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3rd Guy: Nobody's Saying Sting

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Crahm

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Damn, I wish you hadn't postd that; it would have been a hell of a good
surprise. Great idea, though.
Crahm

JFinne7403

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If they really wanted to surprise us, it wouldn't be the obvious choice:
Luger. It wouldn't be Jarrett, or Hart, or Yoko, etc. It would be the 1
guy nobody would expect. The guy who hasn't been a heel in almost a
decade. How could it work?

1. Sting has been misused for a couple of years, ever since the Vader and
Rude wars in the early 90s. Hogan has come in. Savage has come in.
Luger has come back. Sting has always been Mr. Taken For Granted. Passed
over for opportunities. Jealousy finally shows itself?

2. Sting joins Hall and Nash in jumping Savage and Luger before the match
can start. After dishing out a horrible beating, Sting pins his former
best friend Luger with a hand shoved into his face. All the while Sting
is yelling, "You always took me for granted! You tried to play me for a
fool! I could never depend on you!"

3. In the post match interview with Mean "I've never been so shocked in
all my life!" Gene, Sting yells and screams about how underappreciated
he's been. How it took this to finally get some attention. It's payback
for being ignored.

4. Sting quotes his mentor, Hot Stuff Eddie Gilbert. "Eddie always told
me to look out for myself. I've been hearing his voice from the grave for
months. Well Eddie, I hear you. And I'm doing something about it."

Comments?

Robert Wallace Eddy

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Jul 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/4/96
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Well, isn't the whole point of the Invaders team is to have former WWF
wrestlers?? Sting hasn't wrestled for the WWF. With this said, I don't
think it would be him. My guess is still Evan.

JHatfi1006

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This sounds like a winner! I don't know of any Sting/WWF connection, but
a heel change for Sting would be quite interesting. I wonder how they
would explain why Sting slapped Razor on Nitro...That would be hard, but
not impossible.

BTW, this would get Sting out from under Hogan's shadow for a while. It
could set up some Hogan-Sting matches that could not have happened as long
as Sting was a face.


Bookerman

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Jul 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/4/96
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*really good scenario snipped*

Oooooooo! That's good. That would be great! What a shock that would
be. I've always thought Sting would make a great heel. And turning one
of the most popular fan favorites heel would turn Nash and Hall, who
aren't getting over as heels very well, into monster heels. I can hear
all the marks crying now, "Those bastards! They made my favorite guy
into a bad guy!" It could work! You should call up Bischoff right now
and give them that angle. I'm sure they have no idea who the third man
will be, yet, given their last minute booking style. This would blow any
angle WWF has come up with out of the water.

Letitbe

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Jul 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/4/96
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And then you woke up! If Sting becomes one of the outsiders, then who'd
replace him on the WCW side? Hogan? I hope not. Flair? This could work
if Savage is not there.

Letitbe

PETER GRASSI

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On Jul 04, 1996 12:02:25 in article <Re: 3rd Guy: Nobody's Saying Sting>,

'jhatf...@aol.com (JHatfi1006)' wrote:


>BTW, this would get Sting out from under Hogan's shadow for a while. It
could
>set up some Hogan-Sting matches that could not have happened as long as
Sting
>was a face.
--
FYI, Sting has wrestled Hogan already, I believe it was on a Nitro show.
PETER GRASSI
Pe...@pipeline.com
"Hey pal, you were the man here because I wasn't around" - Flair to
Sammartino @ MSG

Nina C. Davis

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I'm intrigued. Missed the original post, but it's plausible. Sting
could say he was tired of being a bridesmaid, angry over Hogan being
brought in. and p.o.'ed at EB's handling of things, so he's "taking
over." It would certainly be one of the shockers of '96. No one's
really thought about it 'cause Sting is synonymous with WCW, but it's
that fact that makes the idea even juicier. Not holding by breath that
it'll happen, but cool concept.

Kudos dude.

Nina
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tip of those lacquerd lil' nails. Take a good long look in the mirror,
'cause come Sunday, when I get through rootin' you around in the mud,
you're gonna have a new name: Suey Pig!"--Sunshine to Missy Hyatt, WCCW
circa '88. Memories....


StingWCW95

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Has Sting ever been a heel? Was he a heel when he was Bladerunner Flash or
when he used to team with Rick Steiner?
Also, wasn't Scott Steiner a heel right before he left the WCW to go to
WWF when he attacked Marcus Bagwell in a tag team match?

Raymond McDowell

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From: Raymond McDowell <raymond....@bakernet.com>
Subject: Re: 3rd Guy: Nobody's Saying Sting
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Robert Wallace Eddy wrote:
>
> Well, isn't the whole point of the Invaders team is to have former WWF
> wrestlers?? Sting hasn't wrestled for the WWF. With this said, I don't
> think it would be him.

Maybe so, but this would be a beautiful angle. I vote for JFinne for
booker. Eric, if you're listening, I'd say do it. Hell, you could bust
Vince in the chops, dare him to continue the suit and build up even more
interest all at the same time. You've even got the reasoning, scenario
AND good dialogue here. It's a cohesive, flat-out blast and it even
brings in some wrestling history(hard to believe Eddie's history, but
its true).

