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Wait, lemme get this straight...so *I'M* jealous? Well, let's check this out:

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Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 11:00:15 AM8/7/03
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I log onto AIM and suddenly I'm innundated with IMs telling me how Whackjob
Henry is at it again ranting and raving like a fucking imbicile lunatic, and
someone pastes this from an IRC conversation last night, or night before:

"I dunno. I guess I just don't get it, and probably never will. I go
through trying to be decent to people and tolerant, and all I get is crap.
A guy like Krusty comes in here, gloats about how wonderfully rich he is,
like that's a measure of his character, and people kiss his ass like it's
made of communion wafer. When did we as a society get so fucking shallow
that integrity means nothing?"

then...

"like this whole Krusty FAQ thing...WTF? It's nothing but an ego trip to
him"

You're frightening, Mr. Genius. I swear to God, you need therapy, NOW.

Stop obsessing over me, please? Do something...ANYTHING...plonk me, ignore
me, whatever you need to do, just quit already, you're embarassing yourself.


Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 11:07:44 AM8/7/03
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That must've been a "red herring"...

lmfao...


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JeffH

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Aug 7, 2003, 11:20:47 AM8/7/03
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>Subject: Wait, lemme get this straight...so *I'M* jealous? Well, let's check
>this out:
>From: "Krusty" rspwk...@yahoo.com
>Date: 8/7/03 8:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <bgtpn3$12mj$1...@news3.infoave.net>
Dude That's totally loony, I've said it before many times and i'll say it many
times more this i know and that is John Henry is a complete wackjob. This isn't
trolling either from RSPW's Trolling Master, It's the honest truth brother.
I've read enough to know that this guy is out of his nutshell and he absolutely
knows itcause he'll ignore/killfile someone the second they get the better of
him. I think someone is a little jealous here but it's not Krusty.

" Kiss my hairy beanbag "


Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 11:23:03 AM8/7/03
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"Steve D. Perkins" <dontwri...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > You're frightening, Mr. Krusty. I swear to God, you need therapy, NOW.
> >
> > Stop obsessing over Chad/John, please? Do something...ANYTHING...
> > plonk them, ignore them, whatever you need to do, just quit already,
> > you're embarassing yourself.

Dude, you're just as in the middle of it as anyone else...in fact, you even
stuck your fatass here in the middle of the thread.

Nice attempt to "rise above it" by wallowing in it though...

And FYI, dickbrain, I haven't been posting here for over a month and as soon
as I come back, I'm pounced on by the perpetually unemployed. Not to mention
the fact that On-the-Dole DeJong feels the need to cry and whine like a
fucking baby whenever someone's not around, but doesn't have the balls to
say shit to them while they're there. So sue me if I take it to a forum
where he can "see" it.

You've got a killfile retard, use it if it pisses you off so much, you
fucking idiot.


Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 11:24:23 AM8/7/03
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"Krusty" <rspwk...@yahoo.com> wrote
[snip]

And by the way, weren't you the asshole who was doing an rspw "news" page a
while back that was taking potshots at the same people?

What, did you lose your memory or something?


JeffH

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Aug 7, 2003, 11:33:24 AM8/7/03
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>Subject: Re: Wait, lemme get this straight...so *I'M* jealous? Well, let's

>check this out:
>From: "Krusty" rspwk...@yahoo.com
>Date: 8/7/03 8:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <bgtr4c$13kq$1...@news3.infoave.net>
SteveDPerk sucks, He always tried to suck up to me on here and in the chat but
JeffH gave him the ahole treatment.

" Kiss my hairy beanbag "


Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 11:41:17 AM8/7/03
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"JeffH" <jeffh...@aol.combyobb> wrote

> SteveDPerk sucks, He always tried to suck up to me on here and in the chat
but
> JeffH gave him the ahole treatment.

Meh...He goes back and forth. He's spent time trying to be "Mr. RSPW" for a
while, hanging in the chat and putting up his own little web pages like
we've all done. Apparently he's swung back in the other direction now. He
runs hot and cold. He's alright sometimes, a minor annoyance others.

I'm just waiting for Tehawk to jump in and crosspost it to 14 kook
newsgroups, going on and on about PKB, and whatnot. I'm sure it'll just take
him waking up this morning. He lives for this shit. I guess our Mr. Perkins
is the second coming of Tehawk now. Jumping into every thread he's incapable
of starting himself, so he can add his "me too! me too!" to it.


Oooh your so cool Brewster

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Aug 7, 2003, 11:59:14 AM8/7/03
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>Subject: Wait, lemme get this straight...so *I'M* jealous? Well, let's check

>this out:
>From: "Krusty" rspwk...@yahoo.com
>Date: 8/7/2003 11:00 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <bgtpn3$12mj$1...@news3.infoave.net>

He seems fixated on your money/wealth/belongings.

Johnny Carwash

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Aug 7, 2003, 11:48:40 AM8/7/03
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"Krusty" <rspwk...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I log onto AIM and suddenly I'm innundated with IMs telling me how Whackjob
>Henry is at it again ranting and raving like a fucking imbicile lunatic, and
>someone pastes this from an IRC conversation last night, or night before:

So a friend of a friend of a friend tracked down these quotes for you?

>
>"I dunno. I guess I just don't get it, and probably never will. I go
>through trying to be decent to people and tolerant, and all I get is crap.
>A guy like Krusty comes in here, gloats about how wonderfully rich he is,
>like that's a measure of his character, and people kiss his ass like it's
>made of communion wafer. When did we as a society get so fucking shallow
>that integrity means nothing?"
>
>then...
>
>"like this whole Krusty FAQ thing...WTF? It's nothing but an ego trip to
>him"
>
>You're frightening, Mr. Genius. I swear to God, you need therapy, NOW.
>
>Stop obsessing over me, please? Do something...ANYTHING...plonk me, ignore
>me, whatever you need to do, just quit already, you're embarassing yourself.
>


You're part of the problem, not the solution. You're almost as bad.

