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wi...@acm.org

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May 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/15/00
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Are there any deaf rowers out there. I recently
lost all of my hearing (wore a hearing aid most of
my life)

I am learning rowing and it is a lot of fun. There
must be some deaf rowers out there who know of
some hand signals that the coaches/coxswains can
use?

Please let me know if you have some info, thanks!
Bowden
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Philip Barton

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May 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/15/00
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Most of the (male) rowers I ever coxed/coached never listened anyway!! In
big boats (eights) without coxboxes, we sometimes used pre-arranged signals
by banging the side of the boat... (ie/ Power ten / take it home etc...)

Regards,

Phil.

Walter Martindale

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May 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/16/00
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Hi,
We had a couple of junior women who were deaf.
I found that they were quite switched on when it came to feeling pressure
changes and knew what to do and when to do it.
Get your coach to use a whiteboard onshore for tech stuff that you need to
work on ahead of practise, and some basic sign language from "signed
english" or American Sign Language (I personally don't know the diff) such
as STOP, GO, "Slow the Slide", and a few other basics (Yes, no, good,
better, slower) and make sure that race officials use visual as well as
audible signals to indicate race starts and course steering instructions.
One of the young women we worked with races singles, occasionally, and
coped well - she'd been deaf all her life.
Walter

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Adriaan Koster

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May 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/16/00
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Juri Jaanson is deaf, and he is an elite single sculler. Just saw him in
action at Ghent, winning very, very easily.

Just think about rowing in a single and being deaf, it would scare the shit
out of me. I can imaging a picture of me rowing straight at a waterfall, a
huge oil tanker or the Loch Ness monster, with people on the shore shouting
and waving like crazy trying to attract my attention...

Recently I tried sculling a lane with my eyes closed (you've got to try
everything don't you...) Now THAT's really scary.

A3aan.


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John Mulholland

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May 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/16/00
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Does anyone make a communication system based on, for example, model
aircraft radio control equipment to operate warning lights on the boat?

John Mulholland
Hexham Rowing Club

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> Just think about rowing in a single and being deaf, it would scare the
shit
> out of me. I can imaging a picture of me rowing straight at a waterfall, a
> huge oil tanker or the Loch Ness monster, with people on the shore
shouting
> and waving like crazy trying to attract my attention...

> snip >


Nick Suess

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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Philip Barton <philip.b...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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As one of the male rowers Phil has coxed, I can vouch for the authenticity
of that first statement.

But I suffer from a fair measure of industrial hearing loss, and since I
usually row in the bow seat, I can never hear what any cox is saying,
especially a cox as shrill as Phil. So I generally think, "who cares?"

And now for something completely different, which is blind rowers. I've seen
them take part in various categories of disabled rowing, and I am inclined
to speculate whether they really are disadvantaged other than being unable
to row in a 1x. Any response to this politically incorrect notion?

chris harrison

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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Nick Suess wrote:
> And now for something completely different, which is blind rowers. I've seen
> them take part in various categories of disabled rowing, and I am inclined
> to speculate whether they really are disadvantaged other than being unable
> to row in a 1x. Any response to this politically incorrect notion?

I've rowed with a few partially sighted folks (covering a reasonable
range of possible definitions) - including loads of glasses-wearing
people who don't row with their specs on and are, for all intents and
purposes, endowed with bat-like non-sigh. AFAICT it's made little or no
difference to their rowing, the coaches need to be more inventive when
outlining faults, ie. describing them accurately rather than performing
the correct technique, but that's not a major biggie.

I'd imagine deaf athletes to have more of a problem, but neither is
insurmountable.

--
chris harrison.
ic-parc, william penney laboratory, imperial college, london, sw7 2az.
(Work) http://www.icparc.ic.ac.uk/~cah1/
(Rest) http://www.lowfield.co.uk/
(Play) http://www.vesta.rowing.org.uk/

Katriona Cameron MCS1997

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May 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/22/00
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There was a blind crew that won the corporate challenge race done in
Aberdeen a year or two ago, much to everyone's surprise, and there was
quite a lot of press about it at the time if you want to know more (I
think the Aberdeen site has not got the report any more unfortunately
and nor has SARA since they've updated their sites relatively recently)

Katy

GHP

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May 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/22/00
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Hi,

At our club, one of the drills we do when coaching in the sweep training
barge is the eyes closed drill. It's astonishing, but when you get people
to
relax and *listen* to what's going on around them, they do pretty well,
sometimes going as long as 2 minutes without an oar touching another oar. I
like to see people with disabilities competing and doing well!


Cheers,

Gary Phillips

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tom condon

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Jun 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/13/00
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I once volunteered to teach rowing at an regatta in Baltimore Md. The
first guy to step up was blind, as happens he tought me a lot about life
and disability. He got in the boat easily and of course rowed as well
as any novice could and his lack of vision was no handicap as a #2. He
followed me as well as anyone could; and seemed to have gifts in other
senses like balance and feel of motion in the boat. Of course he left
me dumbfounded at the time.

Tom

Christopher Anton

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Jun 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/13/00
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In my experience as a cox all bow rowers are deaf :)


Mark Reid

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Jun 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/14/00
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> In my experience as a cox all bow rowers are deaf :)
>
>

>Pardon

Jon Bond

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Jun 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/15/00
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Hehehe, yep. =P I think you're right!

Jon "Commander" Bond

Adriaan Koster

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Jun 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/15/00
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Maybe you should reconsider your verbal repertoire. After several weeks of
the same old phrases we all tend to filter the coxswain-typical frequencies
out as background noise. A bit like the tribesmen that live besides a
waterfall all their lives and don't hear the sound anymore.

A3aan.

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Jeremy Fagan

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"Adriaan Koster" <adr...@icto.vu.nl> wrote in message
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> Maybe you should reconsider your verbal repertoire. After several weeks of
> the same old phrases we all tend to filter the coxswain-typical
frequencies
> out as background noise. A bit like the tribesmen that live besides a
> waterfall all their lives and don't hear the sound anymore.

Or people who grow up next to the motorway, and can't sleep when they move
away...

Jon Bond

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Jun 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/15/00
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Erm, you've never been a cox, have you? =P

Its mostly things like "take a stroke" that he misses... he's fine during
pieces, and sprints and stuff, and listens to what I say otherwise. He just
lacks... er.. lets call it "focus" =P

ask another cox, and s/he'll understand what I mean =P

Jon "Commander" Bond


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> Maybe you should reconsider your verbal repertoire. After several weeks of
> the same old phrases we all tend to filter the coxswain-typical
frequencies
> out as background noise. A bit like the tribesmen that live besides a
> waterfall all their lives and don't hear the sound anymore.
>

jr144

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Jun 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/17/00
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In my experience as rower, most coxswains are blind ;)

Andy Coniglio

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Jul 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/1/00
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this one is both. haven't you seen me in a single?

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