Blair Witch Project=Worst Movie EVER!!!
Danger3210
but I felt I had to address this very serious situation... There are certain
moments in life where you witness an event and your whole entire perspective of
the world changes in a heartbeat... And now that I have seen the Blair Witch
Project, everytime I walk near a movie theater... my heart skips a few beats...
It's gonna be a long time before I go back to the movies... This was the WORST
MOVIE EVER!!! You know I actually took out time from making my first ROCK
compilation tape to watch this piece of crap??? Well, in the movie's defense, I
missed the beginning and walked into the theatre the night before the moronic
kids find the pile of rocks near their tent and start freaking out... YES,
folks they find a pile of rocks and starting running for their lives... SCARY
SCARY SHIT!!! And what's even funnier is that this movie is rated R, but the
only gorey shit that I saw was a few bloody fingers and a tongue (I think)...
This movie should have been rated G... I've seen scarier shit in my stool...
Come on... And I really expected much more from this movie... My friend almost
killed me for dragging him to see it... Every few minutes he would say, "Let's
just leave..." And I would say no because I knew the first second I leave, then
all of the good shit starts happening... But nothing... Even the end had no
kind of climax or scary face... ANYTHING!!! ANYTHING IS MUCH SCARIER THAN
NOTHING!!! And when I saw "THE END", I just sat there and said, "WHAT???" As
the credits rolled, my mouth just dropped open as I stood there in shock...
Meanwhile, my friend who is still concious asks a girl behind us just what the
HELL is going on... And then I see the copyright and it says "1999"... Then I
realize that this is THE WORST MOVIE EVER!!! To make a movie this bad in 1999
is almost unbelievable... It doesn't even look like a real movie... Now I
understand they try to make it as realistic as possible like watching a home
movie, but this technique fails because you can barely see just what the hell
is going on... The fact of the matter is that this movie was more funny than
scary... and could these kids be any whiter??? Every sentence ended with "man"
or "dude"...
"You hear that, dude???"
"Yeah dude, let's run!!!"
That's basically the whole movie right there... Thank GOD, I didn't pay to see
it and I still wanted a refund or some sort... If you want to see a very funny
movie then go watch it... BUT, if you are expecting the supposedly "scariest
movie in years", then stay your ass home and watch Barney or something because
that is much much MUCH scarier...
Purple smiley fat dinosaurs freak me out... That and clowns... I HATE CLOWNS...
G R E A T O N E Q U O T E S - - - >
"THE ROCK is without a shadow of a doubt the BEST DAMN WWF Champ there ever
was..."
"THE ROCK is feelin good and HE's damn sure lookin good..."
"THE ROCK has got a very big hand, ha and you know what that means... That
means HE's gonna lay the smack down on ya whenever HE damn well pleases!!!"
NEVER SAY THE ROCK'S NAME IN VAIN!!!
STOP JOBBING THE ROCK DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DANGER'S TRYING TO SAVE RSPW... ONE POST AT A TIME...
OWEN HART=STILL AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE TRUE KING OF HEARTS!!!
Vince Greene
nearly as bad as Lost World or Batman and Robin, just off the top of my
head.
VG
hated BWP too
Zor Prime
>nearly as bad as Lost World or Batman and Robin, just off the top of my
>head.
Nah, Lost World was ok. Batman and Robin sucked dick though.
Marieta
Gresch7475
>
uh, scary movies have nothing to do with blood and guts or scary faces. scary
movies are a state of mind. "blair witch", it's true, is not that scary in a
cut 'em up gorefest type way. in a psychological sense, though, it's
captivating and very involved. Possibly the best movie I've seen the in the
past few years.
gresch
Kremlar
Then need the typical hollywood glitz, gore, action to enjoy.
Just so you know, you're in the minority - check the reviews and newsgroups.
Danger3210 <dange...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Zor Prime
>
>Then need the typical hollywood glitz, gore, action to enjoy.
>
>Just so you know, you're in the minority - check the reviews and
newsgroups.
Actually, there are as many people who have seen it that say it sucks as
there are who liked it. I, for one, think it sucks.
Mondhaut
missed almost the entire plot, and what you saw were just some people out there
in the woods. That's all.
If you had seen the beginning, which lays the groundwork for the rest of the
movie, then you would have understood the suspense so much more.
Also, I have found (not to be forthright) that a lot of people who have
disliked the Blair Witch Project thought it stunk because it had no gore and no
fancy lines. Um...that's the idea. It's the perfect antithesis to the sorry
status of film out there now, where buxom blondes get chased around by some
average looking guy (or ghost) and delivers all of their lines in perfect
english.
What made the Blair Witch Project a good movie was its realism. Things did
indeed go bump in the dark, and by the third night, the remaining two people
were shitting themselves without even hearing a sound. The whole movie is
glaringly honest in it's realism. The same thing with the language. I find
most movies totally ridiculous in dialogue. Try closing your eyes during a
show and listen to the voices without watching the action. They sound so fake
and ridiculous.
I wouldn't say that the Blair Witch Project is a horror movie, but it does have
it's creepy moments. Just because you missed the beginning of the film (which
explained the legend of the Witch, why they were out in the woods, the murders
that occured in the woods, and so many other things that contained the thread
that ran through the movire) and have been watching stereotypical movies for
far too long, it does not mean you should say it was the worst film ever. If
you ask me, the worst film seems to released every week, straight out of the
bowels of Hollywood, replacing the previous one.
I for one, intend to see the Blair Witch Project again...there are too many
nuances to capture in one viewing.
Rudy Poo
1. The night they are chased out of the tent. It sounds like little
children laughing which was pretty freaky.
2. The "part" in the bundle of twigs. Everyone complains about not knowing
what the part is, but just the fact that this scene is so talked about is
what makes it so great. Everyone's imagination runs wild. I've heard that
its a finger, a tongue, an eye, and genitals.
3. The end. Sure it makes no sense, but it makes you think! Again, its
like #2, it works on your imagination.
However, I agree mostly with Dange. BWP is a big hype machine. WAY too
much of the movie is spent on them walking around. Also, the rock and stick
scenes were just not scary.
A cool idea, but not the best execution.
Belacoptr
for a movie? Also, who says a witch can't show up during the day? I thought
that was just for vampires. In the movie's defense though, I'm glad they
didn't actually ever show the ghost. Anything they could have made up would
have been much worse than leaving it to your imagination. I think that most of
the people that said they thought the movie sucked would be scared to death if
they were in the woods and they started hearing those sounds. The scariest or
worst movie ever? I've seen worse, but I don't think it lived up to all the
hype either.
Professer Revolution
Then need the typical hollywood glitz, gore, action to enjoy.
Just so you know, you're in the minority - check the reviews and newsgroups.
>>
It's too bad that people will think that everything "new" and "cutting edge" is
good too and will like it just for the sake of "supporting the anti-hollywood
filmakers." Whatever. The movie sucked, was a bore to sit through, the
characters sucked and couldn't act(they couldn;t even act they couldn't act),
and it gave me a headache with it's home video look...Worst Movie Ever? No, but
worst this year definitely.
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>3. The end. Sure it makes no sense, but it makes you think! Again, its
>like #2, it works on your imagination.
What didn't make any sense about it? It made perfect sense to me and the rest
of the people I talked to after the movie was over with....
>WAY too
>much of the movie is spent on them walking around.
Well, it has it's focus on realism. If there hadn't been them walking around,
especially towards the third day, it would've foiled the sense of dread that
builds up in the viewer. Someone pointed out that the witch should've haunted
during the day, but that would've ruined it. The movie was all about the
viewers' sense of dread, and everyone in the theatre knew that when the sun
went down, some bad shit was going to start happening. That's one of the
essential elements of it's creepiness.
Also, the rock and stick
>scenes were just not scary.
>
They weren't meant to be. Again, the sense of dread, and the creepiness.
>1. The night they are chased out of the tent. It sounds like little
>children laughing which was pretty freaky.
Perhaps that was the freakiest part of the film, especially when little fists
starting pounding the tent from the outside.
Professer Revolution
scary
movies are a state of mind. "blair witch", it's true, is not that scary in a
cut 'em up gorefest type way. in a psychological sense, though, it's
captivating and very involved. Possibly the best movie I've seen the in the
past few years.>>
The movie isn't scary in ANY sense! Just because they don;t show what's going
on doesn;t make the movie a psychological horror flick. Captivating my ass, 3
annoying film students yell at each other in the woods. That's it.
Kremlar
been filmed similar to this.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but out of curiosity, what do YOU
consider to be a good movie?
Professer Revolution <profr...@aol.comnoSPAM> wrote in message
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> <<It's too bad when some people can't appreciate a good, unique film.
>
> Then need the typical hollywood glitz, gore, action to enjoy.
>
> Just so you know, you're in the minority - check the reviews and
newsgroups.