VTY,

Johnny Carwash

johnnyca...@aol.com


"I really don't know clouds at all"

"You cannot make a man become a toilet. It takes a pussy and ass like
Jewel's to charm the man into a piss-drinking stupor." -- Brandon Iron

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Johnny Carwash

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Aug 7, 2003, 12:39:50 PM8/7/03
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"Steve D. Perkins" <dontwri...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> You == Very Angry Guy

And too obsessed to let it go.

Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 1:12:15 PM8/7/03
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"Johnny Carwash" <glav...@hotmail.xom> wrote

> You're part of the problem, not the solution. You're almost as bad.

And your dumbass participation in this thread is what...altruism?

Dipshit.


Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 1:13:36 PM8/7/03
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You == Very Dumbass Poster.

Don't get your panties in a wad if you put your dreck out there and someone
replies. It's a newsgroup, we tend to do that here.


Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 1:49:45 PM8/7/03
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"John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote
>
> *ahem*
>
> Dance. Puppet. Dance.

iow, you've got dick to say...thought so...continue being irrelevant.


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Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 2:19:02 PM8/7/03
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"Steve D. Perkins" <dontwri...@hotmail.com> wrote
> Have you accepted Christ as your savior?

I accepted Lord Jesus Hogan into my heart years ago.


Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 2:20:15 PM8/7/03
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"John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote
> Try again, vermin.

laughing at you ! = your relevancy.


CrossfaceWalls

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Aug 7, 2003, 2:31:43 PM8/7/03
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>From: "Steve D. Perkins" dontwri...@hotmail.com
>Date: 08/07/2003 11:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <Xns93D0713ED33F0g...@130.133.1.4>

>
>> You're frightening, Mr. Krusty. I swear to God, you need therapy, NOW.
>>
>> Stop obsessing over Chad/John, please? Do something...ANYTHING...
>> plonk them, ignore them, whatever you need to do, just quit already,
>> you're embarassing yourself.

Watch it Perkins, this sort of response will get you an angry IM "calling you
out".

******
"On September 11th, we were attacked by Saudi Arabians, based out of Germany,
Afghanastan, and Pakistan. And by that, I mean Iraq." - Bill Maher

CrossfaceWalls= Proud member of the BOB (Band of Brahs)

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Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 2:36:56 PM8/7/03
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"John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote
> Keep on stomping your feet, child. Maybe your buddy can feel sorry for
you
> and paste a few more things to make you feel better.

Okay Mr. Meltdown, whatever you say.

I doubt they'll matter though...they're probably all "red herrings"
anyway...

*snicker*


Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 2:46:57 PM8/7/03
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"Steve D. Perkins" <dontwri...@hotmail.com> wrote
[snip]

I'm not questioning him being relevant in terms of being a topic *of*
conversation (nobody's arguing that he isn't the most fascinating example of
a meltdown in recent memory, and that it's tremendously fun to watch him get
so pissed over Chad selling him out by sending that email to Pete). I'm
talking about him being irrelevant insofar as having *anything* worthwhile
to contribute. He's got nothing.

Go on and argue about what *I* contribute. I could care less, you're not
going to stop me from having opinions about people and expressing them here
where we all live and post. But he's got nothing but an abortive website
that's been revealed as nothing more than a way for him to try and cash in
off of the collective works of an entire group of people. It's
pathetic...but again, it's just par for the course for our resident failure
and k00k.


Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 2:48:46 PM8/7/03
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"John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote
> /me starts a "posedown" chant

Why, you gonna post more pics of your dong and a hooker? Remember, you wrote
the book on posting embarrassing shit. I just lifted a chapter.


CrossfaceWalls

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Aug 7, 2003, 2:56:12 PM8/7/03
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>From: "Steve D. Perkins" dontwri...@hotmail.com
>Date: 08/07/2003 2:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <Xns93D0948EF82ADg...@130.133.1.4>

>
>> laughing at you ! = your relevancy.
>
>
> Well, not to take John's "side" by any stretch of the imagination
>here, but that's kind of silly. Of course JoHo is "relevant", for the
>reasons he just gave... he has been an RSPW topic of conversation (and
>obsession) for years. Whether it's "positive conversation" or "negative
>conversation" or just "ridicule" isn't really an issue, the fact remains
>that by definition John is probably more "relevant" to RSPW culture than
>any topic other than wrestling (or perhaps racial jokes, depending on the
>group's mood that day). He's actually more relevant than you are... he
>gets talked about all the time, people only mention you in between your
>tantrum walkouts.

Furthermore, there are times when John Henry tries to participate in a thread
about wrestling, only to have the inevitable Cain/Panaro obsession fireball
come rolling through, as well as Mr On-Topic Flame Proof Krustola show up (When
he isn't off on another indifference imposed sabbatical) and start picking
apart JH's words to find some sort of Hardy Boys/OMEGA reference and accuse
John of using the thread as a chance to put himself and his past in the
business over.

>YOU yourself started this thread about him... so it's pretty dumb to
>start a conversation about something and then halfway through declare that
>thing to be irrelevant to the conversation. My guess is that you were just
>throwing insults around at random, and that particular adjective slipped
>through without having been thought through very well. Of course at this
>point you could change direction and insult John-and/or-myself in some
>different fashion, or you make the choice to stubbornly defend yourself as
>"right" and dig the hole deeper in a 1,000-replies-deep thread explaining
>yourself.

Mind you, this a guy who last year came on here and wrote out some long rant
about the whole flame war between him, Chad, JH, etc....saying he was going to
be above it all from now on, and only talk about "cool" issues, and not respond
to them, and that if he did, he wanted RSPW to call him on it. And a soon as I
did when he went back to the old ways, he flipped out and ripped in to me, much
the way he ripped into you.

