peinert v. vespoli
Leslie Partridge
Vespoli HVY 1Xs? I'm looking to buy a new shell after being off the
water for more than three years, and I'd appreciate any advice. I'll be
rowing mostly on the Kentucky River, which can get quite swift and
turbulent at times, so I need a fairly stable boat that I can beat some
old guys in head races with.
Daniel Cheung
wrong with either, they're both good reliable boats. I happened to buy a
Vespoli because one was available at the right price at the right time,
and I had rowed in one before (borrowed one for a week). I rowed a
club's Peinert 26 for about season and it was a good boat to row. The
Peinert is probably the more durable of the two, but the stock
footstretchers are a little weird for me; you might look into getting
the shoe style for the boat, if you get a Peinert.
Both are made by reputable boatbuilders and the choice will depend on
how they feel to you when you test-row the boat. Either would've been
fine with me.
Dan C.
Tom McGlinn
$100.00 Reward to the individual or boat club for information leading to the
recovery of the boat and apprehension of the thief !
The boat was stolen from a trailer load of all Maas boats coming to
Chesapeake Rowing, Rock Hall, MD from Maas Boat Company, Richmond, CA.
The incident occurred Thursday night 12/30/99 in the town of Winnemucca,
Nevada when the driver stopped at a Super 8 Motel for a three to four hour
rest. During that time the boat was removed from the lower rack of the
trailer. No clues were discovered at the site.
By it's loading position on the trailer, it is assumed to be a Maas Aero;
either all white or gray with teal border stripes on the decking. I will
have accurate description and serial number on Tuesday 1/4/00 when the Maas
offices re-open.
I am appealing to everyone in my broad data base since the boat by this time
could be most any place in the US or Canada.
If you hear of a new Maas in your area that could possibly be suspect, I
will appreciate any information you can provide. Information confidential to
authorities only.
Phone toll free: 800-400-7172
email: row...@dmv.com
Regards,
Tom
Tom McGlinn
Chesapeake Rowing
Leslie Partridge <lesliep...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:386E5EEE...@earthlink.net...
Cynthia Donnell
I have a P26 and really like it. Many of our club members have Peinert 1x's
and several of our members race them and have medaled in them. I haven't
rowed the Vespoli so I can give you only my assessment of the P26.
I'll call it as I see it.
Pros
The Peinert is bullet proof, stiff, stable, comfortable, fast and reasonably
priced.
Cons
Caution: My 'cons' may seem to outweigh the 'pros' but I'm simply trying to
be objective. I really love my boat.
The Peinert is not very adjustable. If it fits you it will be a wonderful
boat.
My seat tracks aren't adjustable so if for some reason you need to work
through the pin (and few people do) you won't be able to. The height of the
foot stretcher isn't adjustable. Because the rigger is one tubular unit
you can't easily adjust the height of the pins if you have heavy thighs,
rough water, are near the max weight for the boat, or gain weight.
Try out a Peinert and see how it fits. If your build requires it, John
Peinert is willing to adjust the rigger so the height above the seat will be
correct for you. The boat is available with an optional track shoe foot
stretcher and some adjustment of the height of the shoe on the stretcher
should be possible. Again - speak with Mr. Peinert. He's happy to
accommodate requests whenever possible.
I added a couple of extras to my boat which aren't on his list of options on
the web site but I highly recommend them to you. I had him add an
inspection port in the seat deck and a handle in the footwell at the upward
rise to the seat deck. By removing the port cover and using the port and
the handle it is extremely easy to get the boat off and on the racks, in and
out of the boat house and the water. The handle and port allow me to carry
the shell against my body without having to reach around the hull. I have a
more positive control of the hull in tight spaces, in the wind and at the
dock.
Good luck in your search. I like the Peinert. Perhaps you will too.
Cindy Donnell
VBC, Richmond, VA, USA
Leslie Partridge wrote in message <386E5EEE...@earthlink.net>...
Tom McGlinn
$100.00 Reward to the individual or boat club for information leading to the
recovery of the boat and apprehension of the thief !
The boat was stolen from a trailer load of all Maas boats coming to
Chesapeake Rowing, Rock Hall, MD from Maas Boat Company, Richmond, CA.
The incident occurred Thursday night 12/30/99 in the town of Winnemucca,
Nevada when the driver stopped at a Super 8 Motel for a three to four hour
rest. During that time the boat was removed from the lower rack of the
trailer. No clues were discovered at the site.
By it's loading position on the trailer, it is assumed to be a Maas Aero;
either all white or gray with teal border stripes on the decking. I will
have accurate description and serial number on Tuesday 1/4/00 when the Maas
offices re-open.
I am appealing to everyone in my broad data base since the boat by this time
could be most any place in the US or Canada.
If you hear of a new Maas in your area that could possibly be suspect, I
will appreciate any information you can provide. Information confidential
to authorities only. Other comments or thoughts welcome - email direct.
Phone toll free: 800-400-7172
email: row...@dmv.com
Regards,
Tom
Tom McGlinn
Chesapeake Rowing
P.S. Will appreciate those who will post this message on your club's
bulletin board.
