US National Team Erg Scores -top16
KenWJohn
Open Men Nov 6K Dec 6K Jan 6K Feb6K
Elite: 20.00 or below; development: 21.00 or below
Jason Gailes 19.00 18.57 - 18.48
Greg Walker 19.15 19.11 - 19.03
Eric Mueller 20.15 19.22 - 19.17
Jamie Gordon 19.39 19.24 19.22 19.19
Tim Young 19.20 19.18 - 19.19
Brad Layton 20.08 19.32 - 19.20
Greg Lewis 19.28 19.19 - 19.21
Mark Berker - - - 19.23
Mike Wherley - 19.45 19.29 19.34
Ben Sell 19.34 19.41 19.57 19.34
Jordan Irving - - - 19.35
Charlie koven - - - 19.50
Steve Fiske - - - 19.52
Stephen George 20.16 19.58 20.16 19.52
Brendan Killory - - - 19.53
George Allen - - - 19.53
Lightweight Men Nov6K Dec 6K Jan 6K Feb 6K
elite: 21.00 or below; development: 22.00 or below
Thomas Auth 20.03 19.35 - 19.39
William Carlucci 20.31 20.00 - 19.41
KevinCotter 19.55 19.51 - 19.47
Chris Kerber 20.18 - - 19.49
Jeff Pfaendter 20.24 20.07 - 19.52
Joyn velyvis 20.35 20.10 - 19.55
Sean Kammann 20.05 19.48 - 19.55
Peter Stroble - 20.10 - 19.56
Eric Dn Besten - 20.12 20.06 19.56
Martin Schwartz 20.09 20.05 - 19.57
Mark Schneider - 20.16 - 19.58
Edward Grose 20.27 20.13 - 20.00
Tim Royalty 20.41 - 20.28 20.01
Edward Hewitt 20.13 - - 20.07
Conal Groom 19.13 18.28 - 20.07
Steve Peterson 20.37 20.35 - 20.09
Junior Men Nov20min Jan20min Feb6K
6K elite: 21.00 or below; development: 22.00 or below
Nov-Jan: 20 minutes; Feb. 6K
Sam Batchelor 5698 5819 5915 19.58
Bill Beck 5822 5940 5937 20.21
Doug VanCitters - - - 20.25
Angus Maclaurin 5516 5710 5792 20.43
Jim Thomas 5591 - - 20.51
Ben Yogel 5733 5810 5750 20.53
Jon Wallace 5567 5563 5737 20.58
Jeremian Mann - - 5617 20.58
Jim Delaney 5811 5750 5771 21.00
Lauge Sokol-Hessner 5536 5662 21.03
Josh Stibolt - - - 21.03
Matt Lee - 5607 5624 21.05
Karl Sudar - - 5692 21.05
David Caro-Greene 5562 5526 5616 21.12
Saul Zippen 5545 5606 5635 21.12
Jason Alcksak - 5340 5300 21.12
Open Women Nov6k Dec 6k Jan6k Feb6K
Elite: 22.00 or below; Development 23.30 or below
Ingrid Klich 21.49 21.45 21.38 21.34
Missy Schwen 22.20 22.07 21.53 21.40
Karen Kraft 23.09 22.04 21.59 21.50
Veronika Platzer - 22.33 - 21.54
Carol Skricki 22.55 22.33 22.06 21.59
Jennifer Jewett - - 22.11 22.05
Tristine Glick - 22.12 - 22.07
Wendy Wilbur 22.43 22.27 - 22.19
Jacque Stubbs - 22.30 22.20 22.23
Leslie Burns - 22.57 22.50 22.26
Kelly Salchow - 22.48 22.38 22.28
Elizabeth Dale 23.08 22.44 - 22.30
Shannon Woods 22.32 - 22.34 22.30
Karin Hughes 22.52 22.31 22.41 22.37
Beth melvin 22.46 22.39 - 22.40
Tania Alesi 22.54 22.38 22.49 22.44
Lightweight Women Nov68 Dec6K Jan6K Feb 6K
Elite: 22.30 or below; development: 24.45 or below
Shannon Woods 22.32 - 22.34 22.30
Lisa Carey 23.10 23.02 23.08 22.58
Kristine Karlson 23.10 - - 22.58
Kathryn Ackerman 23.24 23.08 - 22.59
Christine Smith 23.20 22.57 - 23.03
Elizabeth Gordon - - 23.15 23.04
Terry Paige 23.21 23.00 - 23.06
Grace mowery 23.05 23.00 - 23.11
kari Green - 23.04 -
23.11
