Carl Douglas Single, competitive?
Jonathan Moss
like a durable boat and well crafted. But there aren't many being
raced around the U.S.
Does anyone have any input on whether these singles are competitive
with the singles manufactured by Hudson, Filippi and Empacher?
Thanks, Jonathan
Shashi Buluswar
: I am exploring options for buying a single. The Carl Douglas seems
: Thanks, Jonathan
I've rowed one of these before, and they're good boats. Former world
ltwt 1x champ ('90?), Franz Gobel of the Netherlands won the title in a
Douglas.
Hope that's helpful. Cheers...
-- Shashi
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Otto Koppius
>: I am exploring options for buying a single. The Carl Douglas seems
>: like a durable boat and well crafted. But there aren't many being
>: raced around the U.S.
>
>: Does anyone have any input on whether these singles are competitive
>: with the singles manufactured by Hudson, Filippi and Empacher?
>
>: Thanks, Jonathan
IMO, a Douglas is a more elegant boat than the Empacher, but that also makes
it more difficult to row in in bad weather than an Empacher. A Douglas isn't
difficult to row in, but to get it *really* running well is more difficult
than with an Empacher. Both types are top boats.
They are very durable : I even know of a case when a Douglas single
fell down 3 meters from a boat trailer with only some scratches, nothing
broken or anything. I don't know anything about Hudson or Filippi.
I don't know about prices in the US, but here in Holland an Empacher single
costs about 14.000 HFL, while a Douglas costs only a little over 10.000 HFL.
Regards,
Otto Koppius
Jos Vaassen
I am a rower in the Netherlands, Europe. In our country most of the best rowers
row in Empacher or Carl Douglas shells. In our club we now have a 5 and a three
year old Carl Douglas single scull. My meaning is that they are very fine
boat, have low weight and are very very strong. Besides they are much more
beautiful than the Yellow Empachers. In Europe most of the used single sculls
are Empacher, second place I think are Carl Douglas. They together fill the top
the the rankings. I know Filippi, they are good boats as well, but don't have a
name like Empacher or Carl Douglas. I've never heard of Hudson (American brand
?).
My opinion is that a Carl Douglas racing shell may last a little longer than an
Empacher because it's mostly a woorden boot, strengthened by kevlar. The
Empacher boats deteriorate in sunlight, and do not remain stiff as long as a
CD-shell does.
Well, I hope you know a little bit more know,
Greetings
Simon
>: Jonathan Moss (jem...@bu.edu) wrote:
>: : I am exploring options for buying a single. The Carl Douglas seems
>: : like a durable boat and well crafted. But there aren't many being
>: : raced around the U.S.
>
>: : Does anyone have any input on whether these singles are competitive
>: : with the singles manufactured by Hudson, Filippi and Empacher?
>
>: : Thanks, Jonathan
>
>
>why some people are so happy about those boats. They are ugly plywood
>boats. To difficult to row compared to other boats.
>
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Ugly Plywood boats! I thinks this chap must have spent to long
looking at the yellow plastic to recognise the work of a
cratsman. I've visted Carls workshop, his boats are built to the
highest quality and workmanship, and ar objects of beauty. As for
competitive there are enough top scullers in the world using them
to proove the point. Durable they certainly are, I've seen
enough 10yr olds + that are still fine quality boats.
Cheers
Simon
Maidenhead Rowing Club
Paul Pattenden
>>why some people are so happy about those boats. They are ugly plywood
>>boats. To difficult to row compared to other boats.
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>>Roomweg 216 http://wit379402.student.utwente.nl/midge.co/
>>7523 BV Enschede
>>+31-53-329253 troo...@jjt.iaf.nl
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>
> Ugly Plywood boats! I thinks this chap must have spent to long
> looking at the yellow plastic to recognise the work of a
> cratsman. I've visted Carls workshop, his boats are built to the
> highest quality and workmanship, and ar objects of beauty. As for
> competitive there are enough top scullers in the world using them
> to proove the point. Durable they certainly are, I've seen
> enough 10yr olds + that are still fine quality boats.
>
> Cheers
>
> Simon
>
> Maidenhead Rowing Club
>
> 10055...@copmuserv.com
Yes indeed,
Wooden they are, ugly certainly not. Maybe Joris should buy one and paint it
yellow to make it go faster.. although that would be a real shame as they are
really very nice boats 'in the raw'. Difficult to row? I've no idea, although
those people who have the necessary skill seem to manage the leap from Empacher
to Carl Douglas...
It's true though, nothing beats an Empacher, they really are the most expensive
boats in the world.
PP
AP_...@crystal.king.ac.uk
"Beautiful wood beats grotty plastic" concept ( despite losing to a
Burgarshell by a long way at Henley T&V on Saturday ). At Walton we have
many Carl Douglas, one of which is 17 years old and still looks as good
as new despite having undergone some serious repairs.
His current boats have a kevlar layer on the inside of the characteristic
wood veneer which combines the strength of the plastic with the looks of
the wood.
I almost colapsed with shock when walking round the Row Show at the Nat
Champs and saw Carl proudly displaying the latest addition to his range,
an ugly looking white plastic single scull.
Mike Everington
Walton R.C.
Amy Abbot
boats, but in defense of "plastic"....
Ron Owen in Oregon still stays true to the fine art of craftsmanship when
he builds his boats, whether fiber or wood. His wood boats are a
pleasure, but both his fiberglass and kevlar/carbon boats are all done
with a masters touch. Inlaid wood cockpits, strong and attractive wood
ribs and struts. With my single, the deck is made of sheer dacron which
provides and etherial view of the inner strutwork.
Plastic does not have to mean clunky and disposable.
Amy Abbot
seaw...@u.washington.edu
KEVIN KEITH
: yellow to make it go faster.. although that would be a real shame as they are
: really very nice boats 'in the raw'. Difficult to row? I've no idea, although
: those people who have the necessary skill seem to manage the leap from Empacher
: to Carl Douglas...
: It's true though, nothing beats an Empacher, they really are the most expensive
: boats in the world.
: PP
Everyone is talking about what an excellent boat an Empacher, or Carl
Douglas single is. For those who have rowed them, how does Van Dusen
(hope I spelled it right) compare with the top boats in the world. With
the way the exchange is in Canada, they would be the most expensive
single to purchase.
--
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