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Henry Law

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Apr 7, 2011, 12:17:23 PM4/7/11
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I'm drafting our trailing policy, taking account of British Rowing's
effusions on the subject, which include "Ensure that information
regarding the Maximum Allowed Mass (MAM) is fixed to the trailer", so I
looked at our trailer. It's of a German make (Knott) and the plate
which gives the details is in German, of course. I do have some of that
language, but it doesn't extend to abbreviations on a technical subject.
Can someone help? (Henning?)

I want to find the MAM. The relevant parts of the Knott label seem to be:

Zul. gesamtmasse c+s 1300Kg bis 2000Kg
Zul. Stützlast 100Kg

I can get "gesamtmasse" -- combined mass -- but the abbreviated word
"Zul." and the initials "c + s" escape me. Presumably they answer my
other question: why do they quote a range ("bis") for the gesamtmasse,
when a single not-to-exceed figure would be expected?

"Stützlast" I looked up -- maximum load on the hitch.

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Henry Law Manchester, England

Walter Martindale

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Apr 7, 2011, 1:37:20 PM4/7/11
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I copied your line into a google search and got zulassigen (with an
umlaut over the a), and zullassigen gesamtmasse seems to mean gross
vehicle weight.

The initials c+s may have something to do with license classifications
and/or whether or not there are passengers but I'm out of my depth on
that one.

Henry Law

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Apr 7, 2011, 2:15:22 PM4/7/11
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On 07/04/11 18:37, Walter Martindale wrote:
> I copied your line into a google search and got zulassigen (with an
> umlaut over the a), and zullassigen gesamtmasse seems to mean gross
> vehicle weight.

I am an ace Googler but I never thought of that!

Henning Lippke

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Apr 7, 2011, 4:15:36 PM4/7/11
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Hi Henry,

Am 07.04.2011 18:17, schrieb Henry Law:
> regarding the Maximum Allowed Mass (MAM) is fixed to the trailer", so I

> I want to find the MAM. The relevant parts of the Knott label seem to be:

> Zul. gesamtmasse c+s 1300Kg bis 2000Kg
> Zul. Stützlast 100Kg

Zul. means zulässig, which would translate as maximum allowed.
Gesamtmasse is combined mass, which would be the combined mass of
trailer and load.

I don't know what c+s means.

Can you find the empty mass of the trailer? Is 1300 the empty weight, so
that ypu can load up to 700 kg?

> I can get "gesamtmasse" -- combined mass -- but the abbreviated word
> "Zul." and the initials "c + s" escape me. Presumably they answer my
> other question: why do they quote a range ("bis") for the gesamtmasse,
> when a single not-to-exceed figure would be expected?
>
> "Stützlast" I looked up -- maximum load on the hitch.

Correct.

Henry Law

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Apr 7, 2011, 5:05:41 PM4/7/11
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On 07/04/11 21:15, Henning Lippke wrote:

>> Zul. gesamtmasse c+s 1300Kg bis 2000Kg

>> Zul. St�tzlast 100Kg
>
> Zul. means zul�ssig, which would translate as maximum allowed.


> Gesamtmasse is combined mass, which would be the combined mass of
> trailer and load.
>
> I don't know what c+s means.
>
> Can you find the empty mass of the trailer? Is 1300 the empty weight, so
> that ypu can load up to 700 kg?

The figure I got from the club Captain for the empty weight of the
trailer is 987Kg but I'm beginning to think that he's not right. Our
rough guidance for boat loading is 16.5Kg per seat; if that's what the
trailer weighs then it would take about 60 seats' worth of boats ... say
four eights, four fours, four doubles and four single sculls, which is
ridiculous.

I think you're right: unloaded weight 1300Kg, maximum weight 2000.

Knott have an operation in England; maybe I'll ask them.

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