Maury McCarthy - - -
23.12
Sheri Deeter 23.35 23.22 23.18 23.15
Suzanne Walther 23.28 23.34 23.18 23.15
Dana Remus 24.06 24.00 23.23 23.18
Clarissa Zylinski 23.11 - 23.02 23.19
andrea Bonaccorsi 23.59 23.26 23.29 23.22
Sarah Sansom - 23.45 23.27 23.25
Junior Women
Nov-Jan: 20 minutes; Feb : 6K Jan20min Feb6K
Elite: 24.00 or below; Development: 25.00 or below
Samantha Bomkamp 4727 - 4566 22.17
Christina Hillson 5067 5178 5211 23.09
Kate Johnson 5040 5056 5007 23.39
Nicole Rogers 4939 - 4958 23.47
Portia Johnson 4900 4968 5053 23.52
Therese Nygrer - - -
23.53
Stephanie Malliaris 5025 5034 4972 23.56
Melissa Torney - 5029 5045 23.59
Meghan Hintz 4900 4909 5033 24.04
Sera Coppolino 5309 - -
24.11
Kristin Bartholdson 4844 5060 5083 24.12
Acey Neel - 4759 4950
24.12
Kristin Graffe-Baker 4923 - - 24.13
Stefanie Sobotka - - -
24.17
Ashley Morse - 4927 5017
24.29
Whitney Webber 4955 4979 4995 24.30
Daniel Martin
>
> US Rowing National Team Results- February, Top 16
> elite: 21.00 or below; development: 22.00 or below
I gotta say it. Told you so!!!
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Ihan Kim
: KenWJohn wrote:
: >
: > US Rowing National Team Results- February, Top 16
:
: > Lightweight Men Nov6K Dec 6K Jan 6K Feb 6K
: > elite: 21.00 or below; development: 22.00 or below
: > Conal Groom 19.13 18.28 - 20.07
: Greed Greedier Reality Check!
==> w/ a pulled hamstring
(from a friend who was at that speed order)
: I gotta say it. Told you so!!!
Can _you_ pull anywhere close to that with a pulled hamstring?
I'm really getting sick of these egos on the net. Either live in a state of
denial, or realize that if you bust your ass enough, yes, that score _is_
possible.
ihan
amherst college ra
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Daniel Martin
> :
> : > Lightweight Men Nov6K Dec 6K Jan 6K Feb 6K
> : > elite: 21.00 or below; development: 22.00 or below
> : > Conal Groom 19.13 18.28 - 20.07
> : Greed Greedier Reality Check!
> ==> w/ a pulled hamstring
> (from a friend who was at that speed order)
> : I gotta say it. Told you so!!!
> Can _you_ pull anywhere close to that with a pulled hamstring?
> I'm really getting sick of these egos on the net. Either live in a state of
> denial, or realize that if you bust your ass enough, yes, that score _is_
> possible.
>
Funny how excuses start to come to the surface when the incrediable scores are not realized
in an open forum. So far we have -
He likes the model B better.
He was sick.
He has a pulled hamstring.
We'll have a new one during the next test. Hey, whatever happened to Erich?
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>> : >
>> : > US Rowing National Team Results- February, Top 16
>> :
>> : > Lightweight Men Nov6K Dec 6K Jan 6K Feb 6K
>> : > elite: 21.00 or below; development: 22.00 or below
>> : > Conal Groom 19.13 18.28 - 20.07
>> : Greed Greedier Reality Check!