GHP
Leslie Partridge wrote in message <386E5EEE...@earthlink.net>...
>Anyone out there have any experience with Peintert 26 and the new
>Vespoli HVY 1Xs? I'm looking to buy a new shell after being off the
>water for more than three years, and I'd appreciate any advice. I'll be
>rowing mostly on the Kentucky River, which can get quite swift and
>turbulent at times, so I need a fairly stable boat that I can beat some
>old guys in head races with.
I don't have all that much experience with Vespoli, but I have quite a bit
of experience with Peinert, and know Paul Milde pretty well. Our club has
5-6 older 26's some of which were prototypes (so I was told) and they're
still going strong since the 80's. We're sending them back for refurbishing
this winter (we use these boats as trainers) then they'll probably go for
another 10 years. I also bought a Dolphin open water shell from Peinert.
You might consider one of these if the water gets rough often. The Dolphin
is a little wider, but still moves along quite well. As the above person
mentioned, if you were to get a Peinert, do go for the running shoe
footstretcher; I never liked their stock footstretcher.
Paul Milde (the now owner of Peinert) absolutely stands being behind
anything he builds, and this is VERY important these days. Not only does he
stand behind anything he builds, he's very good to deal with and he's very
helpful. Dealing with Peinert is like dealing with an old time company.
No, I don't have anything invested in Peinert, I just believe in their
boats.
Hope this helps, and good luck with your picking up rowing again!
Cheers,
Gary
GHP
Cynthia Donnell wrote in message <84mgd9$6il$1...@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net>...
>Leslie,
>
>I have a P26 and really like it. Many of our club members have Peinert
1x's
>and several of our members race them and have medaled in them. I haven't
>rowed the Vespoli so I can give you only my assessment of the P26.
>I'll call it as I see it.
>
>Pros
>The Peinert is bullet proof, stiff, stable, comfortable, fast and
reasonably
>priced.
>
>Cons
>Caution: My 'cons' may seem to outweigh the 'pros' but I'm simply trying to
>be objective. I really love my boat.
>
>The Peinert is not very adjustable. If it fits you it will be a wonderful
>boat.
>My seat tracks aren't adjustable so if for some reason you need to work
>through the pin (and few people do) you won't be able to. The height of
the
>foot stretcher isn't adjustable. Because the rigger is one tubular unit
>you can't easily adjust the height of the pins if you have heavy thighs,
>rough water, are near the max weight for the boat, or gain weight.
>
Cynthia,
I don't know how old your boat is, but I think the tracks in Peinert's are
now adjustable...I know the ones in my dolphin are. As far as the rigger,
if there is a problem with it, just send it to Paul and tell him what you
want. He can adjust it by bending it slightly. I do agree that this is one
of the weaker points of a Peinert =but= it's also one of the strong points
in another light, they're not very complex so therefor the average joe isn't
going to mess it up too much. As far as the boat being bullet proof, you're
just about correct. We (The Narragansett Boat Club, www.rownbc.org ) have a
three Dolphins in addition to the 6 older 26's. These Dolphin's are used
for in-between boats, between the wherry and the trainer. Needless to say,
they get hammered from so much use. I've seen one of them get caught in a
Dolphin (a bunch of wooden pilings driven in the riverbed which protect
boathouses and bridges) and twist around...any other boat would have broken
off!
>Try out a Peinert and see how it fits. If your build requires it, John
>Peinert is willing to adjust the rigger so the height above the seat will
be
>correct for you. The boat is available with an optional track shoe foot
>stretcher and some adjustment of the height of the shoe on the stretcher
>should be possible. Again - speak with Mr. Peinert. He's happy to
>accommodate requests whenever possible.
John Peinert is basically not involved in the company much anymore, Paul
Milde now owns the business. Paul is one of the nicest guys out there.
When I wanted an open water shell for my place on Cape Cod, it was between
Maas and Peinert. Maas may be good, but he's 3000 miles away, Peinert is
30-40 miles from my house =and= *right* on the way to the cape! Of course
the main reason for buying the Peinert was because the cost/quality issue.
The boat is reasonably priced and is of high quality. You can check them
out by going to www.sculling.com everything will be explained there.
>
>I added a couple of extras to my boat which aren't on his list of options
on
>the web site but I highly recommend them to you. I had him add an
>inspection port in the seat deck and a handle in the footwell at the upward
>rise to the seat deck. By removing the port cover and using the port and
>the handle it is extremely easy to get the boat off and on the racks, in
and
>out of the boat house and the water. The handle and port allow me to carry
>the shell against my body without having to reach around the hull. I have
a
>more positive control of the hull in tight spaces, in the wind and at the
>dock.
Yes all important extra's. Since I'm on Cape Cod Bay, it gets pretty rough,
especially when those big whale watch and ferries go by; I had a auto bailer
installed. This unit works GREAT and I've had to use it a few times, once
on the Seekonk River (the river our club rows on.)
Good luck in your search, but I think you'd do well to get a Peinert. As
I've said before, I have nothing invested in Peinert, I just believe in Paul
Milde and in the boat!
Cheers!
Gary