On the crokeroars.com website I have found a reference:
"For correct sculling grip size please refer to our Hand Size Chart."
However, I can't locate the chart itself. Can you help me to find it on
their website, or perhaps someone could send me a table of correct sizes?
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Thank you in advance,
Zibi Andruszkiewicz, Ormsund Roklub Oslo
images google search gives a more sophisticated version of the one I
was thinking of from a few years ago :
You are not going to have a lot of change by simply changing the grip
color as the Blue Grips are the thicker of the materials used by
Croker. You would be able to increase the size by putting an
underwrap on the handle before installing the grip itself. The Yellow
grips, are thinner and the Gray are a similar thickness (but are made
to fit a larger handle), Then there are the non-contoured Gray which
are slightly thicker yet, but would require an even larger handle size
to fit properly.
Since you already have the sizing chart, I wanted to add some
information that helped to get you the desired result and the chart
alone won't do that unless you are ordering new handles to go with the
new grips.
- Paul Smith
Aren't concepts like "correct size" or "correct rig" rather unreliable?
Shouldn't you use what you find, through trial & error, suits you
best? Hands, like people, are measured in more ways than overall size &
unsubtle hand-size charts can't possibly do justice to such variations.
One result is that some, despite large hands, like & do well with
smaller grips.
Cheers -
Carl
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I understand that chart is only for additional reference, that *feel* is
most important. For instance my wife has really small hands, she landed at
the bottom of pink zone, yet she likes blue grips. Actually, she said she'd
like to have bigger ones too! I blame it on her history of rowing for years
on sweep oars, so she is used to handle something of bigger diameter. ;))
Yes, I am positive that I need bigger size. I've got new oars two months ago
and I can't get used to them, it gets worse and worse. I keep getting
blisters in all weird places and still can't get a good grip of the oars.
On the chart my hands land in a grey zone which is reassuring.
Anyway... After obtaining the chart, i decided to contact Norwegian agent of
Croker. Accidentally today this person was in my area, on a "Rowing Stadion"
near Oslo where I do my training these days, so we met in person. I told
him to get me bigger grips. And he asked: which ones, GREY OR GREEN ones?
My first, initial idea was to get the green ones. Why? cause my trouble
with present grips is not only with their (too)small diameter, it's mostly
the contours of the grip, cause they do not fit between my fingers. If an
index finger gets right next to one contour, other fingers land in all
wrong places and while rowing constantly change their positions.
And green grips are 'smooth', no contours.
But, on the other hand... On the US website, green ones are not even
mentioned. And I started to browse through picture galleries from events
like World Cup, or Luzern, and I did not find even one single picture of
green grips (there were few of grey ones though). So I am having second
thoughts now... Maybe grey ones would be better?
I understand I need new handles of bigger diameter. So I would be free to
fix either grey or green ones on them, no prob. But I think I need piece of
advice, which ones to get?
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Yours Virtually,
Zibi Andruszkiewicz, Ormsund Roklub Oslo Norway
Perhaps Green is replacing the old "Smooth Grey" (no contours).
Having them both grey may have been a confusing issue. Just
speculation since I had not heard of the "green" Croker grip until
just reading your post. But if you don't like the contours, and the
speculation is correct, that may be just the right thing for you.
- Paul Smith
The green grip is shown on the website - it is the extra large smooth grip.
Thanks!
Click the Sculling Handles TAB. [:o)
Took me a while to find it, and there is still mention of the "Dark
Grey" Grip in other locations. Nice Green though, may have to get
some of those for my wooden blades, which have larger handles.
- Paul Smith
I tried both, and initially couldn't make my mind. So I fitted green on one
handle and grey on the other. After two outings like that I can say:
*personally* I prefer the green ones. It is not only the size. If only for
diameter, I would be happy with the grey ones. But the grey ones have these
contours, and they are not where I need them. This time the distance
between profiles is ok but the "mountains" are exactly where I would like
to have the "valleys", so I have to place my hand either too close or too
close to the tip of the oar.