>> ==> w/ a pulled hamstring
>> (from a friend who was at that speed order)
>> : I gotta say it. Told you so!!!
>> Can _you_ pull anywhere close to that with a pulled hamstring?
>> I'm really getting sick of these egos on the net. Either live in a state of
>> denial, or realize that if you bust your ass enough, yes, that score _is_
>> possible.
>>
>
>Funny how excuses start to come to the surface when the incrediable scores are not realized
>in an open forum. So far we have -
>
>He likes the model B better.
>He was sick.
>He has a pulled hamstring.
>
>We'll have a new one during the next test. Hey, whatever happened to Erich?
>
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I thought this one was dead and buried, so a Mega plea to the 'merkin
(and Canuck) cousins. Please shut up about these sodding boring erg
scores. I know you guys are all ice bound and therefore going through
some kind withdrawal for which you have my sympathy, BUT FOR F@~Ks SAKE
SHUT UP!!
Bottom line he who moves the BOAT fastest wins
Gidz
AK Sculler
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BJamieson
I was on the erg next to Conal when he pulled the 20:07, and it was not
at a speed order but at a training camp in San Diego. Conal pulled a 2000
meter erg at the beginning of a speed order in january, after he pulled a
hamstring doing the 500 meter test 60 minutes earlier. He was completely
healthy for the most recent 6k test, and in his own words, "just don't
understand- I had a bad piece" when asked about his inconsistent
performance.
I doubt I can add much new to this debate, but perhaps I can offer a new
perspective. I've been on the National Team (sculling) since 93 and have
a reasonable chance of making the team this year. I've seen a lot of
scores from a lot of different people, and pulled some decent scores
myself. I've always given Conal the benefit of the doubt, and will
continue to do so, even after watching him pull the 20:07. HOWEVER, I
think some people are failing to understand just how fishy the whole thing
is. The difference between conal's best score (18:28) and the most
current (20:07) is absolutely huge. This amounts to a difference in 500
meter splits of 8 seconds. FOr most people, this is the difference
between a full pressure 6k test and steady state (i.e. something you can
continue for hours.) If Conal were truly capable of pulling an 18:28, he
should be able to pull a 20:07, and then another, and then another, six or
ten times without stopping. Believe me, when Conal got off the erg he did
not look like a fellow who could go at that pace for another hour or so.
I happend to like Conal personally, and think that this whole thing kind
of sucks. I think the most likely explanation for the whole affair (and
probably the guy in Ohio as well) is that they found a "special" erg (they
do exist- I've seen them) which he learned to go to for his tests. It's
also possible that they learned to get the erg close to a wall, or timed
the rhythmn to the erg next to him. All of these things should be guarded
against by a coach.
Putting aside Conal for a minute, I'd like to say to anyone who might be
tempted to cheat on this sort of test that it belittles the efforts of the
scores of people out there who work incredibly hard to get good results on
the erg and on the water. More importantly, it gains you absolutely
nothing because you eventually have to prove yourself on the water, for
(as they say) "ergs don't float."
As far as Conal goes, I admit that it's a crazy world and anything is
possible, but until I see Conal come close to his best with my own eyes I
will remain...
forever skeptical-
Brian Jamieson
Tim Cullen
(BJamieson) wrote:
> I was on the erg next to Conal when he pulled the 20:07...and he was
> completely healthy for the most recent 6k test, and in his own words,
"just > don't understand- I had a bad piece" when asked about his
inconsistent
> performance.
I had heard he pulled the sub-19 min. pieces on a model B. If this is the
case, especailly if he had been training exclusively on the model B, it
was probably rather difficult to get anywhere near his earlier pace. It
is a hard adjustment to make, althought an 8sec./500m difference is too
big for this explanation alone. Also just out of curiosity, did he go out
too hard and die? Or did he just settle in at a slower pace?
tim
Sullys Maze
bjam...@aol.com (BJamieson) writes:
>
>Putting aside Conal for a minute, I'd like to say to anyone who might be
>tempted to cheat on this sort of test that it belittles the efforts of the
>scores of people out there who work incredibly hard to get good results on
>the erg and on the water. More importantly, it gains you absolutely
>nothing because you eventually have to prove yourself on the water, for
>(as they say) "ergs don't float."