In the end, it's stupid, childish bullshit, but I really can't help but laugh
at someone who spends an amazing amount of time protesting about how he's not a
kook..........ACTING LIKE A KOOK.

>Guess which choice I'm betting on? :)

Even money says you're correct.

Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 3:06:42 PM8/7/03
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"CrossfaceWalls" <crossfa...@aol.comBOB> wrote

> In the end, it's stupid, childish bullshit, but I really can't help but
laugh
> at someone who spends an amazing amount of time protesting about how he's
not a
> kook..........ACTING LIKE A KOOK.

Yeah, I *do* get sucked into the JHD void of idiocy every now and then...I
apologize, but it's like a giant black hole of suck. Once I start spiraling
into it, not even light can escape.

But I try...really I do.


~Iñ©üßü§~

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Aug 7, 2003, 3:21:04 PM8/7/03
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:09:22 -0000, John Henry
<john...@lowgenius.com> who was masturbating to a naked picture of
Bea Arthur :

>What is THAT, Krusty (rspwk...@yahoo.com)? Is that a rec.sport.pro-
>wrestling pin, ON YOUR UNIFORM?!


>
>> But he's got nothing but an abortive website
>

>Shit! Thanks for reminding me, I'm going to be getting a bunch of song
>parodies and humor posts back online today.
>
>As for "cashing in on other people's work," I'd hardly call what I do
>"cashing in." A couple of people have stepped in to help out because
>they like the site and are good folks. So my server bill is covered for
>a few months. I certainly appreciate it, but I'd hardly call it "cashing
>in."
>
>I'm also curious as to what "other people's work" you're talking about.
>Other than a handful of FAQ entries written by Chad, ViNNY and Fro -
>entries that will be re-written in the case of ViNNY and Fro, since it
>doesn't make much sense for me to use their work if they aren't
>interested in the project - everything on that site is of my creation,
>and none of it is generating any income. There's no "pay" section of the
>site. There's no membership or dues. There's no popup advertisements or
>banner ads. So where am I "cashing in" here, vermin? What "other
>people's work" am I pimping for money? I don't see it. Just one more
>illustration of how frightened you are to think that maybe someday you'll
>find out that you didn't have to be a low-life fraud to get a few bucks
>out of life.
>
>You're scared to death that you've sold your soul for a bill of goods.
>I'd say you've got good reason to be.
>
>Incidentally, I want you to know that while the original idea for
>publishing a book was just talk, I've been giving it a great deal of
>thought over the last couple of days. Of course, if everyone had stayed
>on board, then they, too, would be "cashing in" on their own work, but I
>have no problem at all in writing replacement entries for their
>information. Perhaps someone else is willing to do some writing, too -
>and if they are, and if this goes forward as a 3-space for-profit
>project, they will share in the proceeds commensurate with their
>contribution.
>
>So you have fun trying desperately to cast me as some money-grubbing
>thief just looking to scam a few marks out of their bucks by hocking the
>work of other people. Anyone with half a brain knows better, and I
>certainly have no argument with you continuing to make an even bigger ass
>out of yourself.

*Yawn* another "Update".

Here's a clue: There are 5 people who give a fuck about your web site.
Instead of posting these irrelevant updates to RSPW try and discover
this "Thing" called email. Then again, you believe everyone is
anticipating what the latest update will be, NOT !

Jo-Jo No One Cares

Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 3:22:21 PM8/7/03
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"John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote

> Shit! Thanks for reminding me, I'm going to be getting a bunch of song
> parodies and humor posts back online today.

That should drive the hitcount up to like...um...five or so. Although, I
imagine the hits will be far less now that Chad isn't around to click on
that abortion you call a website.

I didn't buy that "Top Ten Things NOT to Do When Designing a Website" on
redpaper, because I figured it was just ten lines of :
1. Don't ever do what I do
2. Don't ever do what I do
3. Don't ever do what I do...

Shit, asswipe, what you know about "design" could fill a thimble with room
left over to fit a thumb.

> As for "cashing in on other people's work," I'd hardly call what I do
> "cashing in." A couple of people have stepped in to help out because
> they like the site and are good folks. So my server bill is covered for
> a few months. I certainly appreciate it, but I'd hardly call it "cashing
> in."

Exactly fuckbrain, they helped because they wanted to do something for the
newsgroup. They all got the willies when you started talking about selling
something that isn't yours.

> I'm also curious as to what "other people's work" you're talking about.
> Other than a handful of FAQ entries written by Chad, ViNNY and Fro -
> entries that will be re-written in the case of ViNNY and Fro, since it
> doesn't make much sense for me to use their work if they aren't
> interested in the project - everything on that site is of my creation,
> and none of it is generating any income.

Not the shit you stole from previous FAQs, idiot. And chad didn't *write*
anything, he simnply stole content from Skeith, and pasted it right into
your FAQ.

The point of an FAQ genius, isn't to make money on the collective knowledge
of a usenet group.

Not to mention that your FAQ is about as collective a work as a Stephen King
Novel.

A REAL faq would be a work done BY the group FOR the group, which is why a
shitload of people lobbied for it to be posted to the newsgroup like it
should be. Not "created" by the collective idiots you happen to assemble who
write stupid shit about how the rspw convention was a watershed even in
wrestling history, and equally ridiculous statements.

Earth to John, the reason people left your stupid little FAQ was because it
was sounding less like an FAQ and more like John Henry's Soapbox on Why RSPW
is the most important place on earth. Filled with puffy chested tripe that
puts yourself over and furthers every urban legend ever put forth in here.
It was less an FAQ than it was your personal delusional history of why rspw
is so important to the wrestling business. Your agenda couldn't be less
transparent if you posted it in windex you fucking imbicile.