I'm an unabashed old style fan: give me feuds with believable
retribution angles and I'll cheer for the heel every time.
from most wrestling interviews)
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Raymond McDowell

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Jul 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/5/96
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Frito

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Sting as the 3rd outsider? There's a thought. Like Hogan turning heel,
Sting turning would mean a change in merchandising strategy, as there
are thousands of little Stingers with face paint and he's without a
doubt one of the biggest names selling at the concession stands. But it
could work out, and would be a BIG surprise. Notice in the last NITRO
how, when the WCW threesome and co. came out to confront Nash and Hall,
only Luger and Savage stuck around at the end to rant and rave with the
security and Sting was nowhere to be found?

????? ???????

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On Thu, 04 Jul 1996 13:47:57 -0700, Bookerman
<mcno...@alpha.delta.edu> wrote:

>*really good scenario snipped*
>
>Oooooooo! That's good. That would be great! What a shock that would
>be. I've always thought Sting would make a great heel. And turning one
>of the most popular fan favorites heel would turn Nash and Hall, who
>aren't getting over as heels very well, into monster heels. I can hear
>all the marks crying now, "Those bastards! They made my favorite guy
>into a bad guy!" It could work! You should call up Bischoff right now
>and give them that angle. I'm sure they have no idea who the third man
>will be, yet, given their last minute booking style. This would blow any
>angle WWF has come up with out of the water.

grow-up kid!

Le Metropolitain

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I thought about Sting. It would certainly put a stop to the whole
notion that WCW is trying to make the "Invaders" look like they are
acting on behalf of the WWF. I agree that it would generate
unbelievable heat, even more than if the number three guy were Hogan,
BUT I still don't like it.

Why? Well, part of Sting's whole persona is that he is the only
top-level virgin in professional wrestling (I know he was a heel for
about five minutes at the beginning of his career). A heel turn now
would garner huge ratings for Nitro and large PPV buys for a few
months, but it would still be cheap heat.

Remember André the Giant. I know that the André/Hogan feud led up to
the biggest event ever in wrestling history, but I've always thought
it was a mercy André died when he did. From being a genuine living
legend of the sport (sorry Bruno), he had deteriorated to a big guy
who was afraid of snakes and was best buddies with the Big Boss Man.
UGH! I know i'm probably the only person alive who didn't like the
Andé/Hogan feud, but that's the way I feel.

Even further back: remember High Chief Peter Maivia. Same thing. A
heel turn after years of being a face just doesn't work, and in the
long run, destroys the career and reputation of the wrestler in
exchange for a few months of cheap heat.

Francesca

Bart -Laz- Smith

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Jul 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/7/96
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sting...@aol.com (StingWCW95) wrote:
>Has Sting ever been a heel? Was he a heel when he was Bladerunner Flash or
>when he used to team with Rick Steiner?

As Flash, I don't remember back that far, but he and Rock were waaaay
heels... and also when he tagged with Rick Steiner, both teams in the
UWF in the mid-80s. (I wonder why they never mentioned this during the
Sting/Luger/Steiners matches...)

>Also, wasn't Scott Steiner a heel right before he left the WCW to go to
>WWF when he attacked Marcus Bagwell in a tag team match?

Wasn't paying attention during this time... :p

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Go K-State! | Wichita, KS

Jeff Amdur

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In article <1316.6760...@io.org>, lem...@io.org (Le Metropolitain) wrote:

> Remember André the Giant. I know that the André/Hogan feud led up to
> the biggest event ever in wrestling history, but I've always thought
> it was a mercy André died when he did. From being a genuine living
> legend of the sport (sorry Bruno), he had deteriorated to a big guy
> who was afraid of snakes and was best buddies with the Big Boss Man.
> UGH! I know i'm probably the only person alive who didn't like the
> Andé/Hogan feud, but that's the way I feel.

I didn't like this angle either. I wonder how much Andre's failing health
had to do with his transformation. His ring movement lumbered almost to a
halt as he became a heel and gained that extra hundred pounds.

> Even further back: remember High Chief Peter Maivia. Same thing. A
> heel turn after years of being a face just doesn't work, and in the
> long run, destroys the career and reputation of the wrestler in
> exchange for a few months of cheap heat.

Right on target here, madame. In his first two years or so in the WWF,
Maivia had become one of the groups most beloved, crowd-pleasing faces. I
still laugh when I remember the match in Baltimore where the High Chief
did a headstand and (he always wrestled barefoot) stuck his toes up the
nostrils of Doug "Gashouse" Gilbert (not to be confused with Eddie's
brother Doug). He had a fine array of wrestling holds and never gave you
a bad match. I had read about him for years in those "Ring Wrestling"
articles on the British wrestling scene, and to finally see him in the
states was a real treat. When he turned on Backlund and Strongbow, he was
transformed into just another generic heel. Nothing special. He *had*
been special before that heel turn.

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Toby Srebnik

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Jul 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/7/96
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StingWCW95 wrote:
>
> Has Sting ever been a heel? Was he a heel when he was Bladerunner Flash or
> when he used to team with Rick Steiner?
> Also, wasn't Scott Steiner a heel right before he left the WCW to go to
> WWF when he attacked Marcus Bagwell in a tag team match?

When I was in high school back in 86 or 87, Mid-South wrestling came on
once a week (then UWF). Steiner & Sting were a heel tag team for many
months, until Steiner turned on Sting...The rest is history.

Mike Minden

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Jul 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/8/96
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-> Has Sting ever been a heel? Was he a heel when he was Bladerunner Flash or
-> when he used to team with Rick Steiner?

Sting and Steiner were a very respectable heel team. I believe they were
managed by Hot Stuff Eddie Gilbert.

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