Really, the only bad thing that happened over this 'controversy' is
some people were very guilty of not reading very well(very common on
the net, btw) and jumping to the defense of nobody who was attacked
(sic).
1. An announcement was made claiming a lightweight broke the world
record on an erg.
2. A few people were very SKEPTICAL, not claiming that anyone lied
or cheated, just that they would accept a record score on a
monitored erg - ie show me.
3. A few others became very defensive feeling the integrities of
indivduals or programs were being called into question.
4. There was a smattering of flames and some funning too.
BTW, since it hasn't been refuted, my wherry record still stands,
though now I can't remember what it was.... :^)
Mike
Michael Reed
>
> [ Stuff about Groom's erg score deleted ]
>
>I thought this one was dead and buried, so a Mega plea to the 'merkin
>(and Canuck) cousins. Please shut up about these sodding boring erg
>scores. I know you guys are all ice bound and therefore going through
>some kind withdrawal for which you have my sympathy, BUT FOR F@~Ks SAKE
>SHUT UP!!
>
>Gidz
>AK Sculler
>
>
>First Conferences Tel: +44 (0)171 404 0424
>85 Clerkenwell Road Fax: +44 (0)171 404 7733
>London EC1R 5AR. UK
If this isn't a new limit, I don't know what is!!
REALLY GIDZ, we'd all much rather be reading endless drivel about
"May Bumps", what the current condition of "The Stream" is, or the
tideway, or whatever you call it, or complete result listings for
every small boats head in Great Britain.
There should be post-censoring PARITY!! For example: We'll stop
talking about Groom's erg score, and we never hear the word "TORPIDS"
used again; If we also kill the thread "What's the best rate to erg
at", then you promise never to mention "Oxbridge" for the remainder of
your natural posting lives...
Here's your FORTUNE: Someone close to you knows how to use the "k"
command, kill files, or both.
MKR
N.Y.A.C. Rowing (but speaking for myself)
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>If this isn't a new limit, I don't know what is!!
>
>REALLY GIDZ, we'd all much rather be reading endless drivel about
>"May Bumps", what the current condition of "The Stream" is, or the
>tideway, or whatever you call it, or complete result listings for
>every small boats head in Great Britain.
>
>There should be post-censoring PARITY!! For example: We'll stop
>talking about Groom's erg score, and we never hear the word "TORPIDS"
>used again; If we also kill the thread "What's the best rate to erg
>at", then you promise never to mention "Oxbridge" for the remainder of
>your natural posting lives...
>
>
>Here's your FORTUNE: Someone close to you knows how to use the "k"
> command, kill files, or both.
>
>
>MKR
>N.Y.A.C. Rowing (but speaking for myself)
>
Now now Micheal, you have a point-ette, BUT at least our wibbles are
about REAL boats racing on REAL water in the REAL rain. Which
reminds me I saw the Cambridge squad on the tideway yesterday
and......
Gidz
AK Sculler (Not a girly dispite TTRC's insistance)
First Conferences Tel: +44 (0)171 404 0424
85 Clerkenwell Road Fax: +44 (0)171 404 7733
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Email: conf...@1stconf.co.uk
Michael Reed
In article <quarrell-040...@macnugget.dp.ox.ac.uk> Rachel writes:
>In article <4go4js$1...@zippy.cs.columbia.edu>, m-r...@news.cs.columbia.edu
>(Michael Reed) wrote:
>
>> In article <2...@1stconf.co.uk>,
>> > [ Stuff about Groom's erg score deleted ]
>> >I thought this one was dead and buried, so a Mega plea to the 'merkin
>> >(and Canuck) cousins. Please shut up about these sodding boring erg
>> >scores. I know you guys are all ice bound and therefore going through
>> >some kind withdrawal for which you have my sympathy, BUT FOR F@~Ks SAKE
>> >SHUT UP!!