> There's no "pay" section of the
> site.

Yet. How long was it until you were planning to add it? Or were the proceeds
from you "book" going to support the website? Oh, because we all know
"Altruistic Henry" would never dream of lining his own pockets with his
creation...oh wait...I forgot, that's EXACTLY what you were planning to do.

> There's no membership or dues. There's no popup advertisements or
> banner ads. So where am I "cashing in" here, vermin? What "other
> people's work" am I pimping for money? I don't see it. Just one more
> illustration of how frightened you are to think that maybe someday you'll
> find out that you didn't have to be a low-life fraud to get a few bucks
> out of life.

The rspw faq is a collective work of the newsgroup. It doesn't belong to you
or anyone else. It's a *collective*, open work for the newsgroup. Not your
own personal gain.

I'm sorry your pea-sized brain can't grasp the concept of something not
belonging to you, Mr. Copyright-I-Own-Everything-I-Touch Douchebag.

> You're scared to death that you've sold your soul for a bill of goods.
> I'd say you've got good reason to be.

What the fuck does this even mean?

> Incidentally, I want you to know that while the original idea for
> publishing a book was just talk, I've been giving it a great deal of
> thought over the last couple of days.

iow, since it got found out, I'll change my story.

> Of course, if everyone had stayed
> on board, then they, too, would be "cashing in" on their own work, but I
> have no problem at all in writing replacement entries for their
> information. Perhaps someone else is willing to do some writing, too -
> and if they are, and if this goes forward as a 3-space for-profit
> project, they will share in the proceeds commensurate with their
> contribution.

Douchebag, they left BECAUSE you wanted to cash in. And you still don't get
it.

> So you have fun trying desperately to cast me as some money-grubbing
> thief just looking to scam a few marks out of their bucks by hocking the
> work of other people. Anyone with half a brain knows better, and I
> certainly have no argument with you continuing to make an even bigger ass
> out of yourself.

You're a money grubbing theif. I don't have to do shit to cast you as
anything. You're doing it to yourself idiot.

You're a fucking laughing stock.


Oooh your so cool Brewster

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Aug 7, 2003, 3:25:11 PM8/7/03
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>Subject: Re: Wait, lemme get this straight...so *I'M* jealous? Well, let's
>check this out:
>From: John Henry john...@lowgenius.com
>Date: 8/7/2003 2:18 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <Xns93D090B71B38Djo...@216.168.3.44>

>
>What is THAT, Krusty (rspwk...@yahoo.com)? Is that a rec.sport.pro-
>wrestling pin, ON YOUR UNIFORM?!
>
>Yes, I'm so irrelevant that you respond to everything I say or do.

Um, didn't you just respond to this and every other post he addressed to you on
this thread, tit-for-tat? Just saying, is all.

~Iñ©üßü§~

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Aug 7, 2003, 3:27:50 PM8/7/03
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>"John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote

>> Incidentally, I want you to know that while the original idea for
>> publishing a book was just talk, I've been giving it a great deal of
>> thought over the last couple of days.

Imagine the film based on the book, "John "The Kook" Henry".

Think Jim Carey could pull off playing Dejong ?

Oooh your so cool Brewster

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Aug 7, 2003, 3:29:52 PM8/7/03
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>As for "cashing in on other people's work," I'd hardly call what I do
>"cashing in."

Sure. Other people footing the bill for your site which, while presumably
done for RSPW's benefit, is run and owned by you and you're allowed to do
anything you want with.

>So my server bill is covered for
>a few months.

The amount which you've never disclosed. Not that enough people have
contributed for it to make a difference, but for all anyone knows, you could be
receiving twice as much as your server bill costs.

Oooh your so cool Brewster

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Aug 7, 2003, 3:33:12 PM8/7/03
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>Subject: Re: Wait, lemme get this straight...so *I'M* jealous? Well, let's
>check this out:
>From: Inc...@wwei.com (~Iñ©üßü§~)
>Date: 8/7/2003 3:21 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <3f32a4ef...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>

:)

The_Bede

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Aug 7, 2003, 3:35:45 PM8/7/03
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"Krusty" <rspwk...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Johnny Carwash" <glav...@hotmail.xom> wrote
> > You're part of the problem, not the solution. You're almost as bad.
>
> And your dumbass participation in this thread is what...altruism?
>
Yes it was.

> Dipshit.
>
I know you are, but what is he?
"Altruist".


Oooh your so cool Brewster

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Aug 7, 2003, 3:36:18 PM8/7/03
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>Subject: Re: Wait, lemme get this straight...so *I'M* jealous? Well, let's
>check this out:
>From: "Krusty" rspwk...@yahoo.com
>Date: 8/7/2003 3:22 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <bgu92j$1c9e$1...@news3.infoave.net>

POTY

The_Bede

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Aug 7, 2003, 3:44:13 PM8/7/03
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On the Chad Bryant Memorial Newsgroup, CrossfaceWalls wrote in message
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IAWTP.

> >Guess which choice I'm betting on? :)
>
> Even money says you're correct.
>

Cue Krusty's semi-annual "we are all geeks and losers and I'm just a
participating cog" rant.
Which is true--except that most of us can participate, and use RSPW as
our free therapist (including the occassional flame), without feeling the
need to net.stalk, beat dead horses, go r/t, and tear the same people down
year after year.

the Bede
/:-)>
morally superior


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Aeropo864

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Aug 7, 2003, 4:46:31 PM8/7/03
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Who (n. Jim) kisses Krusty's ass?

I for one do not and I'm the only RSPW'er whose opinion matters.


Oooh your so cool Brewster

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Aug 7, 2003, 7:26:38 PM8/7/03
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>
>Just because nobody invited you doesn't mean it wasn't a very important
>weekend, both for RSPW and for the business.

So important that you (and those that respond to you) are basically the only
people that have ever mentioned it over the last couple years.