> >>
>
> It's too bad that people will think that everything "new" and "cutting
edge" is
> good too and will like it just for the sake of "supporting the
anti-hollywood
> filmakers." Whatever. The movie sucked, was a bore to sit through, the
> characters sucked and couldn't act(they couldn;t even act they couldn't
act),
> and it gave me a headache with it's home video look...Worst Movie Ever?
No, but
> worst this year definitely.
>
>
Kremlar
remain quiet when they do.
For example, I haven't started any threads saying 'BLAIR WITCH RULEZ'.
Zor Prime <harv...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> >It's too bad when some people can't appreciate a good, unique film.
> >
> >Then need the typical hollywood glitz, gore, action to enjoy.
> >
> >Just so you know, you're in the minority - check the reviews and
> newsgroups.
>
Professer Revolution
Well, I personally enjoyed the show. If you missed the beginning, then you
missed almost the entire plot, and what you saw were just some people out there
in the woods. That's all.
If you had seen the beginning, which lays the groundwork for the rest of the
movie, then you would have understood the suspense so much more. >>
WHAT?! The beginning doesn;t set up SHIT! All they do is meet each other, talk
to a couple townsfolk(which doesn;t accomplish SQUAT, they each tell a
different story which confuses more than "intrigues"), and drink a couple
beers. If you missed the first hour and a half you still would've known what
the hell is going on...and you also would've had a better hour and a half to
boot.
<<Also, I have found (not to be forthright) that a lot of people who have
disliked the Blair Witch Project thought it stunk because it had no gore and no
fancy lines. Um...that's the idea. It's the perfect antithesis to the sorry
status of film out there now, where buxom blondes get chased around by some
average looking guy (or ghost) and delivers all of their lines in perfect
english.>>
I disliked it because NOTHING HAPPENS, a major fucking plot point is that they
see the same friggin LOG after walking all day. Oh, how original. I haven't
seen that in any "Hollywood Glitz movie" before.
<<What made the Blair Witch Project a good movie was its realism.>>
If realism means boring, then I guess you have a point there...
<< Things did indeed go bump in the dark, and by the third night, the remaining
two people
were shitting themselves without even hearing a sound. The whole movie is
glaringly honest in it's realism. The same thing with the language. I find
most movies totally ridiculous in dialogue. Try closing your eyes during a
show and listen to the voices without watching the action. They sound so fake
and ridiculous.>>
Oh yeah, have some people yell "What the fuck was that man!" and the dialouge
is somehow "real." The characters sucked, just like the rest of the movie.
<<I wouldn't say that the Blair Witch Project is a horror movie, but it does
have
it's creepy moments. Just because you missed the beginning of the film (which
explained the legend of the Witch, why they were out in the woods, the murders
that occured in the woods, and so many other things that contained the thread
that ran through the movire) and have been watching stereotypical movies for
far too long, it does not mean you should say it was the worst film ever. >>
Yeah...the beginning does so much. We're supposed to get to know the
characters, so it's harder for us to deal with their trials and
tribulations...All I got out of it was 3 annoying students got together to
annoy me and give me a headache with their home movies. Sets up the story?
Well, which enthralling depiction "scared" you the most. The two guys fishing?
Oohhh, a creepy gray floating thing. The lady with the kid? Yeah, two dead
hunters, whatever. Crazy Mary? Oh help me, a hairy lady flashed her. The only
story that made any sense was the baby-killing guy, since that tied into the
end. And if this story, or myth or whatever was bad enough for the town to
change it;s name, why would the townsfolk be so open to talk about it with
these 3 morons? Bad movie. If this is the "new direction" of horror movies,
then I vote for the same old Freddy and Jason crap. At least they scared me
when i was a kid. And just because you "think" you are supporting
out-of-the-mainstream flim makers doesn;t mean you should call every piece of
independant crap good either. Indy film makers churn out as much crap as the
"Empty Hollywood Director's" only they look and sound worse...
<< If
you ask me, the worst film seems to released every week, straight out of the
bowels of Hollywood, replacing the previous one.
I for one, intend to see the Blair Witch Project again...there are too many
nuances to capture in one viewing.>>
Again, Indy films are just as bad as Big Time Hollywood Schlock(TM), and every
Indy director is trying to get to Hollywood anyway...Too many nuances? Fo you
mean the piles of rocks or the twigs? Ohhh, maybe the ultra-intriging "I kicked
the Map" scene, that one's a keeper. OR do you want to see the kid standing in
the corner while the girl gets killed, I mean drops her camera, because it
"ties the whole thing in nicely" What a bunch of crap.
Crap is crap and this movie is shittier than one of the port-a-potties at
Woodstock '99. I may have to go see "Deep Blue Sea," it'll probably seem
Shakespearean compared to the BWP.
Zor Prime
>been filmed similar to this.
Oh really? Name one.
Adam Short
>Well, in the movie's defense, I
>missed the beginning and walked into the theatre the night before the moronic
>kids find the pile of rocks near their tent and start freaking out.
Thats why the end made no sense to you.
I don't have good enough mic skills for a sig.
Kremlar
to come.
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Kremlar
The Last Broadcast
Cannibal Holocaust
Remember, I did say similar...
PS - plus countless of other films done in broadcast clubs around
the world.
Zor Prime <harv...@juno.com> wrote in message
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Adam Short
>And what's even funnier is that this movie is rated R, but the
>only gorey shit that I saw was a few bloody fingers and a tongue (I think)...
>This movie should have been rated G... I've seen scarier shit in my stool...
Whats scary about seeing someone disemboweled? or decapitated? Have you ever
been creeped out by seeing that stuff? But I bet you have been creeped out by
being all alone in the dark somewhere and hearing noises of unknown origin.
>... Now I
>understand they try to make it as realistic as possible like watching a home
>movie, but this technique fails because you can barely see just what the hell
>is going on...
Would have rather had some CGI (aka fake looking) monster chase them and bite
them in half.
>and could these kids be any whiter??? Every sentence ended with "man"
>or "dude"...
You must not hang out with college age white people very much.
I really think that if you show up 20 minutes into a 90 minute film...then you
have no right to write any sort of review. You missed all of the backstory, and
that is what made things like the sticks and the rock piles significant and
genuinely creepy. Not to mention that the ending would have made perfect sense
if you had seen the beginning. I actually think this was the best horror movie
I've ever seen since the first Halloween. Sure, they're two different types of
movies...but they are the only two movies to make me think twice about
sleeping. To each his own I guess....but this was in no way the worst movie of
the year by any means. It was one of the more thought provoking movies I've
seen in years.
DXPanther1
I guess I could be selfish and take this joke waiting to happen, but hell, it
would just get lost in the string of posts that will most likely show up on
this.
D X P
"The next level of troll...coming to a newsgroup near you."
Mondhaut
The beginning, if you had paid attention, tells you the significance of :
1) the stones in the woods :
2) why there were 7 piles of them
3) what would happen if you disturbed the stones
4) The significance of the house in the woods
5) The methods of murder employed by said serial killer of the 1940's.
6) The belief of the local townsfolk that what was going on was real...
7) Coffin Rock
and
8) The correlation of the witch and the serial killer....and the children.
Seems like a lot of info to me.
>I disliked it because NOTHING HAPPENS, a major fucking plot point is that
>they
>see the same friggin LOG after walking all day. Oh, how original.
It's called 'getting lost' which is real. It would happen to me or you. Their
reactions also serve to display their growing hysteria and frustrations. And
besides, the whole time of day seens add up to very little screen time.
><<What made the Blair Witch Project a good movie was its realism.>>
>
>If realism means boring, then I guess you have a point there...
Perhaps the most realistic thing about the movie is the audience's reaction to
it. Those who went in expecting to be spoonfed everything was disappointed,
and those who wanted to pay attention were pleasantly surprised. Just like
real life.
>Oh yeah, have some people yell "What the fuck was that man!" and the dialouge
>is somehow "real." The characters sucked, just like the rest of the movie.
>
You go watch any other movie out now and tell me the dialogue is more
realistic. Care to try Wild Wild West? Deep Blue Sea? What makes the above
quote realistic is that anyone would've said it under such circumstances. You,
me, and nearly anyone else. Which is a lot more realistic than half of the
trash out there now.
>Yeah...the beginning does so much. We're supposed to get to know the
>characters, so it's harder for us to deal with their trials and
>tribulations...
Actually, you're not supposed to know too much about the characters...just the
basics.
>Well, which enthralling depiction "scared" you the most. The two guys
>fishing?
>Oohhh, a creepy gray floating thing. The lady with the kid? Yeah, two dead
>hunters, whatever. Crazy Mary? Oh help me, a hairy lady flashed her.
Again, there were not any frightening parts at the beginning, and the spooks
didn't really occur until the second night in the movie. Stop being a dimwit.
>And if this story, or myth or whatever was bad enough for the town to
>change it;s name, why would the townsfolk be so open to talk about it with
>these 3 morons?
It wasn't bad enough to change its name, but rather the notoriety of being home
to serial killer prompted the change. Again, pay attention. And people talk
when asked...you can go knock on the door of any one who lived near or knew of
a mass murderer and get thoughts and history about it. Re : the recent Atlanta
slayings.