>> > [ snip ]
>> >Gidz
>> >AK Sculler
>
>>
>> REALLY GIDZ, we'd all much rather be reading endless drivel about
>> "May Bumps", what the current condition of "The Stream" is, or the
>> tideway, or whatever you call it, or complete result listings for
>> every small boats head in Great Britain.
>>
>> There should be post-censoring PARITY!! For example: We'll stop
>> talking about Groom's erg score, and we never hear the word "TORPIDS"
>> used again; If we also kill the thread "What's the best rate to erg
>> at", then you promise never to mention "Oxbridge" for the remainder of
>> your natural posting lives...
>> MKR
>> N.Y.A.C. Rowing (but speaking for myself)
>
>response, so it will probably come out sounding dreadful.
Well, you got _that_ right at least.
>
>Michael how CAN you get so xenophobic(*) about the newsgroup?
Please note the following:
1) In my first paragraph, I responded negatively to someone who was
requesting to CURTAIL a thread. Somewhere in your rambling diatribe
you state that you feel the group should be more tolerant of
conflicting posts for the reasons of unecessary-group-splitting,
tolerance, etc. In other words you AGREE with me. HELLO?? I
assume you also mean that _humor_ should be permitted as well.
2) In the first AND second paragraphs, I soften the criticism
by making a J-O-K-E. This is a standard technique not only
in day-to-day interaction, but also in writing. How often
have you made a joke to someone in order to get across a point?
Often it's out of a desire not to hurt another's feelings, often
for other reasons. But it _does_ exist, and I expect (maybe
in todays world that's too much?) that the people on this board
are able to discern it.
Read it again. If you don't get it: go out,
buy a game of Clue, and play it a few times. If you read
the above and think it is an example of xenophobia, you are
not being "sensitive", but outright thick. Re-read the line about
"POST-CENSORING PARITY". That seems a completely serious
statement to you?
> [noise about the net, non-Americans, blah blah blah snipped]
Yes Yes yes. I'm fully embarrased when Americans (or in fact anyone)
act like they own the net, or felt that just because they invented the
technology behind it they have more of a right to post garbage.
Please get a grip. Go email GIDZ...he got it. I know he did because he
mailed me a reply in very much the same tone. LOOK AT HIS POSTING! He
immediately referenced the things I mentioned. I thought it was funny!
If you thought his was funny, but mine was not, well, that's your taste.
(No, I'm not going to accuse you of being a xenophobe bacause of it.)
[ Tons of assertions, arguments, etc. snipped]
I'm sorry I'm not going to pay as much attention to the rest of your
amusing little post. I'm sure if the assumptions it is based on, that
my post was xenophobic, indicative of American attitude,etc. etc.,
were true, it would be easier to sit through. And no, I won't do it
the service of paying attention to the arguments because they may be
true, even though they are based on a complete misunderstanding. How
do you expect to be taken seriously when you aren't able to understand
a simple post?
Please, if you just don't get it, assume I meant no harm to the other
side of the pond (ob anglo ref). I really wouldn't be able to stomach
another:
"No...but it goes to 11...you see??" (*1 See Reference!!)
> >Rachel
Michael
*1: DON'T FLAME!!! WAIT! Read this line again. If it doesn't
sound familiar, DON'T FLAME! If you aren't SURE you understood it,
and/or have some nagging feeling it deserves a response, DON'T FLAME!
Instead, watch the movie "Spinal Tap". If you still don't get it,
well, nothing's going to stop you from writing anyway. (*2 See
Reference!)
*2: WAIT!! Do not flame! If you feel *1 deserves a flame, go back
through January's postings. Look for my userid, and the reply list.
Read them. If you have done this, and STILL think that *1 deserves
a flame, well go ahead.
I will read no flame responses unless you can PROVE you've done BOTH by:
1) Naming the character in question from *1
2) Naming the character quoted in my article of *2 that, when
misunderstood, caused a flame that was completely unjustified (and
yet made inifinitely more sense than Ms. Quarrel(l)'s).
