Thoughts on the UT angle
Alderran01
First, people have been saying how horrible this angle is and will be.
I'm not too sure about that. IMO, this angle has the potential to, if
nothing else, give Vader the World Title, which is a good thing. But
also, if done right, this angle could be done decently.
Second, to all of the comments saying that Kane is the name used by UT
when he joined the WWF (Kane the Undertaker). Perhaps he used the name in
tribute to his little brother, sounds reasonable to me.
Third, it is my hope that they don't have a brother appear. Make Paul
saying that Kane is alive an evil trick just to get under UT's skin.
Perhaps at IYH, UT could be about to beat Vader when Paul yells over the
mike "Prepare to meet Kane" or something like that and a mystery man
stands in the shadows by the enterance. UT gets distracted and Vader pins
him for the title. After the bell, Paul announces that Kane is truly dead
and Paul's new man is about to make UT the same way. And out runs someone
who along w/Vader pummel UT. With this, we get to see Vader get the World
Title (and maybe some decent matches), UT fight someone new, and an
adequate end to the "Kane angle". Following this, I'd like to see PB
bring in people to run interference for Champ Vader. Not a new stable but
just something like this: He brings in Abdullah and says UT must beat
Abdullah to get to Vader, UT beats Abdullah and PB brings in someone
else..and so on and so forth until about Royal Rumble time when UT wins
the Royal Rumble to face Champ Vader at Wrestlemania.
Fourth, if VinnieMAc insists on bringing in a brother, here are some
ideas.
Dan Spivey (Lives are gonna be in Kane's hands)
Steve Williams( he is Dr. Death)
uhh...that's all I can think of..any other suggestions.
One more thing, before the doomsayers proclaim that this angle is an
abysmal failure and will bring about the apocalypse (not DOA) of the WWF,
give it a chance. It just got started.
Chris
Conn MacKintosh
Alderran01 wrote:
> One more thing, before the doomsayers proclaim that this angle is an
> abysmal failure and will bring about the apocalypse (not DOA) of the
> WWF,
> give it a chance. It just got started.
When you look at a maggot you don't say: "Give it a chance, it just got
started." You know damn well it ain't gonna become a butterfly.
-- Conn (co...@wctc.net)
History shows again and again,
how nature points out the folly of man.
1/2 Nelson
I liked what you had to say...Even if the angle winds up being dopey,
people have been posting just what the secret ought to be, and what they
posted is, for the most part, really similar to the angle Vince
ultimately ran.
I almost wonder if Vince set up that angle not knowing how to resolve it,
and then looked through RSPW for ideas!
1/2 Nelson
Ender Wiggin
>One more thing, before the doomsayers proclaim that this angle is an
>abysmal failure and will bring about the apocalypse (not DOA) of the WWF,
>give it a chance. It just got started.
>
>Chris
Nope,
Shit is shit. Shit does not appreciate in value.
Cheers
Puppyblue
Joe...@earthlink.net wrote:
"Shit is shit. it does not appreciate in value. "
Only when it is used as fertilizer, my man. Then, and only then, can
something good possibly grow from this shit. Perhaps, Vince will finally
decide to let the Undertaker rest in peace.
-kevin
"I'm on aol, I know my shit."
DJ Puckett
On 1 Jul 1997, Alderran01 wrote:
> Fourth, if VinnieMAc insists on bringing in a brother, here are some
> ideas.
>
> Dan Spivey (Lives are gonna be in Kane's hands)
> Steve Williams( he is Dr. Death)
> uhh...that's all I can think of..any other suggestions.
>
> Chris
Here are some ideas:
Let Spivey and Williams come into the WWF as "Dr. Death" Steve Williams
and "Dangerous" Dan Spivey, both kick ass wrestlers. Pretty novel idea,
huh?
The WWF has greatly improved its product as of late with more hardcore
wrestlers like Austin. Having the Hart Foundation run roughshod over the
Federation as the elite heel group, and the NOD, a very good "realistic"
gimmick, has made me forget the cartoonish 80s WWF. If only these
horrible gimmicks would go away (Godwins and UT being the prime examples)
the WWF could move on with making the itself the best "wrestling"
organization (I really don't want to go into the problems with the WCW, er
NWO, product).
Anyway, you made an intelligent agrument for not judging the angle
too quickly, (and on this ng at this point, that is out of the ordinary)
but I have to disagree. The UT angle is only a regressive step for the
WWF. A gimmick such as a "Stone Cold", the Hart Foundation, the NOD, or
even a Hunter Hurst Helmsley is absolutely believable (please, no comments
about wrestling being fake). What I want, and, I think, what many other
wrestling fans want, is good, hardcore wrestling (without all of the
NWO-type bullshit). Hmmm, I think I just described the old NWA...
Instead of bringing a lame (I'm sorry Chris, but this IS lame) gimmick
like Kane, I would suggest getting rid of Paul Bearer altogether and just
have the UT as a wrestler, period. One that needs to get out in the sun
some more, but just a wrestler--no supernatural bullshit, just
get-in-the-ring-and-kick-ass attitude.
So bring in Spivey and Williams, vbring in Sasuke and other talented
Japanese wrestlers, keep up the WWF/ECW confrontations (Please!), bring
back greats like Steamboat (without the goofy dragon thing), and import
some more talent like you have done with young Putski, Christopher, and
others. BTW, while I'm asking, how about one or two Raws featuring Stan
Hanson. I'm not asking for much, only one or two Raws...
Hopefully someone at Titan will grant my wish...
As long as I've type this damn much, I might as well put my two-cents
worth in on WCW. As someone who grew up on NWA/WCW wrestling, it pains
me to watch the show now (it seems to have started when HH first
appeared). Anyway, the NWO was (and I'm saying WAS) a great angle. Now,
its stale, its robbed WCW of one of its top three stars (I'm talking about
Sting, who hasn't wrestled in what seems like years...dropping from the
roof is not wrestling), we have to put up with Hogan air-guitaring Flair's
belt (geez, I'm such a mark), and dammit, I can't follow any story line!
Can't WCW ever budget their air time so we can see one damn ending of a
Nitro?
Well, and this goes for the WWF as well, good, solid booking doesn't need
lame, cartoonish gimmicks (WWF), and good, solid booking uses its major
stars in ways that do not become stale and convoluted (WCW).
For those who happen to enjoy all of the gimmicks and angles that I have
just criticized, its a shame that your so easily entertained. For those
that enjoy well-booked angles, here's to when TPTB finally see the light
and dump the bozo gimmicks and jazz up the stale angles....
DP