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McMahon slams WCW's "WWF Invasion" angle

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Brian K. Hoover

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Jun 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/4/96
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During the Jake Roberts - Hunter Hearst Helmsley match, Vince McMahon
restated that Ted DiBiase has left the WWF along with a few other
wrestlers. He announced that Razor Ramon and Diesel have left to join
a competitor and are participating in a reported ruse that they continue to
represent the WWF even though they are under contract to that competing
organization.

Will this cause Eric Bischoff to change the angle at all?

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Rodney H Morrow

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Jun 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/4/96
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Probably not. After ESPN, RSPW, and the Torch all reported the McMichael's
mystery partner would be Kevin Greene, he still went ahead made the big suprise
annoucement as planned.

Rod
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Rodney H Morrow
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Gern Blanston

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Jun 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/4/96
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Brian K. Hoover wrote:
>
> During the Jake Roberts - Hunter Hearst Helmsley match, Vince McMahon
> restated that Ted DiBiase has left the WWF along with a few other
> wrestlers. He announced that Razor Ramon and Diesel have left to join
> a competitor and are participating in a reported ruse that they continue to
> represent the WWF even though they are under contract to that competing
> organization.
>
> Will this cause Eric Bischoff to change the angle at all?

This has to be at least a small psychological victory for Uncle KenDoll.
Usually one of the first rules of competetive marketing is "If you're
explaining, you're losing." While Vince is probably smart to appeal
to the hardcore WWF lemming/fans by pointing out the WCW evil empire,
to the casual fan, all he did was point out that Hall and Nash were
available somewhere else. It seems that Vince is rolling the dice and
hoping his threatened lawsuit (in the Hall letter) will force WCW off
this angle.

Why the big two hype the fact that someone leaves is way beyond me.
They'd be so much better off by making sure their talent is signed
through major pay-per-views, and making sure that they aren't in any
important angles that the fans are exceptionally emotionally involved
with. For example, Eric bashes Mero when he leaves, which, along
with his appearances here, raises Mero to cult hero status on RSPW.
"If Eric doesn't like him, we sure do." Now Mero is in WWF's top 10
guys, when in WCW he was just rising above mid-card.

I think the WCW/ex-WWF angle is good for Turner now, especially in
light of falling Nitro ratings. It causes talk, and that's what WCW
needs. And it does reduce WWF to Sunny/Shawn/Golddust. Cactus Jack,
who has always been one of my faves cuz of his great interviews, looks
a little lost, Undertaker is getting tired, and who cares about a
bunch of pig farmers...

And hats off to Dustin Runnels. He's obviously a very clever guy who
is doing a fantastic job with a bizarre angle. If he's not writing
his own stuff, I take it back, but the Golddust bit on 6/3 was very
good.

Well, that sure rambled...

Gern
Rhymes with Burn

Herb Kunze

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Jun 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/4/96
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In article <4p08ci$f...@ns.net-works.net>,

Brian K. Hoover <bho...@itech.net> wrote:
>During the Jake Roberts - Hunter Hearst Helmsley match, Vince McMahon
>restated that Ted DiBiase has left the WWF along with a few other
>wrestlers. He announced that Razor Ramon and Diesel have left to join
>a competitor and are participating in a reported ruse that they continue to
>represent the WWF even though they are under contract to that competing
>organization.
>
>Will this cause Eric Bischoff to change the angle at all?

Sounds like Scott & Diesel (& DiBiase & Bulldog & Luger & ?) can just
say that they were tired of being pounded by WCW and that Vince
never really wanted to answer them; they got so fed up with it
that they left the WWF to come straighten things out on their
own. This leaves them as outsiders, from Team WWF, even though
the team leader has disowned them.

Herb...

