going :P
shark
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Jo Gough (go...@mondas.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: Inspired by discussions on the Simpsons ....
r...@mame.mu.oz.au
This is a legendary call by a coxswain from Barwon Rowing Club, Victoria,
Australia half way through a close race:
"... and remember - Don't Get Tired..."
Gee thanks we'll remember that for later!
Or the one from the novice schoolgirls cox during one of their first hard
pieces in training:
"...come on, pull harder than you have ever pulled in your life before..."
Or the one from the otherwise experienced national coxswain:
"Mantlepeice, Mantlepeice, Mantlepeice"
Where is that on the boat?
Richard Wraith
Mercantile Rowing Club
Melbourne
Victoria, Australia
Captain Clayhead
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>My favourite motto:
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>A wet blade is a lazy blade!
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>(Bomb that slide, boys)
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>Chris B
'Time on the slide is time wasted'
Jjlucier
That there are certain things you just don't want to hear from your
coxswain's mouth. As a cox myself I have heard many phrases on the water.
Here are a few:
1. Let us focus on our technique now ( as you cross over the 500 meter
down mark).
2. Are we at full pressure?
3. Way enough, so that our three man can recover from his crab.
4. We are walking on the official's launch.
5. When does our race start?
And the ever popular: "you all are rowing like s****!!!!"
Hope you never use these in your racing career.
Jeff Lucier
George Mason University Crew
Bill Peden
rgw> Or the one from the novice schoolgirls cox during one of their
rgw> first hard pieces in training:
rgw> "...come on, pull harder than you have ever pulled in
rgw> your life before..."
Ha!
During a hard finish at the national championships in the lighty 8 (rgw
I believe was in there somewhere), our cox let out some real pearls of
wisdom:
"you are in the premiere position!"
- unfortunately we were actually 3/4 length down with 250m to go.
"numero uno!"
- still 3/4 length down, but this time at the finish!
Hard to believe, but the cox was selected in the national team, and
repeated his incredible performance at the Worlds that year.
Another time, during a race at the state championships, our young and
inexperienced cox made so many mistakes during the race that it all goes
blurry. Luckily for her we won, after trailing for 1500m (rgw I believe
led for 1500m - cheers Richard!). Here are some of the more respectable
of her offerings:
"What are you? Soft-cocks or something?"
"Drive me home!"
"My god! We're going to win!"
Coxes - you can't live with them, but you can't live without them!
Regards,
Bill.
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pe...@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Melbourne Uni Boat Club)
If there are llamas about, you must shout out: "Look out! There are llamas!"
Anne Bradley (Winsor S 96)
My teammates and I have a few friendly additions :
1. (head of the conn.) " I see the finish line guys, we're almost there"
2. (taking the weeks turn on the charles) "We're even with them guys, take a ten" power ten !
3. " is there a reason that noone takes this arch ?"
4. "okay, lets all get out and shove !"
5. "catch at the finish guys !"
6. Lets add a pause at the catch
7. "Don't forget to breathe !" (that was pretty likely)
8. "Stroke, you're coming in late"
9. "Where did that boat come from ?"
10. "but . . . ethan said that . . " (private joke)
Anne
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"I wholly disagree with what you say, but will defend to the
death your right to say it" - Voltaire
Kevin Waldick
2. (After a brutal crab) "Hey, where does three think he's
going?"
3. (After an exhausting piece) "Come on guy's, stroke it out."
Rachel Quarrell
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> Coxes - you can't live with them, but you can't live without them!
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> Regards,
> Bill.
Sorry Bill, but there are plenty of rowers and coaches who disagree.
That's why we (coxes) have to disguise ourselves cunningly as walking
toolkits, 'cos those you CAN'T live without.
Rachel.
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"In fact the gods were as puzzled by all this as the wizards were, but they were powerless to do anything and in any case were engaged in an eons-old battle with the Ice Giants, who had refused to return the lawnmower."
(TP, TLF).