>And just because you "think" you are supporting
>out-of-the-mainstream flim makers doesn;t mean you should call every piece of
>independant crap good either.
Actually, I really dislike many independent films, and do my best to avoid it.
I expected the same of the BWP. The last movies I saw that were good that
would be considered 'independent' would be "Life is Beautiful" and "Night of
the Living Dead." As you can tell, I watch indy movies allllll the time.
<sigh>
>Indy film makers churn out as much crap as the
>"Empty Hollywood Director's" only they look and sound worse...
>
For the most part, yes.
>I may have to go see "Deep Blue Sea," it'll probably seem
>Shakespearean compared to the BWP.
>
BWP never claimed to be Shakespearean. And if you went into the film expecting
that much, and expecting it to be a special effects extravaganza, then you
already had formed opinions about it. Just like real life.
Mondhaut
>
>The Last Broadcast
>Cannibal Holocaust
>
>Remember, I did say similar...
What you seem to forget is that when something is 'new' or 'cutting edge' it
doesn't mean it is the first of it's kind. Even considering the two films,
which similarity to BWP is tenous at best, what makes BWP 'new' or 'cutting
edge' is that they took this shared formula and made it interesting and
entertaining (at least in the minds of many). Originality exists in the fact
that they took this technique and did something to it to make it get this far.
Therein lies the 'new' and 'cutting edge' statements you hear bandied about.
Kremlar
completely new ground.
Now we're debating the meanings of 'new' and 'cutting edge'?
Don't be silly...
Mondhaut <mond...@aol.comQQQQQQQ> wrote in message
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Mondhaut
We were debating?
Kremlar
:)
Mondhaut <mond...@aol.comQQQQQQQ> wrote in message
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Danger3210
>>Ever covers a lot of ground Danger. I feel you otherwise, but it isn't
>>nearly as bad as Lost World or Batman and Robin, just off the top of my
>>head.
>
>Nah, Lost World was ok. Batman and Robin sucked dick though.
You know... The funny thing about this is that during BWP, me and my friend
were discussing how crappy the movie was and I said to him, "I rather watch
Batman & Robin than this..." He immediately agreed... Still I don't consider
B&W part of the Batman series... I still like to believe they only made 3
movies...
Danger3210
>It's too bad when some people can't appreciate a good, unique film.
Is it just me or are a lot of people digging this film just because it's
"different"... Just because it's "different" doesn't always make it good...
>Then need the typical hollywood glitz, gore, action to enjoy.
If the typical Hollywood glitz is basic lighting, then yes I need the typical
Hollywood glitz... A little action wouldn't hurt either...
>Just so you know, you're in the minority - check the reviews and newsgroups.
And this changes my opinion??? Just because someone else thinks it's good,
doesn't mean I must follow... Also, just because I say it's bad, doesn't mean
you shouldn't watch it... I just gave my own opinion on the movie... Also, it
must be known that I missed the beginning... Maybe, if I saw the whole movie I
would have thought otherwise...
-=Zipp=-
Revolution ) wrote:
>WHAT?! The beginning doesn;t set up SHIT! All they do is meet each other, talk
>to a couple townsfolk(which doesn;t accomplish SQUAT, they each tell a
>different story which confuses more than "intrigues"), and drink a couple
>beers. If you missed the first hour and a half you still would've known what
>the hell is going on...and you also would've had a better hour and a half to
>boot.
Legends are passed down from generation to generation, and every
person twists the legend every which way. One of my friends pointed
out that the movie was sort of a combo of the different stories
different people were telling. The different stories was just another
element of realism.
---
-=Zipp=- (Stone Grinder)
World's biggest "The Last Dragon" mark.
Boycott the Inspector Gadget movie & See 'The Blair
Witch Project' NOW!!!
The Holy Trinity of Wrestling- Slick (the father), La
Parka, (the son), & Mick Foley (the Holy Spirit).
Ernest Miller is now to be known as 'Moses Miller.'
Everyone else, is just an apostle.
May 23, 1999: The day professional wrestling died.
We'll miss you, Owen.
-=Zipp=-
I knew this day would come...Danger and I COMPLETELY disagree on
something. Oh well, here we go...
>Four words... DON'T... BELIEVE... THE... HYPE...
Don't just believe it...live it, love it...
>And I know this is off-topic
>but I felt I had to address this very serious situation... There are certain
>moments in life where you witness an event and your whole entire perspective of
>the world changes in a heartbeat... And now that I have seen the Blair Witch
>Project, everytime I walk near a movie theater... my heart skips a few beats...
>It's gonna be a long time before I go back to the movies... This was the WORST
>MOVIE EVER!!! You know I actually took out time from making my first ROCK
>compilation tape to watch this piece of crap??? Well, in the movie's defense, I
>missed the beginning and walked into the theatre the night before the moronic
>kids find the pile of rocks near their tent and start freaking out... YES,
>folks they find a pile of rocks and starting running for their lives... SCARY
>SCARY SHIT!!!
Okay...so what you're saying is that you basically missed the
background story, and you don't even know why they were freaked out by
finding rocks around their campsite. Keep going...
>And what's even funnier is that this movie is rated R, but the
>only gorey shit that I saw was a few bloody fingers and a tongue (I think)...
>This movie should have been rated G... I've seen scarier shit in my stool...
Are you saying that the only thing worth an R rating is blood and
guts? The coarse language & the content is what earned an R rating.
I'm sorry if the movie didn't deliver guys running around with
chainsaws cutting up people...I'm sorry if the movie didn't deliver
cool little stalking music that went with all of the scary scenes, so
we would know what would be happening in what scene...I'm sorry if
this movie didn't have enough blood and gore for you. Hell, if that
was what you were looking for, then why didn't you just stay home and
rent any of the other 50,000,000 titles that have this?
Oh...and I think those were teeth Heather found.
>Come on... And I really expected much more from this movie... My friend almost
>killed me for dragging him to see it... Every few minutes he would say, "Let's
>just leave..." And I would say no because I knew the first second I leave, then
>all of the good shit starts happening... But nothing... Even the end had no
>kind of climax or scary face... ANYTHING!!! ANYTHING IS MUCH SCARIER THAN
>NOTHING!!!
It's called USE YOUR FUCKING IMAGINATION! Open your fucking eyes for
a minute! Aren't you getting sick and tired of being spoon fed
everything in horror movies? The ending to this movie was so open to
interpretation, it's not even funny. Everyone has their own little
theories, and that's what made it good.
>And when I saw "THE END", I just sat there and said, "WHAT???" As
>the credits rolled, my mouth just dropped open as I stood there in shock...
>Meanwhile, my friend who is still concious asks a girl behind us just what the
>HELL is going on... And then I see the copyright and it says "1999"... Then I
>realize that this is THE WORST MOVIE EVER!!! To make a movie this bad in 1999
>is almost unbelievable... It doesn't even look like a real movie... Now I
>understand they try to make it as realistic as possible like watching a home
>movie, but this technique fails because you can barely see just what the hell
>is going on...
You're not supposed to see what is going on, dammit! You're supposed
to see exactly what the filmmakers saw. You're supposed to hear
exactly what the filmmakers heard. You're supposed to know exactly
what the filmmakers knew. You're supposed to use your fucking
imagination to fill in the fucking blanks!
Dange, you've got my blood boiling more then ever right now! Keep it
coming!
>The fact of the matter is that this movie was more funny than
>scary... and could these kids be any whiter??? Every sentence ended with "man"
>or "dude"...
Hey...I had no problem that the kids making this movie were a couple
of suburban white kids. No colored folk in the movie = no colored
folk getting killed within the first minute of the movie...that really
pisses me off.
>
>"You hear that, dude???"
>
>"Yeah dude, let's run!!!"
>
>That's basically the whole movie right there...
MOTHERFUCK! Didn't you miss like half of the movie anyway? Until you
see the entire movie, you can't really say what the whole movie was,
because you really didn't know what the fuck was going on!
>Thank GOD, I didn't pay to see
>it and I still wanted a refund or some sort... If you want to see a very funny
>movie then go watch it... BUT, if you are expecting the supposedly "scariest
>movie in years", then stay your ass home and watch Barney or something because
>that is much much MUCH scarier...
>
>Purple smiley fat dinosaurs freak me out... That and clowns... I HATE CLOWNS...
Fuck clowns...go see The Blair Witch Project.
It's all about realism, and it's all about using your imagination.
This movie was so *real,* it wasn't even funny. Everyone had a
realistic angle. Everyone had realistic dialogue (they cut out all of
the corny shit...it's still in the "director's cut" though).
In addition, the movie was very open to interpretation. The
filmmakers left so many blanks for you to fill in. Instead of making
a regular old horror movie where we knew everything that was about to
happen, they made a movie where WE DIDN'T KNOW SHIT, and we are
supposed to fill in the blanks ourselves. That makes a good movie,
not this formula horror shit that we're all used to.
