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Trump Suggests That the US Would Not Defend NATO Countries Against Russia, Once Again Bowing Before Vlad.
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Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Ground
Feb 14, 2024, 5:48:33 PMFeb 14
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Speaking at a rally in Conway, South Carolina, Trump recalled how as president he told an unidentified NATO member that he would withhold U.S. help and “encourage” Russia to do as it wishes with allies that do not contribute enough to military spending.
“‘You didn’t pay? You’re delinquent?’” Trump recounted saying. “‘No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You gotta pay. You gotta pay your bills.’”
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg shot back with an unusually strong statement saying that Trump was threatening the security of the entire trans-Atlantic alliance.
“Any suggestion that allies will not defend each other undermines all of our security, including that of the U.S., and puts American and European soldiers at increased risk,” Stoltenberg said.
President Joe Biden, who is on track toward a rematch against Trump in November, also issued a statement criticizing Trump.
“Donald Trump’s admission that he intends to give Putin a green light for more war and violence, to continue his brutal assault against a free Ukraine, and to expand his aggression to the people of Poland and the Baltic States are appalling and dangerous,” Biden said.
What did Trump get wrong?
NATO members don’t pay to belong and don’t owe the organization anything other than contributions to a largely administrative fund. Trump clearly wasn’t referring to those administrative payments.
His frequent complaint during his presidency, and now, has been how much NATO countries put into their own military budgets.
U.S. presidents before him raised that concern. In fact, it was in 2014, during the Barack Obama administration, that NATO members agreed to move “toward” spending 2 percent of GDP on national defense by 2024. Stoltenberg also has said members needed to invest more in their militaries.
At their last summit, in Lithuania in July, NATO leaders adjusted that pledge by agreeing to spend at least 2 percent of GDP on their military budgets. No target date was set for meeting the goal.
The 2 percent is a benchmark that each member should spend on its own defense in order to be able to contribute to the joint defense of the alliance. However, the goal is voluntary, and there is no debt or “delinquency” involved.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-comments-urging-russia-to-invade-delinquent-nato-members
“‘You didn’t pay? You’re delinquent?’” Trump recounted saying. “‘No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You gotta pay. You gotta pay your bills.’”
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg shot back with an unusually strong statement saying that Trump was threatening the security of the entire trans-Atlantic alliance.
“Any suggestion that allies will not defend each other undermines all of our security, including that of the U.S., and puts American and European soldiers at increased risk,” Stoltenberg said.
President Joe Biden, who is on track toward a rematch against Trump in November, also issued a statement criticizing Trump.
“Donald Trump’s admission that he intends to give Putin a green light for more war and violence, to continue his brutal assault against a free Ukraine, and to expand his aggression to the people of Poland and the Baltic States are appalling and dangerous,” Biden said.
What did Trump get wrong?
NATO members don’t pay to belong and don’t owe the organization anything other than contributions to a largely administrative fund. Trump clearly wasn’t referring to those administrative payments.
His frequent complaint during his presidency, and now, has been how much NATO countries put into their own military budgets.
U.S. presidents before him raised that concern. In fact, it was in 2014, during the Barack Obama administration, that NATO members agreed to move “toward” spending 2 percent of GDP on national defense by 2024. Stoltenberg also has said members needed to invest more in their militaries.
At their last summit, in Lithuania in July, NATO leaders adjusted that pledge by agreeing to spend at least 2 percent of GDP on their military budgets. No target date was set for meeting the goal.
The 2 percent is a benchmark that each member should spend on its own defense in order to be able to contribute to the joint defense of the alliance. However, the goal is voluntary, and there is no debt or “delinquency” involved.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-comments-urging-russia-to-invade-delinquent-nato-members
Skeeter
Feb 14, 2024, 9:39:25 PMFeb 14
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In article <4b0329d0-35bd-49c4...@googlegroups.com>,
davidbr...@gmail.com says...
>
> Speaking at a rally in Conway, South Carolina, Trump recalled how as president he told an unidentified NATO member that he would withhold U.S. help and ?encourage? Russia to do as it wishes with allies that do not contribute enough to military spending.
>
> ??You didn?t pay? You?re delinquent??? Trump recounted saying. ??No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You gotta pay. You gotta pay your bills.??
>
> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-comments-urging-russia-to-invade-delinquent-nato-members
So what? Joe got away with a crime because hes old and has a bad memory
davidbr...@gmail.com says...
>
> Speaking at a rally in Conway, South Carolina, Trump recalled how as president he told an unidentified NATO member that he would withhold U.S. help and ?encourage? Russia to do as it wishes with allies that do not contribute enough to military spending.
>
> ??You didn?t pay? You?re delinquent??? Trump recounted saying. ??No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You gotta pay. You gotta pay your bills.??