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>
> 1) In my first paragraph, I responded negatively to someone who was
> requesting to CURTAIL a thread. Somewhere in your rambling diatribe
> you state that you feel the group should be more tolerant of
> conflicting posts for the reasons of unecessary-group-splitting,
> tolerance, etc. In other words you AGREE with me. HELLO?? I
> assume you also mean that _humor_ should be permitted as well.
I didn't realize I was attempting to curtail free speech -I was just
bored
> 2) In the first AND second paragraphs, I soften the criticism
> by making a J-O-K-E. This is a standard technique not only
> in day-to-day interaction, but also in writing. How often
> have you made a joke to someone in order to get across a point?
> Often it's out of a desire not to hurt another's feelings, often
> for other reasons. But it _does_ exist, and I expect (maybe
> in todays world that's too much?) that the people on this board
> are able to discern it.
HA It takes more than that to hurt my feelings
> Read it again. If you don't get it: go out,
> buy a game of Clue, and play it a few times. If you read
> the above and think it is an example of xenophobia, you are
> not being "sensitive", but outright thick. Re-read the line about
> "POST-CENSORING PARITY". That seems a completely serious
> statement to you?
Umm I thought SALT was serious
Oh by the way Micheal since RQ has a Doctorate from Oxford
assertations of thickness are a tad silly
>Yes Yes yes. I'm fully embarrased when Americans (or in fact anyone)
>act like they own the net, or felt that just because they invented the
>technology behind it they have more of a right to post garbage.
Still they have a point Buuut on the other hand the Brits let people
use jet engines and for that matter row
>Please get a grip. Go email GIDZ...he got it. I know he did because he
>mailed me a reply in very much the same tone. LOOK AT HIS POSTING! He
>immediately referenced the things I mentioned. I thought it was funny!
>If you thought his was funny, but mine was not, well, that's your taste.
>(No, I'm not going to accuse you of being a xenophobe bacause of it.)
>
Yeah I thought mine was funny too I also thought yours was funny,
Mind you I think Pres Clinton attempts at the solving the Irish and
Balkan questions are downright hilarious
sorry I'm not going to pay as much attention to the rest of your
>amusing little post. I'm sure if the assumptions it is based on, that
>my post was xenophobic, indicative of American attitude,etc. etc.,
>were true, it would be easier to sit through. And no, I won't do it
>the service of paying attention to the arguments because they may be
>true, even though they are based on a complete misunderstanding. How
>do you expect to be taken seriously when you aren't able to understand
>a simple post?
>
>
>Please, if you just don't get it, assume I meant no harm to the other
>side of the pond (ob anglo ref). I really wouldn't be able to stomach
>another:
>
> "No...but it goes to 11...you see??" (*1 See Reference!!)
>
That's nothing mine goes to 12
Oh BTW Spinal tap was a rip off of a 60 minute episode of the Comic
strip called the Bad News tour.
"I could play Stairway to heaven whenI was 12 Jimmy Page didn't write
it till he was 23
Frankly gang I think this is all a bit out of control I'm amazed
that anyone actually reads the bollocks I write
And on that pointless posting
Gidz
AK Sculler (But currently undergoing a strange transmogrification
into the 2 seat of our boat for the 8's Head)
PS This is another small regatta we have over here that dosent attact
about 500 eights including many the finest national squads so it's
results aren't worthy of any consideration.
Bill Donegan
be National Team rowers in the USA. I suggest a news group called
rec.sport.rowing.erg.
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:
: Gidz
: AK Sculler (But currently undergoing a strange transmogrification
: into the 2 seat of our boat for the 8's Head)
: PS This is another small regatta we have over here that dosent attact
: about 500 eights including many the finest national squads so it's
420 maximum.
: results aren't worthy of any consideration.
