I need a stroke rate meter
Mike De Petris
simple watches that attach on the oar and work well enough, is there
anybody of you that can please address me to a vendor?
Steven M-M
Zbigniew A.
Do you know one that "works well enough"? PLEASE TELL ME MORE! :)
I've got NK Cadence T1
http://www.nkhome.com/support/instructions/cadence.html
But I do not recommend it, not at all!
As far as I can see from NK's website it is out of production and they do
not make other product of this type.
I don't know, maybe I am simply unlucky, for for me it does not work well.
Or maybe it's vibrations from my ultralight Croker oars.
At the lower pace, say 20-24 it works OK. But at the higher pace -- and
that's exactly when I need precise readings! -- it shows all kind of random
numbers, except my current rate. :( Sometimes I need to look up 3-4-5 times
before I get proper reading. And I need to know my cadence at least roughly
to know whether this reading is correct or not!
Plus, looking up the object that is on a side and constantly moving requires
so much effort that sometimes throws me out of balance.
The other day I made a 500m timed piece and I wasn't able to get my cadence
even once.
BTW is anyone around here who has Active Tools Rate Meter? Does it work
well?
http://www.active-tools.com/rowing-rate-meters.aspx
(one has to choose a UK or North America location, otherwise it says "The
new Active Tools Rate Meters are currently only available to UK, USA and
Canadian customers")
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Yours Virtually, Zibi
Mike De Petris
thank you, just to let you know:
"The new Active Tools Rate Meters are currently only available to UK,
USA and Canadian customers.
Many apologies for this but they will be available in other countries
before the end of the year."
Henning Lippke
> thank you, just to let you know:
> "The new Active Tools Rate Meters are currently only available to UK,
> USA and Canadian customers.
> Many apologies for this but they will be available in other countries
> before the end of the year."
Mike,
the developer (John Ewans) of the Active-Time rate meter has posted here
before, send him an email and you can get yours to Italy. I ordered mine
in the same way.
BTW, it works quite nice. The suction bracket is not very strong, so you
should secure the device with the lanyard if you don't use the stretcher
bracket.
Mike De Petris
google groups search do not work at the moment, can you help me find
his email address or should I write to active-tools.com ?
thank you Henning, it may be less practical to move between boats but
seems much better to read!
Alexander Lindsay
"Mike De Petris" <mikede...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:187b5971-2d02-4c26...@v2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>I need a ratemeter that can be used on any boat, I know there are
> simple watches that attach on the oar and work well enough, is there
> anybody of you that can please address me to a vendor?
>
I have used a Nielsen Kellerman Cadence Rowing Watch for rowing (sweep
only). I cannot recommend it. It works on an internal tilt switch which
senses the squaring of the blade. The problem is that if the blade touches
the water on the way forward, it takes the impact (even if light) as
indication of a new stroke. So, except on smooth water, and with a well
balanced crew, it is often showing the wrong reading. It then needs two or
three clean strokes to sort itself out. In rough conditions it is useless.
Nice idea, but not very practical.
Alexander Lindsay
mruscoe
I've found that the suction bracket works pretty well if you wet the
surface first, and then press the bracket down for long enough to allow
all the trapped air to bubble out from underneath. I still use the
lanyard though, just in case.
Mike De Petris
DONE, thank you
John E
> > > > USA and Canadian customers.
> > > > Many apologies for this but they will be available in other countries
> > > > before the end of the year."
Just to say that while the Active Tools website does imply that we are
only shipping to certain countries this is no longer true. We are
currently doing a new website that will feature, among other things,
our new adjustable length (US 10-15) and washable rowing shoes.
Mike has already ordered his unit but if anyone else who is not in the
UK, US or Canada wants to buy an ActiveRate or ActiveTime just log on
as a UK customer and then select the country you want us to ship to on
the Checkout page (or contact Karon of New Wave if you are in Germany).
Charles Carroll
I think you made the right decision.
I have both the ActiveTime and the Cadence, and prefer the ActiveTime
because it is easier to read and is more accurate.
In fairness to the Cadence I think I should point out that mine is one of
the older models. I understand there was a problem with this model, a faulty
algorithm I believe, that went undetected for years. The problem has now
been fixed, and the newer models are supposedly more accurate and reliable.
In any event, enjoy your ActiveTime. I have a friend who keeps his in
CHECKFACTOR mode and is utterly convinced that it has helped him control his
momentum on the recovery and has resulted in his becoming a smoother, faster
sculler.
Of course then there is always Bill Atkinson. Remember last October when he
wrote:
"Insofar as the rower's momentum in relation to the boat is concerned it is
my conclusion that nothing the rower can do, one way or another, on the
slide can change the average velocity of the center-of-mass of the system .
. . Hands fast away, hands slow away, easy onto backstops, hard onto
backstops; nothing the rower can do in his style of momentum exchange on the
slide can affect the average speed of the center-of-mass of his system. Best
to let nature take its course and to do what feels most natural at a given
rating and in synchrony with fellow boat mates."
I know Walter and Carl, if you read this - less agony and more ecstasy! And
I am trying. I really am. But I still find these discussions fascinating.
And besides, when is it ever agony to be relieved of the burden of
ignorance?
Cordially,
Charles
Stelph
from one boat to another and has laways been very accurate on the
rate.
On Aug 21, 1:32 am, "Charles Carroll" <charles_carr...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> In any event, enjoy your ActiveTime. I have a friend who keeps his in
> CHECKFACTOR mode and is utterly convinced that it has helped him control his
> momentum on the recovery and has resulted in his becoming a smoother, faster
> sculler.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Charles
I also use my ActiveTime almost constantly on the check setting when I
am out sculling since I tend to think the less check I can produce,
the less energy I have "wasted". :-)
d...@rock-the-boat.co.uk
> Another vote for the active-tools ratemeter, its so simple to move
> from one boat to another and has laways been very accurate on the
> rate.
and the best bit of all is that John is a good egg and both he and his
sons row and compete regularly so he knows what is needed and why and
how to use it and improve it. The new shoes looked v interesting at
Nat Champs ...
Steven M-M
Steven M-M
rab...@gmail.com
Rebecca Caroe
We used to sell them as an agent and there is no customer support from the manufacturer, no phone number and he owes us $.
We de-listed all Cadences 2 years ago.
Stay away from that brand.