>
> NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg shot back with an unusually strong statement saying that Trump was threatening the security of the entire trans-Atlantic alliance.
>
> ?Any suggestion that allies will not defend each other undermines all of our security, including that of the U.S., and puts American and European soldiers at increased risk,? Stoltenberg said.
> NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg shot back with an unusually strong statement saying that Trump was threatening the security of the entire trans-Atlantic alliance.
>
>
> President Joe Biden, who is on track toward a rematch against Trump in November, also issued a statement criticizing Trump.
>
> ?Donald Trump?s admission that he intends to give Putin a green light for more war and violence, to continue his brutal assault against a free Ukraine, and to expand his aggression to the people of Poland and the Baltic States are appalling and dangerous,? Biden said.
> President Joe Biden, who is on track toward a rematch against Trump in November, also issued a statement criticizing Trump.
>
>
> What did Trump get wrong?
> NATO members don?t pay to belong and don?t owe the organization anything other than contributions to a largely administrative fund. Trump clearly wasn?t referring to those administrative payments.
> What did Trump get wrong?
>
> His frequent complaint during his presidency, and now, has been how much NATO countries put into their own military budgets.
>
> U.S. presidents before him raised that concern. In fact, it was in 2014, during the Barack Obama administration, that NATO members agreed to move ?toward? spending 2 percent of GDP on national defense by 2024. Stoltenberg also has said members needed to invest more in their militaries.
> His frequent complaint during his presidency, and now, has been how much NATO countries put into their own military budgets.
>
>
> At their last summit, in Lithuania in July, NATO leaders adjusted that pledge by agreeing to spend at least 2 percent of GDP on their military budgets. No target date was set for meeting the goal.
>
> The 2 percent is a benchmark that each member should spend on its own defense in order to be able to contribute to the joint defense of the alliance. However, the goal is voluntary, and there is no debt or ?delinquency? involved.
> At their last summit, in Lithuania in July, NATO leaders adjusted that pledge by agreeing to spend at least 2 percent of GDP on their military budgets. No target date was set for meeting the goal.
>
>
> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-comments-urging-russia-to-invade-delinquent-nato-members
So what? Joe got away with a crime because hes old and has a bad memory
Freezer
Feb 15, 2024, 3:15:48 AMFeb 15
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If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
> So what? Joe got away with a crime because hes old and has a
> bad memory
Inviting Stalin Lite to attack what are supposed to be our allies.
Having a dozen or so classified documents.
Same thing, appearently.
> So what? Joe got away with a crime because hes old and has a
> bad memory
Having a dozen or so classified documents.
Same thing, appearently.
Skeeter
Feb 15, 2024, 10:21:31 AMFeb 15
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In article <XnsB1191703D3AE8f...@95.217.65.137>,
free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
So it's ok for Joe to commit a crime.
free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Ground
Feb 15, 2024, 3:50:45 PMFeb 15
to
There's just NOTHING that will remove your lips from Trump's ass is there?
Jason (guess not)
PS: I beyotch-slapped you again! Kinda old news at this point, sure, but still.
Skeeter
Feb 15, 2024, 4:12:06 PMFeb 15
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In article <b4b4a0e3-c34e-4b21...@googlegroups.com>,
davidbr...@gmail.com says...
for?
bad memory"
davidbr...@gmail.com says...
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 10:21:31 AM UTC-5, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <XnsB1191703D3AE8f...@95.217.65.137>,
> > free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
> > >
> > > If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
> > >
> > > > So what? Joe got away with a crime because hes old and has a
> > > > bad memory
> > >
> > > Inviting Stalin Lite to attack what are supposed to be our allies.
> > >
> > > Having a dozen or so classified documents.
> > >
> > > Same thing, appearently.
> > So it's ok for Joe to commit a crime.
>
> So that's all you have you coward? Diversion?
Facts. Why is Joe getting away with the same crime they are after Trump
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 10:21:31 AM UTC-5, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <XnsB1191703D3AE8f...@95.217.65.137>,
> > free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
> > >
> > > If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
> > >
> > > > So what? Joe got away with a crime because hes old and has a
> > > > bad memory
> > >
> > > Inviting Stalin Lite to attack what are supposed to be our allies.
> > >
> > > Having a dozen or so classified documents.
> > >
> > > Same thing, appearently.
> > So it's ok for Joe to commit a crime.
>
> So that's all you have you coward? Diversion?
for?
>
> There's just NOTHING that will remove your lips from Trump's ass is there?
You're the only one talking about him. Biden was deemed "elderly with a
> There's just NOTHING that will remove your lips from Trump's ass is there?
bad memory"
>
> Jason (guess not)
>
> PS: I beyotch-slapped you again! Kinda old news at this point, sure, but still.
You did nothing but act like a Jaytard again.
> Jason (guess not)
>
> PS: I beyotch-slapped you again! Kinda old news at this point, sure, but still.