Bottom line is this. You want blood, if you want to see guts, if you
want to be spoon fed everything, go see any of the other "horror"
movies that deliver this.
If you want to be psychologically freaked out, if you want a movie
that will not fill in the blanks for you, if you want a movie that
will make you use your imagination, then go see The Blair Witch
Project.
The Blair Witch Project was the best horror movie EVER, and I will
defend that argument to the grave.
-=Zipp=-
wrote:
>>First of all, it's not new and cutting edge. Several other films have
>>been filmed similar to this.
>
>Oh really? Name one.
I heard someone mention a movie called Cannibal Holocaust, which had
realistic looking death scenes.
This definitely isn't the first mockumentry to hit the scene, either.
Danger3210
>Well, I personally enjoyed the show. If you missed the beginning, then you
>missed almost the entire plot, and what you saw were just some people out
>there
>in the woods. That's all.
>If you had seen the beginning, which lays the groundwork for the rest of the
>movie, then you would have understood the suspense so much more.
Probably... that's why I wrote that first in my review... Also, that is the
only defense I have for the movie... Maybe, if I would have saw the beginning,
my review would have been different...
>Also, I have found (not to be forthright) that a lot of people who have
>disliked the Blair Witch Project thought it stunk because it had no gore and
>no
>fancy lines.
I wasn't exactly looking for gore or catchphrases BUT, I was expecting more
than just a pile of rocks... And the dialogue, realistic as it may be, was just
annoying... At first, I laughed at it but after awhile you just wanted to
scream at the the screen, "SHUT THE HELL UP!!!"
>Um...that's the idea. It's the perfect antithesis to the sorry
>status of film out there now, where buxom blondes get chased around by some
>average looking guy (or ghost) and delivers all of their lines in perfect
>english.
That's old and tired too, but I have never seen a present-day horror movie
where all of the actors speak perfect english...
>What made the Blair Witch Project a good movie was its realism.
Like I said before, movies are better when they are as fake as they wanna be...
Movies aren't supposed to be like real life... (That's why it's a movie!) Sure,
you're supposed to believe what is happening but it's should be too
realistic...
>Things did
>indeed go bump in the dark, and by the third night, the remaining two people
>were shitting themselves without even hearing a sound.
But I need something to be scared about... I need an image... Sure, the unknown
darkness can be frightening but after watching 20 mins of it, the scare factor
fades away... I mean, after a while you start yelling at the screen, "WHAT THE
HELL ARE YOU BITCHES SCARED AT???" A pile of rocks??? I just didn't buy that as
terriffying... I heard that this movie was so scary it was disturbing... much
like the original "Night of the Living Dead" was... but to me it absolutely
wasn't...
>Just because you missed the beginning of the film (which
>explained the legend of the Witch, why they were out in the woods, the
>murders
>that occured in the woods, and so many other things that contained the thread
>that ran through the movire) and have been watching stereotypical movies for
>far too long, it does not mean you should say it was the worst film ever.
Missing the beginning is a factor (it shouldn't be but it is) but the reason
why I considering the worst is because in 1999 I shouldn't be complaining about
horrible LIGHTING... In 1999, I shouldn't be complaining about bad
photography... In 1999, I shouldn't be complaining about bad sound quality...
In 1999, I shouldn't be complaining about all of these technical aspects that
you EXPECT in any regular movie... Sure, they tried to make the movie like this
to make it as realistic as possible... but to me it didn't work... Nice idea
but it just didn't work IMO...
>I for one, intend to see the Blair Witch Project again...there are too many
>nuances to capture in one viewing.
I MUST wait until it comes on cable or something because I don't think I can
watch it again in the theaters... I need some time away from it and watching it
again could be like "crappy movie OVERLOAD!!!" and I might lose it and kill
everyone in the movie theater...
Danger3210
>There are three good parts:
>
>1. The night they are chased out of the tent. It sounds like little
>children laughing which was pretty freaky.
Yeah, that was pretty good... Also, one of the only weird things I saw or heard
in the whole movie... Nice effect...
>2. The "part" in the bundle of twigs. Everyone complains about not knowing
>what the part is, but just the fact that this scene is so talked about is
>what makes it so great. Everyone's imagination runs wild. I've heard that
>its a finger, a tongue, an eye, and genitals.
I think I saw a few fingers and a tongue... Some girl behind me screamed that
she saw a face... Maybe I blinked or something cause me and my friend missed
that...
>3. The end. Sure it makes no sense, but it makes you think! Again, its
>like #2, it works on your imagination.
I still don't really know what happened at the end... Girl runs back down
stairs, guy's back is facing her, and the camera just drops??? Kinda confused
here...
>However, I agree mostly with Dange. BWP is a big hype machine. WAY too
>much of the movie is spent on them walking around. Also, the rock and stick
>scenes were just not scary.
>
>A cool idea, but not the best execution.
Again me and the RP see eye-to-eye on things...
G R E A T O N E Q U O T E S - - - >
"THE ROCK is without a shadow of a doubt the BEST DAMN WWF Champ there ever
was..."
"THE ROCK is feelin good and HE's damn sure lookin good..."
"THE ROCK has got a very big hand, ha and you know what that means... That
means HE's gonna lay the smack down on ya whenever HE damn well pleases!!!"
Danger3210
>>dange...@aol.com (Danger3210)
>
>>And what's even funnier is that this movie is rated R, but the
>>only gorey shit that I saw was a few bloody fingers and a tongue (I
>think)...
>>This movie should have been rated G... I've seen scarier shit in my stool...
>
>Whats scary about seeing someone disemboweled? or decapitated?
Bad sentence pairing on my part... But in a rated R movie, I am expecting
something a little bit more than just a few fingers in a twig... I don't
know...
>Have you ever
>been creeped out by seeing that stuff?
It depends... But really all of those gore slasher movies have been done to
death and that stuff really can't be frightening anymore... STILL, I need
something to see to be afraid of...
>But I bet you have been creeped out by
>being all alone in the dark somewhere and hearing noises of unknown origin.
Maybe the first couple minutes of that, but after an hour or so or that, it
kinda loses it's effect...
>>... Now I
>>understand they try to make it as realistic as possible like watching a home
>>movie, but this technique fails because you can barely see just what the
>hell
>>is going on...
>
>Would have rather had some CGI (aka fake looking) monster chase them and bite
>them in half.
No but I thought at the end, some hillbilly guy would come out and smile or
something... Then the camera drops... OR, maybe have like twenty satan
worshipers come out and surround the camera and then it drops... Again, I need
something that I can see to be afraid of...
>>and could these kids be any whiter??? Every sentence ended with "man"
>>or "dude"...
>
>You must not hang out with college age white people very much.
I don't, but even if it was realistic, it gets annoying after hearing it too
long...
>I really think that if you show up 20 minutes into a 90 minute film...then
>you
>have no right to write any sort of review. You missed all of the backstory,
>and
>that is what made things like the sticks and the rock piles significant and
>genuinely creepy. Not to mention that the ending would have made perfect
>sense
>if you had seen the beginning.
Probably, that's why I put that in the beginning of my review... Still, if the
whole movie was boring to me, how could the beginning be anymore exciting???
Still, I did miss the setup...
>I actually think this was the best horror movie
>I've ever seen since the first Halloween.
Now, THAT'S a horror movie! Every time I hear that theme, I turn around to see
what's behind me...
Adam Short
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>I still don't really know what happened at the end... Girl runs back down
>stairs, guy's back is facing her, and the camera just drops??? Kinda confused
>here...
In the beginning of the film they interview a man who tells about a child
murderer in the town during the 1940's. He kidnapped 7 children and took them
to his cabin the woods and killed them in the cellar. He killed them two at a
time, making one face the corner as he killed the other, since he couldn't
stand being looked at while he did it. Thats why the stones are significant.
They originally find 7 piles. 7 piles...7 kids. They then find 3 outside their
tent the next day...representing them. The end scene is supposed to mirror the
modus operandi of the child killer....Heather is killed as Mike is forced to
face the corner. Maybe it makes more sense now...
Kremlar
see someone come up with something that isn't just a rehash of another
movie (which seems everything is nowadays).
Lighting was fine in the movie - of course the dark scenes are meant
to be dark.
As for your opinion... look at the thread title.
Maybe 'I missed the beginning, but I don't like what I saw' would have
been a more realistic title.
Danger3210 <dange...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19990801170047...@ng-fz1.aol.com...
> Kremlar wrote:
>
> >It's too bad when some people can't appreciate a good, unique film.
>
> Is it just me or are a lot of people digging this film just because it's
> "different"... Just because it's "different" doesn't always make it
good...
>
> >Then need the typical hollywood glitz, gore, action to enjoy.
>
> If the typical Hollywood glitz is basic lighting, then yes I need the
typical
> Hollywood glitz... A little action wouldn't hurt either...
>
> >Just so you know, you're in the minority - check the reviews and
newsgroups.