Even funnier was a couple posts I found from the last year asking about "If
there ever is an RSPW Convention." Yeah, real important and memorable.

Oooh your so cool Brewster

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>Subject: Re: Wait, lemme get this straight...so *I'M* jealous? Well, let's
>check this out:
>From: JT's Keeper Justa...@mad.scientist.com
>Date: 8/7/2003 6:39 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <bgukc8$g1t$1...@slb4.atl.mindspring.net>
>
>In article <bgu92j$1c9e$1...@news3.infoave.net>,

> "Krusty" <rspwk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > As for "cashing in on other people's work," I'd hardly call what I do
>> > "cashing in." A couple of people have stepped in to help out because
>> > they like the site and are good folks. So my server bill is covered for
>> > a few months. I certainly appreciate it, but I'd hardly call it "cashing
>> > in."
>>
>> Exactly fuckbrain, they helped because they wanted to do something for the
>> newsgroup. They all got the willies when you started talking about selling
>> something that isn't yours.
>
>Wrong answer... I've sent John money to help out because *I* can. I'm
>going to send more. Hope this isn't going to change the color of the sky
>in your little fantasy world.
>

Are you serious? You send charity money to other RSPW'ers??? No offense
dude, but that's kinda creepy.

Krusty

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Aug 7, 2003, 8:43:58 PM8/7/03
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"John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote
> So which is it? Is this something I did on my own, or is it "the
> collective knowledge of a usenet group?" You can't even keep your story
> straight long enough to write a single post.

I mark for your lack of reading comprehension.

An FAQ *should* be a collective work, yours isn't. Happy to Help.


Allan J. Benson

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Aug 8, 2003, 10:23:06 AM8/8/03
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I don't think it necessarily has to be a collective work,
but I think that a FAQ's "owner" should be the newsgroup.
I've always felt the maintainer was just that, a volunteer
who was there for maintenance.

But really, if you both want to make a FAQ, who gives a
damn? Make your FAQs and let the people decide which
one they like better. Personally, I don't really see
why RSPW _needs_ a FAQ at this point. All we really
need is something like FunkyM's FUQ (update that,
you clown) explaining all the in-jokes and kooks
that make up this little online community.

--
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other countries."
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The Saxist

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Aug 8, 2003, 2:37:14 PM8/8/03
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>Aside from "Favorite Phil Collins Song" and "is Nirvana Overrated"
>what frequently asked questions are there?
>


Who?


--The Saxist

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"When someone asks you...if you're a God...you say 'YES!!!!!'"

GreenMan

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Aug 8, 2003, 3:00:51 PM8/8/03
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> Who?

He didn't say anything about Jim.
------
GreenMan
If I was cool I would have something of value in this area here. Either a
funny quote or some witty line.

Johnny Carwash

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Aug 8, 2003, 4:26:45 PM8/8/03
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John Henry <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote:

>What is THAT, Allan J. Benson (cc...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA)? Is that a
>rec.sport.pro-wrestling pin, ON YOUR UNIFORM?!

>
>> "Krusty" (kru...@sc.rr.com) writes:
>>> "John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote
>>>> So which is it? Is this something I did on my own, or is it "the
>>>> collective knowledge of a usenet group?" You can't even keep your
>>>> story straight long enough to write a single post.
>>>
>>> I mark for your lack of reading comprehension.
>>>
>>> An FAQ *should* be a collective work, yours isn't. Happy to Help.
>>
>> I don't think it necessarily has to be a collective work,
>> but I think that a FAQ's "owner" should be the newsgroup.
>> I've always felt the maintainer was just that, a volunteer
>> who was there for maintenance.
>>
>> But really, if you both want to make a FAQ,
>

>I don't.
>
>> who gives a
>> damn?
>
>Not me.


>
>> Make your FAQs and let the people decide which
>> one they like better.
>

>Who cares? I have never had any interest in this being a competition -
>which is why I find it so mindboggling that it *is* a competition..at
>least for one of us. Frankly, the only reasons I don't just let RSPW.Net
>go black right now is I've got too much time invested in it, I'm not
>interested in making the donations of JT and others into a useless "give
>JH money" situation, and - perhaps most importantly - me closing up shop
>is exactly the goal at which Mr. Small has been aiming. That's his whole
>point in creating this kerfluffle-out-of-nowhere - to anger me into
>walking away from a project that he's been talking about for years and
>could never actually get moving, before it is successfully completed.
>That will make him feel like less of a blowhard for not having finished
>it himself.
>
>As to an FAQ, my main point in doing one was documenting the
>interactivity between the group and the business, because there has
>always been a great deal of question as to what degree that interactivity
>existed. My interest in this was piqued by watching the '95 Con and
>seeing how things had developed at that important time. More than an
>FAQ, I just wanted to create a document which explained why RSPW was
>worth the effort in the first place, and what makes it different than
>many other newsgroups in terms of how it has played into the development
>of the object of it's topic.
>
>I could give a rat's ass less if Krusty wants to do an FAQ. I wish him
>luck. Indeed, when Fro asked me about helping him with it weeks ago, I
>said I had no problem whatsoever with it. If Fro would rather work with
>a guy that calls him a "rat" and an "idiot," that's his business, but I
>certainly never made it an either-or situation. I'm not that petty.
>
>I don't like Krusty - I think he's a stupid prick with a napoleon
>complex, and easily the shallowest, most materialistic, insecure, and
>"manipulative" - by which I mean he tries hard - person I've ever known,
>online or off. Considering that I've spent most of my life in the
>entertainment business, that's definitely saying something, but I
>digress. The fact that I don't like the guy has nothing to do with the
>"FAQ." I wish him all the luck in the world with it.
>
>The ONLY thing that bothers me is why someone felt the need to betray my
>trust over this - handing out URLs and private e-mails. Granted, it
>wasn't necessarily a surprise, but it bugs me a little, only because I
>hate having my natural distrust and disrespect for "people in general"
>reinforced. That said, *shrug*. So someone has lived down to my
>expectations again and proven themselves a jerk. That's their problem,
>not mine.
>
>> - Personally, I don't really see