Freezer
Feb 15, 2024, 5:39:55 PMFeb 15
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If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
> In article
> <XnsB1191703D3AE8f...@95.217.65.137>,
> free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
>>
>> If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
>>
>> > So what? Joe got away with a crime because hes old and has
>> > a bad memory
>>
>> Inviting Stalin Lite to attack what are supposed to be our
>> allies.
>>
>> Having a dozen or so classified documents.
>>
>> Same thing, appearently.
>
> So it's ok for Joe to commit a crime.
So you're going to keep going "LOOK OVER THERE" rather than address
> In article
> <XnsB1191703D3AE8f...@95.217.65.137>,
> free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
>>
>> If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
>>
>> > So what? Joe got away with a crime because hes old and has
>> > a bad memory
>>
>> Inviting Stalin Lite to attack what are supposed to be our
>> allies.
>>
>> Having a dozen or so classified documents.
>>
>> Same thing, appearently.
>
> So it's ok for Joe to commit a crime.
how ludicrous your comparison is?
Skeeter
Feb 15, 2024, 5:58:46 PMFeb 15
to
In article <XnsB119A984A389Ef...@95.217.65.137>,
free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
>
> If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
>
> > In article
> > <XnsB1191703D3AE8f...@95.217.65.137>,
> > free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
> >>
> >> If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
> >>
> >> > So what? Joe got away with a crime because hes old and has
> >> > a bad memory
> >>
> >> Inviting Stalin Lite to attack what are supposed to be our
> >> allies.
> >>
> >> Having a dozen or so classified documents.
> >>
> >> Same thing, appearently.
> >
> > So it's ok for Joe to commit a crime.
>
> So you're going to keep going "LOOK OVER THERE" rather than address
> how ludicrous your comparison is?
A crime is a crime. What part of that don't you get?
>
> If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
>
> > In article
> > <XnsB1191703D3AE8f...@95.217.65.137>,
> > free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
> >>
> >> If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
> >>
> >> > So what? Joe got away with a crime because hes old and has
> >> > a bad memory
> >>
> >> Inviting Stalin Lite to attack what are supposed to be our
> >> allies.
> >>
> >> Having a dozen or so classified documents.
> >>
> >> Same thing, appearently.
> >
> > So it's ok for Joe to commit a crime.
>
> So you're going to keep going "LOOK OVER THERE" rather than address
> how ludicrous your comparison is?
Family Guy
Feb 15, 2024, 7:43:08 PMFeb 15
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On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 5:48:33 PM UTC-5, Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Ground wrote:
> Speaking at a rally in Conway, South Carolina, Trump recalled how as president he told an unidentified NATO member that he would withhold U.S. help and “encourage” Russia to do as it wishes with allies that do not contribute enough to military spending.
>
> “‘You didn’t pay? You’re delinquent?’” Trump recounted saying. “‘No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You gotta pay. You gotta pay your bills.’”
That's...not how NATO works.
> Speaking at a rally in Conway, South Carolina, Trump recalled how as president he told an unidentified NATO member that he would withhold U.S. help and “encourage” Russia to do as it wishes with allies that do not contribute enough to military spending.
>
> “‘You didn’t pay? You’re delinquent?’” Trump recounted saying. “‘No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You gotta pay. You gotta pay your bills.’”
You would think a guy that had been an ACTUAL PRESIDENT would, you know, know that.
Fuck Trump.
Family Guy
Feb 15, 2024, 7:44:08 PMFeb 15
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Skeeter
Feb 15, 2024, 8:51:12 PMFeb 15
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In article <62250e88-a46c-4608...@googlegroups.com>,
madeforz...@yahoo.com says...
They were going to make him go to trial for classified documents but
decided he was to old and had a bad memory. So he gets away with it.
madeforz...@yahoo.com says...
decided he was to old and had a bad memory. So he gets away with it.
]v[etaphoid Inc.
Feb 16, 2024, 9:13:02 PMFeb 16
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normally feel) knowing that you and your tard Brother were the blubbering
halfwits who brought the whole “the President took classified documents”
cockamamee bullshit to the fore as an imagined pathway to your only
conceived method of eliminating Trump from the ballot sheet.
You get the leader you deserve. Twice.
]v[etaphoid Inc.
Feb 16, 2024, 9:13:03 PMFeb 16
to
Another self-congratulatory “win” from the biggest loser the group has
known since Chad and John DeJong got humiliated out of here.
Perhaps if you don’t want other people mentioning potential presidential
crimes, don’t be the halfwit celebrating multiple failed impeachments and
accusing someone else of the same crime you think is a non-issue when the
boot is on the other foot…
Freezer
Feb 17, 2024, 4:01:46 AMFeb 17
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If I don't reply to this ]v[etaphoid Inc. post, the terroists
win.
