you are all a bunch of fickle mushheads
OddMan1254
Hogan turns and now the former bane of RSPW is the sweetheart of RSPW.face
it...Hogan as a heel will still suck!
Joe Wargo
With the Pavlovian precision of all the marks who so easily switch
allegiances when a heel becomes a good guy, a lot of folks here have
jumped on the anti-Hulk's bandwagon just because the script called for him
to play the villain and it's cool to root for the bad guys.
Hogan hasn't changed one bit. He still has the same amount of talent and
skill. He doesn't rule more than before, he's no more eternal than before.
What's changed is his script, and for that we can thank no one other than
Bischoff. Sure, Hogan can be credited for a classic performance, but
Bischoff ultimately is responsible. *He's* the one who rules. He's the one
who orchestrated this and did whatever it was that convinced/persuaded
Hogan to turn. Bischoff pulled this off, and Bischoff deserves the credit.
He apparently has supplanted McMahon as wrestling's Barnum and truly
represents the New Generation (although I wouldn't count Vince out yet.
He's very good, too, and all of these prognosticators may be pulling a
McMahon false three-count by predicting the WWF's death: "He's got 'im!
Onetwothree! We have a new . . . Oh, he kicked out!)
Yeah, Hogan does still suck--but only his ability (or lack of ability) to
execute ring maneuvers. As a grappling entertainer and a manipulator of
fans' emotions, he's always been very good. The enthusiasm he displayed
and the energy he generated in the fans back in the early days of
Hulk-a-Mania hasn't been duplicated since--except for maybe yesterday's
heel turn.
I'm as wise as anyone else here is to the choreography of grappling, but I
nonetheless used to get quite excited when Hogan, for example, picked up
Bunday and slammed him, slept under the squat rack and huing and bung in
the gym, did all those great skits with Okerlund, or just gave a
stark-raving ga-ga interview, bruther. The spark has been gone, of late,
because his script hasn't changed. I've heard the spiel too much over the
years. I didn't see Bash at the Beach (and I'm so sorry now that I didn't
order it), but it sounds as if the new heel script has infused Hogan with
some new life. He may even be enjoying himself enough again to transfer
that enthusiasm back to the fans. As he used to say, "I got my pump back,
Jack."
In article <4rqtdc$d...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, oddma...@aol.com
Shuriken
On 8 Jul 1996 08:02:52 -0400, oddma...@aol.com (OddMan1254) wrote:
>Hogan turns and now the former bane of RSPW is the sweetheart of RSPW.face
>it...Hogan as a heel will still suck!
Well said,BUT I do think WCW is going in the right direction at this
point.IMHO but people on this newsgroup are TOO fickle.
Donald Martin
OddMan1254 (oddma...@aol.com) wrote:
You know he's right! Give us Hell, OddMan! Yayyyyy!
BTW I'll see you next "Whacking Day"
;)
Vizh
OddMan1254 wrote:
>
> Hogan turns and now the former bane of RSPW is the sweetheart of RSPW.face
> it...Hogan as a heel will still suck!
Being open-minded enough to recognize a change when it occurs and acknowledge
it doesn't make one fickle.
Being obsessive about disliking someone no matter what he says or does, I'd
call that fickle.
-- I could also call it a lot of other things.
..vizh
I missed the BATB but am 100% for a Hogan heel-turn.
OddMan1254
You wrote:
>Being open-minded enough to recognize a change when it occurs and
acknowledge
>it doesn't make one fickle.
>Being obsessive about disliking someone no matter what he says or does,
I'd
>call that fickle.
>-- I could also call it a lot of other things.
No. It's not called fickle. It's called being consistent. Hogan's
style is not going to change just because he turned. Everything you
RSPWers hate about his style will stay intact. The best I think we can
hope for is more interesting inteviews from him. It has been a while since
I've heard Hogan bash the fans.
Dave Putro
Whether you like Hogan or hate Hogan, you gotta respect a Diamond Joe
Quimby quote popping up on RSPW.
Barry L. Moore
Vizh <vi...@gm.gamemaster.qc.ca> wrote:
>OddMan1254 wrote:
>>
>> Hogan turns and now the former bane of RSPW is the sweetheart of RSPW.face
>> it...Hogan as a heel will still suck!
>Being open-minded enough to recognize a change when it occurs and acknowledge
>it doesn't make one fickle.
>
>Being obsessive about disliking someone no matter what he says or does, I'd
>call that fickle.
>
>-- I could also call it a lot of other things.
>
>
>..vizh
>I missed the BATB but am 100% for a Hogan heel-turn.
I think you should reserve your comments until you've seen it then. I
am not a Hogan-hater, a WCW basher or any other such thing. I will
state once again that the turn was NOT convincing. It had no build up
to make it believable, and Hogan's half-hearted attempt to sell the
turn lends great support to the notion that Bischoff backed him into a
corner. If Hogan couldn't (or wouldn't) convincingly sell the turn,
and Bischoff was too impatient to build it properly, it shouldn't have
happened. This is not being fickle, this is being rationally
objective...
Bairman
b...@worldnet.att.net
================
To err is human.
To forgive is not my policy...
BlackTree
OddMan1254 wrote:
>
> Hogan turns and now the former bane of RSPW is the sweetheart of RSPW.face
> it...Hogan as a heel will still suck!
I firmly agree. Professional Wrestling would be better served if
steriod freaks like Hogan and his cohorts (Savage, Jimmy Hart, John
Tenta, etc.) would pack up there bags and head north. Vince needs the
help anhow.
Hogan sucked when he was the IDOL OF THE MASSES (you sick humanoids) and
now that he is a heel, he's gonna suck even more!
HULKAMANIA
R.I.P
July 7, 1996
BlackTree
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Donald Martin
BlackTree (blak...@lek.net) wrote:
: OddMan1254 wrote:
: >
: > Hogan turns and now the former bane of RSPW is the sweetheart of RSPW.face
: > it...Hogan as a heel will still suck!
: I firmly agree. Professional Wrestling would be better served if
: steriod freaks like Hogan and his cohorts (Savage, Jimmy Hart, John
: Tenta, etc.) would pack up there bags and head north. Vince needs the
: help anhow.
The only steroid John Tenta abuses is cholesterol.
;)
Vizh
Barry L. Moore wrote:
>
> I think you should reserve your comments until you've seen it then. I
> am not a Hogan-hater, a WCW basher or any other such thing. I will
> state once again that the turn was NOT convincing. It had no build up
> to make it believable, and Hogan's half-hearted attempt to sell the
> turn lends great support to the notion that Bischoff backed him into a
> corner. If Hogan couldn't (or wouldn't) convincingly sell the turn,
> and Bischoff was too impatient to build it properly, it shouldn't have
> happened. This is not being fickle, this is being rational
Having now seen the BATB repeat, I'm beginning to see what everyone is
complaining about. True, Hogan's turn was less than convincing, which
adds more fuel to the prospect that he's playing the double-agent and
will soon turn again. And, the turn did nothing to help his ring
abilities. Hell, he didn't even change costumes for heaven's sake.
With this said, I still say the whole angle put WCW on top, at least for
now. Whatever we might like or dislike about Hogan being the 3rd man, I
no longer see the WWF as the federation to beat. Rather, I see it as
the federation that must start catching up real soon.
Who would you have rather seen as the 3rd man, aside from Bret Hart, who
would have been both willing and available?
I believe this is the only way the hype could be justified. But you're
right, Hogan does not "rule". I was at least hoping for a darker look.
..vizh