>> why RSPW _needs_ a FAQ at this point.
>

>*In my opinion*, only to set the record straight as to what degree of
>influence RSPW has had on the business, and really the only reason that
>is necessary is because a few ignorant assholes have been denying it's
>influence for so long and with such vehemence that some people have
>started believing them. That's why I went through and documented all the
>shit in Google. As far as I'm concerned - as I've said before - the
>"RSPW FAQ" begins and ends with the information about the group and the
>glossary, along with perhaps the sections on "impertinent questions" and
>meeting wrestlers.


>
>> All we really
>> need is something like FunkyM's FUQ (update that,
>> you clown) explaining all the in-jokes and kooks
>> that make up this little online community.
>

>Meh. If I want to point and laugh at idiots, I go to AUK - the idiots
>here haven't been laughable in years, for the most part. I see nothing
>funny about a fat loser with a compulsive need to turn everything I do
>into another round of "10 Reasons Why I'm Better Than John Henry."
>Indeed, I find it rather disturbing that some folks seem to measure their
>entire lives against what I am or am not doing at any given time.
>
>Part of the whole purpose of RSPW.Net is to get away from that kind of
>crap. That's why there's no section of .Net about who's "cool" and who's
>"not," or "how to load your killfile," or anything else. That's why
>there is no list of "personalities" in "my" version of the FAQ. RSPW.Net
>is about those few of us who still care to maintain RSPW as a true
>community that is fun and entertaining, rather than bitter and
>acrimonious. It's a shame that some people just don't have the sac to
>manage that. For those of us who can, there is/will be RSPW.Net. For
>those of us who are so worried that some obnoxious asshole might ridicule
>us for expressing basic courtesy and human kindness rather than turning
>every little thing into an "I'm better than you" game, there is...well,
>everything else.
>
>I *hope* that this makes my position clear. I didn't want this
>conversation in the first place, I've been supremely disintereted in it
>from the first post - more so, I guarantee, than anyone else around here
>- and I really, really, REALLY don't care to discuss it any further.
>This whole thing is a one-sided dickwaving contest - I think Krusty's a
>stupid dick, but this "competition" over the faq is a figment of his
>imagination. I just started doing the FAQ because previous attempts had
>been abortive, and a couple of people encouraged me to, and I like doing
>this kind of work.
>
>You all have my apologies for this becoming such a clusterfuck, but I'm
>not competing with anyone. I just don't have that need.


Just make sure you document this childish soap opera in the new FAQ,
because it's taking on legendary proportions.

VTY,

Johnny Carwash

johnnyca...@aol.com


"I really don't know clouds at all"

"You cannot make a man become a toilet. It takes a pussy and ass like
Jewel's to charm the man into a piss-drinking stupor." -- Brandon Iron

HitMan333

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Aug 8, 2003, 5:15:31 PM8/8/03
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Krusty <rspwk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> so pissed over Chad selling him out by sending that email to Pete). I'm

I haven't read the group in like a week, someone fill me in...

Allan J. Benson

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Aug 8, 2003, 7:07:37 PM8/8/03
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John Henry (john...@lowgenius.com) writes:
> What is THAT, Allan J. Benson (cc...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA)? Is that a
> rec.sport.pro-wrestling pin, ON YOUR UNIFORM?!
>
>> "Krusty" (kru...@sc.rr.com) writes:
>>> "John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote
>>>> So which is it? Is this something I did on my own, or is it "the
>>>> collective knowledge of a usenet group?" You can't even keep your
>>>> story straight long enough to write a single post.
>>>
>>> I mark for your lack of reading comprehension.
>>>
>>> An FAQ *should* be a collective work, yours isn't. Happy to Help.
>>
>> I don't think it necessarily has to be a collective work,
>> but I think that a FAQ's "owner" should be the newsgroup.
>> I've always felt the maintainer was just that, a volunteer
>> who was there for maintenance.
>>
>> But really, if you both want to make a FAQ,
>
> I don't.

Easy enough then.

>> - Personally, I don't really see


>> why RSPW _needs_ a FAQ at this point.
>

> *In my opinion*, only to set the record straight as to what degree of
> influence RSPW has had on the business, and really the only reason that
> is necessary is because a few ignorant assholes have been denying it's
> influence for so long and with such vehemence that some people have
> started believing them. That's why I went through and documented all the
> shit in Google. As far as I'm concerned - as I've said before - the
> "RSPW FAQ" begins and ends with the information about the group and the
> glossary, along with perhaps the sections on "impertinent questions" and
> meeting wrestlers.

I think a lot of RSPW's influence is still rather
speculative. Sure, we had the RSPW Con at an ECW
show and sure some wrestlers posted here once.
I'll even concede that some low level WWE front
office lackey probably reads the group from time
to time. But really, there's no evidence which
I've seen that tells me RSPW has had anything
beyond a (what I would consider) miniscule influence
for as long as I've been reading it. Perhaps it is
wishful thinking to believe the place that we post
every day can alter the outcome to major angles
and affect Vince McMahon's train of thought. It
would be easy to think Finkle saw someone call the
Rock's finisher a "People's Elbow" and passed the
idea on to McMahon or the Rock, but nothing like
that has happened to any of our knowledge.
You're entitled to your opinion, of course,
but IMHO, your belief that RSPW has had
an impact on wrestling beyond the surface
appearence is debate material for RSPW,
not FAQ material.