>> So you're going to keep going "LOOK OVER THERE" rather than
>> address how ludicrous your comparison is?
>>
>
> Must make you feel pretty stupid (relative even to how stupid
> you should normally feel) knowing that you and your tard
> Brother were the blubbering halfwits who brought the whole É
> othe President took classified documentsÉ cockamamee bullshit
for such a "crime."
Frankly, the fact that you cultists took Robert Hur's hit job at
face value ("'Confirmation bias?' Never heard of her!") shows how
desperately you want Biden out of the way.
win.
>> So you're going to keep going "LOOK OVER THERE" rather than
>> address how ludicrous your comparison is?
>>
>
> Must make you feel pretty stupid (relative even to how stupid
> you should normally feel) knowing that you and your tard
> othe President took classified documentsÉ cockamamee bullshit
> to the fore as an imagined pathway to your only conceived
> method of eliminating Trump from the ballot sheet.
Again I ask. What do you think the punishment would or should be
> method of eliminating Trump from the ballot sheet.
for such a "crime."
Frankly, the fact that you cultists took Robert Hur's hit job at
face value ("'Confirmation bias?' Never heard of her!") shows how
desperately you want Biden out of the way.
Davey Zimmerman #274
Feb 17, 2024, 9:10:28 AMFeb 17
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]v[etaphoid Inc. <m...@mormonia.com> wrote in
]news:uqp4nb$41c4$2...@dont-email.me:
Not fair, there's F'loser, the Mong brothers and the Perpetual Virgin
AKA Navir bin-Laden. Jason still has a long way to fall.
]news:uqp4nb$41c4$2...@dont-email.me:
AKA Navir bin-Laden. Jason still has a long way to fall.
Skeeter
Feb 17, 2024, 11:20:57 AMFeb 17
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In article <XnsB11B1ECE6DB9Ef...@95.217.65.137>,
free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
> > othe President took classified documents? cockamamee bullshit
you know he can win.
free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
>
> If I don't reply to this ]v[etaphoid Inc. post, the terroists
> win.
>
> >> So you're going to keep going "LOOK OVER THERE" rather than
> >> address how ludicrous your comparison is?
> >>
> >
> > Must make you feel pretty stupid (relative even to how stupid
> > you should normally feel) knowing that you and your tard
> > Brother were the blubbering halfwits who brought the whole ?
> If I don't reply to this ]v[etaphoid Inc. post, the terroists
> win.
>
> >> So you're going to keep going "LOOK OVER THERE" rather than
> >> address how ludicrous your comparison is?
> >>
> >
> > Must make you feel pretty stupid (relative even to how stupid
> > you should normally feel) knowing that you and your tard
> > othe President took classified documents? cockamamee bullshit
> > to the fore as an imagined pathway to your only conceived
> > method of eliminating Trump from the ballot sheet.
>
> Again I ask. What do you think the punishment would or should be
> for such a "crime."
>
> Frankly, the fact that you cultists took Robert Hur's hit job at
> face value ("'Confirmation bias?' Never heard of her!") shows how
> desperately you want Biden out of the way.
Oh the irony. You fuck are doing everything to get Trump gone because
> > method of eliminating Trump from the ballot sheet.
>
> Again I ask. What do you think the punishment would or should be
> for such a "crime."
>
> Frankly, the fact that you cultists took Robert Hur's hit job at
> face value ("'Confirmation bias?' Never heard of her!") shows how
> desperately you want Biden out of the way.
you know he can win.
Freezer
Feb 19, 2024, 12:31:23 AMFeb 19
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If I don't reply to this Skeeter post, the terroists win.
> Oh the irony. You fuck are doing everything to get Trump gone
> because you know he can win.
2020 says "BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
> because you know he can win.
]v[etaphoid Inc.
Feb 19, 2024, 3:23:25 AMFeb 19
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We’d hate for you to have to vacate rspw yet again…
Skeeter
Feb 19, 2024, 7:13:57 AMFeb 19
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In article <XnsB11CEF4724F75f...@95.217.65.137>,
free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
Why do you keep going backwards?
free...@hotSPAMTHISmail.com says...
Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Ground
Feb 20, 2024, 12:01:30 PMFeb 20
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Like, the Emancipation Proclamation for example.
Jason
Skeeter
Feb 20, 2024, 2:45:45 PMFeb 20
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In article <1c5a1f59-6001-432c...@googlegroups.com>,
davidbr...@gmail.com says...
Slavery happened too but I'm not harping on that. We landed on the moon.
So what? It's history.
davidbr...@gmail.com says...
So what? It's history.
Ja-Son-Wan-Kenobi Has the High Ground
Feb 20, 2024, 3:32:16 PMFeb 20
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Your shit that is. You went nuts and tried to overthrow the government.
Still relevant.
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