>
> And this changes my opinion??? Just because someone else thinks it's good,
> doesn't mean I must follow... Also, just because I say it's bad, doesn't
mean
> you shouldn't watch it... I just gave my own opinion on the movie... Also,
it
> must be known that I missed the beginning... Maybe, if I saw the whole
movie I
> would have thought otherwise...
>
>
> G R E A T O N E Q U O T E S - - - >
>
> "THE ROCK is without a shadow of a doubt the BEST DAMN WWF Champ there
ever
> was..."
>
> "THE ROCK is feelin good and HE's damn sure lookin good..."
>
> "THE ROCK has got a very big hand, ha and you know what that means... That
> means HE's gonna lay the smack down on ya whenever HE damn well
pleases!!!"
>
>
Danger3210
>>And what's even funnier is that this movie is rated R, but the
>>only gorey shit that I saw was a few bloody fingers and a tongue (I
>think)...
>>This movie should have been rated G... I've seen scarier shit in my stool...
>
>Are you saying that the only thing worth an R rating is blood and
>guts? The coarse language & the content is what earned an R rating.
So some kids running around in the dark gave it an R rating, huh??? I guess the
censors are really getting sensitive nowadays...
>I'm sorry if the movie didn't deliver guys running around with
>chainsaws cutting up people...
Hmmmmm, now if the movie ended like that, instead of ending with a guy with his
back to the camera, then maybe I would have took the hour buildup of nothing...
>I'm sorry if the movie didn't deliver
>cool little stalking music that went with all of the scary scenes, so
>we would know what would be happening in what scene...
The movie's silence didn't really bother me... My friend hated that though...
>I'm sorry if
>this movie didn't have enough blood and gore for you.
Yeah, me too... Now if the girl looked around the roof of the shack at the end
and saw her friend crucified or something, then I would have been satisfied...
>Hell, if that
>was what you were looking for, then why didn't you just stay home and
>rent any of the other 50,000,000 titles that have this?
Good point...
>Oh...and I think those were teeth Heather found.
Some girl behind me said she saw a whole face... go figure...
>>Come on... And I really expected much more from this movie... My friend
>almost
>>killed me for dragging him to see it... Every few minutes he would say,
>"Let's
>>just leave..." And I would say no because I knew the first second I leave,
>then
>>all of the good shit starts happening... But nothing... Even the end had no
>>kind of climax or scary face... ANYTHING!!! ANYTHING IS MUCH SCARIER THAN
>>NOTHING!!!
>
>It's called USE YOUR FUCKING IMAGINATION!
Huh??? I...ma...gin...a...tion???
> Open your fucking eyes for
>a minute!
My eyes were open... Can't say the same for my friend... I think he dosed off a
few times...
>Aren't you getting sick and tired of being spoon fed
>everything in horror movies? The ending to this movie was so open to
>interpretation, it's not even funny. Everyone has their own little
>theories, and that's what made it good.
Hey Zipp, did you ever see that Simpson Halloween Special with The Raven and
one part of the story, Homer opens the door and it's nothing but darkness and
Bart says...
"You know what would have been scarier than nothing???"
Lisa: What???
Bart: ANYTHING!!!
I'm feeling like Bart right about now...
>>And when I saw "THE END", I just sat there and said, "WHAT???" As
>>the credits rolled, my mouth just dropped open as I stood there in shock...
>>Meanwhile, my friend who is still concious asks a girl behind us just what
>the
>>HELL is going on... And then I see the copyright and it says "1999"... Then
>I
>>realize that this is THE WORST MOVIE EVER!!! To make a movie this bad in
>1999
>>is almost unbelievable... It doesn't even look like a real movie... Now I
>>understand they try to make it as realistic as possible like watching a home
>>movie, but this technique fails because you can barely see just what the
>hell
>>is going on...
>
>You're not supposed to see what is going on, dammit! You're supposed
>to see exactly what the filmmakers saw. You're supposed to hear
>exactly what the filmmakers heard. You're supposed to know exactly
>what the filmmakers knew. You're supposed to use your fucking
>imagination to fill in the fucking blanks!
>
There's that word again...
>Dange, you've got my blood boiling more then ever right now! Keep it
>coming!
Calm down, man... I'm getting scared...
>>The fact of the matter is that this movie was more funny than
>>scary... and could these kids be any whiter??? Every sentence ended with
>"man"
>>or "dude"...
>
>Hey...I had no problem that the kids making this movie were a couple
>of suburban white kids. No colored folk in the movie = no colored
>folk getting killed within the first minute of the movie...that really
>pisses me off.
True... BUT, the dialogue really got annoying after awhile...
>>
>>"You hear that, dude???"
>>
>>"Yeah dude, let's run!!!"
>>
>>That's basically the whole movie right there...
>
>MOTHERFUCK! Didn't you miss like half of the movie anyway? Until you
>see the entire movie, you can't really say what the whole movie was,
>because you really didn't know what the fuck was going on!
True, that's the only defense I have for the film...
>>Thank GOD, I didn't pay to see
>>it and I still wanted a refund or some sort... If you want to see a very
>funny
>>movie then go watch it... BUT, if you are expecting the supposedly "scariest
>>movie in years", then stay your ass home and watch Barney or something
>because
>>that is much much MUCH scarier...
>>
>>Purple smiley fat dinosaurs freak me out... That and clowns... I HATE
>CLOWNS...
>
>Fuck clowns...go see The Blair Witch Project.
Hey if clowns started running toward the camera near the end, I would have
pissed in my pants...
>It's all about realism,
Realism is overrated...
>and it's all about using your imagination.
To quote a great man, "Imagination sucks... huh huh eh huh huh..."
>This movie was so *real,* it wasn't even funny.
I still wasn't impressed...
>Everyone had a
>realistic angle. Everyone had realistic dialogue (they cut out all of
>the corny shit...it's still in the "director's cut" though).
>
>In addition, the movie was very open to interpretation. The
>filmmakers left so many blanks for you to fill in. Instead of making
>a regular old horror movie where we knew everything that was about to
>happen, they made a movie where WE DIDN'T KNOW SHIT, and we are
>supposed to fill in the blanks ourselves. That makes a good movie,
>not this formula horror shit that we're all used to.
Ahhhhh, that's too much work... I'm too lazy to fill in the blanks...
>Bottom line is this. You want blood, if you want to see guts, if you
>want to be spoon fed everything, go see any of the other "horror"
>movies that deliver this.
>If you want to be psychologically freaked out, if you want a movie
>that will not fill in the blanks for you, if you want a movie that
>will make you use your imagination, then go see The Blair Witch
>Project.
>
>The Blair Witch Project was the best horror movie EVER, and I will
>defend that argument to the grave.
Hey Zipp, maybe you have been taking too many long trips to deserted forests...
Anyway, maybe I should see the whole movie before I pass judgment on it... I
agree that the whole "slasher" type horror movie is played out and I thought
that this movie would be different and it was but it still SUCKED to me... Very
disappointing but maybe I need to see the whole thing...
Ethan Hammond
>
> On 01 Aug 1999 21:00:47 GMT, dange...@aol.com (Danger3210) wrote:
>
> >Kremlar wrote:
> >
> >>It's too bad when some people can't appreciate a good, unique film.
> >
> >Is it just me or are a lot of people digging this film just because it's
> >"different"... Just because it's "different" doesn't always make it good...
>
> what made this movie good.
>
> Another thing I liked about the movie (but failed to mention) was the
> fact that it had an "anti-ending." There was no "happily ever after."
> I have been waiting for YEARS for a movie to come along like this (I
> even wrote my English final on the subject...got an A on the paper),
> and I was happy to see BWP deliver.
What about The Empire Strikes Back?
--
All Purpose Cultural Randomness
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/apcr/index.html
-=Zipp=-
wrote:
>>First of all, it's not new and cutting edge. Several other films have
>>been filmed similar to this.
>
>Oh really? Name one.
Oh...there was also a TV movie that came out a few years ago, Without
Warning. It was a movie made to look like a breaking news story about
an alien invasion. It was a homage to War of the Worlds, and hundreds
of people thought it was real, despite the fact that TONS of
disclaimers flashed throughout the movie.
-=Zipp=-
>Kremlar wrote:
>
>>It's too bad when some people can't appreciate a good, unique film.
>
>Is it just me or are a lot of people digging this film just because it's
>"different"... Just because it's "different" doesn't always make it good...
You're correct on that account, but in this case, being different is
what made this movie good.
Another thing I liked about the movie (but failed to mention) was the
fact that it had an "anti-ending." There was no "happily ever after."
I have been waiting for YEARS for a movie to come along like this (I
even wrote my English final on the subject...got an A on the paper),
and I was happy to see BWP deliver.
Professer Revolution
It still doesn;t help the film any, I knew all of this and it was still
boring...the 7 and 7 thing and the whole ending was cheap, and could be found
in any movie. But somehow since everyone's been told that this is some brand
new, cutting edge movie, it's completely NEW and AMAZING!
Like another post said: It's a good idea, but pulled off horribly.