Rachel Quarrell
abra...@k12.ucs.umass.edu (Anne Bradley (Winsor S 96)) wrote:
> 7. "Don't forget to breathe !" (that was pretty likely)
Sorry Anne - the rest was good, but I have to take issue with you here.
Back to the now-notorious bumps racing, in which we indulge twice a year
in my fair city. Everyone scrambling off a start headlong after one
another, in many cases the only exposure to competitive racing the oarsmen
and women have had. The record lowest number of strokes taken before
achieving a bump on the crew which started 1.5 lengths ahead is 14 that I
know about (presumably they backed down). Due to the HUGE amount of noise
on bank and water, and the general flurry plus wash sent down by the crews
in front, holding one's breath for the first few hundred metres is a
pretty common habit - unintentional of course. You can literally forget
to breathe (I certainly do when rowing it and only making the calls makes
me breathe as a cox). So your call might seem funny, but is quite often
the last thing a cox in a bumps race says before the gun. Getting past
your AT is one thing, but holding your breath for the first 1.25 mins at
39-42 quite another....
Rachel.
Oxford.
Charles E Ehrlich
Rachel Quarrell <quar...@vax.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>In article <1994Oct28.1...@k12.ucs.umass.edu>,
>abra...@k12.ucs.umass.edu (Anne Bradley (Winsor S 96)) wrote:
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>> 7. "Don't forget to breathe !" (that was pretty likely)
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>Sorry Anne - the rest was good, but I have to take issue with you here.
>Back to the now-notorious bumps racing, in which we indulge twice a year
>in my fair city. Everyone scrambling off a start headlong after one
>another, in many cases the only exposure to competitive racing the oarsmen
I agree with Rachel. I don't have much experience with bumps racing
(actually, from my experience here at Oxford I'm convinced it's absolutely
stupid, dangerous, and a waste of time, but that's another story), but this
breathing bit is equally important in standard 2000meter racing. When I got
to college, a much more experienced cox advised me to always remember to
get the rowers to breath at the right times. So, on his (quite useful)
advice, I took to reminding the crew to breathe as the starting commands were
being given (usually during the count-down if there was one, otherwise between
"Are you ready" and "ready all" - British-types will probably be unfamiliar
with the US starting sequence*). This is for exactly the reason Rachel
mentions. Also, it is important to get people to take a breath before major
pushes, particularly before the sprint when they shift into anaerobic. My
crews told me they found this effective, because otherwise they would forget
to breathe.
Keep breathing...
Charles Ehrlich
Wolfson College (Oxford)
*(for the benefit of the Brits, the American staring commands are:
"5. 4. 3. 2. 1. Are you ready? Ready all. Row!" The count-down from five
is optional and depends on conditions; I found it used quite often, though.)
Lungstrum Richard
attention is given generally to breathing and breathing
management. Back when I was younger only one coach I had
ever really addressed breathing in any very organized way,
and now I wonder to what extent breathing is an issue generally
left to the individual rowers to puzzle out. What's current
thinking on breath rate, timing and pressure these days?
RWL
RMRC
Boulder
tloughlin
Is it just me, or is anyone else amused by the names LUNGstrum and GASPER
at the Rocky Mountain (high altitude) Rowing Club?
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Tom
Robert Eikel
>In article <quarrell-311...@macnugget.dp.ox.ac.uk>,
>Rachel Quarrell <quar...@vax.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>>In article <1994Oct28.1...@k12.ucs.umass.edu>,
>>abra...@k12.ucs.umass.edu (Anne Bradley (Winsor S 96)) wrote:
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>>> 7. "Don't forget to breathe !" (that was pretty likely)
>>
Last year our cox would call the start "... half, three-quarters, full,
*breathe!*, one, two..." It was worthwhile. I have sometimes forgotten to
breathe for ten or twenty strokes at the beginning of a piece...
Robert
Bri
: Anne
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c'mon...couldn't you at least be original??? my coach told my boat that
one time, of course the coxswain was then obligated to say it too! ;)
but my personal favorite: (spoken matter-of-factly into the microphone
shortly before the start of a novice eights race in which i was the stroke)
"I'm on the rag..."
i think that did a lot to enhance the coxswain/stroke relationship!!!