And the green grips I just grab them and that's it. :) It feels pretty close
to the old orange Staempfli grips that I used for years...
So I decided on green ones. But again, this is my *personal* choice and I
believe it may be kind of extreme. For the record (and for googlers): the
palm of my hand at the base of the fingers is about 10,5 centimeters wide.
If anybody wanders how to change the grips on the handles:
On the Croker website they say "cut old grip away from the handle using a
stanley knife". That was not a valid option for me so I had to take them in
less brutal way. The Norwegian distributor of Croker oars advised me
to "roll them off" but that's pretty impossible cause the rubber is way too
stiff.
Finally I used a worn out screwdriver (with rounded off tip) and dishwasher
liquid. Inserting the screwdiver about half way inside the the grip I made
way for the detergent, in several places around the grip. Then, by pushing
the grip rather than pulling it away, and twisting it left and right and
left and right, the dishwasher liquid went even deeper and off it goes! :))
Again, thanks everybody for valuable input!
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yours virtually, Zibi
I tried both, and initially couldn't make my mind. So I fitted green on one
handle and grey on the other. After two outings like that I can say:
*personally* I prefer the green ones. It is not only the size. If only for
diameter, I would be happy with the grey ones. But the grey ones have these
contours, and they are not where I need them. This time the distance
between profiles is ok but the "mountains" are exactly where I would like
to have the "valleys", so I have to place my hand either too close or too
close to the tip of the oar.
And the green grips I just grab them and that's it. :) It feels pretty close
to the old orange Staempfli grips that I used for years...
So I decided on green ones. But again, this is my *personal* choice and I
believe it may be kind of extreme. For the record (and for googlers): the
palm of my hand at the base of the fingers is about 10,5 centimeters wide.
If anybody wonders how to change the grips on the handles:
On the Croker website they say "cut old grip away from the handle using a
stanley knife". That was not a valid option for me so I had to take them in
less brutal way. The Norwegian distributor of Croker oars advised me
to "roll them off" but that's pretty impossible cause the rubber is way too
stiff.
Finally I used a worn out screwdriver (with rounded off tip) and dishwasher
liquid. Inserting the screwdriver about half way inside the the grip I made
> If anybody wanders how to change the grips on the handles:
> On the Croker website they say "cut old grip away from the handle using a
> stanley knife". That was not a valid option for me so I had to take them
> in
> less brutal way. The Norwegian distributor of Croker oars advised me
> to "roll them off" but that's pretty impossible cause the rubber is way
> too
> stiff.
> Finally I used a worn out screwdriver (with rounded off tip) and
> dishwasher
> liquid. Inserting the screwdiver about half way inside the the grip I made
> way for the detergent, in several places around the grip. Then, by pushing
> the grip rather than pulling it away, and twisting it left and right and
> left and right, the dishwasher liquid went even deeper and off it goes!
> :))
>
> Again, thanks everybody for valuable input!
The easiest way to get them on or off without damage is to get a little
compressor, or go to a garage air hose, and put the nozzle into the hole in
the end of the grips. This will inflate them a bit and they can be floated
on or off.
ever thought about stamphfli grips? can you get those onto your
handles? they may not last as long as the rubber croker ones but the
are good and will 'mould' a bit to your hand
Easiest way I've found to take them off - any old sharp edged knife
(swiss army, paring, carving, workshop - doesn't matter)
Easiest way I've found to put them on... Hold a thumb over the little
hole in the end. Fill the handle with water - should be some water
around, even if it's in the river or lake. With the tip of the blade
protected by a towel (or an old t-shirt, or something), and resting
against the wall (at the floor), and with your thumb still holding
over the little hole in the grip, push the grip over the end of the
handle, and slide the grip on - the water will expand the rubber so it
will slide on - as it slides on the handle, the grip will also squirt
all the water out down the oar shaft. Not a good idea to take your
thumb off the hole until the handle is all the way on - you'll get
wetter that way.
Soap on the inside of a new sculling grip isn't a great idea - when it
gets wet, the grip's more likely to slip.
W