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person twists the legend every which way. One of my friends pointed
out that the movie was sort of a combo of the different stories
different people were telling. The different stories was just another
element of realism.>>
And it still didn't help the movie. Foreshadowing, great. That's something
new. How about throwing in some suprises or something? I realize foreshadowing
is a needed part of any movie, but so is ACTION (and I don;t mean car chase
type). The only time anything good happened was the aforementioned tent scene
with the little kids laughing. After that I thought maybe the movie would pick
up..but no, back to walking around...yay.
Professer Revolution
The beginning, if you had paid attention, tells you the significance of :
1) the stones in the woods :
2) why there were 7 piles of them
3) what would happen if you disturbed the stones
4) The significance of the house in the woods
5) The methods of murder employed by said serial killer of the 1940's.
6) The belief of the local townsfolk that what was going on was real...
7) Coffin Rock
and
8) The correlation of the witch and the serial killer....and the children.
Seems like a lot of info to me.
>>
Well, I guess I should've said..the beginning set up SHIT. I knew all this ,
and it was still a boring movie. Oh, 7 piles for the dead kids, it's a
graveyard...big deal, big boring deal.
<<>I disliked it because NOTHING HAPPENS, a major fucking plot point is that
>they
>see the same friggin LOG after walking all day. Oh, how original.>>
<<It's called 'getting lost' which is real. It would happen to me or you.
Their
reactions also serve to display their growing hysteria and frustrations. And
besides, the whole time of day seens add up to very little screen time.>>
And it's boring too...And are you nuts? Daytime doesn't add up to much screen
time?! It's more than half the film! Out of 2 hours, at least an hour and a
half is spent with them whining and bitching in the day.
<<>If realism means boring, then I guess you have a point there...>>
<<Perhaps the most realistic thing about the movie is the audience's reaction
to
it. Those who went in expecting to be spoonfed everything was disappointed,
and those who wanted to pay attention were pleasantly surprised. Just like
real life.>>
Oh, so now I don;t know how to watch a movie? Nice subtle insult. I purposely
avoided any reviews or anything about the movie because I heard that was the
best way to go into it. And no, I don;t like being spoonfed everything, but I
do like movies where SOMETHING HAPPENS. Not just endless scenes of walking
around and yelling setting up a total of 7 minutes or so of "scare" time. I
didn't know what to expect going in, and I was dissapointed as hell on the way
out. And hey, I'm real life.
<<
You go watch any other movie out now and tell me the dialogue is more
realistic. Care to try Wild Wild West? Deep Blue Sea? What makes the above
quote realistic is that anyone would've said it under such circumstances. You,
me, and nearly anyone else. Which is a lot more realistic than half of the
trash out there now.>>
Well, I was having a conversation about increasing the brain-mass of sharks the
other day but...Anyway, yes the dialouge may be more realistic than other
movies, but it doesn't make it "good."
<<>Yeah...the beginning does so much. We're supposed to get to know the
>characters, so it's harder for us to deal with their trials and
>tribulations...>>
<<Actually, you're not supposed to know too much about the characters...just
the
basics.>>
Which again, sucks. They were annoying 15 minutes in and I really didn't care
if they died. Which everyone knows they were going to anyway...
<<>Well, which enthralling depiction "scared" you the most. The two guys
>fishing?
>Oohhh, a creepy gray floating thing. The lady with the kid? Yeah, two dead
>hunters, whatever. Crazy Mary? Oh help me, a hairy lady flashed her. >>
<<Again, there were not any frightening parts at the beginning, and the spooks
didn't really occur until the second night in the movie. Stop being a
dimwit.>>
And you stop being the almghtly movie goer god telling me why I should like a
horrible movie, sparky. The "stories" were supposed to give an air of mystery
around the woods, maybe make the watcher a little nervous or something...which
they didn't. At least not me, and I'm real life.
<<>And if this story, or myth or whatever was bad enough for the town to
>change it;s name, why would the townsfolk be so open to talk about it with
>these 3 morons?>>
<<It wasn't bad enough to change its name, but rather the notoriety of being
home
to serial killer prompted the change. Again, pay attention. And people talk
when asked...you can go knock on the door of any one who lived near or knew of
a mass murderer and get thoughts and history about it. Re : the recent Atlanta
slayings. >>
Same thing, it had to do with the killings so they changed the name. I was
paying attention, I know because I had to concentrate on the friggin movie just
not to fall asleep. And I sure wouldn't walk around flaunting my town's
murders, which there are alot of. And I'd just as soon turn away some stupid
film student with a hand camera. And I'm real life.
<<>And just because you "think" you are supporting
>out-of-the-mainstream flim makers doesn;t mean you should call every piece of
>independant crap good either.
Actually, I really dislike many independent films, and do my best to avoid it.
I expected the same of the BWP. The last movies I saw that were good that
would be considered 'independent' would be "Life is Beautiful" and "Night of
the Living Dead." As you can tell, I watch indy movies allllll the time.
<sigh>>>
That was just a little venting from another discussion bleeding into this
one...my mistake for making assumptions.
<<>I may have to go see "Deep Blue Sea," it'll probably seem
>Shakespearean compared to the BWP.
>
<<BWP never claimed to be Shakespearean. And if you went into the film
expecting
that much, and expecting it to be a special effects extravaganza, then you
already had formed opinions about it. Just like real life.>>
I came into BWP expecting a good movie, that's why I paid the money to see it.
No I don;t need big special effect or anything, if I did I would've gone to see
The Haunting which "looks" cool but seems very bad. Like most of Dream Works
stuff. The only opinion about the movie I had was that it was worth the $7 to
see, but that was soon disproven. And hey, I'm real life and I say the movie
SUCKS.
Professer Revolution
consider to be a good movie?
>>
Hmmm...Judge Dredd? j/k I just noticed it was on now. I really can;t recall the
last good movie I went out to see...the last 4 times have been big let-downs.
I like alot of Tim Burton's stuff, looking foward to "Sleepy Hollow" as well.
Down By Law was good. Now there's a good movie where there isn;t much "action"
but the characters and their "adventures"are interesting enough to keep you
watching. I'm kind of a "kung fu" movie freak too. "The 5 Deadly Venoms" is
good in that genre. I just rented "Pie"(the symbol) and thought that was
pretty cool.
I really don't have a "preferred" genre, I just try to go into a movie
open-minded. Sometime I like it, and sometimes I hate it to the point of anger
that I spent money on it. And in this case, BWP was the latter.
Todd Dalrymple
order to be scared. I, for one, went into the theatre hoping to be scared
shitless, but i walked out saying "what the hell did I just watch". The
ending was cool as hell, but the rest was just boring. The movie went a
little something like this:
1) they lay the groundwork for the ending, telling the details of what Parr
did to the children
2) they get lost in the woods
3) they hear things while camping
4)- 7) repeat 2 and 3 a couple times, and Josh disapears
8) The remaining 2 hear josh screaming, and run into Parr's old house, and
are bumped.
The only part that really got to me was the ending, the rest just bored me.
HBK316
JoeyB307
>
>
>>>
Thats untrue. It doesnt just take lots of Hollywood crap to make people like a
movie or think its scary. I mean, The Haunting was just plain out
horrible(worse then Batman and Robin), and it had tons of effects. I mean, the
Haunting really stank like dirty cunt. The Blair Witch project was ok in the
sense that it was old school and mad you use your mind to get scared and all
that, but it sucked in every other aspect. It didnt even look like a real home
video(meaning the picture quality). I heard awsome and scary and the best
thing ever, and was completely let down by this movie. It was a cool concept
and they succeded with the imagination, but the movie sucked. Bottom line,
dont waste your money.....wait for video and watch it.
IIchIEfII
>
>WHAT?! The beginning doesn;t set up SHIT! All they do is meet each other,
>talk
>to a couple townsfolk(which doesn;t accomplish SQUAT, they each tell a
>different story which confuses more than "intrigues
listen. because you cant draw any value, or anythign out of th ebeginning
doesnt make it that way. the beginning serves to create a bit of mystique about
the documentary, to show that it might just be soemthing like the jersey devil
or sasquash or whatever. a local myth. maybe you are just inable to recognize
that or comprehend it. i dont know.
>
>I disliked it because NOTHING HAPPENS,
a lot happened. because it wasnt very flashy or whatever, you might perceive it
as nothing. you might choose to call them runing around and becoming flustered
by different things as nothign because youd rather see them running around in a
boiler room in a dream while a guy with claws chases after them.
>
>Oh yeah, have some people yell "What the fuck was that man!" and the dialouge
>is somehow "real." The characters sucked, just like the rest of the movie.
>
i think thats a bit unfair. in most hollywood movies, dialogue is rather
forced. it seemed to flow most of the time in this movie, like people might
actually say it in that occurance. character development was rather good
concerning the girl, but with the jay guy who went crazy, i missed that. maybe
it was me.