Michael Rogers

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Jun 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/4/96
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In <4p08ci$f...@ns.net-works.net> bho...@itech.net@itech.net (Brian

K. Hoover) writes:
>
>During the Jake Roberts - Hunter Hearst Helmsley match, Vince McMahon
>restated that Ted DiBiase has left the WWF along with a few other
>wrestlers. He announced that Razor Ramon and Diesel have left to join
>a competitor and are participating in a reported ruse that they
continue to
>represent the WWF even though they are under contract to that
competing
>organization.
>
>Will this cause Eric Bischoff to change the angle at all?
>

Let's hope not. If someone is caught up in the story line then it's
easy enough to explain away Vince's disclaimer as him just attempting
to deny the truth. It's a good angle. Let's hope WCW doesn't Hulk it
all away.

-Mike Rogers-
Jihad

John Drake

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Jun 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/5/96
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On Jun 04, 1996 02:52:02 in article <McMahon slams WCW's "WWF Invasion"

angle>, 'bho...@itech.net@itech.net (Brian K. Hoover)' wrote:


>During the Jake Roberts - Hunter Hearst Helmsley match, Vince McMahon
>restated that Ted DiBiase has left the WWF along with a few other
>wrestlers. He announced that Razor Ramon and Diesel have left to join
>a competitor and are participating in a reported ruse that they continue
to
>represent the WWF even though they are under contract to that competing
>organization.
>
>Will this cause Eric Bischoff to change the angle at all?
>
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>Brian K. Hoover
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Nah Brian,
I think this is Vince's covering his own ass in case Diseal and Razor end
up jobbing to WCW wrestlers like Sting or Ex-wwf'ers Hogan or Savage ...
As far as things go I think Eric B is going to continue with the angle.
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John Drake

Endre Yancey

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Jun 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/6/96
to Herb Kunze

Herb Kunze wrote:
>
> In article <4p08ci$f...@ns.net-works.net>,
> Brian K. Hoover <bho...@itech.net> wrote:
> >During the Jake Roberts - Hunter Hearst Helmsley match, Vince McMahon
> >restated that Ted DiBiase has left the WWF along with a few other
> >wrestlers. He announced that Razor Ramon and Diesel have left to join
> >a competitor and are participating in a reported ruse that they continue to
> >represent the WWF even though they are under contract to that competing
> >organization.
> >
> >Will this cause Eric Bischoff to change the angle at all?
>
> Sounds like Scott & Diesel (& DiBiase & Bulldog & Luger & ?) can just
> say that they were tired of being pounded by WCW and that Vince
> never really wanted to answer them; they got so fed up with it
> that they left the WWF to come straighten things out on their
> own. This leaves them as outsiders, from Team WWF, even though
> the team leader has disowned them.
>
> Herb...

I think it will be on the lines of Mission Impossible , The head of the
organization disawows any knowledge of there actions and there out there on
there own. coincides with the movie wich is doing very well at the box office.

Endre

Guy Misener

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Jun 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/11/96
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>Will this cause Eric Bischoff to change the angle at all?

No, because he's too stupid.

Heheheheheehehehe!!!!! >:)

Sharron.

Michael T. Tyler

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Jun 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/14/96
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gmis...@idirect.com (Guy Misener) writes:

>Heheheheheehehehe!!!!! >:)

>Sharron.

No, Bischoff is too smart not to change the angle. Current WWF
defectors vs Current WCWers could easily create a massive
profit for WCW. That is, if the angle is done properly...

James C. Sewell

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Jun 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/15/96
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Michael T. Tyler (mat...@cabell.vcu.edu) wrote:
: No, Bischoff is too smart not to change the angle. Current WWF

: defectors vs Current WCWers could easily create a massive
: profit for WCW. That is, if the angle is done properly...

I've been reading a LONG time and one thing I don't understand is
why everyone assumes polarity in vewing. There doesn't have to be
ANY defectors in the age of a VCR in every home. I watch both and
have strong opinions on which is best, but there is no defection.

Jim

Mark Brooke

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Jun 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/19/96
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Yes everyone suspected that deisel & Ramon would have to change personalities. But WCW has
brought them in as they are. By the time the lawsuits are done it will not matter. This really
is a stroke of brilliant thought. Remember that Macho Man Savage wasstilla marketable wrestler
that WFW let go. Now they have given WCW thier most recognizable wrestlers.


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