Clyde W Voigtlander
Sorry, Charles--those aren't the "American" starting commands--
those are the quaint and curious starting commands retained by
a small eastern enclave of rowing (the same group bewails the
passing of the pterodactyl, and never rows more than 15 miles,
in fear of rowing off the end of the earth).
--
C.W. Voigtlander
ai...@freenet.carleton.ca 72143...@compuserve.com
Et clamor meus ad te veniat
Jonathan Moss
"Come on. Pull harder. You are making me look bad."
Paul Thomas
Well I disagree with Rachel :-) I think there are a couple of important
physiological points here...firstly, the first 45secs or so of the race are
largely anaerobic, your aerobic system usually switches on at around 45secs-
1minute, which is why it's important to drive the first minute of a race,
IMHO. Secondly, in rowing the lungs are not the limiting factor in the
respiratory process, as I understand it. Much more relevant is the ability
of muscles to exchange oxygen and remove lactic acid, heavy breathing makes
no difference to this---your blood is already well oxygenated after leaving the
lungs. You do breathe heavily after a race, but that is because you have an
oxygen debt to repay. The speed with which recovery occurs seems to depend
on the muscle efficiency rather than lung capability.
Another problem, of course, is that at the catch breathing is restricted
anyway. Coxes don't say 'shorten up and get a good breath in' do they :-)
Ok, ok I know rowers develop larger than average lung volumes, but I still
stick to my story, call me controversial etc :-)
'Stroke stroke stroke ---no.3 are you yawning? Remember to breathe please :-)'
Charles E Ehrlich
Heard this morning on the Isis from one of my crews
said by a cox in her first outing who otherwise did really well, but found
herself just left of center with a crew coming the other way
(nonchalantly): "Bow pair in. Go. Everyone look out. That's an eight
in front of us. Little more pressure, now."
Fortunately, no collision. But the crew seemed rather nervous, as was I.
Charles Ehrlich
Robert Eikel
Coach: "let's go at half slide."
Cox, whispering to stroke: "which half?"
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Rachel Quarrell
Charles, you're a bit of a bastard to post that about someone's first
outing. I bet you're sure she doesn't log on, or you wouldn't have done
it. I know if I'd read that from my coach posted in public after my first
outing I would have shrivelled and never coxed again. Even if she did
well (and I'm actually rather proud that one of our Oxford novices had
enough presence of mind to be calm - or nonchalant as you said), she's a
complete beginner and doesn't need public teasing to help her improve.
Actually this was going to be a private post, but looking again, it's
worth saying that surely RSR shouldn't be a forum for smug know-it-alls to
rip the mickey out of all and sundry. We should all remember that this is
becoming tantamount to writing your opinion in to a global newspaper, and
there are so many new users logging on every day that it is estimated the
entire planet could be on the Internet by 2003. [Not as far away as it
sounds.]
I know I hate the typical newbie posting "I'm a novice, tell me how to
row", since that should be fielded by the club the newbie has just joined,
but surely we should be careful what we find humour in.
Rachel.
p.s. Charles, don't take it personally - I'm sure you realise what I'm
on about. See you on the towpath on Sunday, if you're not at the 4HORR.
p.p.s. Humour = humor, for the merkins amongst us. hee hee.
--
"He could think in italics. Such people need watching.
Preferably from a safe distance."
(TP, M@A).
tloughlin
: outing. I bet you're sure she doesn't log on, or you wouldn't have done
: it. I know if I'd read that from my coach posted in public after my first
: outing I would have shrivelled and never coxed again. Even if she did
: well (and I'm actually rather proud that one of our Oxford novices had
: enough presence of mind to be calm - or nonchalant as you said), she's a
: complete beginner and doesn't need public teasing to help her improve.
Besides, Charles, there are those of us out here who remember some of
your rookie mistakes.
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Tom