David S.
confront the Merkin Question. I assure you that I am not being an
alarmist when I warn you that rec.sport.rowing is in the nascent stage
of a Merkin Intifada. Reproducing like some sort of virtual insects,
these filthy Merkins are threatening to completely overwhelm this
newsgroup with their bitter and twisted erg debates, their high school
rowing spitball fights, and their sleazy get-rich-quick boat-trailering
schemes. We must re-double our efforts to maintain a place on rsr for
those unquestionably fascinating and worthwhile reports of the stream
conditions on the Cam and Isis, and how they might affect the Torpids,
and other important Oxbridge news.
The Merkin Threat must be countered with determination, eternal
vigilance, and patient forbearnce of the day when we can finally
implement a Complete Solution of the Merkin Problem.
Thank you, and God Save the Queen.
Slobodan M.
PMckeon531
<dav...@ats.orst.edu> writes:
>The Merkin Threat must be countered with determination, eternal
>vigilance, and patient forbearnce of the day when we can finally
>implement a Complete Solution of the Merkin Problem.
>
>Thank you, and God Save the Queen.
>
>Slobodan M.
Sounds like we need some "ethnic cleansing".
-Pat
PMckeon531
>The Merkin Threat must be countered with determination, eternal
>vigilance, and patient forbearnce of the day when we can finally
>implement a Complete Solution of the Merkin Problem.
>
>Thank you, and God Save the Queen.
>
>Slobodan M
Sounds like we might need some "ethnic cleansing".
-Pat
Walter Martindale
>
>In article <4go4js$1...@zippy.cs.columbia.edu>, m-r...@news.cs.columbia.edu
>(Michael Reed) wrote:
>
>> In article <2...@1stconf.co.uk>,
>> > [ Stuff about Groom's erg score deleted ]
>> >I thought this one was dead and buried, so a Mega plea to the 'merkin
(my snip)
>> >some kind withdrawal for which you have my sympathy, BUT FOR F@~Ks SAKE
>> >SHUT UP!!
>> > [ snip ]
>> >Gidz
>> >AK Sculler
>
>> If this isn't a new limit, I don't know what is!!
>>
>> REALLY GIDZ, we'd all much rather be reading endless drivel about
>> "May Bumps", what the current condition of "The Stream" is, or the
>>
love that "snip"
>> MKR
>> N.Y.A.C. Rowing (but speaking for myself)
>
>I never thought I'd do this, but this is a rapidly-drafted and VERY ANGRY
>response, so it will probably come out sounding dreadful.
>
>Michael how CAN you get so xenophobic(*) about the newsgroup? Over the
>last two years I have watched non-Americans try to keep up their
(whew, major snip)
>
>Rachel the Random Punter.
>Campaign-to-broaden-RSR-1994-to-1996
>
>PS Gidz, 50 pence in the swearbox for you, my lad.
>PPS * (not an insult to the eminent Mr. Muller, honest)
>PPPS Actually, I _like_ the US-erg postings. I learn new insults from
>them every day.....
>
OOOh , Rachel got tres fache.
Hear, Hear.
Open Discussion,
Clear subject lines
Positive Attitude. I see a post about a head race in England or most
erg pulls in N.A., and I skip them. I don't get ticked that the posts are
there, since someone, somewhere went to the trouble to type the stuff
up, and someone, somewhere, might be interested. Live, Let Live.
If you don't wanna read it, skip it. Just keep yer blood pressure down.
Life's too short.
Walter "where's my spark plug wrench" Martindale
First Conferences
>
>: PS This is another small regatta we have over here that dosent attact
>: about 500 eights including many the finest national squads so it's
>
>420 maximum.
>
>: results aren't worthy of any consideration.
>
Jeez Mark so it's only 420 I guess that must make it a real non entity
see you tommorrow sur la Tideway
Gidz
First Conferences
This erging, trailering not interested in the stuff going on in the
the Mecca of the rowing universe thing is not without precedent.
Wasn't it one Geo.Washington Esq. who warned his fellow Merkins
against "becoming involved in foreign entanglements" - But then he
only cared about the state of the stream on the Potomac or the
Delaware.....
God save the Queen
Gidz (feeling historical)
late Lt. (pronounced LEFtenant) Grenadier Guards
AK Sculler