>> All we really
>> need is something like FunkyM's FUQ (update that,
>> you clown) explaining all the in-jokes and kooks
>> that make up this little online community.
>

> Meh. If I want to point and laugh at idiots, I go to AUK - the idiots
> here haven't been laughable in years, for the most part. I see nothing
> funny about a fat loser with a compulsive need to turn everything I do
> into another round of "10 Reasons Why I'm Better Than John Henry."
> Indeed, I find it rather disturbing that some folks seem to measure their
> entire lives against what I am or am not doing at any given time.

I think guys like Krusty and Panaro keep doing things
like they do because they know what kind of reaction
they can get out of you and they get a kick out of it.
I might not a PhD in psychology, but I've been online
long enough to understand the minds of the people who
post here (I dare say, better than almost anyone).

Assassin

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Aug 8, 2003, 8:47:15 PM8/8/03
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On 07 Aug 2003 15:59:14 GMT, petep...@aol.comgoaway (Oooh your so
cool Brewster) with the help of a thousand monkeys banging on
keyboards, was finally able to type out the following:

>>Subject: Wait, lemme get this straight...so *I'M* jealous? Well, let's check
>>this out:
>>From: "Krusty" rspwk...@yahoo.com
>>Date: 8/7/2003 11:00 AM Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: <bgtpn3$12mj$1...@news3.infoave.net>
>>
>>I log onto AIM and suddenly I'm innundated with IMs telling me how Whackjob
>>Henry is at it again ranting and raving like a fucking imbicile lunatic, and
>>someone pastes this from an IRC conversation last night, or night before:
>>
>>"I dunno. I guess I just don't get it, and probably never will. I go
>>through trying to be decent to people and tolerant, and all I get is crap.
>>A guy like Krusty comes in here, gloats about how wonderfully rich he is,
>>like that's a measure of his character, and people kiss his ass like it's
>>made of communion wafer. When did we as a society get so fucking shallow
>>that integrity means nothing?"
>>
>>then...
>>
>>"like this whole Krusty FAQ thing...WTF? It's nothing but an ego trip to
>>him"
>>
>>You're frightening, Mr. Genius. I swear to God, you need therapy, NOW.
>>
>>Stop obsessing over me, please? Do something...ANYTHING...plonk me, ignore
>>me, whatever you need to do, just quit already, you're embarassing yourself.
>>
>
>He seems fixated on your money/wealth/belongings.
>
>
That's "alleged money/wealth/belongings".


Tehawk ©2003
The Cerebral Assassin
ICQ #4610826

http://www.tehawk.com
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The Inverse Law of FlameWars
The More A Person Brags About How Good They Are At Flaming (or Trolling too), The More They Suck At It.

Assassin

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Aug 8, 2003, 8:48:55 PM8/8/03
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:21:04 GMT, Inc...@wwei.com (~Iñ©üßü§~) with

the help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able
to type out the following:

>On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:09:22 -0000, John Henry

Which is more than the number of people who believe you're actually a
wrestling insider.

Assassin

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Aug 8, 2003, 8:52:55 PM8/8/03
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 15:22:21 -0400, "Krusty" <rspwk...@yahoo.com>

with the help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally
able to type out the following:

>"John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote


>> Shit! Thanks for reminding me, I'm going to be getting a bunch of song
>> parodies and humor posts back online today.
>
>That should drive the hitcount up to like...um...five or so. Although, I
>imagine the hits will be far less now that Chad isn't around to click on
>that abortion you call a website.
>
>I didn't buy that "Top Ten Things NOT to Do When Designing a Website" on
>redpaper, because I figured it was just ten lines of :
>1. Don't ever do what I do
>2. Don't ever do what I do
>3. Don't ever do what I do...
>
>Shit, asswipe, what you know about "design" could fill a thimble with room
>left over to fit a thumb.
>
>> As for "cashing in on other people's work," I'd hardly call what I do
>> "cashing in." A couple of people have stepped in to help out because
>> they like the site and are good folks. So my server bill is covered for
>> a few months. I certainly appreciate it, but I'd hardly call it "cashing
>> in."
>
>Exactly fuckbrain, they helped because they wanted to do something for the
>newsgroup. They all got the willies when you started talking about selling
>something that isn't yours.
>

And you know this because they told you?
Or are you just making all of this up?

Stefan

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Aug 8, 2003, 9:01:43 PM8/8/03
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"Allan J. Benson" <cc...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
news:bh1afp$1ju$1...@freenet9.carleton.ca...

> John Henry (john...@lowgenius.com) writes:
> > What is THAT, Allan J. Benson (cc...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA)? Is that a
> > rec.sport.pro-wrestling pin, ON YOUR UNIFORM?!
> >
> I think guys like Krusty and Panaro keep doing things
> like they do because they know what kind of reaction
> they can get out of you and they get a kick out of it.
> I might not a PhD in psychology, but I've been online
> long enough to understand the minds of the people who
> post here (I dare say, better than almost anyone).
>


Uh...I think it should be pretty obvious with anybody of at least normal
intellect.

And agreed re: RSPW influence on the rasslin.


Stefan


Krusty

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Aug 8, 2003, 10:16:01 PM8/8/03
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"John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote
[snip more backpedaling]

1. you wanted to sell it
2. it's not yours to sell.

hth


Krusty

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Aug 8, 2003, 10:18:29 PM8/8/03
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"Assassin" <assa...@tehawk.com> wrote

> And you know this because they told you?
> Or are you just making all of this up?

They fucking told me, assbreath. Sorry you weren't in the loop.


Assassin

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Aug 8, 2003, 10:44:26 PM8/8/03
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 02:18:29 GMT, "Krusty" <kru...@sc.rr.com> with the

help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able to
type out the following:

>"Assassin" <assa...@tehawk.com> wrote

And I should believe you because you claim it?
Wigger please.
Here's a clue fatass, until they actually say this themselves, I'll
call you a liar.
The biggest lie I've seen told in usenet is when someone makes the
claim, "they told me via e-mail or in IM", in regards to people who
have never had any problems expressing their point of view about
anyone else right here in the open.