>.All I got out of it was 3 annoying students got together to
>annoy me and give me a headache with their home movies.
you might want to try lookng a little deeper. i mean what can i say? if soem
peopel got it and you didnt, it should be a perfectly viable option tha tyou
just missed it. maybe go backa nd watch it againw itha bit more attention for
minor things.
>Well, which enthralling depiction "scared" you the most. The two guys
>fishing?
>Oohhh, a creepy gra
<buncha crap snipped>
like i said, it served to add to the mystique.
>
>change it;s name, why would the townsfolk be so open to talk about it with
>these 3 morons?
im sure if your town siad that it was changing its name caus eit was ashamed of
some huge...whatever, that you might not agree with it and might reveal
something about the story.
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IIchIEfII
>But I need something to be scared about... I need an image... Sure, the
>unknown
what would you find more frightening?Being chased in the woods my something you
saw and knew to be dangerous, or being chased int he woods by some unknown
person or thing with an unknown amount of powers? i mean, if i saw a guy with
an axe running after me or a guy witha flamethrower, id till know that if i
can keep up my stamina and run away from him and at least keep him distant but
in sight, that id be pretty safe. on the other hand, if be much more terrified
by not knowing where trouble may lie and that my every move might be brigning
me closer to my attacker...
IIchIEfII
>>chainsaws cutting up people...
>
>Hmmmmm, now if the movie ended like that, instead of ending with a guy with
>his
>back to the camera, then maybe I would have took the hour buildup of
>nothing...
>
i think ending with anything but that would have been a cop out. we dotn really
know what killed her, but i was like, "oh, shit, i guess that witch thing or
someone pretending to be it got to her." and i didnt know what it was, but i
knew, you know? i was thinking after i saw it, and i was like, "i wish i had
seen what it was, or there was more to the movie at the end." but then i
realized that if there were more, it would have taken away...something. no one
knew for sure what happened, no one at all. if you say soemthing, tid be like,
oh lets find this and get rid of it. not knowing what it was adds up to
helplessness.
>>this movie didn't have enough blood and gore for you.
>
>Yeah, me too... Now if the girl looked around the roof of the shack at the
>end
>and saw her friend crucified or something, then I would have been
>satisfied...
i dont know. no reason for him to be crucified. think what she mustve though,
no coherently but in a "oh shit, its all coming into place sorta way." she
realized that it was all true, and that what the people told eh was true, and
she mustve felt some sort of helplessness cause it meant that she would be
killed right then. i can feel what she mightve felt and it doesnt feel good.
you ahve to look at it in a cetain way.
>t says...
>
>"You know what would have been scarier than nothing???"
>
>Lisa: What???
>
>Bart: ANYTHING!!!
>
>I'm feeling like Bart right about now...
also remember bart represents a portion of the american population who is good
hearted but is inept in terms of anything intellectual.
>, the dialogue really got annoying after awhile...
>
i can see that. i thought a lot of it was really, really funny. it made sense,
but it also was liek listening in to a conversation of a few people you dont
know that well.
i didnt think it was that scary. i agree, there were a few times tha tif
something big happened, that i wouldve been scared, but those things were never
delivered. and a lot of the movie was funny, and the ways the characters
reacted to stress was really frustrating because i wouldve said fuck you to the
two guys and RAN my ass off by myself to get out of there before whatever that
shit was got me. but you have to watch it and look for the little things and
appreciate them rather than waiting for something big to happen. i guess not
everyone can do that.
-=Zipp=-
Revolution ) wrote:
> I like alot of Tim Burton's stuff, looking foward to "Sleepy Hollow" as well.
Oh, I am DEFINITELY looking foward to Sleepy Hollow! Johnny Depp,
Christina Ricci, Christopher Walken, & Ian F'N! McDiarmid make for a
damn good movie.
>I just rented "Pie"(the symbol) and thought that was
>pretty cool.
My best friend's cousin wrote or directed it or something like that.
-=Zipp=-
<esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>What about The Empire Strikes Back?
Part of a huge series of movies. By the very end, everyone's living
on easy street.
-=Zipp=-
>>>And what's even funnier is that this movie is rated R, but the
>>>only gorey shit that I saw was a few bloody fingers and a tongue (I
>>think)...
>>>This movie should have been rated G... I've seen scarier shit in my stool...
>>
>>Are you saying that the only thing worth an R rating is blood and
>>guts? The coarse language & the content is what earned an R rating.
>
>So some kids running around in the dark gave it an R rating, huh??? I guess the
>censors are really getting sensitive nowadays...
Well...I'm just saying that I've never seen a PG-13 movie that used
the phrase "fucking asshole" so many times.
>
>>I'm sorry if the movie didn't deliver guys running around with
>>chainsaws cutting up people...
>
>Hmmmmm, now if the movie ended like that, instead of ending with a guy with his
>back to the camera, then maybe I would have took the hour buildup of nothing...
The guy with his back to the camera was playing up on the Blair Witch
legend itself...the legend that's explained earlier in the movie.
>
>>I'm sorry if the movie didn't deliver
>>cool little stalking music that went with all of the scary scenes, so
>>we would know what would be happening in what scene...
>
>The movie's silence didn't really bother me... My friend hated that though...
Damn your friend...damn him to HELL! Sorry...I had to say that
somewhere in this post.
>
>>I'm sorry if
>>this movie didn't have enough blood and gore for you.
>
>Yeah, me too... Now if the girl looked around the roof of the shack at the end
>and saw her friend crucified or something, then I would have been satisfied...
I think that a crucifixion may have been a bit too "Hollywoody,"
though. It more then likely would have felt too much like a B-movie,
and plus, that would have filled in a blank or two for us...and you
know how much I would have hated that...
>
>>Hell, if that
>>was what you were looking for, then why didn't you just stay home and
>>rent any of the other 50,000,000 titles that have this?
>
>Good point...
>
>>Oh...and I think those were teeth Heather found.
>
>Some girl behind me said she saw a whole face... go figure...
A face? Now...that's taking it WAY too far. I've seen the scene in
question three times, and each time, I see at least one tooth...one of
those back teeth...a molar maybe?
>
>>>Come on... And I really expected much more from this movie... My friend
>>almost
>>>killed me for dragging him to see it... Every few minutes he would say,
>>"Let's
>>>just leave..." And I would say no because I knew the first second I leave,
>>then
>>>all of the good shit starts happening... But nothing... Even the end had no
>>>kind of climax or scary face... ANYTHING!!! ANYTHING IS MUCH SCARIER THAN
>>>NOTHING!!!
>>
>>It's called USE YOUR FUCKING IMAGINATION!
>
>Huh??? I...ma...gin...a...tion???
The same thing your own personal Jesus Chris, THE ROCK, uses to pen
each and every one of his interviews...
>
>> Open your fucking eyes for
>>a minute!
>
>My eyes were open... Can't say the same for my friend... I think he dosed off a
>few times...
Damn your friend, damn him to HELL! Sorry...
>
>>Aren't you getting sick and tired of being spoon fed
>>everything in horror movies? The ending to this movie was so open to
>>interpretation, it's not even funny. Everyone has their own little
>>theories, and that's what made it good.
>
>Hey Zipp, did you ever see that Simpson Halloween Special with The Raven and
>one part of the story, Homer opens the door and it's nothing but darkness and
>Bart says...
>
>"You know what would have been scarier than nothing???"
>
>Lisa: What???
>
>Bart: ANYTHING!!!
>
>I'm feeling like Bart right about now...
Yeah...and just like it is revealed in that one episode, all Simpson
men are stupid...
>
>>>And when I saw "THE END", I just sat there and said, "WHAT???" As
>>>the credits rolled, my mouth just dropped open as I stood there in shock...
>>>Meanwhile, my friend who is still concious asks a girl behind us just what
>>the
>>>HELL is going on... And then I see the copyright and it says "1999"... Then
>>I
>>>realize that this is THE WORST MOVIE EVER!!! To make a movie this bad in
>>1999
>>>is almost unbelievable... It doesn't even look like a real movie... Now I
>>>understand they try to make it as realistic as possible like watching a home
>>>movie, but this technique fails because you can barely see just what the
>>hell
>>>is going on...
>>
>>You're not supposed to see what is going on, dammit! You're supposed
>>to see exactly what the filmmakers saw. You're supposed to hear
>>exactly what the filmmakers heard. You're supposed to know exactly
>>what the filmmakers knew. You're supposed to use your fucking
>>imagination to fill in the fucking blanks!
>>
>
>There's that word again...
Damn right!
>
>>Dange, you've got my blood boiling more then ever right now! Keep it
>>coming!
>
>Calm down, man... I'm getting scared...
Don't worry...I've calmed down since earlier.
>
>
>
>>>The fact of the matter is that this movie was more funny than
>>>scary... and could these kids be any whiter??? Every sentence ended with
>>"man"
>>>or "dude"...
>>
>>Hey...I had no problem that the kids making this movie were a couple
>>of suburban white kids. No colored folk in the movie = no colored
>>folk getting killed within the first minute of the movie...that really
>>pisses me off.
>
>True... BUT, the dialogue really got annoying after awhile...
Well...that's not a problem with the movie, that's a problem with
surburban college bound white kids...
>
>>>
>>>"You hear that, dude???"
>>>
>>>"Yeah dude, let's run!!!"
>>>
>>>That's basically the whole movie right there...
>>
>>MOTHERFUCK! Didn't you miss like half of the movie anyway? Until you
>>see the entire movie, you can't really say what the whole movie was,
>>because you really didn't know what the fuck was going on!
>
>True, that's the only defense I have for the film...
So why don't you get someone else to pay for you, and see the whole
movie again, in its entirety? If you don't like it, heckle the shit
out of it! I was sitting right next to these two guys, and at the
very end, one guy yelled "Dude, my dick just shriveled up." It might
have killed the mood, but I was cracking up to no end.
>
>>>Thank GOD, I didn't pay to see
>>>it and I still wanted a refund or some sort... If you want to see a very
>>funny
>>>movie then go watch it... BUT, if you are expecting the supposedly "scariest
>>>movie in years", then stay your ass home and watch Barney or something
>>because
>>>that is much much MUCH scarier...
>>>
>>>Purple smiley fat dinosaurs freak me out... That and clowns... I HATE
>>CLOWNS...
>>
>>Fuck clowns...go see The Blair Witch Project.
>
>Hey if clowns started running toward the camera near the end, I would have
>pissed in my pants...
I can only laugh when I think of that ending...
Mike is running downstairs when all of a sudden he trips. He looks
up, and there stands Doink, Dink, Wink, and Pink, smiling, surrounding
him...
>
>>It's all about realism,
>
>Realism is overrated...
Not true.
>
>>and it's all about using your imagination.
>
>To quote a great man, "Imagination sucks... huh huh eh huh huh..."
Fly, lesbian seagalls...
>
>>This movie was so *real,* it wasn't even funny.
>
>I still wasn't impressed...
>
>>Everyone had a
>>realistic angle. Everyone had realistic dialogue (they cut out all of
>>the corny shit...it's still in the "director's cut" though).
>>
>>In addition, the movie was very open to interpretation. The
>>filmmakers left so many blanks for you to fill in. Instead of making
>>a regular old horror movie where we knew everything that was about to
>>happen, they made a movie where WE DIDN'T KNOW SHIT, and we are
>>supposed to fill in the blanks ourselves. That makes a good movie,
>>not this formula horror shit that we're all used to.
>
>Ahhhhh, that's too much work... I'm too lazy to fill in the blanks...
Well get off your ass then, Dange! Start drinking milk!
>
>>Bottom line is this. You want blood, if you want to see guts, if you
>>want to be spoon fed everything, go see any of the other "horror"
>>movies that deliver this.
>>If you want to be psychologically freaked out, if you want a movie
>>that will not fill in the blanks for you, if you want a movie that
>>will make you use your imagination, then go see The Blair Witch
>>Project.
>>
>>The Blair Witch Project was the best horror movie EVER, and I will
>>defend that argument to the grave.
>
>Hey Zipp, maybe you have been taking too many long trips to deserted forests...
Heh heh...
>Anyway, maybe I should see the whole movie before I pass judgment on it... I
>agree that the whole "slasher" type horror movie is played out and I thought
>that this movie would be different and it was but it still SUCKED to me... Very
>disappointing but maybe I need to see the whole thing...
Yeah...just see the whole thing...at least.
Adam Short
>Bottom line,
>dont waste your money.....wait for video and watch it.
Bottom line....you either love it or you hate it. I for one loved it and think
that it was well worth the money. Just make your own decision.
Adam Short
>do like movies where SOMETHING HAPPENS. Not just endless scenes of walking
>around and yelling setting up a total of 7 minutes or so of "scare" time. I
>didn't know what to expect going in, and I was dissapointed as hell on the
>way
>out. And hey, I'm real life.
>
>
So you're telling me that you find nothing frightening about being alone in the
dark woods, lost, with some unknown things running around, beating on your
tent...laughing like children, leaving stuff outside of your tent..and
kidnapping your friends? I think you'd have second thoughts about going to the
woods at night after seeing this movie, whether you'll admit it or not.
Crow-T...@webtv.net
was one of those things that you are suppose to figure out for yourself.
The first time they see the rocks there are seven, which represents the
seven kids dieing. Then later they find three rock piles representing
there own deaths. I bet you none of the people who said they hated the
movie noticed this.
Final Thought...If you have ever read a book for the fun of it you will
love this movie.
Professer Revolution
the rock scene was totally awesome if you really thought about it. It
was one of those things that you are suppose to figure out for yourself.
The first time they see the rocks there are seven, which represents the
seven kids dieing. Then later they find three rock piles representing
there own deaths. I bet you none of the people who said they hated the
movie noticed this. >>
As I said in an earlier post...I knew this, and it didn't help any.
<<Final Thought...If you have ever read a book for the fun of it you will
love this movie.
>>
I read all the time, and I hated this movie. Your point?
Professer Revolution
So you're telling me that you find nothing frightening about being alone in the
dark woods, lost, with some unknown things running around, beating on your
tent...laughing like children, leaving stuff outside of your tent..and
kidnapping your friends? I think you'd have second thoughts about going to the
woods at night after seeing this movie, whether you'll admit it or not.
>>
Yeah if it was happening to me I'd be pretty freaked, but the movie was too
boring to get into, and the characters sucked so I didn't care what happened to
them. Hence, I wasn't scared...Hell, I've been to Maryland and I was scared the
entire time, and I didn't even see any woods.
Adam Short
>Yeah if it was happening to me I'd be pretty freaked, but the movie was too
>boring to get into, and the characters sucked so I didn't care what happened
>to
>them. Hence, I wasn't scared..
I can see where you're coming from. I think that for this movie, you have to
let yourself get immersed in it. I didn't give two craps about the characters
either...but it didn't matter because I was totally in the mindset of being in
that situation...and when I thought about that, I was freaked out.
Ethan Hammond
>
> On Sun, 01 Aug 1999 22:41:50 -0500, Ethan Hammond
> <esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >What about The Empire Strikes Back?
>
> Part of a huge series of movies. By the very end, everyone's living
> on easy street.
You mean by the end of Return of the Jedi right cause Han Solo
can't be having too good of a time at the end of Empire.
abar...@tampabay.r
wrote:
>>First of all, it's not new and cutting edge. Several other films have
>>been filmed similar to this.
>
>Oh really? Name one.
>
Does anyone remember that special (I think it was on Fox or A&E) that
was about an Alien Abduction caught live on tape? The prefixed it by
saying that a family has dissapeared and the only clues were of a
videotape found in their house. It was shot by a kid who was
videotaping a birthday party. The power goes out and they go to
investigate and the fuse box is melted. They look out in the pasture
and see Aliens mutilating a cow. The aliens see them and they run back
in the house in a panic. The whole thing was very similar to Blair
Witch.
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>
> On Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:50:45 -0400, "Zor Prime" <harv...@juno.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>First of all, it's not new and cutting edge. Several other films have
> >>been filmed similar to this.
> >
> >Oh really? Name one.
> >
> Does anyone remember that special (I think it was on Fox or A&E) that
> was about an Alien Abduction caught live on tape? The prefixed it by
> saying that a family has dissapeared and the only clues were of a
> videotape found in their house. It was shot by a kid who was
> videotaping a birthday party. The power goes out and they go to
> investigate and the fuse box is melted. They look out in the pasture
> and see Aliens mutilating a cow. The aliens see them and they run back
> in the house in a panic. The whole thing was very similar to Blair
> Witch.
>
I saw the BWP movie last week. All I can say, is that I've seen
scarier things in the back of my refrigerator.
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>
> -=Zipp=- wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 01 Aug 1999 22:41:50 -0500, Ethan Hammond
> > <esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >
> > >What about The Empire Strikes Back?
> >
> > Part of a huge series of movies. By the very end, everyone's living
> > on easy street.
>
> You mean by the end of Return of the Jedi right cause Han Solo
> can't be having too good of a time at the end of Empire.
Neither can Luke.
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-=Zipp=-
<esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >What about The Empire Strikes Back?
>>
>> Part of a huge series of movies. By the very end, everyone's living
>> on easy street.
>
>You mean by the end of Return of the Jedi right cause Han Solo
>can't be having too good of a time at the end of Empire.
Yeah...I meant by the end of Return of the Jedi.
rs...@csionline.net
>On 02 Aug 1999 02:12:11 GMT, profr...@aol.comnoSPAM (Professer
>Revolution ) wrote:
>
>> I like alot of Tim Burton's stuff, looking foward to "Sleepy Hollow" as well.
>
>Oh, I am DEFINITELY looking foward to Sleepy Hollow! Johnny Depp,
>Christina Ricci, Christopher Walken, & Ian F'N! McDiarmid make for a
>damn good movie.
>
Ian McDiarmid...the EMPEROR is in it????
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im going to see THAT
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