Oooh your so cool Brewster

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Aug 9, 2003, 1:42:57 PM8/9/03
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>let's check this out:
>From: Johnny Carwash glav...@hotmail.xom
>Date: 8/8/2003 4:26 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <pq18jv0vnqum7dhjm...@4ax.com>

Seriously, dude, this stuff makes for tons more fun reading than a FAQ that
seems to consist entirely of "Hey, did you hear RSPW is the fulcrum that all of
wrestling balances on?"

Oooh your so cool Brewster

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Aug 9, 2003, 2:00:16 PM8/9/03
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>Subject: Re: Wait, lemme get this straight...so *I'M* jealous? Well, let's
>check this out:
>From: John Henry john...@lowgenius.com
>Date: 8/8/2003 8:46 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <Xns93D1D26D27724jo...@216.168.3.44>

>
>What is THAT, Allan J. Benson (cc...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA)? Is that a
>rec.sport.pro-wrestling pin, ON YOUR UNIFORM?!
>
>> John Henry (john...@lowgenius.com) writes:
>>> What is THAT, Allan J. Benson (cc...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA)? Is that a
>>> rec.sport.pro-wrestling pin, ON YOUR UNIFORM?!
>>>
>>>> "Krusty" (kru...@sc.rr.com) writes:
>>>>> "John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote
>>>>>> So which is it? Is this something I did on my own, or is it "the
>>>>>> collective knowledge of a usenet group?" You can't even keep your
>>>>>> story straight long enough to write a single post.
>>>>>
>>>>> I mark for your lack of reading comprehension.
>>>>>
>>>>> An FAQ *should* be a collective work, yours isn't. Happy to Help.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it necessarily has to be a collective work,
>>>> but I think that a FAQ's "owner" should be the newsgroup.
>>>> I've always felt the maintainer was just that, a volunteer
>>>> who was there for maintenance.
>>>>
>>>> But really, if you both want to make a FAQ,
>>>
>>> I don't.
>>
>> Easy enough then.

>>
>>>> - Personally, I don't really see
>>>> why RSPW _needs_ a FAQ at this point.
>>>
>>> *In my opinion*, only to set the record straight as to what degree of
>>> influence RSPW has had on the business, and really the only reason
>>> that is necessary is because a few ignorant assholes have been
>>> denying it's influence for so long and with such vehemence that some
>>> people have started believing them. That's why I went through and
>>> documented all the shit in Google. As far as I'm concerned - as I've
>>> said before - the "RSPW FAQ" begins and ends with the information
>>> about the group and the glossary, along with perhaps the sections on
>>> "impertinent questions" and meeting wrestlers.
>>
>> I think a lot of RSPW's influence is still rather
>> speculative. Sure, we had the RSPW Con at an ECW
>> show and sure some wrestlers posted here once.
>> I'll even concede that some low level WWE front
>> office lackey probably reads the group from time
>> to time. But really, there's no evidence which
>> I've seen that tells me RSPW has had anything
>> beyond a (what I would consider) miniscule influence
>> for as long as I've been reading it. Perhaps it is
>> wishful thinking to believe the place that we post
>> every day can alter the outcome to major angles
>> and affect Vince McMahon's train of thought. It
>> would be easy to think Finkle saw someone call the
>> Rock's finisher a "People's Elbow" and passed the
>> idea on to McMahon or the Rock, but nothing like
>> that has happened to any of our knowledge.
>> You're entitled to your opinion, of course,
>> but IMHO, your belief that RSPW has had
>> an impact on wrestling beyond the surface
>> appearence is debate material for RSPW,
>> not FAQ material.
>
>Which is precisely why it *is* FAQ material - I have meticulously
>documented several of these very things - Mero asking for gimmick ideas,
>etc. etc. Feel free to read it; th elink on rspw.net works as of a
>couple of hours ago.

>
>>>> All we really
>>>> need is something like FunkyM's FUQ (update that,
>>>> you clown) explaining all the in-jokes and kooks
>>>> that make up this little online community.
>>>
>>> Meh. If I want to point and laugh at idiots, I go to AUK - the
>>> idiots here haven't been laughable in years, for the most part. I
>>> see nothing funny about a fat loser with a compulsive need to turn
>>> everything I do into another round of "10 Reasons Why I'm Better Than
>>> John Henry." Indeed, I find it rather disturbing that some folks
>>> seem to measure their entire lives against what I am or am not doing
>>> at any given time.
>>
>> I think guys like Krusty and Panaro keep doing things
>> like they do because they know what kind of reaction
>> they can get out of you and they get a kick out of it.
>> I might not a PhD in psychology, but I've been online
>> long enough to understand the minds of the people who
>> post here (I dare say, better than almost anyone).
>
>I'm not sure what this "reaction" I am allegedly having is supposed to
>be. One dick betrayed my trust - I'm displeased. Surprise. I think
>Krusty is a dick, who is creating a "competition" over an FAQ which
>simply is not there, and ascribing thoughts and motives to me which
>simply don't exist. I merely set the record straight. Some people will
>be stupid enough to buy in to his bullshit - such people have my pity,
>but I've done what I can to set things right. And yeah, throw a few
>flames along the way - I think the guy's a stupid dick, I have no problem
>with saying so. If some folks choose to interpret that as some sort of
>evidence of my incipient mental and emotional breakdown...well, they're
>stupid marks. Fuck 'em.

The breakdown was when you posted the entire FAQ here and then spent 200 lines
defending yourself with "Its not about the money" and generally martyring
yourself. I feel no shame in saying I am entertsined by your breakdowns. It's
really funny stuff.

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